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Redskins Fan Here Few Statements like Reggie Bush ect...
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ClintonPortis26
Noob
Ok here is my thoughts about Reggie Bush after talking to diffrent Texans fans, watching Videos, thinking diffrently, looking to see if I think his game can translate into the pros though im no scout...
Reggie Bush is very talented. He is a gamebreaker who can take one to the house or break a run that seriously looks like its going no where cuase 3 defenders are cornering him into a 14 Yard gain.
The Texans have Andre Johnson, David Carr, Jerome Mathis, and Domanick Davis. All which are very skilled and have potiential to start and be very good or average. Accept Domanick Davis, he is very injury prone and is a average player at best. Therefore he cant start, and the Texans need a Running Back.
Reggie Bush is a gamebreaker who can Kick/Punt Return Balls, Catch balls at wide reciever and take it to the house anytime at running back. He would take the Texans to another level and could probally win 2 or 3 games a season single handely if all pans out well. He would bring the State of Texas let alone America interest back into Houston Texans games becuase they would wanna see the remaking of Barry Sanders.
Overall, He plays like a 8 year old kid wants to play running back by juking everybody out and runs really fast. Would be a great pick with the number 1 overall pick.
I dont think anybody in Houston would ever regret this pick.
Reggie Bush is very talented. He is a gamebreaker who can take one to the house or break a run that seriously looks like its going no where cuase 3 defenders are cornering him into a 14 Yard gain.
The Texans have Andre Johnson, David Carr, Jerome Mathis, and Domanick Davis. All which are very skilled and have potiential to start and be very good or average. Accept Domanick Davis, he is very injury prone and is a average player at best. Therefore he cant start, and the Texans need a Running Back.
Reggie Bush is a gamebreaker who can Kick/Punt Return Balls, Catch balls at wide reciever and take it to the house anytime at running back. He would take the Texans to another level and could probally win 2 or 3 games a season single handely if all pans out well. He would bring the State of Texas let alone America interest back into Houston Texans games becuase they would wanna see the remaking of Barry Sanders.
Overall, He plays like a 8 year old kid wants to play running back by juking everybody out and runs really fast. Would be a great pick with the number 1 overall pick.
I dont think anybody in Houston would ever regret this pick.
swtbound07
Jackass of Day!
ClintonPortis26 said:
Bull. its already been shown that davis has started as many games as other high profile running backs in their first 3 years. Besides...dont you think the kubiak system will help keep him healthy? Second, he's not the reincarnation of barry sanders. There was only one barry.
I would regret this pick.
ClintonPortis26
Noob
the wonger need food said:
Al Saunders is our offensive coordinater now. You know, number 1 defense the last 2 years and was the wide recievers coach for the greatest show on turf?Torry Holt, Isaac Bruce, Az-Akim.
Kaiser Toro
Native Mod
It amazes me that anyone would say or presuppose that Reggie Bush is a given known NFL commodity. DD has two 1,000 yard seasons he is a proven NFL commodity. Bush is only a proven college back in a two back platoon.
It really does scare me that expectations are so wild for this kid. This is the NFL people, things happen. We would have been better off looking at Edgerrin than Bush if this was truly our need.
It really does scare me that expectations are so wild for this kid. This is the NFL people, things happen. We would have been better off looking at Edgerrin than Bush if this was truly our need.
swtbound07
Jackass of Day!
Kaiser Toro said:
Brilliant!
tulexan
Hall of Fame
Kaiser Toro said:
You can say almost the exact same thing about your guy Mario. But I guess, that's not an issue because he is the guy that you want.
Mario was great in college. Will he be great in the NFL? Probably, but do we know for sure? No. He was part of a great defense that had another stud at the other end of the line Manny Lawson. On top of that, he played in the ACC which was loaded with great defenses, but had one good offense (VT) and when he played against VT he had zero sacks. We just signed Anthony Weaver who was the starting DE on one of the best defenses of all time (Ravens 2000).
Kaiser Toro
Native Mod
tulexan said:
You know where I stand on this, it comes down to investment. If we were top heavy in our spending on defense I would be in the trade down camp, as always, or select Bush due to his versatility and need for another wideout. BUt that is not our case since we already have ~12 million dollar delta between O and D spending.
jacquescas
Veteran
Frankly Dom Davis' contract is not obsence and we will be able to keep both for at least 2 years.
el toro said:
Again, you turn this post into a 'Kubiak' thing and that is not the point I'm trying to make. Given the assumption/premise that it is going to take 2 or 3 yrs for the Texans to have 'everything' in place to be contenders/winners, Bush offers ZERO advantage/benefit over drafting Young in the 'immediate impact' genre. In 2 or 3 years, they will both have learned Kubiak's system and excel at it as the team moves toward its goal of winning/making the playoffs.
