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Ruben Droughns
- Thread starter edo783
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Actually, I would not mind him, but I think the Broncos are still asking too much for him.
bayshorebevo
Waterboy
denver's rb's always run for a million yards. is it the guy or the system?
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I feel the same way. The OL and DL are way bigger needs at this moment. DD is the starter so if we are going to bring someone in to compliment him or challenge him its going to be a back aquired through the draft, probably with one of our 3rd round picks. People forget this is the deepest draft in recent memory for rbs.
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I seriously doubt we can get devenport for just a 4th round pick
PapaL
Loose Screw
He's a RFA, thats the price for compensation.
P.King (SI.com)
2. I think, still -- and I truly don't mean to harp on Green Bay restricted free agent running back Najeh Davenport (I have written in this space that teams are crazy for not signing Davenport to an offer sheet which, if not matched by the Packers, would cost the signing team only a fourth-round pick as compensation), but a personnel man who I respect a lot pulled me aside last night and said: "I've been reading what you wrote about Najeh Davenport, and I agree. Hasn't anyone out there seen this guy play? You're telling me Arizona, with all their cap room, couldn't write an offer sheet the Packers wouldn't match. They'd have their running back of the future and it wouldn't even cost them a first-day draft choice?'' Davenport is probably out another two months after some clean-up shoulder surgery two weeks ago, but it's not anything that will prevent him from being ready for the season.
P.King (SI.com)
2. I think, still -- and I truly don't mean to harp on Green Bay restricted free agent running back Najeh Davenport (I have written in this space that teams are crazy for not signing Davenport to an offer sheet which, if not matched by the Packers, would cost the signing team only a fourth-round pick as compensation), but a personnel man who I respect a lot pulled me aside last night and said: "I've been reading what you wrote about Najeh Davenport, and I agree. Hasn't anyone out there seen this guy play? You're telling me Arizona, with all their cap room, couldn't write an offer sheet the Packers wouldn't match. They'd have their running back of the future and it wouldn't even cost them a first-day draft choice?'' Davenport is probably out another two months after some clean-up shoulder surgery two weeks ago, but it's not anything that will prevent him from being ready for the season.
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The packers would defintely match any offer we would be willing to spend on that position at this time. Its not like were in dire need right now.
PapaL
Loose Screw
I think the point of all these convos about other RB's is that there are other options out there. DD isn't terrible, but he's no Barry Sanders either. Don't get me wrong I like what hes brought, just think we could always do better. Attemtping to sign Najeh would be no different than the Pace situation we just went through, minus a few million and 3 rounds later. The contract could be made so that GB couldn't match it, signing bonus, front loaded, etc...
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We wouldn't be able to sign that kind of contract either. That wouldn't be wise for the cap and we've already spent more than I expected this year on payne and greenwood, plus we still have to sign our draft picks. As far as premier free agents go, I think were done this offseason. Now its off to the draft.
Tailgate
Fall of Hame
LCROD said:
Nobody is a Barry Sanders...but I do see what you are trying to say. I just think it would take a pretty darn good running back to dethrone a healthy DD. (BTW.. ALOT of running backs have been getting hurt lately). And I was very happy with the way Wells came along as a back up last year. So I am content with what we have at this point.... and would just rather pursue other interests.
we are a rush happy team.. and the only RB we have that can be depended on for an entire season, is Jonathen Wells. Thats not good.
DD COULD become our franchise RB.. but it depends on how good our oline gets.. and how much tougher he can get.
I do not think that any FAs available would be an upgrade over DD at this point. I think after LaMont Jordan was signed by the Raiders.. there were no more star RBs available.
However.. DD is not a 100% lock at RB, and Hollings is on his way out the door. That leaves just DD and Wells.. and we could use another RB to compete for the starting job or provide depth. So if we cant get Benson at #13, Shelton looks good to me in the 3rd if he is there.
DD COULD become our franchise RB.. but it depends on how good our oline gets.. and how much tougher he can get.
I do not think that any FAs available would be an upgrade over DD at this point. I think after LaMont Jordan was signed by the Raiders.. there were no more star RBs available.
However.. DD is not a 100% lock at RB, and Hollings is on his way out the door. That leaves just DD and Wells.. and we could use another RB to compete for the starting job or provide depth. So if we cant get Benson at #13, Shelton looks good to me in the 3rd if he is there.
Bellthebest
Practice Squad
edo783 said:
TAKE HIM PLEASE!!!! Alll he wants is a starting job and hes not gunna get it with tatum bell here!!!!!!
