texasguy346
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Our very own AJ (Details of AJ's Involvement) was linked to Shapiro as well many other current and former players. However, AJ didn't seem to be as involved as many of the other players.
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Renegade Miami Booster Spells Out Illicit Benefits to Players
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Our very own AJ (Details of AJ's Involvement) was linked to Shapiro as well many other current and former players. However, AJ didn't seem to be as involved as many of the other players.
texasguy346
Mod Squad
TheCD
Rookie
The piece on AJ seems to point out that he was only bought drinks and access to a VIP area of a club. If he was of age and this is a violation in the NCAA, then I think the NCAA needs to rethink their rules.
This "amateur athlete" stuff has got to stop. Where in America is it illegal to receive charitable goods except for college athletes?
This "amateur athlete" stuff has got to stop. Where in America is it illegal to receive charitable goods except for college athletes?
TheCD
Rookie
My question is why are these gifts illegal for college athletes, except for the NCAA trying to play up to the idea of the "purity" of the sport by having unpaid athletes?
I really don't follow college football, so these rules don't make any sense to me.
When I went on recruiting trips they bought stuff for us....food, club access...Girls...
The girls were called "guides", but when we were getting ready to go to the club they picked us up from the hotel and went back to their house so they could wink"get ready"wink...Then in the club they treated us like kings.
Good times. Memories.
The girls were called "guides", but when we were getting ready to go to the club they picked us up from the hotel and went back to their house so they could wink"get ready"wink...Then in the club they treated us like kings.
Good times. Memories.
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Doppelganger
None
One theory might mean that if a booster gives a player X benefits and keeps doing it, the player may become dependent on the booster. The booster could then tell the player, I need you to win the game but not cover the spread. A dropped ball, a stumble, or maybe a holding penalty can appear harmless on the field, but in reality has been done to help the booster win a bet.
Sports gains fans where teams are historically poor becuase there is belief that any given year, the team can come together and win. If point shaving, or any other aspects are introduced, it eliminates the purity of sports and makes people think everything is already planned out.
At that points legitimate sports become nothing more than wrestling.
Dutchrudder
Hall of Fame
Well if they joined the SEC, then this wouldn't be a problem.
The1ApplePie
Hall of Fame
spurstexanstros
Texans Rising
As I mentioned in other thread. UTSA hired former Miami head coach Larry Coker on the basis of what he did at Miami....this cant be good. Our AD Lynne Hickey is prominent member of NCAA councils. She cant be having a good day right now. I dont know you start up a football program and the guy who is heading it up was around when all this happened. Not good.
Texan4Ever
All Pro
Why would women subject themselves to something like this? As a player I would be ashamed of myself.
He hasn't been named in the story as far as I know but players he coached have been.
There was a story about JaMarkus McFarland (or something like that) where this was being done to attract him to different schools. Texas was the one who gave him women and stuff to entice him to come play at UT (he went to Oklahoma).
Miami should get the death penalty, nuff' said. Miami's Dean should also loose her job and possibly go to jail for her involvement.
Doppelganger
None
If the women are hookers they got cash and possibly other financial perks(maybe paying off credit card debt, cars, etc). If the women were students, then maybe they also got cash, got to party with the football team etc. Some women really get off on being with well known people. Since the football teams are the most popular/famous students at a school, they may derive some satisfaction from being connected to those people.
Sad, but some people base their self worth on who they are connected to.
Dutchrudder
Hall of Fame
Yeah, and they don't even have to be paid sometimes. I was friends with a couple walk-on football players at A&M, and at parties they would get a ton of attention. One awesome party I went to my junior year was attended by many of the football team starters and the Aggie Dance Squad (cheerleaders for the baskeball team). They were incredibly hot and swarmed around the football guys. Even the walk-on players got a lot of action from just being on the team. Maybe it's just the culture of being in college, but there certainly was no shortage of women for players. They are local celebs, the reality TV stars of campus, and when the world is seemingly limited to just a few thousand people, they become demigods to some extent. But it sure is fun while it lasts.
Well...I dunno if I'd call them hookers....But technically that's probably what they were....
But they were actually students at the school...one of them was a trainer for the team...
Being mature is not something running rampant with highschool seniors. Heck, I had just turned 17 at the time. I didn't turn 18 until my freshman year of college...
My younger brother that plays RB for SFA was even younger than I was...He didn't go on any recruiting visits, but he didn't turn 17 until his freshman year...
I'm not saying it is a good situation for everyone. But my point was that for 16,17,18, 19 year olds it's kind of hard to turn down sex from attractive older women. It's easy for folks to say as adults what they would and wouldn't do, but you have to remember than a lot of recruits aren't even 18 when they go on these visits..
MightyTExan
It's go time!
spurstexanstros
Texans Rising
when i was that age a stiff wind around a pretty lady who deprive me of rational thought...i agree you cant blame teenage boys for acting like teenage boys.
Koolaid Time
Drink Up!
Mr. Shapiro better be in "Admin Segregation" because after opening his mouth like that his days could be numbered.
Blake
MMQB
NCAA, stop fighting a fight that cannot be won. Simply let go and allow high profile student-athletes or any student-athletes get what they can while in college from booster gifts to apparel contracts and paid appearances. What are you so afraid of? Is it that you truly want to protect these kids from malicious boosters or companies who are trying to use them for personal gain, or are you looking out for your own bank account?
Koolaid Time
Drink Up!
OK, lets skip the charade. Why doesn't the NFL just set up a Farm System so these players don't have to live the "lie" of being a 'student-athlete'?
Texan4Ever
All Pro
One thing I don't understand is the fact that people suggest athletes don't get a fair share of the pie.
BULL$HIT!
You're getting stipends, almost a full ride in some cases, a chance to network and improve job prospects in case you don't pan out as a football player, all the "academic assistance" you want, and god-like status to the point where you can pull a Vince Young or Sergio Kindle and still get away with it.
Heck I would volunteer as a human dummy tackling thing if I got half those perks.
BULL$HIT!
You're getting stipends, almost a full ride in some cases, a chance to network and improve job prospects in case you don't pan out as a football player, all the "academic assistance" you want, and god-like status to the point where you can pull a Vince Young or Sergio Kindle and still get away with it.
Heck I would volunteer as a human dummy tackling thing if I got half those perks.