So, unless you believe the Texans are going to win and go to the playoffs in Kubiak's first year, Bush offers no impact advantage over Young.
swtbound07
Jackass of Day!
tsip said:
Very valid..and unless you think david carr will also have an immediate impact in kubiaks system, it wont translate into anything different in the win column
swtbound07 said:
IMO, the most important player decision Kubiak has to make is with his QB--saying that, nothing else K can do in developing the team will matter if there is not an 'effective' QB at the end of the 'equation.' So, here's hoping that K makes the right choice, whoever that may be...
run-david-run
All Pro
All this stuff about a linebacker catching DD is quite fictional. First off, when did you see that happen? I remeber the home game against the Titans when he broke off a 40 yarder and was one step away from pulling away when Woolfolk got him. Against the Ravens he broke a big one and Ed Reed brought him down. Also, what about the UT linebacker that stayed with Reggie on a deep route in the Rose Bowl? DD ran a 4.56 40 at the LSU pro-day, he is not that slow. Also, I'll take the 3rd and 1 conversion over the two or three long TD runs per season.
PS-how many times did you see LT break a 45+ yard run? What, three, maybe 4 times a season?
PS-how many times did you see LT break a 45+ yard run? What, three, maybe 4 times a season?
Wolf
100% Texan
run-david-run said:
only difference I see is when teams play the Chargers they gameplan around LT where as teams that play the Texans gameplan around AJ. LT can make the 1st person miss DD doesn't have that.. I am not bashing DD for he is a solid NFL player and think with the additions to the OL he should be even better ..
as far as the draft, I hope a deal comes through where we can trade down and get some additional picks.. I like the moves we have done in the offseason but we still need quality depth and hopefully a good draft can help with a starting position or two and some much needed depth.
tulexan said:
Except when John Abraham was available, we did want him too. Many people are upset, that we didn't even make him an offer, other's thought it was a sign that we'd go after Mario in the draft, till we signed Weaver.
jacquescas said:
That's my biggest problem......... I'd like for DD to be a Texan for life
Wolf said:
I wouldn't gameplan against DD either.... If I can get penetration with my front 4, why bother?? I'll hit him in the backfield. Doesn't matter wether it's Barry Sanders, LT, the Edge, Emmit Smith, Marshall Faulk, or whoever.
ClintonPortis26
Noob
swtbound07 said:
Lets just say its gonna take a while to see everybodies full impact? You guys keep going back and forth its sorta annoying...
Hottoddie
Veteran
ClintonPortis26 said:Lets just say its gonna take a while to see everybodies full impact? You guys keep going back and forth its sorta annoying...
I agree. I can't wait until the draft, so that we can get over these stupid Bush vs. Young arguments. In fact, I'm hoping we don't draft either one of them. That ought to clear at least a third of the newbie posters out of here. It's got to be unsettling for them. After all, they still don't know what NFL team they're going to be a fan of.
Wolf
100% Texan
Hottoddie said:I agree. I can't wait until the draft, so that we can get over these stupid Bush vs. Young arguments. In fact, I'm hoping we don't draft either one of them. That ought to clear at least a third of the newbie posters out of here. It's got to be unsettling for them. After all, they still don't know what NFL team they're going to be a fan of.
I thought the Sean Taylor and the Derrick Johnson debate were wild... double trouble this year! ..
Wolf
100% Texan
MasterC25 said:
problem is that this is the NFL and their are multiple players that fit that build.
I think Bush is a great talent.. I am not sold on him being the next Barry or even Gale Sayers.. I personally don't think he can live up to the hype. I hope I am wrong.. Nothing against Bush, I don't think he is even a Bo Jackson (who I think was one of the best athletes I have ever seen.. run with speed and power and even hit a fastball 400 feet)
tsip said:
Under Kubiak or Dr. Seuss as head coach, Bush sees the field on day 1. Young does not. Now does Bush on the field offer more impact than Young on the sidelines without Kubiak's system perfectly implemented? Yes. Bush on that field also gives the team a better chance to win while the team is being molded as Kubiak sees fit.
Saying that Kubiak needs 2 to 3 years to shape the team as he wants it does not necessarily presume that the team will take that long to be a playoff contender. I've never stated that.
Hottoddie
Veteran
You know, there was another RB that had amazing speed, quickness, & was tearing up college football. He had the ability to take it to the house every time he touched the ball. He could run around the ends & even up the middle. Unfortunately, he had a major knee injury after only 4 games. Yes, I'm talking about Tony Hollings. Had he not been injured, he was on a pace to blow away every record that Bush could only dream about. But, even after he was fully recovered from his injury, he still couldn't make it in the NFL.
