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SAINTS HOLD ON while BUSH HOLDS OUT?
- Thread starter CloakNNNdagger
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cincyTEXAN
Practice Squad
just heard the same thing...... oh so sweet.
Titan "Tack" Fan said:
You are quite bright for a Titan fan... No common sense, but quite bright for them. Lets see.. Lets check the tape on where the eye made landfall... You dont have a clue what your talking about. Try 4 years in OU for the Meteorology program and 6 years Military service as a Meteoroloist.. And you think you know more by going to LSU... ROFL. Do research before you talk. Oh.. and read what I said... Winds did cause damage, but the storm surge did not break the levees.
HOU-TEX said:
Yes... as someone stated earlier, they were built poorly. One gets me is that my major about 7-8 years back was sent to a meeting with FEMA in California. Thier discussion, 3 items. What ifs.. the three that made the top list. #3 Another terror attack on New York (btw, discussed this because of the first WTC attack), #2 Hurricane Cat 4 or greater to NO. It was very freaky remembering the conversations.
TwinSisters
Veteran
PowerfulDragon said:
WHOA! Really? Wait until I tell the President about this. He will fix it. He can fix anything. He's a decider.
Brandon420tx
Flounder
Dime said:
Wasn't one of them a major earthquake to the California area, splitting the fault line cleanly in 2?
CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
At least there are some people outside of New Orleans that appreciate the potential "damage" done to so many by a "personal" decision made by one person..........and not too impressed that that person try to squeeze out that extra 3 or 4 million dollars to an already lucrative situation.
http://www.timesenterprise.com/sports/local_story_206234851.html?keyword=secondarystory
http://www.timesenterprise.com/sports/local_story_206234851.html?keyword=secondarystory
Titan "Tack" Fan
Veteran
Dime said:
LSU has one of the best oceanography departments in the country. FYI.
D-Vizzl
Waterboy
TwinSisters said:
Bush Bowl II
Sunday December 31st in the year of our Lord 2006
Houston, Texas.
at 3:11, Kris Brown shanks another late 4th quarter field goal and the Texans beat out the Cleveland Browns for the 2007 number one over all draft spot.
April 8th, after Easter celebrations the Fanzone is invaded by the 20,000 Catholics that insist Rick Smith is going to select Brady Quinn.
April 9th, the California Student Body Left counters with a 22,000 man rebuttal about how David Carr just needs to adjust to the new system, new lineman, and insist that Reggie Bush must be taken this time around so that he can finally reach his potential.
May 1st, the Texans pass over Bush twice for stand out DT Bob Womerjeik from Cottageville CC, South Carolina. GM Rick Smith press release states that it is obviously a football decision, "The guy is a monster and has good character... I mean he got 3 sacks in one game against Folly Beach U last season. I've never seen anything like it in my one year has GM in the NFL."
June 23rd, the Cleveland Browns gloating over their fortunes in getting the best player in football for the past 50 years, sell out their season tickets for the first time since Jim Brown played.
August 10th, Reggie Bush states that he will hold out until the 2008 draft because the NFL will still not allow him to wear number 5. Reggie's agents make sure that it is known that it breaks Reggie's heart not to be able to play in Cleveland. It's just business and the NFL started it.
April 27th, 2008 New York City: the Los Angeles Trojans select Reggie Bush as the first player to be taken in their newly awarded franchise. Bush being able to wear number 5 was part of the charter agreement. In fact, the number 5 is passed as a registered trademark in California legislature. Any team visiting L.A. with a player using the number 5 must be changed out or be fined 5,000 dollars for each day they are in the State with a number 5 on their roster.
Sep 14th, 2008 The NFL enters a new era of 5 slash 05 for all players that wanted to be number 5 but didn't get to. Reggie Bush single-handedly changes the game of football.
Maybe when L.A takes him he refuses to sign unless he receives "already in the league eight year money".
