Ryan Fitzpatrick visiting Texans (signs)

[bayoudreamn]

Bingo. I think they go with Bortles, as well, and sit him at the beginning of the season and start working him into games by the end.

Agreed. I think it's noteworthy that the coaches have been to ProDays for TB and BB this week and JM/JF is next week. I think that counts as some measure of "communication" from the team in what has been very quiet until now. So, some guesses can be made. I think this slightly nudges the likelihood of a QB pick with the 1st pick for Texans. Still not enough info. I am intrigued now on what we'd get out of a Schaub trade to the SlvrNBlk.

 

[JCTexan]

I don't think this signing gives any indication on what the Texans are going to do with the first pick. Fitzpatrick could be nothing more than a backup to Bortles/Bridgewater this year..

 

[powda]

I'm not so sure about that.

If Schaub is cut, he'll almost definitely go to the Browns and be re-united with Shanahan.

If the Raiders really want Schaub as much as people have been saying, the best chance they have to get him is to trade for him.

So it's not totally dead.

I think your assessment is fair...but im inclined to believe otherwise. Would you agree then that if a trade is still possible this signing lessened schaubs value?

We will not be going into the season with fitz and schaub and the raiders know it.

 

[Playoffs]

John McClain ‏@McClain_on_NFL

Ryan Fitzpatrick's 2014 cap figure is $3.37 mil. By my calculations Texans should be $6.3 million under cap.

Fitzpatrick gets 2 years, 7.5 mil, 4 million guaranteed.

 

[The Pencil Neck]

I think your assessment is fair...but im inclined to believe otherwise. Would you agree then that if a trade is still possible this signing lessened schaubs value?

We will not be going into the season with fitz and schaub and the raiders know it.

For Schaub's value to have been lessened, there had to be the threat that we were going to keep him and that he was going to be on the team next season. I'm firmly in the camp that never thought that was a serious possibility.

For me, all of Schaub's potential trade value has always been based on the leverage of playing the Browns against the Raiders never on the leverage of us keeping him.

So his value is the same as far as I'm concerned.

 

[TheMatrix31]

How much more cursed can the Houston Texans be, anyway?

 

[ObsiWan]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8SA0XFPZB4

Why I oughta...

 

[ObsiWan]

How much more cursed can the Houston Texans be, anyway?

Never challenge the universe.

 

[htownfan32]

obligatory

 

[Seegara]

Bingo. I think they go with Bortles, as well, and sit him at the beginning of the season and start working him into games by the end.

No, they're not going to sit him or even seat him. The new QB will start the 1st game and get OJT. Texans will draft a QB first. He will either be Bortles or a surprise. They will not take Bridgewater or Manziel.

 

[powda]

never on the leverage of us keeping him

And while I would agree that we weren't going to keep him...it's now concrete.

There isnt the slightest chance to bluff. Theyre betting against someones cards AND THEY SEE THEM. Do you really think schaub follows shanny or goes for the $?

Our only leverage now imo is "gives us a 7 or we cut him."

 

[Lucky]

The proverbial hand has been tipped.

With this signing (and the assumption that Schaub is gone one way or another), we could really be targeting a QB at 2-1 or 3-1 that we could groom while Fitz is starting.

The hand had been tipped by anyone watching a Texans game. They needed a young franchise QB. And really, you can't "target" a player at 2-1, much less 3-1. They can target a player with the 1st pick. Maybe they could trade down a few spots. But that's risky if you only like 1 QB.

This signing only surprises me that it was prior to Schaub being traded/cut. I guess Fitz had another offer and the Texans had to get the deal done. No matter, I had doubts that a deal could have been made anyway.

I see a lot of hating on Fitzpatrick, already. Why not give O'brien the benefit of the doubt that he knows what he's doing and at least see the guy in a Texans uni before completely panning the signing?

 

[CretorFrigg]

Here's Ryan Fitzpatrick's first NFL game: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8SA0XFPZB4

I've been watching Fitzpatrick since he's been playing at Harvard. He's a smart QB and certainly someone who can quickly learn OB's system. I like the signing.

 

[The Pencil Neck]

And really, you can't "target" a player at 2-1, much less 3-1. They can target a player with the 1st pick.

You can target a player at any freaking point in the draft you want. You have targeted players with almost every pick.

 

[bah007]

So the same people who were complaining about us not making any moves are now complaining about the moves we are making?...

