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S.I.com top 10 disappointing running backs

raytex said:
There's alot of players in the NFL that are overrated. But I only see Reggie and Vince's name coming up on this board when they mention overrated.
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So I quess you've not seen any of the; Petey Fagins, Flanagan, McKinney, C.C. Brown, Earl, Greenwood, Salaam, Daivd Carr, Dayne, Gaffeny, Allen, Wells, etc threads that have filled these boards over the years.

Yup the only people we ever talk about are Reggie Bush and Vince Young.

Get over it!
 
Specnatz said:
The reason I would take him off is because of when he suffered the injury. The body of work is not there to say one way or the other. Your trying to project what he would have or would not have done up to this point and I have never liked that because that never comes true either for the good or the bad of any player.
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I'm not projecting. I'm averaging his stats for 3 and 1/2 games. That's almost a 1/4 of a season. He was doing OK up to that point. And Like I said before, getting injured is part of the equation. It's not the whole equation but it is part of it.
 
Hoth-Boy said:
So I quess you've not seen any of the; Petey Fagins, Flanagan, McKinney, C.C. Brown, Earl, Greenwood, Salaam, Daivd Carr, Dayne, Gaffeny, Allen, Wells, etc threads that have filled these boards over the years.

Yup the only people we ever talk about are Reggie Bush and Vince Young.

Get over it!
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Umm. You just mentioned Texans players. I was implying about other than Texans players. Last time I checked, Bush was not on the Texans roster. Maybe you need to get over it.
 
raytex said:
I'm not projecting. I'm averaging his stats for 3 and 1/2 games. That's almost a 1/4 of a season. He was doing OK up to that point. And Like I said before, getting injured is part of the equation. It's not the whole equation but it is part of it.
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OK then lets just take Reggie's stats through the first 3 1/2 games and see how he compares to Williams.
 
raytex said:
Umm. You just mentioned Texans players. I was implying about other than Texans players. Last time I checked, Bush was not on the Texans roster. Maybe you need to get over it.
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By naming Texans I was trying to demonstrate that we are more then willing to bash our own, much less players from rivals or the rest of the NFL.

But since you insist, non-Texans whom hve been called overrated on these boards:
Byron Leftwich
LenDale White
Carlos Rogers
Any Denver RB
Eli Manning
Asante Samuel

To name just a few.

Reggie Bushand VY will always be talked about here due to the nature of the 06 draft.
 
Wolf said:
my first thought was julius peppers,reading the message boards in carolina... tough crowd ,yet understand Julius is having a tough year
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Julius has averaged 11 sacks a year in his career. He's earned every penny.. He's just had a bad year.
I don't understand why any Panther fan would complain about him...
 
raytex said:
There's alot of players in the NFL that are overrated. But I only see Reggie and Vince's name coming up on this board when they mention overrated.
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jesum crow is it hard to figure out? the media has blasted the Texans for not taking either player, and lots of Texans fans wanted either player. and both players are underperforming big time. what's so hard to understand about this? both players are OBVIOUSLY going to be a huge topic of discussion on this board. i love the "oh gee apparently you guys dont like this guy ur always talking about him" YAWN.
 
kastofsna said:
jesum crow is it hard to figure out? the media has blasted the Texans for not taking either player, and lots of Texans fans wanted either player. and both players are underperforming big time. what's so hard to understand about this? both players are OBVIOUSLY going to be a huge topic of discussion on this board. i love the "oh gee apparently you guys dont like this guy ur always talking about him" YAWN.
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If you read my earlier post, you would see that I mentioned the 06 draft as the reason. I understand that. I was asking more as a "we need to get over it" because the media doesn't really matter in the long scheme of things. As I mentioned before, it's almost 2008 and we keep talking about it.
 
