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Ryan Mallett

Man, my faith in what the FO is doing is being shaken hard. WTF are they thinking being this inactive in resigning people
 
htownfan32 said:
Man, my faith in what the FO is doing is being shaken hard. WTF are they thinking being this inactive in resigning people
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I got it,,,,, We are going to trade away 100% of our roster, and use the draft to build our entire 2015 team. 53 man rookie roster :kitten:

:tiphat:
 
I may be wrong, but in my mind, the "full-court press" for Mallet by the Jets is not a very realistic scenario. The Jets have the 6th pick in the Draft which for them would be the better route to go for QB, while picking up an established track-record (albeit not great) veteran like Hoyer or Geno Smith who could tutor him until he is ready. The Texans are more likely to see "potential" in Mallet and be willing to hitch themselves to a QB that has really no "history," except for one of recent injury. I don't believe that teams outside of Houston see things through the same eyes that we in Houston do.........and, with all due respect to Braddock, I believe it's more our "paranoia" here than reality that a team like the Jets buy the farm, even a small farm to snatch Mallet from the Texans.


EDIT: If any Houston target exists, in light of the Jets need for CB, I see it more likely as KJ.
 
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brg88tx said:
JB said:
He's not officially a free agent yet is he? I mean no one else can sign him before the 10th right?
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tomorrow, march 7th other teams can start talking with free agents.
march 10th they can start signing them.
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Right. They can agree in principal, but no signing. The Texans would have a chance to match, but I wouldn't.
 
infantrycak said:
Without knowing the offer you know you wouldn't match?
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Yes.

I would have already offered him my best deal before allowing him to talk to other teams. I'm thinking my best offer would be more than generous giving his playing time so far & assuming OB sees something in him.

If he can't see that, then he can't see that, & that means something to me.

If he's willing to go to the next team for a few million more, I don't want him, he's not the guy I'm looking for. If the next team is willing to offer substantially more than I valued him at... I don't want him.

I was looking for a QB when he showed up. I'm not scared to go forward without him.
 
thunderkyss said:
Yes.

I would have already offered him my best deal before allowing him to talk to other teams.
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It's very common, and with good reason, where there is a gap between a player and team to see what other teams will pay.

These guys don't come with price tags and there isn't a stock exchange ticker with their current values. Everyone is guessing on what the very limited market will bear.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
EDIT: If any Houston target exists, in light of the Jets need for CB, I see it more likely as KJ.
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The AFC East could be targeting Jackson. The Jets, Phins, and Pats (if they lose Revis) could all be in on Kareem.

I could see the Jets talking to Mallett. But, I can't see them outbidding the Texans. I was more worried about the Browns and the Bills, and they've already picked up QBs.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
I may be wrong, but in my mind, the "full-court press" for Mallet by the Jets is not a very realistic scenario. The Jets have the 6th pick in the Draft which for them would be the better route to go for QB, while picking up an established track-record (albeit not great) veteran like Hoyer or Geno Smith who could tutor him until he is ready. The Texans are more likely to see "potential" in Mallet and be willing to hitch themselves to a QB that has really no "history," except for one of recent injury. I don't believe that teams outside of Houston see things through the same eyes that we in Houston do.........and, with all due respect to Braddock, I believe it's more our "paranoia" here than reality that a team like the Jets buy the farm, even a small farm to snatch Mallet from the Texans.


EDIT: If any Houston target exists, in light of the Jets need for CB, I see it more likely as KJ.
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Yet if Jets sign Mallett and then trade #6 to Philly for a bundle to reunite Mariota and Coach, Jets could have an amazing off season.
 
what is plan be if Mallett does not return? I don't see anyone out there I want so Fitz and Savage? If no Mallett we can do 8-8 or maybe 9-7.
 
badboy said:
What is Plan B if Mallett does not return?
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infantrycak said:
It's very common, and with good reason, where there is a gap between a player and team to see what other teams will pay.

These guys don't come with price tags and there isn't a stock exchange ticker with their current values. Everyone is guessing on what the very limited market will bear.
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Be that as it may... I wouldn't match.

But like I said, I was very generous from the start. My deal is probably the most lucrative anyway.
 
badboy said:
what is plan be if Mallett does not return? I don't see anyone out there I want so Fitz and Savage? If no Mallett we can do 8-8 or maybe 9-7.
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If Hop, Arian, & Jj can have similar years next season, 8 or 9 wins isn't out of the question. If we can get something from Crick & Cush...... a TE... maybe better play from the QB position, we could probably win those three games we let slip away.

:fans:
 
thunderkyss said:
If Hop, Arian, & Jj can have similar years next season, 8 or 9 wins isn't out of the question. If we can get something from Crick & Cush...... a TE... maybe better play from the QB position, we could probably win those three games we let slip away.

