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Replacement GM thread

AcresHomesTexan

AcresHomesTexan

No Longer Arlington: Escaped From Jerry's World
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The point of this thread is to focus on the NEW Texans GM and organization structure without the focus on Rick Smith's performance and/or his wife's cancer.

Yes, I am starting with his statement and a link to press conference as his length of departure is a part of the story, but those you prone to beating the dead horse of his tenure at least try to focus on the future no the past as much as possible.

Leave statement
http://www.houstontexans.com/news/a...-absence/4e87969c-1ce1-4eb9-ac49-f3becc404119

Press conference

http://www.houstontexans.com/tv-med...nference/48895e4f-a18c-4089-9b34-d6409ed276ba
 
Consultant / GM:

Eliot Wolf / Polian
Or
Gaine / Polian

Last Resort
Raye / Polian
 
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http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...ompson-out-as-packers-gm-will-assume-new-role

This change will come as big news around the NFL, but it will hardly cause one of the league's most stable franchises to start over. Thompson isn't even leaving the organization and the Packers have a host of personnel guys in-house as options to replace Thompson, not to mention a phalanx of Thompson acolytes littered throughout the league. Thompson learned his trade under legendary Packers general manager Ron Wolf and it's easy to imagine the general manager job going to Wolf's son Eliot, who is the director of football operations for the team. Director of player personnel Brian Gutekunst and VP of football administration Russ Ball are other options, according to Rapoport.
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How about Alonso Highsmith ?
 
The dude's name is Brian Gaine. Not Gaines. I'm not sure if I want him to come back because I'm not sure what he brought to the table anyway.

I just saw Ted Thompson got fired so I'd like to see a guy like him or Pioli. I'd like to bring in a guy with a track record that's already been successful with another organization.
 
infantrycak said:
If you can get Eliot Wolf you do it. I just don't think it can be done even if he agrees to interview.
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Why not, if Wolf doesn't get the Packers job he will be available.

My wish list is.

1. McCloughan
2. Nick Caserio, I want the Texans to get their own Dimitroff and you know Caserio and BOB will work well together.
3. Brian Gaine
 
I think this will be very challenging for the texans to attract top talent for even interviews since a potential candidates would see Smith being on a sabbatical and realize they'd be intereiwing for an interim position.
 
IDEXAN said:
I think this will be very challenging for the texans to attract top talent for even interviews since a potential candidates would see Smith being on a sabbatical and realize they'd be intereiwing for an interim position.
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Which is why I said Raye and McCloughan then evaluate after 2018. At that point they should be able to make a commitment to a direction.
 
infantrycak said:
Which is why I said Raye and McCloughan then evaluate after 2018. At that point they should be able to make a commitment to a direction.
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You sure it isn't because you want BOB to fail and be gone after 2018?

Keeping Raye ensures that happens.
 
Lol. Stop pretending to know 90% of the crud you spew. You don't know what Raye has or would do. You don't know what Gaine has or would do. And what Idexan said made perfect sense. You can't sign a top flite GM without a firm commitment. That does not appear to be forthcoming. Operating under what has been stated a 1 year plan and reevaluate makes sense.

Oh and look my suggestion involved the same guy, McCloughan. I guess you want OB to fail too.
 
infantrycak said:
Lol. Stop pretending to know 90% of the crud you spew. You don't know what Raye has or would do. You don't know what Gaine has or would do. And what Idexan said made perfect sense. You can't sign a top flite GM without a firm commitment. That does not appear to be forthcoming. Operating under what has been stated a 1 year plan and reevaluate makes sense.

Oh and look my suggestion involved the same guy, McCloughan. I guess you want OB to fail too.
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I know what Raye did as Asst GM in Indy with Luck and dont want the same thing happening to Watson. I also want McCloughan signed on to a 3 yr deal and BOB signed to a 2 yr extension or nothing at all. Really any GM they get besides Raye.

# Do Not Raye
 
Why all the love for Ted Thompson? What's he done beside draft Aaron Rodgers??
Who of note has he drafted in the last five years??
How did he let GB's O-line look as sad as ours over that time?

I say let O'Brien be in on the GM hiring process this time. It worked for Kubiak. He brought in a guy who would do what he said and, together, they took us from doormats to division champs. Give O'Brien that same shot.

 
infantrycak said:
Well don't keep us in suspense, spell it out.



McCloughan has to prove he can stay sober. And OB doesn't deserve an extension of any kind. Perform next year and get paid, both of them.
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I actually find a person willing to bet on themselves sort of inspirational so I agree with this. Nothing wrong with a prove it type deal. Particularly when you're talking about a HC who is so close to .500 that in essence he really hasn't proven anything yet.
 
I hope they can lure Charlie casserley out of the nfl network then take him to the basement like they did joe Pesci in goodfellas - payback for what he did to the Texans and a whole lotta other things.

I’m hoping for a younger gm but I’m just glad smith is likely out for good as GM.
 
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chicagotexan2 said:
I hope they can lure Charlie casserley out of the nfl network then take him to the basement like they did joe Pesci in goodfellas - payback for what we did to the Texans and a whole lotta other things.

I’m hoping for a younger gm but I’m just glad smith is likely out for good as GM.
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I just purchased a few rolls of plastic off Amazon. Say when
 
infantrycak said:
Well don't keep us in suspense, spell it out.



McCloughan has to prove he can stay sober. And OB doesn't deserve an extension of any kind. Perform next year and get paid, both of them.
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Look at Luck and Indy, Grigso/ Raye were responsible for getting most of that talent.

He's currently got a wrongful termination suit against the Redskins. He claims sobriety. But even if he's not sober, who cares if he can put SB level yalent on the field? Obviously drinking hasn't hampered his ability to judge talent, do contracts etc...

