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Ryan Fitzpatrick visiting Texans (signs)

thunderkyss said:
First, which offense did Fitzpatrick play in that was similar?

Second... we paid Sage to come in to be the back up for $3M back in 2006. A $1.5M increase in nine seasons isn't crazy. Starters not on their rookie contract get $6 or more. Heck, the Vikings signed Sage to a two year $9M deal after trading a 4th round pick for him to back up Tavaris Jackson.


The Jets signed Vick to a one year $5M deal. What are their expectations of Michael Vick?
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I have seen both OB and Fitz say on TV that he has payed in a similar offense, OB said the terminology was different but play was same. I'm almost positive it was also mentioned in the OTA thread that Fitz was a fit due to this and his intelligence. I have never watched him before.

I did not understand signing Sage either.
 
Brian T. Smith @ChronBrianSmith
Frerotte: "Look, dude, you’re either gonna run with the receivers or gonna slow it down a little bit. That’s just how it’s going to go."

Gus Frerotte and Mark Bulger jokingly bullied Fitzpatrick on 2006 #Rams. Told him he was running sprints too fast.

Fitzpatrick knew Bill Kollar in St. Louis and lived near him in Arizona. #Texans TE coach John Perry tried to recruit Fitz to Dartmouth.

Another reason #Texans are currently banking on Ryan Fitzpatrick: He had previous working relationships with seven of team's coaches. #NFL

Ryan Fitzpatrick consulted with 15-year, seven-team ex-pro before signing with #Texans. His mentor and close friend, Gus Frerotte. #NFL
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Cosell on Fitz: "We're not talking about a top-five starter. ... But O'Brien sees a guy he can mold with how he structures his offense."

Cossel said Bill O'Brien is "one of the best in the business" and could be a perfect fit for Fitzpatrick at this point in QB's career.

If #Texans define what Fitzpatrick is\isn't allowed to do, turnovers will be limited and new system will play to Fitzpatrick's strengths.

Greg Cossel said Ryan Fitzpatrick has potential to excel with Bill O'Brien, George Godsey in a smart offense that establishes "gray areas."

#NFL Films guru Greg Cossel believes #Texans' Ryan Fitzpatrick could be one of league's surprise QBs this season.
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Fitzpatrick is an equal opportunity dad. Watched "Frozen" several times with his daughters. #Texans

Ryan Fitzpatrick is big into superhero movies. Also a Legos fans. Saw the Lego movie "multiple times" with his kids. "I'm just a big kid."

#Texans' expected Week 1 starting QB wore an Avengers T-shirt and Transformers hat at same time this week. #Pro

Early positive words about QB Ryan Fitzpatrick from O'Brien. #Texans #NFL

#Texans have discussed with Fitzpatrick how he can limit turnovers this year. Previous systems, background, intelligence good fits for team
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Winding road leads Texans QB Fitzpatrick to big opportunity
By Brian T. Smith
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Texans wide receivers coach Stan Hixon was in Buffalo when Fitzpatrick started for the Bills. Special teams coach Bob Ligashesky was in St. Louis when Fitzpatrick was a rookie Ram. Secondary coach John Butler was at Harvard when Fitzpatrick wore crimson. Tight ends coach John Perry once tried to get Fitzpatrick to come to Dartmouth. Texans coaches Bill Kollar, Craig Fitzgerald and Sean Hayes also saw their life paths cross with Fitzpatrick's.
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"I was just looking at his staff, and there were so many people from my past. … I was just sitting there thinking, 'Man, I'm getting old,' " Fitzpatrick said.
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Quarterbacks coach George Godsey and O'Brien believe that if Fitzpatrick's turnovers are minimized and his strengths are accentuated, the Texans have the potential to "develop" a veteran, system-based quarterback. If the experiment works, Fitzpatrick will rely on running back Arian Foster, three tight ends, wide receivers Andre Johnson and DeAndre Hopkins, and a new emphasis on a slot receiver to win tight games.
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"It's about decision-making," O'Brien said. "Not forcing the ball and understanding that you have a really good back out of the backfield in Foster that you can always check it down to. … We believe in our system. But at the end of the day, Ryan, he needs to go out there and make good decisions and make sure he is doing what is best for the team."