:fans:
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agreed and adding a slot/returner and outside WR at minimum balances losing AJ; to clarify, the slot improvement adds to the new WR even if not a Maclin.
 
As much as Florio seems to dislike the Texans, not so much as a mention of Mallet being in the Jets hunt.

Matt Moore may make sense for the Jets
Posted by Mike Florio on March 6, 2015, 11:41 PM EST


From the moment the Jets traded for receiver Brandon Marshall, speculation commenced about the identity of his quarterback. With the new regime of G.M. Mike MacCagnan and coach Todd Bowles having no loyalty to Geno Smith (and with Smith not exactly showing a consistently high degree of ability), the Jets will likely at least explore other options.

The most obvious candidate, for speculation’s sake, becomes Bears quarterback Jay Cutler. After all, Cutler and Marshall have twice played together, in Denver and in Chicago. But the Jets reportedly aren’t interested in Cutler.

Marshall has played in another town, with a quarterback who was voted the team’s MVP in 2011. That’s the same year Todd Bowles was promoted from defensive coordinator to interim head coach in Miami, after the firing of Tony Sparano.

The quarterback was Matt Moore, who is due to become a free agent on Tuesday. In 12 starts four years ago, he completed 2,497 yards, averaged 7.2 yards per attempt, threw 16 touchdown passes and nine interceptions, and generated a passer rating of 87.2.

Moore wouldn’t bring much cachet to New York, but what are the other options? Ryan Fitzpatrick, who has played for offensive coordinator Chan Gailey? Sticking with Geno Smith? Brian Hoyer? Matt Schaub?

In 2013, the Dolphins gave Moore a two-year, $8 million contract to remain the backup to Ryan Tannehill. A reunion with Bowles and Marshall could give Moore a chance to start again, for the first time since the final game of the 2011 season — which was a 19-17 win over the Jets.
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Well we could always pick up a few running backs and run the triple option :troll: with the odd Adrian pass for a td !:pirate:
 
badboy said:
what is plan be if Mallett does not return? I don't see anyone out there I want so Fitz and Savage? If no Mallett we can do 8-8 or maybe 9-7.
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Playoffs said:
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You mean the same plan as last year ?!


Hell I doubt the outcome is much different with or without Mallett when you consider the current options , potential free agents & the prospects available at 16 , 51 or later.

This year will look very much like last year ... unless they strike gold in an unlikely spot.


8-8 or 9-7 on the outside looking in ...
 
There's no logical scenario where Mallett leaves Houston. His best bet for a big contract in two years is to continue playing within the system he's been studying for the past four. What ace up the sleeve would the Jets pull, a Matt Flynn type move because of one Browns game? There may be some competing "prove it" contracts offerred, but nothing outside the range of what Houston's willing to pay.
 
Corrosion said:
You mean the same plan as last year ?!


Hell I doubt the outcome is much different with or without Mallett when you consider the current options , potential free agents & the prospects available at 16 , 51 or later.

This year will look very much like last year ... unless they strike gold in an unlikely spot.


8-8 or 9-7 on the outside looking in ...
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Very Kubiak/Schaub like.

Since this is a new regime I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt that they can break this seemingly everlasting chain of mediocrity. If Mallett re-signs I actually would be somewhat happy with 9-7 for a 1st time starting QB playing a much harder schedule than last yr. Patience is the key.

The wildcard is Clowney, if he makes it back and is dominant, (Unlikely) then all bets are off.
 
steelbtexan said:
Very Kubiak/Schaub like.

Since this is a new regime I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt that they can break this seemingly everlasting chain of mediocrity. If Mallett re-signs I actually would be somewhat happy with 9-7 for a 1st time starting QB playing a much harder schedule than last yr. Patience is the key.

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Really? We're starting that already?
 
Brisco_County said:
There's no logical scenario where Mallett leaves Houston. His best bet for a big contract in two years is to continue playing within the system he's been studying for the past four. What ace up the sleeve would the Jets pull, a Matt Flynn type move because of one Browns game? There may be some competing "prove it" contracts offerred, but nothing outside the range of what Houston's willing to pay.
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How do you know what Houston is willing to pay?
 
thunderkyss said:
Really? We're starting that already?
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It is never too soon to start making excuses. The coach has only been here a year - fans are still in hero-worshiping mode.

I expect some improvement, since O'Brien is making "all the right moves" in building the team to his specs. He has the resources, and it really shouldn't 5+ years to turn a team around and take them to the playoffs.
 
Runner said:
It is never too soon to start making excuses. The coach has only been here a year - fans are still in hero-worshiping mode.

