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RUMOR...Carr to be traded to Dolphins???

I would hate to see Carr w/ another team. I just think it's something that could come back to bite us later. Hopefully the offense improves TREMENDOUSLY during the offseason, Carr can shake off the horror of being sacked so many times and get it together.
 
I think everyone should chill out and give Carr a few more seasons. Kinda hard for ANY NFL quarterback to live up to his potential from his back.
 
Big B Texan Fan said:
How's the weather in San Antonio?
Are the locals wanting us to pick Young or Bush?
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The locals in San Antonio could give 2 craps about the Texans, or who they draft. They are probably wanting the Aints to draft VY, so Benson can move the team there. That's not looking like it's going to happen. Benson comitted next year to New Orleans today. I have been in SA for the last 7 years, just moved to D/FW tlast year. They are DIE HARD Cowgirl fans down there, just like the *****s up here. I am a native Houstonian for 22 years though.
 
heck 2 1st rounders plus Rickey.... I'd jump at that

I like Carr and hope he stays, but I honestly feel the beating he has taken the last few years has taken it's toll.. Unless we get the early '90's cowboy offensive line.. I am not sure if he will ever feel comfortable in the pocket
 
clutchcityin210 said:
I wouldnt give them Tony Banks for Ricky Williams.............
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Look I know this trade isn't going to go down, but in some alter universe if I was able to swing a trade involving Tony Banks for Ricky it would be a no brainer. If Ricky helped us to 4 extra wins that would be more value than Banks has given us in 4 years.

The Dolphins have him by the balls and so will any other team that gets him, He has to play out his contract, because he basicly is in debt. Also towards the end of the season he has turned into the Ricky of old.

Ricky suffers from social anxiety disorder. He never wanted to be the face of a franchise (do you remember his NO interviews where he wouldn't take his helmet off) and after meeting Earl he never wanted to be the workhorse that got beat into the ground. Those are two things he WAS in Miami, thats the real reason he ran from the game.

Since the Dolphins have drafted Ronnie and he returned, his teamates have said Ricky is having the best time in his career, because he is just a part of the team and not the whole team, they say he is having fun and enjoying football again and his teamates say he is always smiling.

Even though Ricky has made mistakes in his career he has never been a selfish or bad person. He is really misunderstood
 
I realize Brees is hurt now, but why would the Dolphins (rumored) to give up so much for Carr when they could go for Rivers and try to pry him out of S.D.?
 
All this talk about Carr sucking and we need to trade him is stupid! The real question here is this "How good is Carr?" Answer: Who knows!!! He hasn't had an offensive line to protect him long enough to allow him to take the 5th step in his 5-step drop and pick a secondary apart, or had a coach help him in his development. With our luck, he'd get traded and end up a superbowl winner and NFL MVP the following year, all because we didn't know that he is actually was a pretty good QB when given the proper tools. Don't get me wrong, I like Young, but let's face it, we have a diamond in the rough with Carr! Bottom Line: We need to build, not rebuild------Reggie Bush #1 :ok:
 
Why oh why would we trade for I need another hit Ricky . Do we not have enough issues.Miami should pay us to take him off their hands with no trade. Miami would probably still be getting the best deal. He has no heart.
NEXT!!!!
 
zeplin said:
Why oh why would we trade for I need another hit Ricky . Do we not have enough issues.Miami should pay us to take him off their hands with no trade. Miami would probably still be getting the best deal. He has no heart.
NEXT!!!!
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Actually, I don't think they want to trade him. The Dolphins, his teamates, and Nick Saben are more than happy to see him return and probably won't even put him on the block. A backfield with R. Williams and R. Brown is arguably the best backfield if the league, come to think of it I can't think of one better (even if we get Bush) and one of the big reasons why the Dolphins will be going to the playoffs next year.

As far as you saying he has no heart do you know him personally. I love how people like to trash players and throw them by the side when the screw up, like they're not human and don't make mistakes.
 
thunderkyss said:
We'd basically be trading Reggie Bush for Ricky Williams. We'll get Young, and a RB that is proven.... sounds like everyone should be happy. Well, if it weren't for Ricky's psyche.... I mean Ricky would be closer to Austin, which I here is where he'd like to be...

If only there were a way we could be sure he won't stiff us like he did the Dolphins.... Surely it would be a big gamble, I don't think Casserly has the 'nads.

But then again, what if he does stiff us.... we'd be fine at RB, but it would basically mean we gave Carr away for a 3rd round pick...... I don't know about that.
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how much value would you exoect to get out of Carr. 3rd round pick isn't that far away
 
Carr Bomb said:
Actually, I don't think they want to trade him. The Dolphins, his teamates, and Nick Saben are more than happy to see him return and probably won't even put him on the block. A backfield with R. Williams and R. Brown is arguably the best backfield if the league, come to think of it I can't think of one better (even if we get Bush) and one of the big reasons why the Dolphins will be going to the playoffs next year.