kastofsna said:
jesum crow is it hard to figure out? the media has blasted the Texans for not taking either player, and lots of Texans fans wanted either player. and both players are underperforming big time. what's so hard to understand about this? both players are OBVIOUSLY going to be a huge topic of discussion on this board. i love the "oh gee apparently you guys dont like this guy ur always talking about him" YAWN.
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All three are are not performing up to expectations, so yeah, it's getting old. I have to deal with a Bush lover at work. When I remind him that after 9 weeks of play Bush accounts for a whopping 755 yards of total offense, he usually says something like what Bush means to the team. Uh-uh, yeah, whatever. LOL

Bush so far:
451 rushing
304 passing
 
Thorn said:
All three are are not performing up to expectations, so yeah, it's getting old. I have to deal with a Bush lover at work. When I remind him that after 9 weeks of play Bush accounts for a whopping 755 yards of total offense, he usually says something like what Bush means to the team. Uh-uh, yeah, whatever. LOL

Bush so far:
451 rushing
304 passing
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You forgot the return yards, them all purpose yards are so important.
 
bah007 said:
No. I dont.

But this thread is for the top 10 disappointing running backs & I havent seen Mario Williams in the backfield lately.
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Thats part and parcel of the reason so many Texan fans are disappointed in him...

:mario: (still running in place)

:includeme:

:coffee:
 
I've seen a lot of hate for Bush. And those people that think the opinions and downright vitriol are purely objective criticisms not tainted by anything aside from pure performance are deluding themselves.

This board relishes in anything possibly negative.

This thread was posted for one reason - to trash Reggie Bush again.

And that's fine - but don't try and say that it's a product of criticism that all of you would level on any other player in the NFL. It's hate. Not from everyone - but from a lot.

Do a search for that open letter to Reggie Bush that was posted a while back and what that generated.

If that's not player hate, then I don't know what it is.

You can name other players that are criticized, but since the 06 draft there has been no bigger pastime on these boards for non-Texans football than to bash Reggie. I've been reading this board a while - since I lived in Houston - even before I registered a year ago. VY gets a lot of attention as well, but it seems that more enjoyment is taken in Bush's failures in any capacity - on and off the football field.

Like I said - go ahead, bash away. But don't try and convince me that it's just typical criticism of someone who hasn't lived up to the hype.

I love how people are expecting Reggie Bush to be an all-everything and believe he should be producing all-everything numbers right now. But Mario Williams gets the "he just needs time and experience" and myriad other excuses by the same people.

Both of these players are in their second year and nobody knows ten years down the road how the careers of these two players shape up.

As a Saints fan, it hurts that Reggie has not lived up to expectation. I want him to do more. I want Payton to call more runs and stick with it when it works instead of always defaulting to his passing schemes when they aren't working.

I will say, though, that I am glad for the publicity Reggie is getting - for the most part - because it keeps New Orleans and the city's rebuilding in the national consciousness. But that's a story for another board.

But yes, the media saturation is bound to lead to high expectations. And any fan, especially a Saints fan, has the right to be disappointed in Reggie's lack of production.

And Texans fans as well, due to the history behind the pick, are expected to be critical.

But most of the comments on here go beyond mere criticism. If that's your bag, more power to you - but recognize it for what it is.

Hoping for a good, injury-free game on Sunday.

Raz
 
this thread was actually posted because of Ahman Green.

as i said before, when the team was roasted for passing on Bush (the Sam Bouie comparisons), and when the Texans fans are roasted by everyone else, they're going to pay close attention to the guy that they were apparently so idiotic for passing on. the player that's been sold as "once in a lifetime" since his sophomore year in college. the player that Al Michaels shouted on national television during a Saints game "How could the Texans pass on this guy??"

i guess you don't have any experience like that with the draft razor. for example, as much as i like Brady Quinn, there's a tiny bit of me that wants to see Quinn not look so hot just so i can shut up those folks who killed me and Miami for not taking the "right guy/the guy you can't pass on/etc." also makes me want to see Ted Ginn and John Beck do that much better.
 
RazorOye said:
Like I said - go ahead, bash away. But don't try and convince me that it's just typical criticism of someone who hasn't lived up to the hype.

I love how people are expecting Reggie Bush to be an all-everything and believe he should be producing all-everything numbers right now. But Mario Williams gets the "he just needs time and experience" and myriad other excuses by the same people.