Tailgate
Fall of Hame
Bellthebest said:
Just not going to happen.
Question... why are you so eager to get rid of him? Is he a distraction to Bell, etc? Or do you already have a great back up? Better than our Wells?
Because... I think Droughns would only be a back up here to DD as well....and that basically puts us in the same spot as you are now with him. Just rationalizing.
PapaL
Loose Screw
How couldn't we sign him to a front loaded contract, i.e. pay more upfront and min. sal. after that, but could pull $52+M for Pace? Not saying both players are on the same level or anything, but seems like money is coming up. Someone mentioned Shelton in the 3rd round, why not Najeh in the 4th? Granted salary wouldn't be what you pay a 4th round pick, but then again Shelton in the 3rd could turn into Ron Dayne. IMO its a good risk.
vtech9
All Pro
Ruben would only be a back-up here. He is in the same mold as Wells, but IMHO, he is a big upgrade on Wells. I like the way Ruben finishes his runs and overall runs with desire. I'm not as high on Najeh as the rest of you seem to be. I think Rubens ability and desire to break tackles makes him a better option in our offense. If we had a better Oline that would give the RB good holes to run through Najeh would probably be a better option. But that's just my opinion. Also, IMHO, we won't got after either one.Bellthebest said:
Bellthebest
Practice Squad
no... i just want trade value and i dont want him complaining the whole time!!!
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Porky said:I wouldn't want Davenport on my team at any price. Any guy that would hide in a girl's closet all night, and take a dump while staring at her sleeping is not my idea of a stable or high charcter individual.
What! I haven't heard of this, is this true. When did this happen?!
PapaL
Loose Screw
As reported by the Miami Herald
Miami Herald
Don't what happened following that incident.
As reported by SI
SI
Miami Herald
Don't what happened following that incident.
As reported by SI
SI
Carr Bomb said:
I am a DD fan, but I do like the idea of someone splitting the load. I like Wells, but not sure how he ended 04 will indicate his 2005. If DJ & Spears are gone @ 13 & Benson there, I'd like him. I can see Davis' productivity even better with diminished (not 3rd down only) role. I think we will see a selection at 3rd or 4th round.
TexansNeedRBin05
Waterboy
Carr Bomb said:
WE ARE IN DIRE NEED! Davenport would be great! Cheap and he would be a real good back for us for years to come!
ThaShark316
#28
Grid said:
I was with you G, til you said Jordan was a star....
TexansNeedRBin05 said:
LMAO @ we are in dire need...*will not feed the troll*
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I don't care how great davenport would be I don't care if he is the second comming of jim brown, if he did what is reported, I don't want him anywhere near my team. It takes some serious mental problems to do something like that.
TexansNeedRBin05
Waterboy
First of yall very offended being called a troll!
Now is 100% sure thing he did it? Jw maybe its just a rumor....?
Carr Bomb said:
Now is 100% sure thing he did it? Jw maybe its just a rumor....?
TexansNeedRBin05
Waterboy
Tailgate said:
DONT MAKE ME LAUGH DROUGHNS WOULD PUT DAVIS SO FAR BACK ON THE BENCH IT WOULDNT EVEN BE FUNNY!
:woot
Ruben Droughns if you listening COME TO HOUSTON!
TexansTrueFan
All Pro
ur crazy to thing Droughns is a better starting RB than D.D. I mean yeah he played for denver, but how many RBs have played there and not been successful ? A RB is only as good as his O-Line, i think we saw that with Portis when he went to Washington this year, look at the drop in his production from when he was in Denver to where he is now !
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TexansNeedRBin05 said:
you can read can't you? do you know what "if" means. Thats why I said "IF" he did it. Second we don't need him anyways, there are plenty of backs in the draft that are cheaper and younger. There is no way we're just going to get him for a 4th round pick, don't you think if thats all he would cost somebody would of pick him up already. he is going to cost money, money that we don't have to spend on that position. The Oline that he has run behind in GB has been much better than ours, whos to say he would put up the same numbers. Yes DD has had injury problems and had a up and down year, but he is talented and most players have setbacks in their 2nd year. I think we should draft someone in the later rounds who could push him in camp and take about 10 carries a game to lessen the load on DD. Signing Davenport would be a total knee jerk reaction. This isn't a game of madden that you can just turn the cap off and bring in all kinds of FAs and we are not in "dire" need of a rb. He have a small need of a back that can carry the load when needed to, thats it. CC & company will find a back that fits the bill in the draft.