D-Vizzl
Waterboy
Anguyen said:
Reggie Bush is definitely being a prima donna but at the same time if anyone has draft day coverage watch for when Tom Benson gets interviewed, he opens up his mouth and the words that he may soon regret come out. "Reggie Bush may have been the second pick, but we will negotiate with him as if he were the first" his words. Stand for something or fall for anything!!
infantrycak
Hall of Fame
HOU-TEX said:
In general the ball park is determined by looking at the same draft slot last year and increasing that by approximately the % increase in the salary cap this season.
CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
BroussardSaint said:
Independent of the Saints' unknown offer, we do know that the Bush camp expects Mario's #1 pic money or more......an imperically unreasonable expectation no matter what face anyone tries to put on it.
CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
Commentary from CBS Sportsline: Bush Pushes Luck
This was a fan's response to the above article:
To all of the fans who agree with Bush holding out, lets play a little role reversal. Go to work tomorrow and demand more money from YOUR boss. When he says you're NOT getting it, tell him you're not coming to work until you do. See how quickly your ass is on the unemployment line with your thumb up your ass. Why should it be any different for athletes who make millions? Hey Reggie and all of the other greedy MF'ers out there, what makes you better than any of the other working men in this world?
This was a fan's response to the above article:
To all of the fans who agree with Bush holding out, lets play a little role reversal. Go to work tomorrow and demand more money from YOUR boss. When he says you're NOT getting it, tell him you're not coming to work until you do. See how quickly your ass is on the unemployment line with your thumb up your ass. Why should it be any different for athletes who make millions? Hey Reggie and all of the other greedy MF'ers out there, what makes you better than any of the other working men in this world?
R
real
Guest
Anonymous Saints fan said:
LEVERAGE...The difference between R.B and ...well...the average person...is that Reggie Bush can demand more money, get fired...1) and still be Rich 2) have a new, better job offer from 31 employers....
My Message to Reggie: Get ya paper playa
tulexan
Hall of Fame
I think that he will eventually sign, but it's not going to be anytime soon. If he is convinced that he was the best talent in the draft and should be paid accordingly, he is going to wait until he gets his money. I think he will most likely sign before the season starts, but will probably miss a pre-season game or two.
Mr. White
Retired OLine Coach
I think we all saw what this guy was about in the Rose Bowl when he made his ill-advised lateral to the Texas D.
He thought his superior talent and the hype surrounding it would overcome physics.
He'll never say it out loud, but IMO, he really does think he's "Jesus in cleats." There isn't enough money in New Orleans to sign him.
He thought his superior talent and the hype surrounding it would overcome physics.
He'll never say it out loud, but IMO, he really does think he's "Jesus in cleats." There isn't enough money in New Orleans to sign him.
Mr. White
Retired OLine Coach
BroussardSaint said:
I really don't have any reason for wanting to see him fail. After the fumble in the Rose Bowl, I just didn't want the guy playing for Houston. I thought the fumble showed something negative about his character.
He's mastered the art of public relations, so I don't think he'll ever say anything to the media that'll make him look bad. He'll never say he's "Jesus in cleats", but it would stand to reason that he believes his own hype.
El Tejano
Hall of Fame
The difference between Reggie and us is you can spend 90 mil on Reggie and the return will be 200 Mil +. If I hold out with my employer he can hire someone to do my job for 10,000 less than what I make and the chances of that person doing a better job are alot better than the chances of another RB doing Reggie's job.
He will go back in the draft and go to the new LA team. LA needs someone to fill the seats and in Cali that is exactly what Reggie will do.
He will go back in the draft and go to the new LA team. LA needs someone to fill the seats and in Cali that is exactly what Reggie will do.
CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
D-Vizzl said:
One "small correction"........what was said was "Reggie Bush may have been the second pick, but we will treat him as if her were the first."........big difference, as they HAVE TREATED HIM like THE KING.
link
This is only one of many sources which the media have on several occasions precisely quoted Bush's own mouthpiece, Orenstein. Had Benson included the words "negotiate with him......." those words would no doubt been captilized, underlined and bolded in 10 foot letters.......and Segal et. al would be going for the throat without mercy. But that was NOT said and the Busch camp is trying to encourage this misinterpretation to the man on the street , who they know will likely equate the two phrases.
hollywood_texan
All Pro
I don't see how Reggie sitting out one year will actually make him more money.