To NFL Films senior producer Greg Cosell, Fitzpatrick could be the perfect answer for the 2014 Texans. The positives: good arm, high intelligence, legit experience, a natural feel for the position. The negatives: limited athleticism, occasionally frenetic in the pocket, random regrettable throws that can immediately turn games upside down.

Fitzpatrick never was and never will be confused for an elite starter. But if "gray areas" are removed, his assets are harnessed and his role is clearly defined - throw here and here, never there - a team searching since 2002 for a franchise quarterback could have an unexpected winner this season.

"A quarterback like Fitzpatrick can sometimes be exposed, which is why he's Ryan Fitzpatrick and not Tom Brady," Cosell said. "But for the most part, I think Bill sees a guy that he can really manipulate, in a positive sense, and control … and get the most out of him."...
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thunderkyss said:
First, which offense did Fitzpatrick play in that was similar?

Second... we paid Sage to come in to be the back up for $3M back in 2006. A $1.5M increase in nine seasons isn't crazy. Starters not on their rookie contract get $6 or more. Heck, the Vikings signed Sage to a two year $9M deal after trading a 4th round pick for him to back up Tavaris Jackson.


The Jets signed Vick to a one year $5M deal. What are their expectations of Michael Vick?
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TK, here is the post I was referring to on MB. It was post again here between your thread above and this one. Plus the TV comments I noted.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
To this day, I'm still trying to figure out Fitzpatrick's label as a "smart QB." Isn't that an oxymoron when you apply it to 10 years of playing catch with the wrong team?:foottap:
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Hey Doc! Even smart guys can look like they are playing for the other side; just look at the White House and current events. :chickendance:
 
badboy said:
Hey Doc! Even smart guys can look like they are playing for the other side; just look at the White House and current events. :chickendance:
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I have to concur with Doc.
Watching Fitz play for the Titans last year, smart is anything but.

If he plays at that level, Keenum gets the start by default.
Besides all the turnovers that appeared on the stats sheet, he averaged nearly two could-have-been Ints that were dropped by defenders per game, some under pressures, some not.

I would really hate to see these scenarios reoccur on game day with live bullets flying.
 
76Texan said:
I have to concur with Doc.
Watching Fitz play for the Titans last year, smart is anything but.

If he plays at that level, Keenum gets the start by default.
Besides all the turnovers that appeared on the stats sheet, he averaged nearly two could-have-been Ints that were dropped by defenders per game, some under pressures, some not.

I would really hate to see these scenarios reoccur on game day with live bullets flying.
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We lived thru Schaubs glorious entrance into NFL record books last season, at this point not much we as texans fans cant handle. :pop:
 
76Texan said:
I have to concur with Doc.
Watching Fitz play for the Titans last year, smart is anything but.

If he plays at that level, Keenum gets the start by default.
Besides all the turnovers that appeared on the stats sheet, he averaged nearly two could-have-been Ints that were dropped by defenders per game, some under pressures, some not.

I would really hate to see these scenarios reoccur on game day with live bullets flying.
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Thanks for input 76 as I said I have not watch Fitz play but hope as all do that OB can turn him into better than avg. Unless team is a repeat of last season, coaching gets a pass from me this season to work the players into system.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
To this day, I'm still trying to figure out Fitzpatrick's label as a "smart QB." Isn't that an oxymoron when you apply it to 10 years of playing catch with the wrong team?:foottap:
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Smart individual.

FitzMagic has a history of perplexingly bad decisions as a QB. Godsey's job is to exorcise the demons behind those head-scratching choices.

It's what my mentor first taught me about trading -- focus on minimizing your losses, the profits will take care of themselves.
 
Playoffs said:
Smart individual.

FitzMagic has a history of perplexingly bad decisions as a QB. Godsey's job is to exorcise the demons behind those head-scratching choices.

It's what my mentor first taught me about trading -- focus on minimizing your losses, the profits will take care of themselves.
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This is what I want to see this year, eliminating mistakes. This is the way i see O'Brien putting his staff, the vets and the rookies together. I want to see training the basics, then hustle and effort from players. I do not want to see "playing to stay close and hope to pull out a win in fourth quarter." Just eliminate mental errors and take it to the opponent. I prefer a run first, pound it offense and think this Oline and RBs will make me happy. If we are consistent, we will beat most teams and play good games against the better teams.
 