 

[Lucky]

You can target a player at any freaking point in the draft you want. You have targeted players with almost every pick.

I don't think a team is going to plan how they will proceed at QB hoping a guy will be available in the 2nd round. We'll see in 7 weeks.

 

[Bulls on Parade]

Is Ryan Fitzpatrick an upgrade over T.J. Yates? If so then I like the move.

 

[The Pencil Neck]

I don't think a team is going to plan how they will proceed at QB hoping a guy will be available in the 2nd round. We'll see in 7 weeks.

They will if they don't see a guy at 1-1 worth the pick.

They might see a guy they like at 1-1. They may not.

 

[Carr Bombed]

Does Fitzpatrick bring with him a CURSE?


link



Now, message from Fitzpatrick to the Texans?

I'm not seeing the curse at all.. Bulger played his way out of a job. (See Schaub)

Palmer never recovered from his knee injury "fine" like the article says (he was never mentally the same), couldn't stay healthy, and threatened to retire in order to get out of Cincinnati. He flat out didn't want to play there any more.

Trent Edwards was always a hot steaming pile before Fitzpatrick ever came to town and the only reason why he became the Bills starter was because J.P. Losman was even a bigger hot steaming pile who couldn't stay healthy.

As far as Locker goes.. to suggest Fitzpatrick was a curse there is to also label Hasselbeck a curse as well, because just like Hasselbeck, the reason why Fitzpatrick started was because Jake Locker is made of glass and can never stay healthy.

So Ryan Fitzpatrick isn't a curse.. He's just always played on a team that didn't have a franchise QB who could lock up the position or played with a QB (Palmer) who was disgruntled and no longer wanted to play for the franchise. Ryan Fitzpatrick is what he's always been.. A journeyman back up QB and I don't think Houston is expecting him to be anything more than that.

 

[Texian]

why would you say that? Think Raiders will just wait until he is cut? That would be a big risk, if Schaub decides to go elsewhere like Cleveland...

you may be right though...

And while I would agree that we weren't going to keep him...it's now concrete.

There isnt the slightest chance to bluff. Theyre betting against someones cards AND THEY SEE THEM. Do you really think schaub follows shanny or goes for the $?

Our only leverage now imo is "gives us a 7 or we cut him."

IMHO I believe Schaub's agent has already been in touch with every team interested in a starting QB and has gauged the interest and signing dollars if Matt is not traded. And Schaub signs with the team with the most $$$.

 

[Texian]

Fitzpatrick??? Hmmm....is Bill O'Brien, Josh McDaniels? Hmmm...is the Texans plan to have the #1 draft pick two years in a row? Hmmm...

 

[bayoudreamn]

And while I would agree that we weren't going to keep him...it's now concrete.

There isnt the slightest chance to bluff. Theyre betting against someones cards AND THEY SEE THEM. Do you really think schaub follows shanny or goes for the $?

Our only leverage now imo is "gives us a 7 or we cut him."

If I were Matt Schaub, late in my career with an opportunity to go to a team in an offense I know versus an unfamiliar offense on a bad team, I'd likely go with the sure thing. Sometimes looking at the money up front isn't smart. It's not like the biggest contract is guaranteed to pay the most. Think about that.

 

[CloakNNNdagger]

I'm not seeing the curse at all.. Bulger played his way out of a job. (See Schaub)

Palmer never recovered from his knee injury "fine" like the article says (he was never mentally the same), couldn't stay healthy, and threatened to retire in order to get out of Cincinnati. He flat out didn't want to play there any more.

Trent Edwards was always a hot steaming pile before Fitzpatrick ever came to town and the only reason why he became the Bills starter was because J.P. Losman was even a bigger hot steaming pile who couldn't stay healthy.

As far as Locker goes.. to suggest Fitzpatrick was a curse there is to also label Hasselbeck a curse as well, because just like Hasselbeck, the reason why Fitzpatrick started was because Jake Locker is made of glass and can never stay healthy.

So Ryan Fitzpatrick isn't a curse.. He's just always played on a team that didn't have a franchise QB who could lock up the position or played with a QB (Palmer) who was disgruntled and no longer wanted to play for the franchise. Ryan Fitzpatrick is what he's always been.. A journeyman back QB and I don't think Houston is expecting him to be anything more than that.

Whether you call it a curse or not, it is interesting that those playing ahead of him never enjoyed any long term success.

