Realistically, when will Houston make the playoffs?

[TexanBorn51]

True Pencil Neck but those are just stats of wins and losses off the top but these are the reasons why...Coach change with Bum in 75 (vs coach change Kubiak) and Tyler Rose in 78(vs player changes this year), had a few injuries and less divisions etc read on...75-80 one losing season with coach change Bum...great turnaround "luv ya blue"...

1973: To say the Oilers season was miserable would be an understatement, as Coach Bill Peterson is fired after a 0-5 start. The Oilers whose record under Peterson was a humiliating 1-18, would be led the rest of the season by Hall of Fame Coach Sid Gilman. However, not even Gilman could help, as the Oilers lost their next 2 before beating the Colts 31-27 in Baltimore for their only win of the season, as they finished the season with a 1-13 record, being outscored 447-199 on the season.

1974: Sid Gilman remains head coach but hires Bum Philips to be the defensive coordinator so he could be groomed to replace him. The Oilers would start the season off by winning their first game at the Astrodome 21-14 over the San Diego Chargers. However, the Oilers would struggle losing their next 5 games, but this time the Oilers would recover by winning their next 4 on the way to finishing with a 7-7 record. Following the season Gilman would step down, and let Bum Phillips take over.

1975: In Bum Phillips first season as Coach the Oilers finally played competitive football again posting their first winning season in 7 years with a 10-4 record. However, all 4 losses were to the Pittsburgh Steelers, and Cincinnati Bengals who beat out the Oilers for the Division Title and Wild Card spot.

1976: The Oilers get off to another strong start at 4-1. However, the team's offensive struggles would catch up with them as they lost 6 in a row and 8 of 8 overall to close out the season with a disappointing 5-9 record.

1977: The Oilers get off on the right foot again winning 3 of their first 4 games, which was capped by a 27-10 win over the Pittsburgh Steelers in the Astrodome. However, injuries would hamper the Oilers chances as they lost 5 of their next 6. Once some key players returned the Oilers would finish the season on a strong note to finish with an 8-6 record.

1978: Spurred by RB Earl Campbell who wins both the Offensive Rookie of the Year, and Offensive Player of the Year rushes for 1,450 yards, the Oilers make the playoffs with a 10-6 record, qualifying in the newly created 5th Wild Card spot. In the Wild Card Game the Oilers would travel to Miami where they stunned the Dolphins 17-9 to advance to the Divisional Playoffs. After beating the Dolphins the Oilers traveled to New England where they faced the Patriots before 61,297 chilly fans. However, the cold weather would not bother the Oilers 31-14 to earn a trip to Pittsburgh with a trip to the Super Bowl on the line. However, the Oilers run would end in disappointment as they are blown out by the Steelers 34-5. Following the loss the Oilers are greeted by 50,000 loyal fans at the Astrodome holding signs saying "Love Ya Blue."

1979: Earl Campbell continues to establish himself as the best RB in the league winning the Offensive Player of the year again while claiming the NFL MVP, by rushing for an NFL best 1,697 yards, while scoring 19 TDs. The Oilers would go on to finish with an 11-5 record, qualifying for the playoffs as a Wild Card again. In the first playoff game at the Astrodome the Oilers beat the Denver Broncos 13-7, but lose several key players including RB Earl Campbell, and QB Dan Pastorini to injuries. Playing without Campbell and Pastorini in the Divisional Playoffs the Oilers backup would step it up as they beat the Chargers in San Diego 17-13, as Vernon Perry sets a playoff record by intercepting 4 passes. The Oilers would move to the AFC Championship game in Pittsburgh for a rematch with the Steelers. The Oilers appeared to have the game tied in the 3rd Quarter but Officials said Mike Renfro was out of bounds when replays clearly showed he got both feet in. The call would be a back breaker as the Oilers fell 27-13. Following the loss the Oilers would return home where 70,000 fans showed up early in the morning to greet them in another "Love Ya Blue" rally.

1980: Earl Campbell continues to be the rest runner in the NFL winning the rushing title again, and Offensive Player of the Year again with an amazing 1,934-yard season. His season was highlighted by consecutive 200-yard games as he narrowly misses a 2,000-yard season. The Oilers would go on to finish with an 11-5 record, as they had to settle for the Wild Card again after losing the division via tiebreaker. In the Wild Card Game at Oakland the Oilers were stymied by the Raiders all game losing 27-7, as their season is ended by the eventual Super Bowl Champion for the 3rd year in a row. However, Owner Bud Adams was not satisfied, and he would fire Coach Bum Philips, and replace him with Ed Biles.

 

[DocBar]

Shoot for the moon and include a playoff win... I raise you...18 games.

That's what I'm talkin about!!!!! Bettin on the river card.