I mean Irsay got busted with pills and nothing happened to him, yet McCloughan is being thrown out of the NFL for drinking. There are pics of Cal drinking, so it shouldn't be an issue.
 
steelbtexan said:
Look at Luck and Indy, Grigso/ Raye were responsible for getting most of that talent.
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Lol - so you've got nothing. Just like here you have no idea what kind of job anyone under the GM has done.

Drinking is not the same as alcoholic. You're being absurd.
 
infantrycak said:
Lol - so you've got nothing. Just like here you have no idea what kind of job anyone under the GM has done.

Drinking is not the same as alcoholic. You're being absurd.
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You want to be the Colts go ahead and hire Raye.

You ever know a very high functioning alcoholic?

As long as the man does his job well I dont care what he does in his personal life. BTW, his wife (he's never been divorced unlike most alcoholics, as of March 2017) fully backs him.
 
McCloughan's drinking led to two terminations and is in a grievance over a third. If you hire him (unlikely with current issue with Redskins), you are dealing with a person who can never have a drink of alcohol (or other mind-altering substance) and expect it not to greatly damage his performance and/or ability to get along with others. It is well-documented this point.

http://www.espn.com/espn/feature/st...l-best-talent-scout-self-employed-living-farm

https://wtop.com/washington-redskin...g-bookends-washingtons-no-good-very-bad-week/
 
infantrycak said:
If you can get Eliot Wolf you do it. I just don't think it can be done even if he agrees to interview.
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The Texans should be a pretty attractive landing spot for a GM. Some great talent to build around, plenty of cap space and a very patient owner. The only real negative I see, not picking until round 3 in the 2018 draft, is a short term negative that could be mitigated by a talented GM.
 
DocBar said:
The Texans should be a pretty attractive landing spot for a GM.
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It's not that I think the Texans are unattractive. It's that I think Eliot Wolf and Eric DeCosta have been promoted, overpaid & made promises toward them being GMs in Green Bay & Baltimore.
 
steelbtexan said:
You want to be the Colts go ahead and hire Raye.

You ever know a very high functioning alcoholic?

As long as the man does his job well I dont care what he does in his personal life. BTW, his wife (he's never been divorced unlike most alcoholics, as of March 2017) fully backs him.
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I work with a lad who chucks 8 cans of Coors down his neck after work every day, then passes out at some stage of drinking JD. Wakes up, has a shower, comes into work the following night and kills it.

There are people who are high functioning alcoholics out there, who don't ever slip up in work.

I guess it becomes a problem that one time they do, but then people slip up in work all the time for any number of reasons, but if there is drink or drugs involved it seems like they get a shorter leash.
 
Yeah, Ted Thompson is out as GM in Green Bay. There are multiple in-house prospects including Eliot Wolf but the Packers are going to entertain outside interview options as well. Wolf will probably get the nod but if he doesn't, I'd hope the Texans would put him on their short list.
 
welsh texan said:
I work with a lad who chucks 8 cans of Coors down his neck after work every day, then passes out at some stage of drinking JD. Wakes up, has a shower, comes into work the following night and kills it.

There are people who are high functioning alcoholics out there, who don't ever slip up in work.

I guess it becomes a problem that one time they do, but then people slip up in work all the time for any number of reasons, but if there is drink or drugs involved it seems like they get a shorter leash.
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8 cans of Coors? Does he ever stop pissing? That stuff is pure Rocky Mountain spring water strained through a dirty sock and damn little else. Somebody tell this young man that there are shorter distances between those two points.
 
infantrycak said:
It's not that I think the Texans are unattractive. It's that I think Eliot Wolf and Eric DeCosta have been promoted, overpaid & made promises toward them being GMs in Green Bay & Baltimore.
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Exactly. They might decide to interview out of curiosity or to maybe prod the organization they're currently in (if they think it might be time to do that) but unless they see something that really intrigues them or the check just has so many damn zeroes on it they have to keep recounting to make sure they're seeing what they think they're seeing they'll stay put and wait their turn.
 
Since there may be a 1 season limit on this new GM position, getting a top or young up and coming GM to commit to the Texans could be very difficult. If O'Brien is being retained, then maybe McNair would be better off just getting someone to come in, as Consultant, and oversee 2018 with O'Brien. I'd fall back on Bill Polian to handle this job for a season.
 
I don't know a lot about GM candidates, so I'm keeping my big trap shut on the subject.
 
infantrycak said:
It's not that I think the Texans are unattractive. It's that I think Eliot Wolf and Eric DeCosta have been promoted, overpaid & made promises toward them being GMs in Green Bay & Baltimore.
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Agreed

McNair should interview as many great candidates as possible so he can learn different ways competent orgs do business. That way he will have more knowledge about how to improve his team/org.
 
Scooter said:
What records am I checking and why are you bringing up Kubiak?
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RAC's and McDaniel's, you will find BOB is far from the worst HC from the BB tree.

Because there's no other football person on earth as good as Kubiak in your mind, so he should be the next GM, Am I right?
 
welsh texan said:
I work with a lad who chucks 8 cans of Coors down his neck after work every day, then passes out at some stage of drinking JD. Wakes up, has a shower, comes into work the following night and kills it.

There are people who are high functioning alcoholics out there, who don't ever slip up in work.

I guess it becomes a problem that one time they do, but then people slip up in work all the time for any number of reasons, but if there is drink or drugs involved it seems like they get a shorter leash.
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For the purpose of this discussion, McCloughan's alcoholism has cost him 2 jobs, and probably a third, so he does not fall under the mythology of a functional alcoholic...some will never lose a job, but for the most of that number job performance is greatly negatively affected (not that functional really) ..I speak from experience, not speculation on this matter.
 
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