 

[Hottoddie]

I like this signing. Fitz is better than any QB we have on the roster now, if we assume Schaub is gone.

If Oakland trades for Schaub I would think they'll give us a 2nd or, more likely, a 3rd. If Rick is any kind of a GM he should be able to leverage Cleveland's interest to force a decent offer from Oakland. From everything I've read, Oakland really wants Schaub. I wouldn't be surprised to find out that Schaub's agent is working on a revamped 2 year contract with Oakland that would include a fair amount of guaranteed money/bonus.

 

[Texan_Bill]

Well, at least he won't kick our ass again.... Rams 33-27 OT win in which, BTW the Texans were up big (24-3 Texans at half)

Addition by subtraction. ;D

 

[Goldensilence]

Not an Earth shattering signing, but as speculated the Texans would sign a veteran qb. I don't think it necessarily makes them a shoe in for QB 1.1. In fact I'd say it opens up options. However, there's no way around it, you need a legit QB to win consistently in the NFL. Fitz isn't anything more than a capable stop gap starter.

If it was up to ME, take the best you figure Bortles and Bridgewater then run with them.

 

[houstonhurricane]

I like this signing. Fitz is better than any QB we have on the roster now, if we assume Schaub is gone.

If Oakland trades for Schaub I would think they'll give us a 2nd or, more likely, a 3rd. If Rick is any kind of a GM he should be able to leverage Cleveland's interest to force a decent offer from Oakland. From everything I've read, Oakland really wants Schaub. I wouldn't be surprised to find out that Schaub's agent is working on a revamped 2 year contract with Oakland that would include a fair amount of guaranteed money/bonus.

If Smith gets a second or third for Schaub he will already be deserving of GM of the year...

 

[Playoffs]

Appears that OB got to see Fitzpatrick start 6 games against the Patriots in his time there.

If Smith gets a second or third for Schaub he will already be deserving of GM of the year...

of the decade!

 

[Playoffs]

John McClain ‏@McClain_on_NFL

Fitzpatrick on his role "We'll see how that plays over the offseason Coach O'Brien and I have similar views and beliefs about (offense)."

Fitzpatrick "I want 2 show how hard I work. That's the same approach I've had for 9 years. I like to be dependable. I'm in a good situation."

Fitpatrick "I hoped to finish my contract with Titans. You never want to get kicked to the curb, so to speak, but this is a great opportunity."

Ryan Fitzpatrick "I met with coach O'Brien, and I like what he's going to do with the offense and the direction (Texans) are going."

Mark Berman ‏@MarkBermanFox26

"The way that (Bill O'Brien) thinks about the game, it was a really impressive thing that I felt like I meshed well with."

"Being exposed to so many situations in my career,being able to lean on that is something that will continue to help me in my career"

Texans QB Ryan Fitzpatrick:"It seems like it's going 2 be a pretty special place & (Bill O'Brien) is going to be a special guy to play for"

 

[thunderkyss]

I'm not seeing the curse at all..

It was a joke.

 

[CloakNNNdagger]

If Smith gets a second or third for Schaub he will already be deserving of GM of the year...

.....more like McKenzie deserving of the GoMer of the year.........

 

[Lucky]

Well, at least he won't kick our ass again.... Rams 33-27 OT win in which, BTW the Texans were up big (24-3 Texans at half)

Fitz's 1st games as a pro, and it might have been his best ever.

 

[DocBar]

Meh. Schaub is gone. Hopefully, we get something for him. If not, so be it.

 

[kiwitexansfan]

Haven't read the thread, but it seems only fitting that the team that gave him a career finally employs.

Can't wait for the Pickspatrick jokes to begin.

 

[CloakNNNdagger]

What can be said for Fitzpatrick is that he is indeed durable.........in his entire career, he has ended up on the injury list only 4 times!

 

[Playoffs]

Texans land quarterback Ryan Fitzpatrick

Lance Zierlein ‏@LanceZierlein

With Fitzpatrick signing with the Texans, I guess we can finally stop the "Schaub may be coming back!" fear mongering, right?

I am Mclovin ‏@dabearmc

@LanceZierlein Isn't Fitzpatrick Irish for "Schaub"?

 

[Dutchrudder]

John McClain ‏@McClain_on_NFL

Ryan Fitzpatrick's 2014 cap figure is $3.37 mil. By my calculations Texans should be $6.3 million under cap.