 

[DocBar]

OK, im going to give you the benefit of the doubt. Let's just say you beat the teams that i have ANY question about, here's how you will end up (and this is me being VERY generous):

Sep 10 Philadelphia 1:00pm WIN
Sep 17 @Indianapolis 1:00pm LOSS
Sep 24 Washington 1:00pm LOSS
Oct 1 Miami 1:00pm WIN
Week 5 BYE
Oct 15 @Dallas 1:00pm LOSS
Oct 22 Jacksonville 1:00pm LOSS
Oct 29 @Tennessee 1:00pm LOSS
Nov 5 @N.Y. Giants 1:00pm LOSS
Nov 12 @Jacksonville 1:00pm LOSS
Nov 19 Buffalo 1:00pm WIN
Nov 26 @N.Y. Jets 1:00pm WIN
Dec 3 @Oakland 4:05pm WIN
Dec 10 Tennessee 1:00pm WIN
Dec 17 @New England 1:00pm LOSS
Dec 24 Indianapolis 1:00pm LOSS
Dec 31 Cleveland WIN


With that schedule there's no way in hell you're doing better than 7-9. I'm sorry. No way in helllllllllllll.

I CAN"T believe you just came to our MB's and said we'll lose to the cowpunks. That's disrespectful. You're off by 4wins. We SWEEP the thumbtacks, split with Jags(at worst), split with Indy and HAMMER the cowpunks.

 

[TexanBorn51]

True somewhat Pencil Head but read Post 151 as far as 75-80 whith coach changeBum in 75 as in vs Kube this year...

 

[TexanBorn51]

Yeah, 1-13 in 73, 7-7 in 74, and then 10-4 in 75 but that wsan't the year they went deep in the playoffs.

Then they back to 5-9 in 76, 8-6, and FINALLY 10-6 in 78 and one game from the SB. So it wasn't really an immediate turn around.

Those two 1-13 seasons were from hell, though. Aaaack.

True somewhat Pencil Head but read Post 151 as far as 75-80 whith coach changeBum in 75 as in vs Kube this year...oops sorry about same post..

 

[The Pencil Neck]

True somewhat Pencil Head but read Post 151 as far as 75-80 whith coach changeBum in 75 as in vs Kube this year...oops sorry about same post..

I always attributed "the change" to Sid Gillman. As far as I was concerned, Sid Gillman came in and got things moving in the right direction and then handed everything over to his protege. The big change, for me, was going from 1-13 to 7-7.

So, while I agree that a coaching change can have huge impact and that Kubiak is going to do wonderful things for us, I think using the mid-70's Oilers as an analogy is a bit strained. I'd prefer to see this more as Marchibroda (Capers) to Billick (Kubiak) transition and get a SB out of the deal.

 

[TexanBorn51]

I always attributed "the change" to Sid Gillman. As far as I was concerned, Sid Gillman came in and got things moving in the right direction and then handed everything over to his protege. The big change, for me, was going from 1-13 to 7-7.

So, while I agree that a coaching change can have huge impact and that Kubiak is going to do wonderful things for us, I think using the mid-70's Oilers as an analogy is a bit strained. I'd prefer to see this more as Marchibroda (Capers) to Billick (Kubiak) transition and get a SB out of the deal.

Sounds good there but the first post here was will they be in what year in the playoffs poll within the next six years. I say this year most here have voted next year. That sounds promising and with that summary look at their losing record last year. Most feel they can turn it around within two years. That's going by the record of the polls not an analogy but one possiblity of a then team turning it around just for a playoff spot and with less divisons. Kinda like the underdog Jets and Namath declaring to go to the Super B and winning it.. Everyone said yeah sure right but they did. That's the way the Oilers were I was there in Houston from 65-72 (Class of 69, Lamar HS)and went to some games at the dome and Rice stadium and saw Earl UT play UH who later was the man who really turned it around probably didn't matter who was the coach then. Although not good enough for lousy Bud glad he left. When do you fire your coach when your one game away from the Super Bowl.

 

[TwinSisters]

I will add that Joe Bugel ( The "Hogs" creator ) also joined the crew in 1977. Plus in 75 they had Robert Brazile, Curly Culp, Bubba Smith, and Elvin on the D.

Brazile very well could get a lot of the credit for the shift. ( He was in the Pro Bowl for almost every single season he played, 7 for 10 )

 

[thunderkyss]

QBs get too much credit when things work and too much blame when things don't. It doesn't come down to who has the best QB, it comes down to the team who has the best team. Floyd Reese is a much better GM than Casserly ever was. Years of good drafts versus years of poor drafts will give Tennessee the edge, not a single player.

Doesn't help, when you have a probowler for a quarterback, and your team is swimming in mediocrity... then you sub him with a 7th round-lucky-to-be-drafted project QB who saw limited time in College...... and BAM...... they win 3 of the next 4 superbowls.. all of a sudden, they climb from mediocrity to the best team in the league.