I expect some improvement, since O'Brien is making "all the right moves" in building the team to his specs. He has the resources, and it really shouldn't 5+ years to turn a team around and take them to the playoffs.
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Don't tell Kubiak fans about the 5 + yrs thingy.

I think it's funny they are holding BOB to a different standard, all because he cut the beloved AJ.
 
steelbtexan said:
Don't tell Kubiak fans about the 5 + yrs thingy.

I think it's funny they are holding BOB to a different standard, all because he cut the beloved AJ.
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Don't confuse me with a Kubiak fan. I thought he was a good choice when he got year, wasn't impressed as the years wore on.

However. your "patience is the key" has a familiar, right-track ring to it.
 
steelbtexan said:
Don't tell Kubiak fans about the 5 + yrs thingy.

I think it's funny they are holding BOB to a different standard, all because he cut the beloved AJ.
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Is there something new out there. Last I heard, AJs Agent requested a release but had not been given one. There is no reason to do so until the Texans need Cap Space, so why do it.
 
steelbtexan said:
Well they did play a last yr and a 2nd place schedule this yr.

I know that you disagree with this line of thinking.
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It's fine to look at but everyone should know SOS based on the prior year means little. Among the division it's only 2 games difference and rankings in the division frequently change. Last year teams didn't play the 2-14 last place Texans, they played the 9-7 2nd place Texans.
 
steelbtexan said:
Well they did play a last yr and a 2nd place schedule this yr.

I know that you disagree with this line of thinking.
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The Texans 2014 opponents had a cumulative record of 115-141 (.449)

The 2015 scheduled opponents went 106-148-2 over that same period (.417). Only two other teams have 2015 opponents with a lower percentage.

I can see the whole concept of strength of schedule being dismissed when it relates to the upcoming season (I personally think it's pretty worthless), but if you're going to use it to evaluate things, I don't see how you can say 2015 will be "much harder" than 2014.
 
ChampionTexan said:
The Texans 2014 opponents had a cumulative record of 115-141 (.449)

The 2015 scheduled opponents went 106-148-2 over that same period (.417). Only two other teams have 2015 opponents with a lower percentage.

I can see the whole concept of strength of schedule being dismissed when it relates to the upcoming season (I personally think it's pretty worthless), but if you're going to use it to evaluate things, I don't see how you can say 2015 will be "much harder" than 2014.
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I think the AFC East is going to be much improved.
 
MistaRed said:
How do you know what Houston is willing to pay?
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Market price 2015 "prove it" contract.

But that's not the point. The point is that Mallet didn't spend four years studying a system from dusk 'til dawn so that one day he could skip town for the effing Jets.
 
Brisco_County said:
There's no logical scenario where Mallett leaves Houston. His best bet for a big contract in two years is to continue playing within the system he's been studying for the past four. What ace up the sleeve would the Jets pull, a Matt Flynn type move because of one Browns game? There may be some competing "prove it" contracts offerred, but nothing outside the range of what Houston's willing to pay.
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Well seeing as we haven't even offered him a contract I would say we are no more willing to overpay him than any other team. We will likely let the market decide his value then decide if he's worth it or not.
 
steelbtexan said:
Very Kubiak/Schaub like.

Since this is a new regime I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt that they can break this seemingly everlasting chain of mediocrity. If Mallett re-signs I actually would be somewhat happy with 9-7 for a 1st time starting QB playing a much harder schedule than last yr. Patience is the key.

The wildcard is Clowney, if he makes it back and is dominant, (Unlikely) then all bets are off.
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Well where in the hell is this team supposed to find this QB that can change it? They screwed it all up last season by drafting Clowney and ignoring several QB's on the board. Maybe they'll all stink any way. Who knows, but they did have two pretty good options and they had the first pick.

After that, the Texans have had zero options at getting a QB that can be their franchise. Doubtful there is one in this draft that they'll have a shot at, and there isn't one in free agency either. Mallet is their "only" option most likely. If they don't get Mallet, they're in the exact same position as last year.

People love to scream about QB's, but offer no solution at the position that the Texans would have any type of shot at. There are a lot of teams around the league that haven't had a QB for years. It's by far the hardest position to replace and find an adequate person to fulfill. Fans will complain about every QB possibility and will curse the team no matter who they take even if the options are terrible, but will also blast the team and the coaches even when they knew that the QB's available were all average at best. It isn't exactly a fair assessment.
 
Brisco_County said:
Market price 2015 "prove it" contract.

But that's not the point. The point is that Mallet didn't spend four years on the studying a system from dusk 'til dawn so that one he could skip town for the effing Jets.
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Yeah I don't think it's as big of a stretch as you're trying to make it. If the Jets offer more money why wouldn't he take it? Familiarity? I'm sure the Jets coaching staff is smart enough to play to mallets strengths.
 
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