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Congrats your will to get us to 5-7 again workedEverytime Schaub throws a deep ball, I hear the sound that's made
when you shoot a three pointer on Double-Dribble.
LMAO Nice! And the the "CLANK" if you missed it or the explosion if you made it. Repped.Everytime Schaub throws a deep ball, I hear the sound that's made
when you shoot a three pointer on Double-Dribble.
Nique and his hall of famers around him.:kubepalm:Schaub is what he is. He's an average quarterback at best surrounded by an offense that enables him to just not screw up too badly and he puts up good numbers.
When that breaks down is when it comes time for him to step up and make a play on his own. He is not able to do it.
He might not be the problem with this team per se...but he's certainly not been able to find the answer to the problem either.
The sports world is littered with guys that put up hollow numbers that have little to do with winning and losing.
Look at Dominique Wilkins. Ostensibly he was just as good as Kobe Bryant.
They both have averaged 25 points per game for their careers. Both a little over one steal, half a block, Wilkins has more rebounds, Bryant more assists.
If games were won on paper, then you would be just as well off to have Wilkins as Kobe.
Games are not won on paper. Schaub will win you games on paper...
i thougth there was some zip on his intermediate passes but that throw to aj was a looper alright
Yesterday you said he was the worst qb in the NFL and you'd rather have anyone than him. Now you say he's "average".Schaub is what he is. He's an average quarterback at best surrounded by an offense that enables him to just not screw up too badly and he puts up good numbers.
When that breaks down is when it comes time for him to step up and make a play on his own. He is not able to do it.
He might not be the problem with this team per se...but he's certainly not been able to find the answer to the problem either.
The sports world is littered with guys that put up hollow numbers that have little to do with winning and losing.
Look at Dominique Wilkins. Ostensibly he was just as good as Kobe Bryant.
They both have averaged 25 points per game for their careers. Both a little over one steal, half a block, Wilkins has more rebounds, Bryant more assists.
If games were won on paper, then you would be just as well off to have Wilkins as Kobe.
Games are not won on paper. Schaub will win you games on paper...
I definitely agree that he isn't the biggest issue on the team. Complaining about Matt being the problem of why we're losing is almost like complaining that you have lung cancer because you have lungs (not the best analogy, but oh well).that being said, he is still one of the top 12 QBs in the league and to anyone blaming him for this year, wake up and smell the horrible defense and pathetic coaching. schaub would have 5 clutch come from behind wins this year, if not for pathetic defense and retarded coaching.
I'm just saying with a one man crew and your prime being vs the stacked Pistons, Bulls and Celtics...he had little to no shot.So you're saying that Nique would have won these championships just like Kobe?
that might have had something to do with arian dropping one first play of the game when we looked to have caught the eagles in perfect coverage for a big runHe had a lot of zip on that screen pass that was intercepted in that end of 1st half spectacular.
Seriously - he has an obvious decrease in arm strength over the last few games - something is UP.
True, but Schaub has never had a good deep ball. It's serviceable because it will get there, but generally speaking receivers are almost always having to wait on the ball to get there rather than having to hot foot it downfield in order to get under it.You can't throw a deep ball when the pocket starts collapsing the second you hike the ball.
I'm pretty sure Vick is the only QB in the league that can make game winning palys on his own. All other QBs have to have some support and help (including Brady and Manning). We have the 32 ranked defense and we CAN win with Schaub and we HAVE. We don't need a top 2 or 3 defense but a middle of the pack D would make this team instant division winners and a consistent playoff team.I'm not flopping.
I don't like Schaub as our qb.
Whether he is slightly below average or the worst qb in the league is semantics.
Unless we get a top 2 or 3 defense, there is no way for us to win with him.
He is not good enough to make game winning plays on his own.
Matt Schaub has had under 21 pass attempts exactly 1 time since coming to Houston barring injury mid-game.He hasnt been able to throw a out route in over 2 years. It could be from the squat he has to do from the center because the center is scared of getting blown off the ball so he gets low. Schaub to me is a volume passer like a volume shooter. If you gave schaub 21 throws because the running game is working, he will probably be at 55% with a touch and a pick for 150 yds. If you gave schaub 35 passes, he would look like a elite qb. If i were the texans, i would draft a qb in the 1st or 2nd rd and use free agency to fill in the other spots. They need to start grooming a qb right now.