 

[DocBar]

Doesn't help, when you have a probowler for a quarterback, and your team is swimming in mediocrity... then you sub him with a 7th round-lucky-to-be-drafted project QB who saw limited time in College...... and BAM...... they win 3 of the next 4 superbowls.. all of a sudden, they climb from mediocrity to the best team in the league.

Blind squirrels and acorns. There's a reason they call them one-in-a-million. Should everyone start playing their waterboy? That worked out pretty well for the Bourbon Bowl...HEY!!!! Not a bad bowl for the sAints to shoot for!!!!
And maybe the thumbtacks if they relocate to Lynchberg. And hadn't Bledsoe taken the Pats to the big game? Hardly mediocrity.

 

[thunderkyss]

Blind squirrels and acorns. There's a reason they call them one-in-a-million. Should everyone start playing their waterboy? That worked out pretty well for the Bourbon Bowl...HEY!!!! Not a bad bowl for the sAints to shoot for!!!!
And maybe the thumbtacks if they relocate to Lynchberg. And hadn't Bledsoe taken the Pats to the big game? Hardly mediocrity.

I just said it doesn't help when things like that happen in recent times.


I think it's time for someone's coffee.....

 

[DocBar]

I just said it doesn't help when things like that happen in recent times.


I think it's time for someone's coffee.....

That probably came across harsher than it was meant to be.And it's 2:30 PM where I am. Anyway, I wasn't trying to bust ya or anything. Sorry.

 

[bigbrewster2000]

The year after we let David Carr go. I also happen to think that the titans will reach the playoffs a lot sooner rather than later...I believe in Vince Young.

And I believe that you don't really contribute anything at all in any of your posts. When will you bring any real info to a thread besides DC hate?

 

[thunderkyss]

That probably came across harsher than it was meant to be.And it's 2:30 PM where I am. Anyway, I wasn't trying to bust ya or anything. Sorry.

wow...... so in your location where you have Humble, that isn't Humble Texas??


or do I need to reset my clock??

 

[bigbrewster2000]

wow...... so in your location where you have Humble, that isn't Humble Texas??


or do I need to reset my clock??

Actually he is in France right now, you must have missed his post that said that 1 or 2 days ago.

 

[Titan "Tack" Fan]

I CAN"T believe you just came to our MB's and said we'll lose to the cowpunks. That's disrespectful. You're off by 4wins. We SWEEP the thumbtacks, split with Jags(at worst), split with Indy and HAMMER the cowpunks.

You're not splitting with Indy. Sorry. I'm just being a realist here.

 

[rmartin65]

This year we will do okay, next year we will make it.

 

[DocBar]

You're not splitting with Indy. Sorry. I'm just being a realist here.

Oh yeah!!!! Write it down, mark your calender, send out the party invitiations. Don't bother with the broom, either. We'll bring our own to tackland.
:bananasplit:

 

[Titan "Tack" Fan]

Oh yeah!!!! Write it down, mark your calender, send out the party invitiations. Don't bother with the broom, either. We'll bring our own to tackland.
:bananasplit:

Come up for the Titans/Texans game. You can party with us after we win.

 

[jerek]

You're not splitting with Indy. Sorry. I'm just being a realist here.

I think it's possible we split with Indy this year. Now would I bet on it, as of today, July 11? No. But crazy things can happen, including injuries on Indy's side or, suppose we win a few games in a row? ... Momentum is something this team has never experienced, much less under a seasoned, successful coaching staff ... I think the Texans might stand to surprise a lot of people this year. I still don't see us surpassing 9 Ws, "realistically" speaking ... and probably more in the 6-8 rannge ... but right now there is a lot of potential that this squad is waiting to show the NFL this year.

 

[Titan "Tack" Fan]

I think it's possible we split with Indy this year. Now would I bet on it, as of today, July 11? No. But crazy things can happen, including injuries on Indy's side or, suppose we win a few games in a row? ... Momentum is something this team has never experienced, much less under a seasoned, successful coaching staff ... I think the Texans might stand to surprise a lot of people this year. I still don't see us surpassing 9 Ws, "realistically" speaking ... and probably more in the 6-8 rannge ... but right now there is a lot of potential that this squad is waiting to show the NFL this year.

Like I've said all along, I can't wait until it's the Titans and Texans ATOP the AFC south. The Colts are getting so old and lame and the Jags don't have a QB that is fun to watch.

I'd like to see the Titans go 13-3 and the Texans go 10-16, 11-5 every year. That would be nice. I'm tired of the Jags and Colts winning!

 

[srstex]

The Colts system has been exposed over the last few years and it suprises me that no-one is paying attenetion until the play offs. Show Manning the blitz- then don't, don't show him the blitz-then blitz, he gets confused every time. And once he sees the turf, he is on a 2 second throw count, just throw the timimg off by actually hitting the receivers on the line, and you got another sack. We can make the play offs THIS year. First we pluck the Eagles and off we go.