As far as you saying he has no heart do you know him personally. I love how people like to trash players and throw them by the side when the screw up, like they're not human and don't make mistakes.
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Please he walked out on his teammates.Thats a pretty big mistake. Why is he back in Miami, because of one reason and it is not loyalty.
 
zeplin said:
Please he walked out on his teammates.Thats a pretty big mistake. Why is he back in Miami, because of one reason and it is not loyalty.
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Open your eyes, He didn't walk away from millions to smoke marijuana. You obviously don't understand his disorder, I suggest you look it up and read about it. He wasn't comfortable being the franchise. He met with Earl and it messed him up in the head when he saw how crippled Earl was. Go back and look at Ricky's carries and compare them to Earl's. Ricky couldn't stand football anymore and he didn't want to be in front of the camera. There was a lot more deeper issues than just smoking marijuana. People that have known him said he failed those tests on purpose, because he wanted a way out. Your right he isn't back in Miami for loyalty, which is why I said the dolphins have him by the balls, but since he has come back and since he has someone to split carries with and isn't the feature back and isnt the franchise and doesn't have cameras shoved up his.....Which is what he always wanted, he is very happy now and content. Like I said Ricky is a very complex and a misunderstood guy.
 
ok i was listening to the radio on the way home from work this evening and i heard this scenario, i tuned in a little late and i'm not sure if it was a rumor or just a fans wish. anyways, the trade was the dolphins trade ricky williams and the texans trade carr and a 3rd rounder and with the first pick the texans take a qb. what are your thoughts. personally me, i'm against it, ricky williams is about 2 years from declining so overall nothing would really change in the long run accept for having a different qb.
 
The radio reported 1st rounder in 2007, yet I previously read this rumor some time ago and I recall it saying a 3rd rounder. Appparently Ricky is dirt cheap which is part of it. Its going to be rumor city for a while, but this one has the momentum at the moment...
 
mexican_texan said:
I checked out a Fins forum and 52% of the members wouldn't trade Ricky for David Carr straight up, w/no draft picks.
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They won 5 games in a row at the end of the year with their scrub. Why the heck would they want an unlovable loser?
 
Carr Bomb said:
Open your eyes, He didn't walk away from millions to smoke marijuana. You obviously don't understand his disorder, I suggest you look it up and read about it. He wasn't comfortable being the franchise. He met with Earl and it messed him up in the head when he saw how crippled Earl was. Go back and look at Ricky's carries and compare them to Earl's. Ricky couldn't stand football anymore and he didn't want to be in front of the camera. There was a lot more deeper issues than just smoking marijuana. People that have known him said he failed those tests on purpose, because he wanted a way out. Your right he isn't back in Miami for loyalty, which is why I said the dolphins have him by the balls, but since he has come back and since he has someone to split carries with and isn't the feature back and isnt the franchise and doesn't have cameras shoved up his.....Which is what he always wanted, he is very happy now and content. Like I said Ricky is a very complex and a misunderstood guy.
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Show me an NFL running back whose normal. They don't exist. It's a job for masochists like Clinton Portis. He gets off on being tackled (LOL). A lot of em are like him, they just don't express it the same way. Ricky Williams is kinda like that (LOL).

People who get off on being disabled become running backs. I mean really, who in their right mind....different strokes for different folks. Running back isn't a position for pretty boys (Reggie Bush). They tend to get uppity about having their bodies destroyed. They tend to have attitudes. Give me some lunch pail guy (like DD or this guy Foster with Carolina) over a pretty boy any day at the position.

For guys like Reggie, it's all fun and games until the competition catches up with them. The NFL is a man's league (LOL again).
 
Big B Texan Fan said:
Publix is the store for groceries. Don't know about supercuts. They do have Kenny Rogers Rotisserie Chicken though.
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Like I have been telling you along Gus Ferrote will be traded for Carr, and ferrote will lead the texans to the promise land like he did the redskins and dolphins.:redtowel:
 
Not that I agree with this but if Miami wanted to move up to secure a QB, it is going to cost a lot!!! For sake of running with this rumor, the only way I do this trade is:
1. Swap 1st round picks.
2. We get Ricky Williams and their 2nd and 6th round picks this year.
3. Based on Ricky's performance, this will determine if next years pick is a Rd.1 or a Rd.2 and Rd.5 next year.
4. That's the cost for getting a future franchise QB. Remember, Miami needs a QB more than we need RW.
5. If we did this trade, no doubt we have two RB's going on the market.

I would prefer to let Miami roll the dice on a Rookie QB, before I would give up on Carr.
 