He might sign a bigger contract the next year, but he will lose out on $6 to $8million he could have made the first year.
Therefore, if he doesn't play this year, his contract next year has to be the amount he wanted this year, plus inflation, and then he has to make up for the money he lost in the year he didn't play.
There is an opportunity cost factor that must be evaluated.
Reggie will sign right before the season or shortly thereafter. Unless, he really doesn't want to play in New Orleans.
He might sign a bigger contract the next year, but he will lose out on $6 to $8million he could have made the first year.
Therefore, if he doesn't play this year, his contract next year has to be the amount he wanted this year, plus inflation, and then he has to make up for the money he lost in the year he didn't play.
There is an opportunity cost factor that must be evaluated.
Reggie will sign right before the season or shortly thereafter. Unless, he really doesn't want to play in New Orleans.
TwinSisters
Veteran
hollywood_texan said:
Well thinking about it... you could sign this year and play for the Saints and earn less then a few million from local endorsements. OR hold out and get picked up by somebody like the Jets, Raiders, 49ers in a market that you can easily make 10-20 million a year on local endorsements alone.
Going back into the draft would not hurt him. Houston is not going to touch him. Even if his rights get traded, Houston is still not going to trade for him and most likely the New York teams would. Barber is aging. Martin is almost done. Even Boston could use him.
Barber 10 years
Martin 12 years
Dillon 10 years
The smart money is in getting to one of those larger national markets.
He started out with the LA market in his fold.
He cracked the Southern states by being available to the Texans and then drafted by the Saints.
Get picked up by a Northeast team and you have shopped 3/5ths of the Nation.
All he has to do is make it look like the Saints don't want to give him what he deserves. Public opinion is in his favour in this regard... and that's what generates his money in the first place.
A somewhat not-so-secret-secret ( but we will call it that, because it is so often overlooked that it is just as unknown as a secret ), a player and an agent looks at the bottom line. When a player can make up for millions of dollars in a large national market, he doesn't have to demand as much in salary cap space.
Leading the nation in all-purpose yards as a Saint, is not even worth half of what you get for doing the same thing in a Giants' uniform.
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I do think he will sign in New Orleans though. Just pointing out how much money he loses by signing with them. If he says no... then there will be other teams that want him. His rep will be polished by the press of the team that could get him.
I saw NFL Network say something about it would hurt him like Ki-jana Carter... no @#*&$@ way. Reggie's hype is like two cubed the power of Ki-Jana Carter's.
TwinSisters
Veteran
BroussardSaint said:
I will help you out a little BroussardSaint
if the source is not named and it uses lines like an NFC Manager said this and that. Well what does that say?
Cheap crap and Prisco is a fraud.
O-KAY little camper. Time for bed now * pat pat *
Kelly Stoufer is not even &%$&#^$ close to Bush. Schefter at least used Ki-Jana Carter for comparison. Jeez. That's pretty bad when your basic journalism skills cannot even measure up to Adam Schefter.
CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
The press is squeezing the situation for all its worth.:
Bush could make Texans fans live the torture again
Bush could make Texans fans live the torture again
TwinSisters
Veteran
It's not that hard to figure out.
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The thing about all the Bo Jackson, John Elway, and Dave Winfield comparisons being tossed around is that all of them could play multiple sports. I am not sure Reggie could play basketball or baseball.
cuppacoffee
Resident Grouch
Quote:
"With the first pick in the 2007 National Football League Draft, the Houston Texans select Brady Quinn, quarterback from Notre Dame."
I have defended Carr against the bashers, but damn, this would be hard to pass on.
My biggest fear?....the evil empire to the north will find a way to get another domer on their team. I fear the Weis/Parcells connection will doom many of my Irish to the dark side...
On the bright side...The Tacks will probably have the first pick in the draft next year and will be forced to pass/trade the rights to Quinn.
