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Sage to the Vikings
- Thread starter GlassHalfFull
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HOU-TEX
Ah, Football!
Out of curiosity, who was it that said it? Station?
I would think the NFL would be more likely to strip us of a draft pick if we had multiple picks stored up
Errant Hothy
Hypermediocrity
Indeed?
I was using this as a source:
http://www.inthebullseye.com/
Keith is usually on top of stuff like this.
Bizarre, because I'm going by his numbers on that site too!
Check the cap # for Weaver this season ($6.2 million) and his bonuses for this season and next, and you can see my numbers.
Maybe Im missing something
imatexan
All Pro
If we give Sage up for a low 4th rounder, that would be a terrible move!
Yes the guy loses games by trying to do to much but he also can win games that same way and i dont see us getting any where close to a better backup.
However, if we can get a 2nd/3rd rounder for him and some 2010 pick I would take it.
Yes the guy loses games by trying to do to much but he also can win games that same way and i dont see us getting any where close to a better backup.
However, if we can get a 2nd/3rd rounder for him and some 2010 pick I would take it.
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Polo
Guest
Even if you're wrong, the Texans may be willing to eat a little cap space to keep a useful player around instead of a stiff...
I would hate to see a a Tim Bulman or Naeding not make the roster because of Weaver.
Carr Bombed
Hall of Fame
Tim Bulman moved out to DE can give us more than what Weaver has since he's been here.
A UDFA can give us what Weaver does, I've wanted him gone for awhile.
MightyTExan
It's go time!
Maybe Brian Griese to be our new backup?
bah007
Hall of Fame
If they plan on going QB anywhere in this draft then one of those guys will be cut.
My guess would be O'Sullivan.
bah007
Hall of Fame
If we trade Sage for a draft pick then that says to me that Kubes thinks he hit with Brink and he is confident that he can be the backup OR we are gonna sign a veteran to backup Schaub.
Drafting a rookie to play backup wouldn't make much sense. Brink would probably have a better chance since he has been in the system.
Drafting a rookie to play backup wouldn't make much sense. Brink would probably have a better chance since he has been in the system.
Unless we sign a FA QB, this is simply addition by subtraction.
Sage may have issues protecting the ball, but so would a rookie that's slated to be a career NFL back up.
If we can get a third, maybe, but not for a 4th unless we sign a FA, which if theres one out there why wouldn't the Bikes just do that, rather than give up a pick.
In closing, if we get a 4th and it ends up bieng another Owen Daniels or such, then I guess I'll eat this posting!!!!!
Sage may have issues protecting the ball, but so would a rookie that's slated to be a career NFL back up.
If we can get a third, maybe, but not for a 4th unless we sign a FA, which if theres one out there why wouldn't the Bikes just do that, rather than give up a pick.
In closing, if we get a 4th and it ends up bieng another Owen Daniels or such, then I guess I'll eat this posting!!!!!
bah007
Hall of Fame
I wouldn't trade him just for the sake of trading him though.
They better have a backup plan, whether it be Brink or a veteran FA like Garcia.
GlassHalfFull
Hall of Fame
We would probably have lost him next year due to free agency, so we might as well get something for him. I wish him well, but am not at all sorry to see him go. And I would be willing to bet, after the Rosencopter disaster, he will be happy to see Houston in his rear view mirror.
Blake
MMQB
Its hard to say if he thinks Brink is the man, but I can see them praying that Matt stays healthy, and if they have to they will sign Nall. But its just a guessing game.
Also I think it should be their 3rd round pick. He is a QB and their picks are low in the rounds.
HOU-TEX
Ah, Football!
I guess I'm still on the fence on this deal. If it were for a 3, I'd be all over it. A 4th doesn't seem worth having to find another capable backup. I know Rosenchoke made a few really boneheaded decisions, but he was still a decent backup.
Eh, as Big Lou pointed out, I might end up giddy as heck come draft time.
Eh, as Big Lou pointed out, I might end up giddy as heck come draft time.
texanfan2002114
Veteran
According to John McClain, a couple of weeks ago. He was on the radio here in Houston and said that the Texans were going to have to do something with Sage because Sage didn't like Kubes that much and really didn't want to be back next year.
The reason why Sage didn't like was due to the fact that all Kubes did was yell at him and he got sick in tired of it during his last couple of years here. So seeing Sage being traded today is no suprise and if we did get a 4th for him, I'll take it.
The reason why Sage didn't like was due to the fact that all Kubes did was yell at him and he got sick in tired of it during his last couple of years here. So seeing Sage being traded today is no suprise and if we did get a 4th for him, I'll take it.
Old School
Rookie
http://www.texanstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=59033
There is your backup plan....Jake the Snake is back in business!!
Hervoyel
BUENO!
I'm fairly certain they do. The potential backups available right now are better than the options when Sage was brought in.
Personally I thought it was a stupid mistake to not move the guy last year for a 3 but to get the opportunity to move him again, even for a 4 is just dumb luck. I think you send him packing for that 4 as fast as you can. The Vikings have some kind of weird attraction to the 'copter so take their pick before they come to their senses.
But again, I really doubt that they'd move him if they had no backup plan. They can get what Sage has almost anywhere in the NFL. Lets just be thankful that Minnesota hasn't worked that out yet.
GP
Go Texans!
The Vikings apparently see some value in Sage, enough value that they are willing to give us a draft pick...when they could easily have a do-over in this year's draft or find other free agents (Plummer?) that won't cost them a draft pick.
