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Safety - Antonio Allen signs with Texans

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As per several Twitter sources, the Texans have agreed to a deal with Safety, Antonio Allen.

@JaysonBraddock
@PatDStat among the few
 
Antonio Allen played a hybrid linebacker for South Carolina. He appears to be a good fit for the role the team attempted to use Swearinger in 2014. Given that a converted CB (Hal) has established himself as a definite starter at one safety position, it makes sense to add some physicality to the secondary, even if he isn't an every down starter.

 
Hmmm, not sure how I feel about that. Didn't he just come off a serious injury like Foster? (torn Achilles)

Here's hoping he works out for us though!
 
This is an excellent video. He is a very physical player, has good instincts, and understands and played a lot of zone defense. This isn't a highlight package- he makes a number of mistakes, but I also see a lot to like.... if he gets healthy, of course.

 
His achilles injury occurred in the first week of August. 13 months from surgery to first regular season game for a 25 year old is not wishful thinking. He looks like a potential asset on special teams and a specialty defender in certain packages-- anything from linebacker in dime packages to cornerback in three tight end, goal line packages. Pretty interesting chess piece for Romeo to play with.
 
Nitrofish said:
I would like to hear what @CloakNNNdagger thinks about this. I am not thrilled about signing players with these kind of injuries. What say you Doc?
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I'm not Doc (although that actually is my nickname) and I get not wanting to sign a safety with a quetionable achilles, BUT it is only a 1 year deal from what I've heard. That lack of dedication makes me feel better that we're not going to try to push him into the line-up unless he earns the spot on the field.
 
dalemurphy said:
His achilles injury occurred in the first week of August. 13 months from surgery to first regular season game for a 25 year old is not wishful thinking. He looks like a potential asset on special teams and a specialty defender in certain packages-- anything from linebacker in dime packages to cornerback in three tight end, goal line packages. Pretty interesting chess piece for Romeo to play with.
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Interesting but not "ooh and ahh" inspiring. I'd just as soon have Demps back in the fold. Experience in the system and all.
 
The Pencil Neck said:
I'm not Doc (although that actually is my nickname) and I get not wanting to sign a safety with a quetionable achilles, BUT it is only a 1 year deal from what I've heard. That lack of dedication makes me feel better that we're not going to try to push him into the line-up unless he earns the spot on the field.
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It's all in the guaranteed money.
 
dalemurphy said:
This is an excellent video. He is a very physical player, has good instincts, and understands and played a lot of zone defense. This isn't a highlight package- he makes a number of mistakes, but I also see a lot to like.... if he gets healthy, of course.

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What I liked best was that he didn't make a fool out of himself after running the ball in for TD's
 
Nitrofish said:
I would like to hear what @CloakNNNdagger thinks about this. I am not thrilled about signing players with these kind of injuries. What say you Doc?
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I'm not sure that we're getting a player that will be contributing much. An Achilles tendon rupture carries with it some definite reasons to be guarded, especially for a player that requires quickness. Even though there had been marveling over Demeco's performance the year after he left us, he ranked 52 out of 53 ILB by PFF........#53 was out of football the next year. Demeco's "success" in Philly has been measured in his tackles.........because the D was designed to funnel plays directly down the middle, with little need for him to maneuver side-to-side. Then last year, he suffered his second Achilles rupture on the opposite side. Unfortunately, this is not an uncommon occurrence, since an Achilles rupture is an overuse problem. Players such as the Cardinal's Corey Peters, the Seahawks' Anthony McCoy, and Eagles' Jason Peters to mention a few, have all come back from an Achilles rupture just to rupture their opposite Achilles. In fact statistics show that a second rupture is ~200 times higher risk to occur than the normal population. Approximately 2.5 % of players will suffer a 2nd same side rupture and 6-7% of players will suffer a 2nd opposite side rupture. Terrel Suggs was the magic man when he returned in a miraculous just under 5 months [The norm still remains 6-9 months, and usually closer to the 9 months.]. But what was left out of virtually every report was that he only suffered a small partial tear which was repaired with minimally-invasive technique...............and he went on to rupture his opposite Achilles 2 years later. In fact, the 2nd ruptures will occur at a median of 3 years from the time of the first. For those that make it back, performance is typically adversely affected progressively after 2 years post rupture.............and those that may come back with any semblance of decent performance are most likely to have been picked in the 1st or 2nd round. As a 7th rounder, I would hope that the Texans have a clause protecting themselves for injury with incentives built into a contract that promises a very modest base.

Hope that gives you some perspective.
 
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Is versatility still a thing with this team? If so I think that this is what Allen is about. At worst he's a training camp body.
 
What I don't get is we have guys like Kendrick Lewis and Quentin Demps play well for us, but it seems there's no interest to bring them back the next year?
 
dream_team said:
What I don't get is we have guys like Kendrick Lewis and Quentin Demps play well for us, but it seems there's no interest to bring them back the next year?
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my understanding was Texans expected Lewis to come back and he left with no "you're gonna miss me" just gone.
I feel confident Smith is allowing Demps and Crick to test waters and will then offer each a reasonable contract. Both had decent years 2015 and probably hoped someone would present them with booyah dollars; didn't happen in first wave of signings bringing them back to earth.
 
badboy said:
$800,000 per local Fox sports; no mention of signing bonus or other guarantee.
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Minimum salary for a 4 year veteran is $760,000, so chances are if it's exactly $800,000, then he's getting a minimum base salary (which would qualify the contract for the minimum salary benefit), and then a $40,000 signing bonus. If that's the case, then the cap hit for 2016 would be $640,000 with the bonus of $40,000 becoming dead money if he's cut prior to the first game.
 
Safe enough deal for us. Not really sure he's going to do anything but there is very little risk.
 
badboy said:
why doesn't his signing bonus count towards cap?
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It does, but not all of his base salary counts towards it.

If you're a veteran with four or more years of service, and you sign a one year contract with the veterans minimum as base, and no more than an $80,000 signing bonus, then your base salary counts against the cap only up to the minimum salary for a player with two years of service. (There's also a stipulation regarding the maximum amount of guaranteed base salary, but that doesn't appear to be in play here) Since the two year minimum salary is $600,000, Allen's cap hit is that $600,000 plus his bonus amount.
 
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