Playoffs said:
Winding road leads Texans QB Fitzpatrick to big opportunity
By Brian T. Smith
"If you had asked me 10 years ago, 'If you had a 10-year career, would you be happy with it?' I'd have said, 'Yeah,' " Fitzpatrick said. "But for me, I think there's a lot of unfinished business, in terms of things that I want to do and prove and things that I expect out of myself that I still haven't done."
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I'd love to have a 1-on-1 with him & ask him what it is he'd like to accomplish, what's been his biggest obstacle in the past, & how he plans on overcoming that obstacle in the future.
 
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thunderkyss said:
I'd love to have a 1-on-1 with him & ask him what it is he'd like to accomplish.........less INTs, what's been his biggest obstacle in the past........a D on the field, & how he plans on overcoming that obstacle in the future.......hand the ball off to anyone within hearing distance.
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Playoffs said:
Smart individual.

FitzMagic has a history of perplexingly bad decisions as a QB. Godsey's job is to exorcise the demons behind those head-scratching choices.

It's what my mentor first taught me about trading -- focus on minimizing your losses, the profits will take care of themselves.
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We need Tangina!!!!!!!


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CloakNNNdagger said:
How many QBs can you think of with such a long consistent history of poor TD to INT ratio that ever turned it around, no matter who the coach was?
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Late blossoming QBs after moving into better situations:

Jim plunkett
Mark bulger
Rich Gannon
Vinnie testeverde
Tommy Maddox
Steve young
Jeff George
Trent green


That is off the top of my head.
 
thunderkyss said:
Get this guy out of Houston...











:kitten:
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#Texans' expected Week 1 starting QB wore an Avengers T-shirt and Transformers hat at same time this week. #Pro
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Well now hold on there Hoss, before we run NerdBeard out of town on a rail, let us further investigate the nerdiness and make sure the punishment fits the crime...

If he wearing a Transformers Generation 1 hat...major swag

If he was wearing that craptastic childhood killer's giant, twisted up can openers, Michael Bay's version of Transformers hat...the send that summama biyatch out on the first thing smoking...
 
BullNation4Life said:
Well now hold on there Hoss, before we run NerdBeard out of town on a rail, let us further investigate the nerdiness and make sure the punishment fits the crime...

If he wearing a Transformers Generation 1 hat...major swag

If he was wearing that craptastic childhood killer's giant, twisted up can openers, Michael Bay's version of Transformers hat...the send that summama biyatch out on the first thing smoking...
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Captain America hat, Avenger's T... I'm good.

X-Men hat, Cyclops T... I can dig it.

Spiderman hat, Justice League T... cut that moth@R@$T, cut him deep.
 
Keenum or Yates cut before training camp?

Bill O’Brien Hints That He Will Only Bring 3 QBs To Training Camp
The four quarterbacks really are two quarterbacks vying for that third QB on the roster. Ryan Fitzpatrick, the 9 year veteran who signed with the Texans this season and Tom Savage, the 4th round pick from Pittsburgh are all but locked in for two of those spots. That leaves TJ Yates and Case Keenum as the two QBs battling for the final spot heading into training camp. But nothing is locked in yet.
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The most logical cut is Yates, IMO.

Beyond 2014, the only viable starting QB on the FA market is Alex Smith.

My thinking is that the starter in 2015 will either be Smith, Keenum, Savage, or a high draft pick.

It's best for the Texans that either Keenum or Savage can reach their potential.
Or they will either have to pay for Smith or to draft a QB high.
A mediocre or less than mediocre Fitz isn't going to solve anything.
Cutting him next year has no cap ramification.

Yates will be an UFA after this season.
The Texans will have to renegotiate his contract, which can cost between 700K to $1M.

Keenum is a RFA; his dollar amount will certainly be less than Yates in a team-favored contract.

Keenum already leapfrogged Yates.
There's very little chance than Yates can show all that much improvement in OTA that can wow the coaches; if so, we would have heard about it already.

It would be "news" if the Texans cut either Fitz or Savage.

So, if it is between Yates and Keenum, I really think it will be Yates.
Unless there's a trade in the work already, which is always possible.
 
76Texan said:
The most logical cut is Yates, IMO.

Beyond 2014, the only viable starting QB on the FA market is Alex Smith.