Both of these players are in their second year and nobody knows ten years down the road how the careers of these two players shape up.
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Many who do this can't see their inconsistency. Many of these fans were arguing with me about giving Carr 5 years to "prove himself" but guys like VY and RB 'just suck' and must show they are dominant players right away...just because. Heck I rarely even click on any threads involving any player we passed on because they are mostly just a session in brain damage.
RazorOye said:
As a Saints fan, it hurts that Reggie has not lived up to expectation. I want him to do more.
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Same thing about Mario for me, but most of the fans think that it's ok to be a slow learner/developer if you are in the right colors. The bottom line really is that young players often struggle...that's the norm.
RazorOye said:
Hoping for a good, injury-free game on Sunday.

Raz
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yep, me too...good post.
 
Second Honeymoon said:
because he hasn't been as disappointing as the 10 on this list. You see most writers out there don't have this incessant desire to prove that Reggie sucks and that the Texans made the right choice. They would be the first to tell you that Reggie hasn't lived up to the hype but they would also follow that by saying he hasn't been a disappointment especially when compared to some of the guys on this list. It seems that so many around here just want Reggie and VY to fail to somehow justify the Texans stupidity in selecting Mario #1 and not going with competitors like RB or VY or trading down. The Texans were stupid and it was all because of $$ and signability....and nothing to do with football...no matter how many times they tell you the contrary... Thanks Bob, Gary, and Asserley.
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Hellooooo....... genius..

What Reggie is doing for the Saints, would have been the same thing he'd have been doing for us, had we picked him with the #1 overall.

It's stupid to continue & be angry with the Texans for choosing Mario over Reggie.

If nothing else, we can say there wasn't a clear #1 at the top of the '06 Draft.

The no brainer thing to do would have been to take the QB, but we botched that decision earlier that same year.

To clarify, I'm not calling you stupid, unless you're saying that you'd have taken Reggie Bush with the first overall pick, knowing what you know now.

D'Brickshaw probably should have been the pick.

Trading down... after we said we didn't get any good offers, & the Saints saying the same thing, we should be pretty clear on the fact, that there were no feasible trade down options.

Unless you'd like to be arguing how stupid the Texans were for trading down for less than fair value.
 
RazorOye said:
I've seen a lot of hate for Bush. And those people that think the opinions and downright vitriol are purely objective criticisms not tainted by anything aside from pure performance are deluding themselves.

This board relishes in anything possibly negative.

This thread was posted for one reason - to trash Reggie Bush again.

And that's fine - but don't try and say that it's a product of criticism that all of you would level on any other player in the NFL. It's hate. Not from everyone - but from a lot.

Do a search for that open letter to Reggie Bush that was posted a while back and what that generated.

If that's not player hate, then I don't know what it is.

You can name other players that are criticized, but since the 06 draft there has been no bigger pastime on these boards for non-Texans football than to bash Reggie. I've been reading this board a while - since I lived in Houston - even before I registered a year ago. VY gets a lot of attention as well, but it seems that more enjoyment is taken in Bush's failures in any capacity - on and off the football field.

Like I said - go ahead, bash away. But don't try and convince me that it's just typical criticism of someone who hasn't lived up to the hype.

I love how people are expecting Reggie Bush to be an all-everything and believe he should be producing all-everything numbers right now. But Mario Williams gets the "he just needs time and experience" and myriad other excuses by the same people.

Both of these players are in their second year and nobody knows ten years down the road how the careers of these two players shape up.

As a Saints fan, it hurts that Reggie has not lived up to expectation. I want him to do more. I want Payton to call more runs and stick with it when it works instead of always defaulting to his passing schemes when they aren't working.

I will say, though, that I am glad for the publicity Reggie is getting - for the most part - because it keeps New Orleans and the city's rebuilding in the national consciousness. But that's a story for another board.

But yes, the media saturation is bound to lead to high expectations. And any fan, especially a Saints fan, has the right to be disappointed in Reggie's lack of production.

And Texans fans as well, due to the history behind the pick, are expected to be critical.

