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Report: Texans 'trying hard' to deal top pick

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Bleacher Report's Dan Pompei reports the Texans are "trying hard" to trade the No. 1 overall pick in May's draft and "might have a trade partner" in the Bills. Pompei has been covering the NFL for nearly 30 years.

The Texans reportedly want to move down in an effort to accumulate more picks in what is considered the deepest draft in recent memory. The Bills are said to be eyeing a move up, possibly for a quarterback. It'd be quite the statement if Buffalo was to give up on E.J. Manuel just one year after making him the 16th overall pick. Targeting a pass rusher like Jadeveon Clowney or Khalil Mack might make more sense. The Bills are currently scheduled to draft ninth overall and have just seven picks total.
http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/8375/jadeveon-clowney


Word from the NFL meetings is the Texans are trying hard to deal the first pick in the draft. They want to move down and acquire extra selections. Sources say they might have a trade partner in the Bills, who appear interested in moving up. It is unclear who the Bills would want in a trade-up scenario. Some believe they would move up for a quarterback. They also could make good use of an offensive tackle such as Greg Robinson. And it would be something to see them pair Mario Williams with either Jadeveon Clowney or Khalil Mack.
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And it would be something to see them pair Mario Williams with either Jadeveon Clowney or Khalil Mack.

If I were the Bills, & I wanted to trade up, I'm going with Clowney (they still run a 4-3 right?)

Mario & Clowney in a 4-3 would be sick.


I mean they'd make the defensive coordinator sick. They'll have to come up with some signal to let each other know which play they are going to take off.


j/k, I think Mario & Clowney would be fierce.... uh... we have to play the Bills this year don't we?
 
If they sat at 9, the only QB who MIGHT be there is Bridgewater, but that is a big if. He could easily be gone.

After yesterday, it's hard to imagine JM still being there, or Bortles for that matter.

If they want one of the big three, they would have to move back up somehow.

But let's imagine for a second that this happens and they stay at nine.

What's the overall strategy? Who is the pick there and what about a QB?
 
I'm thinking we trade back to 9 and take either:

1. Jake Matthews
2. Aaron Donald
3. Anthony Barr
4. Justin Gilbert

There's still a possibility that Bridgewater or Bortles are still there, as well.

For the Bills, the obvious choice is Clowney but they could also be going after Watkins.
 
I'm thinking we trade back to 9 and take either:

1. Jake Matthews
2. Aaron Donald
3. Anthony Barr
4. Justin Gilbert

There's still a possibility that Bridgewater or Bortles are still there, as well.

For the Bills, the obvious choice is Clowney but they could also be going after Watkins.

Yeah, I'm not seeing them go for one of the QBs like the article states. Definitely Clowney or Watkins, imo
 
Use one of the extra picks to trade back up into the first round and grab Nix as their second first rounder.
 
If we're trading down, I'd rather it be with Cleveland and nabbing two first rounders... If this goes through Buffalo better sell us the house.
 
I'm thinking we trade back to 9 and take either:

1. Jake Matthews
2. Aaron Donald
3. Anthony Barr
4. Justin Gilbert

There's still a possibility that Bridgewater or Bortles are still there, as well.

For the Bills, the obvious choice is Clowney but they could also be going after Watkins.

Probably Clowney, but if you're the Bills GM/coach you have to be salivating at the prospect of giving your franchise QB (Manuel) a franchise wideout.
 
Really, really hope this happens. We need the extra picks because this roster is paper thin. Bridgewater might even still be available at #9.

As for the Bills, I could see them targeting Watkins, Clowney, Mack, or Robinson. Most likely Clowney though.
 
I don't think this trade happens.

I think this is a smokescreen to pressure another team to trade up with us...

I think that the Jaguars want Jadaveon Clowney. I think their mouths are watering at the prospect. I think the Falcons would love to get Jadaveon as well.

I think the Texans will play this like they played the Schaub deal. Either YOU jump up for Jadaveon or SOMEONE else WILL...

Texans could get quite a haul here.
 
If they sat at 9, the only QB who MIGHT be there is Bridgewater, but that is a big if. He could easily be gone.