My thinking is that the starter in 2015 will either be Smith, Keenum, Savage, or a high draft pick.

It's best for the Texans that either Keenum or Savage can reach their potential.
Or they will either have to pay for Smith or to draft a QB high.
A mediocre or less than mediocre Fitz isn't going to solve anything.
Cutting him next year has no cap ramification.

Yates will be an UFA after this season.
The Texans will have to renegotiate his contract, which can cost between 700K to $1M.

Keenum is a RFA; his dollar amount will certainly be less than Yates in a team-favored contract.

Keenum already leapfrogged Yates.
There's very little chance than Yates can show all that much improvement in OTA that can wow the coaches; if so, we would have heard about it already.

It would be "news" if the Texans cut either Fitz or Savage.

So, if it is between Yates and Keenum, I really think it will be Yates.
Unless there's a trade in the work already, which is always possible.
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According to who? Link?

I've said Keenum would probably not make it to camp, so I reckon I'll stick with that opinion. Given his height (supposedly not prototypical for OB) and how bad he regressed game by game.
 
HOU-TEX said:
According to who? Link?

I've said Keenum would probably not make it to camp, so I reckon I'll stick with that opinion. Given his height (supposedly not prototypical for OB) and how bad he regressed game by game.
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Guess, I didn't make it clear.
Keenum leapfrogged Yates last year on the depth chart.

Certainly, this is a new coaching staff, but the game films are still there and Rick Smith is still there to answer questions.

Yates has to answer as to why he was passed up.
I mean, a 4-9 career TD to INT isn't going to help him.
His negative .7 and 1 AYA the last two years isn't going to help him.

In OTA, when there's no live bullets flying, he would have to impress a lot to counter the negative game films.

You're telling me that Keenum regressed.
What do you think Yates had been doing over the years?
 
76Texan said:
The most logical cut is Yates, IMO.

Beyond 2014, the only viable starting QB on the FA market is Alex Smith.

My thinking is that the starter in 2015 will either be Smith, Keenum, Savage, or a high draft pick.

It's best for the Texans that either Keenum or Savage can reach their potential.
Or they will either have to pay for Smith or to draft a QB high.
A mediocre or less than mediocre Fitz isn't going to solve anything.
Cutting him next year has no cap ramification.

Yates will be an UFA after this season.
The Texans will have to renegotiate his contract, which can cost between 700K to $1M.

Keenum is a RFA; his dollar amount will certainly be less than Yates in a team-favored contract.

Keenum already leapfrogged Yates.
There's very little chance than Yates can show all that much improvement in OTA that can wow the coaches; if so, we would have heard about it already.

It would be "news" if the Texans cut either Fitz or Savage.

So, if it is between Yates and Keenum, I really think it will be Yates.
Unless there's a trade in the work already, which is always possible.
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I know you are a Keenum fan and all but Keenum is on the outside looking in. New coach, new system, so throw last years depth chart out the window. Yates has the size and arm strength that OB is looking for while Keenum falls short (pun) in both areas.

Not to mention Keenum went 0-8 as a starter while Yates won in regular season leading us to a division win but also has a playoff win under his belt.
 
76Texan said:
Guess, I didn't make it clear.
Keenum leapfrogged Yates last year on the depth chart.

Certainly, this is a new coaching staff, but the game films are still there and Rick Smith is still there to answer questions.

Yates has to answer as to why he was passed up.
I mean, a 4-9 career TD to INT isn't going to help him.
His negative .7 and 1 AYA the last two years isn't going to help him.

In OTA, when there's no live bullets flying, he would have to impress a lot to counter the negative game films.

You're telling me that Keenum regressed.
What do you think Yates had been doing over the years?
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How much of Yates have we seen since 11? A quarter or two?

Imo, neither have shown they belong in the NFL. I don't think going from one "QB guru" to another's going to change that. Just my .02
 
HOU-TEX said:
How much of Yates have we seen since 11? A quarter or two?

Imo, neither have shown they belong in the NFL. I don't think going from one "QB guru" to another's going to change that. Just my .02
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And how many TD and how many INTS did he throw in that quarter or two?
 
I think Keenum is the odd man out. IMHO BOB likes tall QBs with strong arms that are smart and honestly I think Keenum strikes out on all three. He's short has a popgun arm and based on last seasons inability to pick the blitz up brings his football iq into question.