Bush hasn't shown the ability to run up the middle, & in the NFL, only the elite of the elite can make a living running around the ends. Everyone keeps talking about lining him up in the slot as a receiver, but then he'll be matched up against experienced CB's with similar, or better, speed & most of them play a more physical game of bump & run. Thus, Bush loses his edge.
You guys are going to have to do a better job of selling me on Bush, because I don't get it. I think it's just a matter of him being the "Flavor of the Day". Next year, it'll be Adrian Peterson. Then, you'll have my undivided attention.
Bush hasn't shown the ability to run up the middle, & in the NFL, only the elite of the elite can make a living running around the ends. Everyone keeps talking about lining him up in the slot as a receiver, but then he'll be matched up against experienced CB's with similar, or better, speed & most of them play a more physical game of bump & run. Thus, Bush loses his edge.
You guys are going to have to do a better job of selling me on Bush, because I don't get it. I think it's just a matter of him being the "Flavor of the Day". Next year, it'll be Adrian Peterson. Then, you'll have my undivided attention.
Koolbrz
Waterboy
Hottoddie said:
How long do you think T. Hollings was a RB? 4 games my friend. That is a ton of exp. to bring into the NFL. I can see your point as to why he did not make an impact on this team. LOL...One more thing...The first time Bush breaks one for 70 yds. everyone and i mean everyone will be screaming his name. CAN YOU SMEEEEELLLLL WHAT REGGIE IS COOKING!!!!! LOL
Wolf
100% Texan
Hottoddie said:
http://video.search.yahoo.com/video...no=4&tt=4&p=adrian peterson&size=6.3MB&dur=53
http://video.search.yahoo.com/searc...a=adrian+peterson&fr=my-vert-web-top&ei=UTF-8
that is what I am talking about!
Koolbrz
Waterboy
thunderkyss said:DD has started more games his first three years, than Ederirin James, Tiki Barber, Larry Johnson, Clinton Portis,So defenses don't worry about 30 yrd runs?? yeah, OK. & no, we don't know how good our three can be, with Kubiak in charge. But I've got a good feeling we'll be better than we were last year.
You think we can get a player comparable to D'Brick lower in the draft?? Look at the running backs... Now imagine them in Kubiaks zone blocking......
You think Carr is getting paid more than Steve McNair.....
When people talk about the Texans, they say,'"well, they've got a good running game, and good special teams"
Tennessee doesn't have anything that would make it a betterr fit for Vince. Our Recievers are better(well, when we had Gaff), we have a running game..... We have a QB guru... We have a veteren QB who can..... Ok, maybe they've got one thing.... but Vince has been picking Steve's brain for a few years now already.
We know Thunder ...you want Vince...in all reality he will fit in better with Tenn. because of the style of offense they run with Mcnair. It would be similar to what they would run with VY. That is why i say he would be a better fit in Tenn. I don't care what you say about DD. When you have nothing but green in front of you, you should be able to take it home. Instead he is getting caught from behind. 30 yds. so what...any team would rather him have a 30 yd run and a fg...i would rather have 60 yds and A TOUCHDOWN!!!! That is not going to happen with the backs we have on this team. Reggie baby we need you!!!
Hottoddie said:
I hope your not trying to compare Reggie Bush to Tony Hollings(healthy). That comparsion is worthy of automatic ban from this thread. I really hope your kidding, if not your not watching the same thing were watching. If Reggie Bush is Tony Hollings then D'brick is kenyatta Walker coming out of Florida.
Hottoddie
Veteran
Wolf said:
Ditto!
Hottoddie
Veteran
MasterC25 said:
No, I'm comparing the pre-injury hype for Hollings to the Bush hype of today. Hollings had 633 yards rushing & 11 TD's through 4 games. He was also estimated to run a 4.45 40 yard dash & over 20 teams showed up for his pre-supplemental draft workout. Even though he had torn his cruciate ligament, there was quite a buzz around him.
On second thought, yes, I am comparing the two. Had Hollings stayed healthy & not been declared academically ineligible, he could've been, in all likely hood, the #1 overall pick in the 2003 or 2004 draft.
Hottoddie said:
Read your post correctly, Hollings did that through 4 games Bush has been the best back the past two years in college football. The upside of Hollings was no where in the same ballpark as Bush. Maybe the national championship game was your first games actually seeing Bush in live action in that case then I don't blame you for your comments, but I do suggest you find some game tapes of Bush and you will see why he is the most hyped player to come out since Vick. The Texans are just teasing other teams to see if a GM is dumb enough to give up all there draft picks(Mike Ditka- 2000 Ricky Williams), cause that is what it is going to take to pass up Reggie Bush.