If the defense weren't so terrible, I might agree with you. Unfortunately, as "not-quite-below-average" as Schaub is - he's serviceable enough to where we should focus 99% of our attention on the defense. The offense is fine, despite Schaub's "meh" factor.He hasnt been able to throw a out route in over 2 years. It could be from the squat he has to do from the center because the center is scared of getting blown off the ball so he gets low. Schaub to me is a volume passer like a volume shooter. If you gave schaub 21 throws because the running game is working, he will probably be at 55% with a touch and a pick for 150 yds. If you gave schaub 35 passes, he would look like a elite qb. If i were the texans, i would draft a qb in the 1st or 2nd rd and use free agency to fill in the other spots. They need to start grooming a qb right now.
This is such an useless argument. So what is your master plan then, get rid of Schaub and then what? Who is better that is going to replace him?I'm not flopping.
I don't like Schaub as our qb.
Whether he is slightly below average or the worst qb in the league is semantics.
Unless we get a top 2 or 3 defense, there is no way for us to win with him.
He is not good enough to make game winning plays on his own.
Doesn't matter.This is such an useless argument. So what is your master plan then, get rid of Schaub and then what? Who is better that is going to replace him?
this is how I feel, but also about Mario.I just want to hurl when people watch the Texans....and come away with complaints about Schaub, of all things.
yup. didn't hear any of this last year when he was the leading passer. where is the venom for AJ, he doesn't have the numbers he had last year either (I think).Dude makes plays to give his team lead with mere minutes left yet people want to get rid of him because the defense sucks
Pretty solid logic there
And Kitna>Schaub....that is pretty funny
For every game he does well, he gives one away like he did last night with the pick and the noodle arm throw to Walter on 3rd down.
He gave away the Jaguars game with that horrible decision to throw to Dreesen on that third down. Absolutely horrid decision with the game on the line. One of the worst brain freezes I have ever seen. Up there with Chris Webber's timeout against NC.
Schaub said in the post-game he was going to go up there and clock the ball lol
That's all I needed to hear from him.
If you want a guy that has that little situational awareness running your team, then by all means...Schaub is your guy.
Vick is not the only guy that can do things on his own. Are you kidding me?
Jon Kitna is a better runner than Schaub. Everyone in the league can do things on their own except Schaub.
And by doing things on their own, I didn't mean scrambling anyways. I meant making plays that are off schedule. Making plays that any UDFA couldn't come in and make.
You know Jamarcus Russel can throw the ball through the goal posts from the 50 yard line on his knees. He's available, what do you say????Schaub for the second game in a row - cannot throw a deep ball - Has no Zip on his passes . . .
This guy is injured - WTH - Shoulder, Ribs - What is the deal.
Every deep ball that was caught was a comeback, underthrow luck job - Any one know what's up ????????
For every game he does well, he gives one away like he did last night with the pick and the noodle arm throw to Walter on 3rd down.
He gave away the Jaguars game with that horrible decision to throw to Dreesen on that third down. Absolutely horrid decision with the game on the line. One of the worst brain freezes I have ever seen. Up there with Chris Webber's timeout against NC.
Schaub said in the post-game he was going to go up there and clock the ball lol
That's all I needed to hear from him.
If you want a guy that has that little situational awareness running your team, then by all means...Schaub is your guy.
Vick is not the only guy that can do things on his own. Are you kidding me?
Jon Kitna is a better runner than Schaub. Everyone in the league can do things on their own except Schaub.
And by doing things on their own, I didn't mean scrambling anyways. I meant making plays that are off schedule. Making plays that any UDFA couldn't come in and make.
hahahaha. that picture is awesome.Are you kidding me? Jon Kitna? Really? You sir have earned the Dumbest post ever award.