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TEXANRED said:
I know you are a Keenum fan and all but Keenum is on the outside looking in. New coach, new system, so throw last years depth chart out the window. Yates has the size and arm strength that OB is looking for while Keenum falls short (pun) in both areas.

Not to mention Keenum went 0-8 as a starter while Yates won in regular season leading us to a division win but also has a playoff win under his belt.
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How tall was Mcgloin at Penn St.?

Now if you just count win; sure, Yates should start over Fitz.

Yates has been in exactly one system from college to pro, that's the WCO.
He never ran a real no huddle; Keenum did.
He never ran an extensive spread; Fitz and Keenum did.

Sure, every body prefers a QB with size, but it's not everything.
Watch OB'S video on QB; listen to what he said about McGloin.

Yates never called his own play.
Keenum did.

I don't hate on Yates.
I don't hate any player (I just have dislike for prim - dona and the likes, which Yates is not.)

I just think Keenum is the better player.
I think he has a good shot of overtaking Fitz for the gig.
Can't say the same about Yates.
 
76Texan said:
How tall was Mcgloin at Penn St.?

Now if you just count win; sure, Yates should start over Fitz.

Yates has been in exactly one system from college to pro, that's the WCO.
He never ran a real no huddle; Keenum did.
He never ran an extensive spread; Fitz and Keenum did.

Sure, every body prefers a QB with size, but it's not everything.
Watch OB'S video on QB; listen to what he said about McGloin.

Yates never called his own play.
Keenum did.

I don't hate on Yates.
I don't hate any player (I just have dislike for prim - dona and the likes, which Yates is not.)

I just think Keenum is the better player.
I think he has a good shot of overtaking Fitz for the gig.
Can't say the same about Yates.
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Wasn't McGloin already there when OB showed up?

And I am not saying that size is everything, just saying that is what OB is looking for.

I am not even saying that Yates makes the team. What I am saying is if you put Yates and Keenum together, in the eyes of OB Keenum losses out.
 
BigBull said:
I think Keenum is the odd man out. IMHO BOB likes tall QBs with strong arms that are smart and honestly I think Keenum strikes out on all three. He's short has a popgun arm and based on last seasons inability to pick the blitz up brings his football iq into question.


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I don't know where you get the info from.

1. Arm.
Ourlads has record of QB ball velocity and Keenum doesn't have a weak arm.
It shows he has stronger arm then either Schaub or Yates.
There were plenty of game films that I had mentioned in my many posts on instances where he threw across his body, etc.

2. Blitz and pressure.
PFF has their own independent study, showing that Keenum was better than some names that command big paydays out there.
https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2014/06/05/qbs-in-focus-pressure-and-the-blitz/

In fact, he was doing this with a near to bottom pass pro (check the Keenum's thread for numbers from independent studies from SI and PFF), a decimated running game, poor ST, a D that gave up a ton of points, and against 5 top ten defensive teams against points allowed.

For a first - time starter, that is at least a very encouraging sign.
 
TEXANRED said:
Wasn't McGloin already there when OB showed up?

And I am not saying that size is everything, just saying that is what OB is looking for.

I am not even saying that Yates makes the team. What I am saying is if you put Yates and Keenum together, in the eyes of OB Keenum losses out.
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He (McGloin) was. Yes.
But OB had choices.
He did not try to keep guys with bigger size.
He allowed them (at least one) to transfer.

What I took from that video is that he wants a smart QB.

I think people read into his wanting a physical Oline, etc. And lump it into the QB position.
 
76Texan said:
I don't know where you get the info from.



1. Arm.

Ourlads has record of QB ball velocity and Keenum doesn't have a weak arm.

It shows he has stronger arm then either Schaub or Yates.

There were plenty of game films that I had mentioned in my many posts on instances where he threw across his body, etc.



2. Blitz and pressure.

PFF has their own independent study, showing that Keenum was better than some names that command big paydays out there.

https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2014/06/05/qbs-in-focus-pressure-and-the-blitz/



In fact, he was doing this with a near to bottom pass pro (check the Keenum's thread for numbers from independent studies from SI and PFF), a decimated running game, poor ST, a D that gave up a ton of points, and against 5 top ten defensive teams against points allowed.