"With the first pick in the 2007 National Football League Draft, the Houston Texans select Brady Quinn, quarterback from Notre Dame."
I have defended Carr against the bashers, but damn, this would be hard to pass on.
My biggest fear?....the evil empire to the north will find a way to get another domer on their team. I fear the Weis/Parcells connection will doom many of my Irish to the dark side...
On the bright side...The Tacks will probably have the first pick in the draft next year and will be forced to pass/trade the rights to Quinn.
TwinSisters
Veteran
cuppacoffee said:I have defended Carr against the bashers, but damn, this would be hard to pass on.
On the bright side...The Tacks will probably have the first pick in the draft next year and will be forced to pass/trade the rights to Quinn.
Yeah... Ugh-uh * slowly nodding head *
The Irish are primed to take the National Title and right now he has Heisman written all over him ( title or no title ).
TwinSisters
Veteran
Hutch13 said:Hes probably a better batter than adam everett. The astros should sign him if he sits out a year
Yeah or somebody signs him up to just sell tickets like Jordan.
* cymbal *
badump.
cuppacoffee
Resident Grouch
nunusguy said:
There is no doubt that Carr will have to step it up this season. I have given him the benefit of the doubt up to this point due to the 'apparent' lack of decent coaching.
You have hit the nail on the head here.
I feel that many of us Texans fans will change our opinion of Carr, one way or another, this year.
tulexan
Hall of Fame
El Tejano said:
If he sits out a year, nobody is going to pay him 1st pick money because he won't be the first pick. He most likely won't even be the best running back in the draft if Adrian Peterson declares.
There is a little thing called the time value of money which means that a dollar today is worth more than a dollar next year.
Brandon420tx
Flounder
I don't know if this has been posted before but
http://www.nfl.com/teams/story/NO/9574800
JACKSON, Miss. (July 27, 2006) -- Reggie Bush missed a reporting deadline for the New Orleans Saints ' training camp Thursday evening.
http://www.nfl.com/teams/story/NO/9574800
JACKSON, Miss. (July 27, 2006) -- Reggie Bush missed a reporting deadline for the New Orleans Saints ' training camp Thursday evening.
tulexan said:
Reggie Bust isn't even the best RB on the team that drafted him. I will take Deuce McCallister over Bush. McCallister is an every down back and not some gimmick player.
Texans_Chick
Utopian Dreamer
Brandon420tx said:
Interesting article:
No pictures?????? In training camp??????
I would die if the Texans did that.
YoungTexanFan
All Pro
tulexan said:
Peterson, Lynch, MICHAEL Bush, Ball from Maryland
They could all go ahead of him, and this is before we have surprise players like we do every year. No way he goes top 5 if he sits out a year.
Kaiser Toro said:
Oh come on. Do you really think R Bush on the sideline had anything
to do with character?
It proved what I always thought, P. Carroll is an overrated coach.
Where you the only one in the stadium, who didn't know White would
get the ball, when Bush was on the sideline?
P. Carroll not giving the ball to Bush or letting Leihart throw on the most important play of the season was just plain stupid. That was the same as Young handing off on the 1st 4th down play UT had in the game. Results, no 1st down for either team. But, I was happy Carroll had his head up his rear.
Sorry, but that has nothing to do with character.
And lets face it, UT's defense didn't stop R. Bush, P. Carroll did.
I agree the Heisman is a popularity contest, but a persons reaction to
the results say everything about your character.
tulexan
Hall of Fame
zwz404 said:
I have to agree. The whole "Reggie on the sidelines" thing was overblown and showed that Carroll was an arrogant overrated coach. Carroll was completely outcoached in that game and Reggie being on the sidelines was a great example of it. I've read numerous quotes from Longhorn players saying that they were glad that Reggie was on the sidelines because they knew exactly what was going to be called.
tulexan said:
So sorry......... USC faced 4th and short twice in the Championship game. REggie was on the sideline both times....... they picked it up the first time, didn't the second........
Pete Carroll overated?? with out him, USC would not have been looking for a threePeat.