But most of the comments on here go beyond mere criticism. If that's your bag, more power to you - but recognize it for what it is.

Hoping for a good, injury-free game on Sunday.

Raz
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you're 100% correct- reggie does take more flak about his performances than other both here and elsewhere but thats what happens when you're hyped to the last before coming out and end up just very average..

why does this surprise you? you dont think mario took excessive punishment from the media, on MB's etc in the leadup and following to the draft... who was the last prospect as hyped as reggie?? vick? he took plenty of excessive criticism too..

and mario's taken plenty of crap too as well as the other two.. dont worry
 
RazorOye said:
I've seen a lot of hate for Bush. And those people that think the opinions and downright vitriol are purely objective criticisms not tainted by anything aside from pure performance are deluding themselves.

This board relishes in anything possibly negative.

This thread was posted for one reason - to trash Reggie Bush again.

And that's fine - but don't try and say that it's a product of criticism that all of you would level on any other player in the NFL. It's hate. Not from everyone - but from a lot.

Do a search for that open letter to Reggie Bush that was posted a while back and what that generated.


If that's not player hate, then I don't know what it is.

You can name other players that are criticized, but since the 06 draft there has been no bigger pastime on these boards for non-Texans football than to bash Reggie. I've been reading this board a while - since I lived in Houston - even before I registered a year ago. VY gets a lot of attention as well, but it seems that more enjoyment is taken in Bush's failures in any capacity - on and off the football field.

Like I said - go ahead, bash away. But don't try and convince me that it's just typical criticism of someone who hasn't lived up to the hype.

I love how people are expecting Reggie Bush to be an all-everything and believe he should be producing all-everything numbers right now. But Mario Williams gets the "he just needs time and experience" and myriad other excuses by the same people.

Both of these players are in their second year and nobody knows ten years down the road how the careers of these two players shape up.

As a Saints fan, it hurts that Reggie has not lived up to expectation. I want him to do more. I want Payton to call more runs and stick with it when it works instead of always defaulting to his passing schemes when they aren't working.

I will say, though, that I am glad for the publicity Reggie is getting - for the most part - because it keeps New Orleans and the city's rebuilding in the national consciousness. But that's a story for another board.

But yes, the media saturation is bound to lead to high expectations. And any fan, especially a Saints fan, has the right to be disappointed in Reggie's lack of production.

And Texans fans as well, due to the history behind the pick, are expected to be critical.

But most of the comments on here go beyond mere criticism. If that's your bag, more power to you - but recognize it for what it is.

Hoping for a good, injury-free game on Sunday.

Raz
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This thread was posted to show how our RB situation sucks. How it turned into a bash Bush thread I have no idea. Bush isn't on the Texans, so I could care less how he does.
 
kastofsna said:
because Cadillac has sucked for a while now and Ronnie Brown was one of the league's premier running backs before his injury.
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You're right. But Ronnie Brown being injured is disappointing. Frank Gore and Steven Jackson have been hurt as well. It's a stupid list, all I'm saying.
 
I think of all the things to be listing, something as subjective as a "dissappointment" just smacks of bad journalism. People will always make excuses for their guys (Injuries), and try to add other guys they just plain don't like for one reason or another (I'll let you guess who).

To be perfectly honest, if I were going to create a list like that, I'd definitley omit any player who hasn't played in more than 6 games due to injuries. If I were going to point fingers, like this list does, I'd make up a different list of "Top 10 Dissappointing Injuries".

Who do you guys think is a huge dissappointment, who has started a majority of their teams games this year? My vote would have to go to the 2005 MVP Shaun Alexander, although Henry for the Broncos has to be right up there for me.
 
MightyTExan said:
This thread was posted to show how our RB situation sucks. How it turned into a bash Bush thread I have no idea. Bush isn't on the Texans, so I could care less how he does.
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sorry about oversight, Mighty T.

By the time I got to the end of the thread, I thought the first thread mentioned both Green at #6 and the "how does Bush not make this list" comment - it was the second.

My apologies...
 
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