Re. Keenum......"Doubt him at your own risk"....

[PapaL]

I understand you dislike my opinion, but no need to be snarky about it. As for your argument, what the hell does it even mean? Foster was undrafted. I am sure though that because sooo many teams passed on him, he would never amount to crap amirite? Oh wait... What about that Tony Romo guy. True he is not a Brees, or Brady, or Manning, but he is still much better than Schaub IMO. How about Harrison or Fletcher? You remember that guy Welker who tore us up when the Pats trounced us twice? Your argument is crap and holds no water. Yates has not shown enough improvement for me during last year's TC. He still looks lost and not aggressive. I watched a lot of Keenum UH games to know that the kid has talent and considering how bad Schaub stunk it up towards the end last season, I have completely lost faith in him being the QB to actually lead us to the SB.

I'm questioning your flawed logic. No need to get all butt hurt about it. I personally don't give a damn who is the #1, #2, or #3 QB. I'm sure the coaching staff has a MUCH better insight into the situation than some blowhard on a message board.

You can't compare and undrafted RB to an undrafted QB. Totally different responsibilities. Totally different positions. But please go ahead and dazzle us all with how they're so similar.

Must be pretty tough to see Yates on bench behind Keenum's jock strap you're covering your eyes with. No one will argue that Schaub didn't stink it up but you sir/ma'am are showing your rear in this thread by comparing other undrafted positions to a QB. All based on what? A Kubes blurb saying the Practice Squad QB looked good w rookies and other PS players? Maybe he should have said we're in trouble. Schaub is garbage, lets skip this season.

Keep your day job buddy.

 

[EllisUnit]

I liked what i saw in Case in college, and he never looked like the prototypical college QB to me like a leinart, or a carr. If i had to pick one guy who i thought could be the next brees my pick would be case.

I dont see why so many on here are so down on the kid, he has passion which sometimes is just as good if not better than all world talent.

 

[PapaL]

I don't think it's a "down on the kid" thing. I think it's more of a lets be realistic, he's the PS QB for a reason. What he did in college means NOTHING in this league. Is he a great underdog story? Absolutely! As long as he's a Texan I will wish nothing but the best for him but let's not anoint him #1 based on what he did in college and/or versus undrafted rookies and PS players in May.

He's not 6th round pick Tom Brady. He's Practice Squad, QB #3. Until, IF, that ever changes let's stop with the he should replace Yates and Schaub. We all know BOTH Yates and Schaub were hand picked guys and he's "NEVER" wrong about QBs.

 

[EllisUnit]

I don't think it's a "down on the kid" thing. I think it's more of a lets be realistic, he's the PS QB for a reason. What he did in college means NOTHING in this league. Is he a great underdog story? Absolutely! As long as he's a Texan I will wish nothing but the best for him but let's not anoint him #1 based on what he did in college and/or versus undrafted rookies and PS players in May.

He's not 6th round pick Tom Brady. He's Practice Squad, QB #3. Until, IF, that ever changes let's stop with the he should replace Yates and Schaub. We all know BOTH Yates and Schaub were hand picked guys and he's "NEVER" wrong about QBs.

Not saying crown him the #1 just saying with his skill set and his passion for the game he has a chance is all i'm saying.

 

[Texan_Bill]

Kaep is 6'5", but both Brees and Wilson overcame height questions, which is one of the knocks on Keenum.

Geez.... I wasn't comparing all 4 with the same attribute (meaning just height). All 4 guys had other knocks against them such as they were also considered "system QB's". And yes Brees, Wilson and a couple of others have overcome height issues.

 

[Thorn]

The coaches say Keenum improved a lot over the off season. We'll all know in a few months if that is true or not. For any of us to say he either will or won't make something of himself in the NFL is premature. However I do think his "potential" is a hell of a lot higher than the other QBs we have.

 

[Premier]

what the hell does it even mean? Foster was undrafted. I am sure though that because sooo many teams passed on him, he would never amount to crap amirite? Oh wait... What about that Tony Romo guy. True he is not a Brees, or Brady, or Manning, but he is still much better than Schaub IMO. How about Harrison or Fletcher? You remember that guy Welker who tore us up when the Pats trounced us twice? I watched a lot of Keenum UH games to know that the kid has talent.

i never understand when people start rattling off names of udfa's that turned into stars to back their reasoning for seeing something in a undrafted guy.. yea some have panned out, you named like 6 or 7 guys. but thats 6-7 guys over the last sum-odd years among thousands and thousands and thousands of udfas who have come and gone without a blip in the NFLs radar. you like keenum, fine, its just a cheap tactic to bring up proven guys to try and justify your case for a guy you like.. i could start rooting for every 6th round qb and make claims that he is really a stud and then when people disagree with me i can always throw out that "what about tom brady, 3x super bowl champ".. thats basically what youre doing..