You are definitely not the only one. I think the other poster is the only one wanting to get rid of our pro-bowl QB because he can't overcome the lack of a defense we currently have.If our defense was average, schaub would be hottest QB in the league right now. He has had to come from behind all year.
He has made potentially game winning play in like 6 of the last 7 games. It's the defense that is losing these games.
Please tell me that I am not the only 1 who see this
Matt is a damn good QB and is going to be a HUGE factor in any top HCcandidate considering Houston
We need to find a winner for Sir Andre
Well, if we had an average defense he might not be having to make those comebacks, but yeah, I agree.If our defense was average, schaub would be hottest QB in the league right now. He has had to come from behind all year.
He has made potentially game winning play in like 6 of the last 7 games. It's the defense that is losing these games.
Please tell me that I am not the only 1 who see this
Matt is a damn good QB and is going to be a HUGE factor in any top HCcandidate considering Houston
We need to find a winner for Sir Andre
Ur just wrong there man ... how many game winning drives does a man need to make in each game? Should only be one right? well he does that and then Defense invents new ways to loose the game for us. We don't need a top 2 or 3 D to win with him but how bout a top 23 or 24? Or I would take 11 guys that would make even an attempt at getting in the way of SOMEONE's offense as they march down the field to score in critical moments.I'm not flopping.
I don't like Schaub as our qb.
Whether he is slightly below average or the worst qb in the league is semantics.
Unless we get a top 2 or 3 defense, there is no way for us to win with him.
He is not good enough to make game winning plays on his own.
droppin AJ ASAP is a given man I mean so the dude played with bruised lung and is the only guy to have 8 seasons with 60+ catches ... drop his ***** ass while ur at it might as well cash in on that scrub arian foster ....that was sarcasm btw and dre still got over 1000 yrd this season #3 in the NFLyup. didn't hear any of this last year when he was the leading passer. where is the venom for AJ, he doesn't have the numbers he had last year either (I think).
spot on. I pointed this out a couple of years ago and got shouted down. I noticed then that wide open guys would have to wait on the ball and have to settle for long gains on what should have been TD catches.Schaub has a noodle arm. Well maybe not noodle, but it's far from being strong. That said, we've known that for a while. He's never been the guy that would stretch the field with long vertical passes, leading receivers so they could catch it it stride.
His strengths has been his ability to read defenses and keep drives a live by buying time in the pocket.
Last night though, he looked dumb at times. Schaub has been very inconsistent throughout his career here. Even though he put up a lot of yards last year, he was still inconsistent if you take the entire year into account.
I think Schaub is a good enough QB to win with...He's not elite, but if we could field a better defense to take some of the pressure off the offense I think we'd be a lot better.
if the game changes to a race out the back of the end zone sure!!!spot on. I pointed this out a couple of years ago and got shouted down. I noticed then that wide open guys would have to wait on the ball and have to settle for long gains on what should have been TD catches.
That said, I still think his decision making (most of the time) and knowledge/understanding of this offense makes up for his average arm (again, most of the time).
Getting rid of Schaub won't cure a defense that gives up 28 pts/game. That's the issue that needs to be fixed.
saaay... Orlovsky has a strong arm, you want to start him??
Yes. Nevermind that DW played in an era when teams averaged 120 a game instead of 100. Having someone score 25%+ of the points a team needed to win vs 18-20% isn't a difference.Schaub is what he is. He's an average quarterback at best surrounded by an offense that enables him to just not screw up too badly and he puts up good numbers.
When that breaks down is when it comes time for him to step up and make a play on his own. He is not able to do it.
He might not be the problem with this team per se...but he's certainly not been able to find the answer to the problem either.
The sports world is littered with guys that put up hollow numbers that have little to do with winning and losing.
Look at Dominique Wilkins. Ostensibly he was just as good as Kobe Bryant.
They both have averaged 25 points per game for their careers. Both a little over one steal, half a block, Wilkins has more rebounds, Bryant more assists.
If games were won on paper, then you would be just as well off to have Wilkins as Kobe.
Games are not won on paper. Schaub will win you games on paper...