Fitzpatrick gets 2 years, 7.5 mil, 4 million guaranteed.

That is a terrible contract. Why the hell would we give 4m to Fitzpatrick? What does he do that nobody else at vet minimum can do?

 

[EVOLVIST]

Can't wait for the Pickspatrick jokes to begin.

Not unless Fitz sees the field, because I don't expect he will unless something dire happens. This is merely the obligatory veteran-on-the-roster move after the Texans lost out on McGowen the week before.

All this means is that the keeping Matt Schuab threads can be closed for good.

 

[Carr Bombed]

Whether you call it a curse or not, it is interesting that those playing ahead of him never enjoyed any long term success.

That's because they either sucked or couldn't stay healthy (some had both issues) to begin with.. In almost every case they had that problem well before Fitzpatrick came to town. It's not because Fitz put some curse on them. He's just another "Jon Kitna" type journeyman QB.

 

[beerlover]

That is a terrible contract. Why the hell would we give 4m to Fitzpatrick? What does he do that nobody else at vet minimum can do?

O'Brian plans to start him. Draft & develop somebody but not from 1st rd. If I remember correctly he can throw a decent deep ball. I don't know, its been a strange, strange year

 

[EVOLVIST]

That is a terrible contract. Why the hell would we give 4m to Fitzpatrick? What does he do that nobody else at vet minimum can do?

And this is the REAL question we should be asking ourselves!

I had to meet Rick Smith in person before I became convinced that he wasn't my wife, with all this frivolous spending, time and time again.

 

[TexanSam]

If I were to guess I think this means Fitzpatrick is the starter for a year or two and Clowney is chosen with the #1 pick. Meanwhile, they either draft a QB in the 2nd-4th to groom as Fitzpatrick's replacement or pick someone in 2015. I'm okay with that I think. Watt and Clowney on the d-line would be scary good.

 

[Nawzer]

This is great news indeed! Another nail in the coffin for Matt Schaub's tenure as a Houston Texan! Woooo!!!!

 

[DX-TEX]

This is great news indeed! Another nail in the coffin for Matt Schaub's tenure as a Houston Texans! Woooo!!!!

Just wish they wouldn't drag it out. I know....."reasons"...upcoming draft, don't show cards, yadda yadda yadda....

But its killing me.

 

[thunderkyss]

If I were to guess I think this means Fitzpatrick is the starter for a year or two and Clowney is chosen with the #1 pick. Meanwhile, they either draft a QB in the 2nd-4th to groom as Fitzpatrick's replacement or pick someone in 2015. I'm okay with that I think. Watt and Clowney on the d-line would be scary good.

I'm thinking he's one more starting QB for Keenum to beat out of a job. He already took Schaub's job, taking it from a second veteran QB will legitimize him as the one true Texans starter.

 

[DX-TEX]

I'm thinking he's one more starting QB for Keenum to beat out of a job. He already took Schaub's job, taking it from a second veteran QB will legitimize him as the one true Texans starter.

Bill O'Brien is the Highlander?

 

[AcresHomesTexan]

And this is the REAL question we should be asking ourselves!

I had to meet Rick Smith in person before I became convinced that he wasn't my wife, with all this frivolous spending, time and time again.

he got less than Cassell or Henne to perform the same role and about the same as Charlie Whitehurst who is closer to a pure back-up than he is???

 

[kiwitexansfan]

O'Brian plans to start him. Draft & develop somebody but not from 1st rd. If I remember correctly he can throw a decent deep ball. I don't know, its been a strange, strange year

I think this is it.

Smart QB to pick up the system well, knows he isn't the long term answer so will be comfortable bringing someone along.

 

[Texan_Bill]

Fitz's 1st games as a pro, and it might have been his best ever.

Yessir. It was in fact his first game as a pro... Certainly it was his best EVER!!

That said, it stung a lot, but didn't he beat the Texans as a Buffalo Bill also?

I dunno man, I'm shootin' from the hip.

 

[texan_joe]

Assuming Schaub is not gonna be on the roster, Fitzpatrick will be the best QB on the roster. I would love for them to take Bridgewater, but I think the #1 spot is Clowney's to lose. I think as an organization the Texas pretty much know next season is a transition year and they'll take a QB next season, be it Winston, Mariota, Hundley or whoever.
If they don't take Bridgewater, the only other quarterback I would like to see them take a run at is Aaron Murray in the 3rd.