And: Although there was not much news about it last off-season, there was an attempt by the Vikings to get Sage in return for a 3rd rounder. But we wanted a 2nd rounder. Holding out for a 2nd rounder could have been unsettling for Sage, restricting the opportunity for him to be a starter in Minnesota.
Now there's renewed interest by the same team.
I think the Texans get it done this time. I can't see them making Sage stay here another year under the exact same situation as before. We could have had a 3rd rounder had we done the deal last off-season, but Matt's injury situation was unclear and the Texans decided to retain Sage.
If Brink is the new backup, I hope he's improved. I didn't see many people (here) saying he was anything special. And it wouldn't make sense to dump Sage and then go out and grab some castaway free agent.
I have a feeling we're targeting a QB in the 2nd or 3rd.
And: Although there was not much news about it last off-season, there was an attempt by the Vikings to get Sage in return for a 3rd rounder. But we wanted a 2nd rounder. Holding out for a 2nd rounder could have been unsettling for Sage, restricting the opportunity for him to be a starter in Minnesota.
Now there's renewed interest by the same team.
I think the Texans get it done this time. I can't see them making Sage stay here another year under the exact same situation as before. We could have had a 3rd rounder had we done the deal last off-season, but Matt's injury situation was unclear and the Texans decided to retain Sage.
If Brink is the new backup, I hope he's improved. I didn't see many people (here) saying he was anything special. And it wouldn't make sense to dump Sage and then go out and grab some castaway free agent.
I have a feeling we're targeting a QB in the 2nd or 3rd.
bah007
Hall of Fame
A lot of people here were turned off by the selection. By I, and a few others, thought it was a great move.
Brink had a lot of success in college. He rewrote the record books at Washington St.
He doesn't have all the measurables but he has a good mental grasp of the game and his skill set is perfect for our offense.
If Kubes thinks he is ready to be the backup then I'm all for it because I think that Brink can get it done.
HOU-TEX
Ah, Football!
bigbrewster2000
Veteran
Well boo freaking hoo. Wahhh coach always yells at me!!! My pee-pee hurts.(in best whiney voice) BTW where did you hear that unsubstantiated rumor?
If that were true he needs to quit playing football. Every player gets yelled at for screwing up.
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Polo
Guest
Having observed the Texans since Kubiak has taken over I think it's much more likely that there will be some type of competition for the back-up QB spot...
I doubt he annoints anyone.
bah007
Hall of Fame
That wasn't what I was getting at.
I'm pretty certain we will bring in a third QB via FA or the draft.
But I think Brink has the tools to win that battle unless it is one of the top flight FA QB's. That's all.
HoustonFrog
Dallas Frog
After missing out last year on a 3rd or whatever I'd take a 4th and run. He proved last year to be a backup but one that still had ball handling problems. There are some vets out there that can step in I believe.
ATX
Hall of Fame
Sal Rosenberg
Rookie
I was really hoping for a third rounder
Giant Tiger
Veteran
That's what I'm thinking as well. Let's see how he does for his new team before settling on a pick for this year. Still need a veteran QB, though.
What kind of dream land are y'all living in?
Its all totally logical. QB is the most important position...
On a serious note, we should have pulled the trigger last year. I'm sorry the interception machine is sad he gets yelled at. If it makes you mad, dont throw picks. Freakin loser. I HATE Sage.
badboy
Hall of Fame
NFL must have a prior incident before taking a pick
texanfan2002114
Veteran
Like I said, I heard it from John McClain on the radio a couple of weeks back while he was doing his weekly radio broadcast on 610am. I would just write any crap on here unless I heard from someone.
I'm not sure what you mean. Do you think he's learned from past mistakes? He has certainly "annointed" his top QBs in Matt and Sage so far. I guess he's had some competition for practice squad or injury replacement QB though.
dalemurphy
Hall of Fame
So, listening to 610, this trade became somewhat public knowledge when Sage texted Eric Winston, who was at the chili cookoff. I guess Winston is the leak. Anyway, the 610 guys indicated that they did find out about it yesterday. Appparently, Eric Winson is very close friends with Sage.
Htownsportsfan
Rookie
That makes me laugh because half the folks I hear complaining about Kubiak is he shows no emotion and isn't Hot tempered enough. I guess it just depends on which side of the ass chewing you are on!
texanfan2002114
Veteran
Sage is going to be in Eric's wedding according to matt on 610.
Doug Flutie, Kurt Warner, Tony Romo, and Tom Brady were all obscure back-ups at one time.
I'm just saying.
I'm just saying.
So was Matt Schaub
You'e right...... It's just the "Unknown" factor that make's everyone say "What tha....?", at this point..
Obviously we're not the Patriots, but how many people knew that Cassel could come in and keep the Patriots offense moving and win 12 games.... Other than him having knowledge of the play book, the guy had never started in college or the NFL....
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Polo
Guest
He also anointed Diles.
I just don't think that he would annoint Brink as the second QB without having in game action. Normally guys that he have annointed have atleast had some kind of production on gameday or we paid a lot to get them.
dalemurphy
Hall of Fame
Sure, but if he has confidence in Brinks' abilities then it makes this deal easier to do, even if they plan to go find a veteran.
Specnatz
Hall of Fame
How did he anoint Dile? He said the plan was for him to be the starter going into 2008 but that preseason would dictate what happens. Not to mention he saw how each played throughout the 2007 season. Playing time was actually earned based on performance. Just as how Greenwood lost his jub for the lack of it.