TexansNeedRBin05
Waterboy
Carr Bomb said:
Cant we trade DD? hes terrible we only need 1 back I agree!
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TexansNeedRBin05 said:
I'm starting to agree with the shark, you must be a troll.
TexansNeedRBin05
Waterboy
Carr Bomb said:
I am going to say it one more time and more time only and ill never say another word about it until the Texans get a new back. DD is TERRIBLE!
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I am soooooooo glad you are not the GM of my team. When elvaluating a player, you have to look at his value against the cap. DD putting up back to back 1000 yard seasons and countless receiving yards has GREAT value considering he was a 4th round pick. Also everybody gives Carr a pass because of the Oline, but not DD. Alot of the time there is penetration in the line when Carr is handing the ball off. We have to fix the problem up front. Also I don't even know why I'm posting with I guy who calls himself
Texansneedarb - was it your only purpose to sign up on this board to blast DD., because if thats the only thing your going to talk about its going to get old fast.
Texansneedarb - was it your only purpose to sign up on this board to blast DD., because if thats the only thing your going to talk about its going to get old fast.
uhcougar08
SHSUKATS08
TexansNeedRBin05 said:
Is this the same guy who had 1776 yards total offense which he had averages of 3.9 yards rushing and 8.6 yards receiving. The man had 14 TD's.
On a team that struggled to block anyone, did you want 2000 yds rushing and 1000 yds receiving? I thought our problem was our OL? If you are going to point fingers, make sure you know what you are talking about. Let's do this (sarcasim), lets trade him for R. Droughns and watch him get 3000 yds rushing behind the system they have up there.
Yall are completely blind, there is nothing wrong with our two year experienced running back. Let's work on the OL and see what happens then, but you can't point fingers behind a OL that has David running for his life every play.
By the way did you know we were ranked 12th in rushing last year?
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Vinny said:
I think that has more to do with the fact that once we get into the redzone Capers like to punch it in. I've been going over game tape and it seems that in the first half of the year the defense was getting a big push and closing holes fast. However things started to come around towards the end of the season, maybe it was just the transision to the zone, I don't know, it should be more clear this year.
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uhcougar08 said:
I hope you didn't include me in the "yall" discusion
D-ReK
RAWWWRR!
uhcougar08 said:
3.9 YPC is nothing special, and most of DDs receptions yards came when AJ was shut down and DD was the only option...He is a good goal line back, though...
uhcougar08 said:
Our run blocking isn't as bad as everyone tries to make it out to be...Once the O-Line took to the zone blocking scheme, our backs started performing well...Even Jonathan Wells ran for 100 yds in a game...I'm not so sure that DD made the O-Line look good as the O-Line made DD look good...
uhcougar08 said:
Run blocking and pass blocking are two completely different things...Therefore, isn't it possible for a group to be better at one than the other? We have a good run blocking line, but they're terrible at pass blocking...If anything, we need more versatile lineman...
uhcougar08 said:
Did you know that we were 10th in rushing attempts last year? We were 22nd in YPC...I won't put the brunt of the blame on DD, but he deserves some of it...
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Vinny said:
I seriously didn't know that was the broad assumption. I'm just speaking from what I've seen on the game tapes. Since we're in the offseason I've gone back and analized our games. In the first half of the season DD was met in the backfield or at the line I don't know if that was the line our because of hesitation from his unfamilarity with the new blocking sceme
uhcougar08
SHSUKATS08
Carr Bomb,
I was not at all refering to you at all. I may be new here, because I just found this. I know people are entitled to their opionions on here but come on, atleast know what you are talking about. You and Vinny throw out some great post that have facts to back them up. Like DD, if you throw out the right stats, you can't go wrong just improve at a young age.
I was not at all refering to you at all. I may be new here, because I just found this. I know people are entitled to their opionions on here but come on, atleast know what you are talking about. You and Vinny throw out some great post that have facts to back them up. Like DD, if you throw out the right stats, you can't go wrong just improve at a young age.
TexansNeedRBin05
Waterboy
uhcougar08 said:
How can a RB improve? its pretty easy run the ball doing it for a # of years just wears you out.
uhcougar08
SHSUKATS08
What are you talking about?
Do you want us to start a rookie every year then?
Please explain yourself more, im confussed?
Do you want us to start a rookie every year then?
Please explain yourself more, im confussed?