Picture fits my story to, OB didn’t get the QB he wanted so he settled on what RS wanted.
I'm not arguing that. I've already said at least twice it was reported BO'b wanted Mahomes, Rick wanted Watson.
Also saying they didn’t plan to trade up before the draft is a very broad statement. Does that mean it changed mid draft? And when did it change, after Chicago moved up, after KC moved up, did it change because those two were taken or was it on draft day they knew QBs were going higher than they first thought?
Exactly. Those are the questions I said his story raised.
As far as saying “Best I could do is 12.” that would be an extremely stupid statement on his part if he ever wants to be a GM or not because you can always move up higher if you are willing to pay the price and find a seller and seeing as KC jumped over us clearly there were sellers.
Well, that is what he said. The best he could do was 12.
Surely that takes into account what he was willing to give up.
If he had said no one supported him moving up for Watson ok that I might can see but not moving up at all?
Agree. Sounds like he left that part of the story out.
To add to the discussion, let's say in 2014 BO'b wanted Jimmy Garropolo (we pretty much accept this is true). Does that mean BO'b would have drafted Jimmy G 1st overall? 2nd overall? 3rd? We really don't know.
So to say BO'b wanted to trade to 8 or 10 to get Mahomes isn't necessarily true either. At the time, he might not have wanted to give up the draft picks he'd need to to get him. I remember asking before that draft, how high would you be willing to trade up.
No one answered. After the fact, "I'd have traded up to 8" is all I heard & really after the fact is a BS answer anyway. I've got nothing against someone saying they'll do it, don't get me wrong. But say it before & don't Monday morning whatever your GM did do is my point.
But yes, I find it interesting (& very unbelievable) that trading up to get a QB in that draft was a last minute decision. Had Mahomes & Watson been off the board, we'd have traded up to 12 to get Mitch Trubisky.