For a first - time starter, that is at least a very encouraging sign.
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There is only one stat that Keenum is highly rated at that is record as a starter 0-8 even a blind squirrel finds a nut sometimes.
1. Arm isn't stronger than Yates maybe about the same. Eye test watched him and Yates at open practice and thought Yates had a stronger arm.
2. Eye test and actual game tape says he sucks at picking up the blitz. Unless running backwards and loosing lots of yards is good.



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BigBull said:
There is only one stat that Keenum is highly rated at that is record as a starter 0-8 even a blind squirrel finds a nut sometimes.
1. Arm isn't stronger than Yates maybe about the same. Eye test watched him and Yates at open practice and thought Yates had a stronger arm.
2. Eye test and actual game tape says he sucks at picking up the blitz. Unless running backwards and loosing lots of yards is good.



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Let's start with the records first.
So you're saying that a QB with a terrible first year record should be ditched, and not even considered for the backup job?

Well, there would have been many who never made it to the HOF let alone having a starting jobs in the NFL for years.
 
BigBull said:
There is only one stat that Keenum is highly rated at that is record as a starter 0-8 even a blind squirrel finds a nut sometimes.
1. Arm isn't stronger than Yates maybe about the same. Eye test watched him and Yates at open practice and thought Yates had a stronger arm.
2. Eye test and actual game tape says he sucks at picking up the blitz. Unless running backwards and loosing lots of yards is good.



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As far as eyes test, please remember practice is just that, practice.
You talked about game film, I've shown through different posts where and when Keenum made a certain throw that shows arm strength.
Can you do the same with Yates?

I would love to compare.

Thanks.
 
76Texan said:
Let's start with the records first.

So you're saying that a QB with a terrible first year record should be ditched, and not even considered for the backup job?



Well, there would have been many who never made it to the HOF let alone having a starting jobs in the NFL for years.
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No I'm just saying Kenuum isn't a very good QB and **** his pants when he got his chance. He didn't show enough to keep giving him chances. The reason he wasn't draft is he just not very good and honestly he'd be a good 3rd or a below average to average 2nd.


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BigBull said:
There is only one stat that Keenum is highly rated at that is record as a starter 0-8 even a blind squirrel finds a nut sometimes.
1. Arm isn't stronger than Yates maybe about the same. Eye test watched him and Yates at open practice and thought Yates had a stronger arm.
2. Eye test and actual game tape says he sucks at picking up the blitz. Unless running backwards and loosing lots of yards is good.



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As far as picking up the blitzes, I have already gone through them in the Keenum's thread as well.
If you disagree, as you said you have game tapes, let it be known there in that thread.
Shouldn't be too hard now, is it?
I mean, I had done a bunch of leg work already.
All you need to do is to tack on.
It's always good to have football discussions rather than eye tests.
 
BigBull said:
No I'm just saying Kenuum isn't a very good QB and **** his pants when he got his chance. He didn't show enough to keep giving him chances. The reason he wasn't draft is he just not very good and honestly he'd be a good 3rd or a below average to average 2nd.


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We can just stick to this for now.
If he can be either 2nd or 3rd, why would you want to cut him?
 
76Texan said:
As far as eyes test, please remember practice is just that, practice.

You talked about game film, I've shown through different posts where and when Keenum made a certain throw that shows arm strength.

Can you do the same with Yates?



I would love to compare.



Thanks.
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Okay he makes one or two good passes then takes 2 or 3 sacks for 10 or more yards each is just poor QB play and most of his bad sacks for big losses were his fault not the OLs fault.


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Texans will keep Yates over Keenum unless OB actually sees Keenum as the potential answer at QB for two reasons...

1. Yates walking in FA could net a compensatory pick next year.

2. Why keep a 3rd string QB that could cause a headache for the organization because of his local hero status? (It amuses me that some of the keenum fandom may actually cause him to be cut. That's a funny thought!)
 
BigBull said:
Okay he makes one or two good passes then takes 2 or 3 sacks for 10 or more yards each is just poor QB play and most of his bad sacks for big losses were his fault not the OLs fault.


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Keenum didnt help by holding onto the ball and trying to make stuff happen. But to many times last season the D had already blown through the line before keenum could even take his 3 step drop. So a lot of the sacks were on the line. Just watch the film.
 
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