Don't agree. I think the only qb in this draft truly worthy of a top ten is TB. Bortles and JM are in the 11-25 range for me. But I'm pretty sure someone will be desperate enough to reach for them before that.

BOB keeps mentioning that there's more than 3 QBs in this draft, and I think they may target someone at 2.1

Please let this trade happen.
 
I'm thinking we trade back to 9 and take either:

1. Jake Matthews
2. Aaron Donald
3. Anthony Barr
4. Justin Gilbert

There's still a possibility that Bridgewater or Bortles are still there, as well.

For the Bills, the obvious choice is Clowney but they could also be going after Watkins.

Most people have the Rams taking Robinson. I can see the Bills wanting to beat them to him.

Edit: Belay my last, Just saw they drafted Cordy Glenn in 2012.
 
They have to be targeting Kahlil Mack. He's from Buffalo. How often do you have a top tier talent from upstate New York? He's one of the few picks they might not have trouble retaining! :)
 
What kind of package could the Bills offer to make it worth it?
 
What kind of package could the Bills offer to make it worth it?
That's the question ? They'd make that trade if they wouldn't have to give up too much, just as we would do the deal if we got enough. Where's the happy middle ground ?
 
i knew it.

its the bill belicheck new england philosophy of trading away premium talent in order to get a couple more mediocre talents.
 
What kind of package could the Bills offer to make it worth it?

Not the robbery that people here are going to want/expect. It won't be like the Redskins trade with us getting (3) 1st's and a 2nd.

I could see something like...

Texans Get:
1 (#9)
2 (#41)
3 (#73)
2015 1st
2015 5th

Bills Get:
1 (#1)
4 (#101)

We swap 1st's and get their 2nd. We swap our 4th with their 3rd and get their 2015 1st & 5th. According to the draft value chart the total is off by 3 points.
 
Not the robbery that people here are going to want/expect. It won't be like the Redskins trade with us getting (3) 1st's and a 2nd.

I could see something like...

Texans Get:
1 (#9)
2 (#41)
3 (#73)
2015 1st
2015 5th

Bills Get:
1 (#1)
4 (#101)

We swap 1st's and get their 2nd. We swap our 4th with their 3rd and get their 2015 1st & 5th. According to the draft value chart the total is off by 3 points.

As deep as this draft is, that wouldn't be a bad haul
 
Not the robbery that people here are going to want/expect. It won't be like the Redskins trade with us getting (3) 1st's and a 2nd.

I could see something like...

Texans Get:
1 (#9)
2 (#41)
3 (#73)
2015 1st
2015 5th

Bills Get:
1 (#1)
4 (#101)

We swap 1st's and get their 2nd. We swap our 4th with their 3rd and get their 2015 1st & 5th. According to the draft value chart the total is off by 3 points.

You add that to our existing picks and that's a helluva haul in a deep draft.
 
True. The Bills would likely balk at trading their 1,2, & 3 this year though. Probably counter with their 1st, 2nd, and 5th this year and 1st & 3rd next year.

^^^^
This

I would do this deal.

It's going to be a 3 yr rebuilding project. I think Cal really wants JM but #1 is way too high.
 
What if we got Marcel Dareus and their first plus another pick? He's a big fat NT. Any chance of that?

He's a better fit at DE, IMO. He has 18.5 sacks in 3 years playing DE/DT for Buffalo, putting him at NT is a waste of his skills. Even at Alabama he played 3-4 DE instead of NT.
 
If you're cool with waiting for a QB, the aforementioned trade probably is not a bad idea. In this draft, that means you can get several starters for this team.
 
If you're cool with waiting for a QB, the aforementioned trade probably is not a bad idea. In this draft, that means you can get several starters for this team.

I think a qb can still be had if this trade was made
 
I think a qb can still be had if this trade was made

Which one do you think falls?

I don't think Manziel falls past the Raiders. If he ends up at #5, I think Dennis Allen pulls the trigger. Bortles and/or Bridgewater might make it because people pass on them. I think one of the two goes to the Jags, though.
 
Every team that needs a QB isn't likely to take a QB.