 

[chenjy9]

I'm questioning your flawed logic. No need to get all butt hurt about it. I personally don't give a damn who is the #1, #2, or #3 QB. I'm sure the coaching staff has a MUCH better insight into the situation than some blowhard on a message board.

How is my logic of flawed in hoping he develops because I have no faith in Schaub or Yates? Neither of them have proven they can carry our team when we need them to. I am simply hoping each time either of them played that they just don't mess up.

You can't compare and undrafted RB to an undrafted QB. Totally different responsibilities. Totally different positions. But please go ahead and dazzle us all with how they're so similar.

Might need new glasses sir. I also mentioned a few other positions.

Must be pretty tough to see Yates on bench behind Keenum's jock strap you're covering your eyes with. No one will argue that Schaub didn't stink it up but you sir/ma'am are showing your rear in this thread by comparing other undrafted positions to a QB. All based on what? A Kubes blurb saying the Practice Squad QB looked good w rookies and other PS players? Maybe he should have said we're in trouble. Schaub is garbage, lets skip this season.

Hey check out my post count and see how many posts I have about hoping Keenum take over. This is probably the first or second. My hope for Keenum comes from desperation for our QB position going into the future.

Keep your day job buddy.


While I know you are being sarcastic here, I will say thanks anyways. We all hope to keep our jobs.

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i never understand when people start rattling off names of udfa's that turned into stars to back their reasoning for seeing something in a undrafted guy.. yea some have panned out, you named like 6 or 7 guys. but thats 6-7 guys over the last sum-odd years among thousands and thousands and thousands of udfas who have come and gone without a blip in the NFLs radar. you like keenum, fine, its just a cheap tactic to bring up proven guys to try and justify your case for a guy you like.. i could start rooting for every 6th round qb and make claims that he is really a stud and then when people disagree with me i can always throw out that "what about tom brady, 3x super bowl champ".. thats basically what youre doing..

In my opinion it is a helluva lot smarter than automatically writing someone off simply because they went undrafted. Scouts being people as well, get things wrong too. Short of a precious few special talents, the entire draft is a gamble. You can never count someone out until they count themselves out. Yes people like Foster, Welker, Romo, Fletcher, Harrison, Thalmes (spelling?) are pipe dreams for every UDFA out there, but they exist and there is no reason to count someone else out because of the awful as crap reason that they went undrafted.

Also, not a huge Keenum fan. I have just given up on Schaub and not very hopeful on Yates.

 

[badboy]

I am looking at it a bit different in that with this offense, especially a much improved Oline plus a solid WR 2, either MS or TJ will be successful. Certainly Matt is better than Yates and Yates better than Keenum but I want to see younger guys overtake vets. That is how we develop a dynasty.

 

[Lucky]

Yes people like Foster, Welker, Romo, Fletcher, Harrison, Thalmes (spelling?) are pipe dreams for every UDFA out there...

OK, I'm stumped. Who does Thalmes play for? What position does he play?

Another outstanding UDFA was Antonio Gates.

 

[chenjy9]

OK, I'm stumped. Who does Thalmes play for? What position does he play?

Another outstanding UDFA was Antonio Gates.

I butchered it, it's Priest Holmes LOL. I just remembered the letters hlmes and for some reason typed Thalmes. He was a beast at UT.

 

[76Texan]

Right now Keenum is trying to make the 53-man roster.

 

[chenjy9]

Right now Keenum is trying to make the 53-man roster.

Which is why I had simply said I hope he develops, due to my lack of faith in Yates abilities and complete lack of faith in Schaub as our leader on the field.

 

[Speedy]

i never understand when people start rattling off names of udfa's that turned into stars to back their reasoning for seeing something in a undrafted guy.. yea some have panned out, you named like 6 or 7 guys. but thats 6-7 guys over the last sum-odd years among thousands and thousands and thousands of udfas who have come and gone without a blip in the NFLs radar. you like keenum, fine, its just a cheap tactic to bring up proven guys to try and justify your case for a guy you like.. i could start rooting for every 6th round qb and make claims that he is really a stud and then when people disagree with me i can always throw out that "what about tom brady, 3x super bowl champ".. thats basically what youre doing..

And I can name you a ton of 1st round picks that didn't amount to jack. Point being, none of us knows until these guys get on the field and do it...or not.