Hervoyel said:
The VY crowd want it to be true so they keep it alive.
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I've gotta agree here, I really don't see how bringing Ricky Williams's current abilities here and shipping off our QB is going to help this team.
 
MorKnolle said:
I've gotta agree here, I really don't see how bringing Ricky Williams's current abilities here and shipping off our QB is going to help this team.
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Agreed! Do we really need a blunt smoking quitter like RW? I think not!!!
 
Has anybody else read anywhere the proposal that Carr might be traded to the Dolphins for Ricky Williams and a third round pick? I dont honestly think it is worth it, i mean a drug addict lets be honest or Vince Young or Reggie Bush. Either of the later two will do for me. If we get Vince let him back up for a year and then see what to do!
 
Not likely to happen. The Texans would have to take the cap hit on Carr in order to trade him...and that's not going to happen.
 
tjwhite123 said:
Has anybody else read anywhere the proposal that Carr might be traded to the Dolphins for Ricky Williams and a third round pick? I dont honestly think it is worth it, i mean a drug addict lets be honest or Vince Young or Reggie Bush. Either of the later two will do for me. If we get Vince let him back up for a year and then see what to do!
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Its been posted on the board about a week ago...if not longer already. Might want to check to see if the topic is already out...moderators hate threads that are posted repeatedly.
 
Ricky Williams had his 15 minutes of fame. If he's going to be a star again, let him do it in Miami. Who knows when he'll decide to run off again.
 
texanmojo.com said:
Not likely to happen. The Texans would have to take the cap hit on Carr in order to trade him...and that's not going to happen.
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What cap hit??? New CBA hasnt been signed....:)

But I agree withcha...
 
I Highly Doubt Mcnair Is Going To Give Up David Carr A Class Act For Some Ex Drug Addict Who Sits In A Tent In Another Country And Smokes Hash, You Might As Well Say The Texans Are Going Out To Get Terrell Owens To Make The Deal Better, Get Real And Post Something Worth Reading
 
The Longhorn in me wants to believe it's true, but I think this is just a fan rumor that somehow bubbled up to a couple of NFL sites.
 
The Rockets are going after Ron Artest did you ever see that coming?
Don't be so quick to brush off this RW trade and get off Carr's J@@k
 
Straightshooter said:
RUMORS FLY OF CARR-FOR-RICKY TRADE



On Monday, we surmised that the Texans have floated the notion that they intend to select USC tailback Reggie Bush with the No. 1 pick in the draft in order to avoid criticism from the Longhorns lovers that the lure of playing for his hometown Texans prompted Texas quarterback Vince Young to skip his senior season. (A reader also raised with us another solid possibility -- that the report was a trial balloon aimed at determining what the local reaction would be to not taking Young -- and we're told that the local reaction was decidedly negative.)



But the Bush report also might have been intended to throw potential focus off of rumors that are now emerging -- and these are rumors only -- of a looming trade between the Texans and Dolphins.



Under the deal, as we've heard it, the Texans would send quarterback David Carr to Miami for running back Ricky Williams (a former Longhorn) and a third-round draft pick.



Williams is under contract through 2007. Carr is due to receive an $8 million option bonus in February, which would extend his contract through 2008.



Again, these are rumors only -- and we're not suggesting that this trade will go down. But if it should happen it clears the way for the Texans to select Young.



Stay tuned.

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From profootballtalk.com so take with a huge grain of salt. Dont shoot the thread starter.:redtowel:
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You'll really like Mel Gibson's "Conspiracy Theory."
 
So, here was something that I just picked up on....not sure if a thread has been posted on this topic yet but....

There was a rumor circulating that Miami would be highly interested in trading for David Carr.....

primary trade bait?

Ricky Williams.


That would give Houston a SERIOUSLY dangerous 1-2-3 running threat with Dominack Davis, Ricky and Vince....

OR

For the Vince haters....

Leinhart drafted 1st over AND you still get Ricky Williams....

This wouldn't make me a "Texan's" fan but, I'd at least not change the channel when the Texans are playing.

I'll say it again. Drafting Vince Young is less about a smart "football" decision and more about a smart "Business" decision. I'd watch Vince over Bledsoe. ;)
 
Take your backhanded fandom elsewhere, you Cowgirls stoolie. :challenge

And this has been posted about once every day on here for the last two weeks. The reason it keeps slipping to the bottom is because no one puts any credit in it, and it got old talking about it. Just FYI.
 
Glacier said:
I'll say it again. Drafting Vince Young is less about a smart "football" decision and more about a smart "Business" decision. I'd watch Vince over Bledsoe. ;)
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I'm glad to see a VY fan admit that drafting him is more of a good business decision rather than a good football decision, and luckily for the rest of us good teams are built on making wise football decisions and not drafting someone just to sell a few more jerseys.
 
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