If you go back to past drafts this is often the case. Sometimes these guys will fall to the mid or bottom of the first and someone will trade up for them.

I don't think there has ever been more than 3 QB's taken in the top ten. And 3 QB's being taken in the top ten is very rare...

Could happen, but I'm not expecting it TBH...

But I don't think the Texans will trade with Buffalo. I don't think they want to go any lower than 5. Nothing to support that...but just my hunch......UNLESS...they just get an outrageous deal....

I think this leaked in order to drum up interest from the teams right below us.

"Look Buffalo is interested in trading up....They could take Clowney, Robinson, Your favorite QB, Mack...."

"You better beat their offer or they might take your guy"
 
Which one do you think falls?

I don't think Manziel falls past the Raiders. If he ends up at #5, I think Dennis Allen pulls the trigger. Bortles and/or Bridgewater might make it because people pass on them. I think one of the two goes to the Jags, though.

I'm extremely confident that Jags will take Clowney or Mack.
 
Which one do you think falls?

I don't think Manziel falls past the Raiders. If he ends up at #5, I think Dennis Allen pulls the trigger. Bortles and/or Bridgewater might make it because people pass on them. I think one of the two goes to the Jags, though.

I don't think the raiders or the jags pull the trigger on a qb with first selection
 
I'm extremely confident that Jags will take Clowney or Mack.

I would LOVE if the Jags are in LOVE with Clowney...The Browns too...But I have a feeling the Browns want Manziel...

But if the Jags really want Clowney, and they think someone will trade up with us to grab him, they may instead trade up so prevent that from happening...

If we could move down to three and get a good haul of picks to go a long with it, that would be amazing...

If we did that and the draft went Clowney, Robinson, __________. We'd still have all three QB's on board PLUS extra picks.
 
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I would LOVE if the Jags are in LOVE with Clowney...The Browns too...But I have a feeling the Browns want Manziel...

But if the Jags really want Clowney, and they think someone will trade up with us to grab him, they may instead trade up so prevent that from happening...

If we could move down to three and get a good haul of picks to go a long with it, that would be amazing...

If we did that and the draft went Clowney, Robinson, __________. We'd still have all three QB's on board PLUS extra picks.

They aren't trading up for Clowney. If somebody trades up with us or STL and takes Clowney then JAX will just take Mack and be perfectly content about it.

Cleveland isn't trading up either. They are probably going to take Watkins #4 and take Carr/Garoppolo/Mettenberger #26. Maybe take whichever QB is available at #4, but they aren't trading up.

St. Louis at #2 and Oakland at #5 would probably prefer to trade back although the Raiders would probably love Watkins. Neither is trading up though.

The most likely candidates are ATL at 6, MIN at 8, and BUF at 9.
 
They aren't trading up for Clowney. If somebody trades up with us or STL and takes Clowney then JAX will just take Mack and be perfectly content about it.

0 chance you could know that...


But I said "if"...

And I just used the Jags as the perfect possible team.
 
Wouldn't it be wild if we kept trading down until we had no first round pick. Trade down 4 or 5 times, then also trade the 5 to 7 rounds to position everything in the 2nd round. To have around 6 or 7 2nd round picks would be awesome.
 
Not the robbery that people here are going to want/expect. It won't be like the Redskins trade with us getting (3) 1st's and a 2nd.

I could see something like...

Texans Get:
1 (#9)
2 (#41)
3 (#73)
2015 1st
2015 5th

Bills Get:
1 (#1)
4 (#101)

We swap 1st's and get their 2nd. We swap our 4th with their 3rd and get their 2015 1st & 5th. According to the draft value chart the total is off by 3 points.

i would be all for this. gives us the option to trade up multiple times during the draft to get "our" guy. could end up with 3 picks in the 2nd or 3rd. and in a deep draft this could not be better.....
actually it can we have another 1st next year !!!!!!
 
Wouldn't it be wild if we kept trading down until we had no first round pick. Trade down 4 or 5 times, then also trade the 5 to 7 rounds to position everything in the 2nd round. To have around 6 or 7 2nd round picks would be awesome.

And who are all these players in later rounds that you think they should to target?.
 
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