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Quincy cut by the 'Girls

Ok. I was wrong about Parcells. I'm not that familiar with LT and his problems because I just frankly didn't care about the Giants. But if the coach allowed it, knew about it then he was dead wrong.

Maybe he doesn't want to make the same mistake. Although there is no universe where you can compare Taylor's talent to Quincy's.
 
In a talent comparison of LT to Carter there was NEVER any doubt. Although I have never liked the Cowgirls it is a shame to see a man that was in a position of leadership faulter like that.

PS.... I do like the cowgirls better that the pathetic, underachiving, choking, Oilers. Once a punk Oiler, always a punk Oiler.
 
HowBoutThemCowboys! said:
No, No, No, No, No. My God NOOO!!!. Yesterday I bought a freakin Carter jersey. Im shocked, I just cant bear to believe it. I'm disgusted if Parcells actually did cut him. This reminds me of when Dallas cut Banks. This has to be a screw up. We'll see at the press conference, i'll be listening live on dallascowboys.com
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That was your fault for buying a jersey of someone who wasn't for sure going to start.


This is the best Cowboys news all year. :jam:
 
I'm not completely up-to-date with L.T.'s career. The question I have is how many times he tested positive for cocaine?...it's hard to cut a guy that has always passed a drug test.
 
The league was not doing drug testing in the 80's like they are today. He may never have been tested, or it may have come out "clean" if you know what I mean.
 
This was not a league drug test. It was a team drug test. That's why Mort said this might even be a bigger story than it is now.
 
BradK10 said:
Under the current CBA, teams can't give their own tests. Carter can rightfully sue the Cowboys.
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That's why Mort said this could turn into a big story if that is true.


I can't see them thinking they could keep this under wraps if they did test him and release him.
 
I wonder if his former teammates feel the same about him as Ricky Williams' teammates did. Considering both are no longer on the team because of drug use! :headbang:
 
99FirehawkTA said:
I dont see the logic in cuting him unless hes having a horrendous camp thus far. I mean, why cut the guy that helped you make it to the playoffs when no one thought you would.
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Perhaps they don't feel that Carter helped them make it to the playoffs? I think their opinion is that they made it to the playoffs despite having Carter at QB and Parcells isn't going to put up with that for long. He's not the kind of coach who expects his QB to win games. He only expects him not to lose them. Carter has never been a Parcells type QB. He's as inconsistent as the day is long. Tuna would rather have a more limited athelete who he can rely on to do only what's expected. Hence Vinny Testeverde is going to be the starter and Henson is going to be groomed in the manner Parcells wants.
 
perhaps parcells told jones that look quincy isn't a starting QB in the nfl...deal with it...and they cut him...no biggy...he didn't take them to the playoffs last year their defense did...testaverde was having a great year til pennington came back from his injury and there is no reason to believe that he can't regain his form now...the defense is better with wiley replacing ekuban...and with newman getting a year of experience on his belt...the o-line looks to be in better shape...and now they have a running game and a QB that doesn't throw picks left and right
 
Carter Failed a team drug test which may or may not have been leagal but he tested positive for Cowboy Candy so Billy Tuna Canned his arse. Too Bad so sad, Not. Cowpies have problems and it starts with Jerrah Jones. Cry me a river whilst I play the worlds smallest violin.
 
keyfro said:
...testaverde was having a great year til pennington came back from his injury and there is no reason to believe that he can't regain his form now...
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Um no, he wasn't. Testaverde led the Jets to 9 TD drives in 7 games last year. And the Jets have more talent on offense than the cowgirls do. True, the girl offense wasn’t in good shape with Wincy Carter, averaging 18 points/game. Replacing him with a 40 year old Testaverde won’t fix anything.
 
If, and I admit a may be a big if, the cowpies may be better with Vinny running them if he plays as well as he did last year.
 
Lazarus said:
So do the Tuna and JJ swallow their pride and TRY to resign the Chad (who already knows the system) or wait to see what QBs are around after the first couple of cuts?
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No. After Testeverde blows out a knee in preseason, the starting job will go to Drew Henson, who then will lead the Cowboys to the Super Bowl. lol: :rofl: lol:
 
Marcus said:
No. After Testeverde blows out a knee in preseason, the starting job will go to Drew Henson, who then will lead the Cowboys to the Super Bowl. lol: :rofl: lol:
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Nightmarish thought having such a QB situation in a Superbowl run. The thought of getting Chad back would be more a matter of last resort that hopefully won't happen. If for some reason Chad is asked to return and Vinny is injured, then we can probably chalk this season up as 8-8 at best. I don't think I would wish that situation on the Eagles.
 
I think the Cowboys are in a tough spot even if they still had Quincy as a starter. The NFC East is vastly improved from last year, and they'd do great to win 8 or 9 games with Carter. The Redskins will be much better under Joe Gibbs who only has one losing season in his NFL career (7-9), and the Eagles are much better with McNabb having TO to throw to. The Giants will be improved, but they'll still have the worse record in the division. Testaverde will struggle, no doubt, but I feel that Parcells has a better knowledge of Vinny than any other coach he's played under. Vinny's best years were with Parcells coaching the Jets, and I think Vinny will do well with Parcells in Dallas. That being said, he is still turning 41 in November, and age will be a factor. He won't put up big numbers, but he'll manage the game effectively and that is all that the Tuna asks out of his QB. This could be the year that the Texans have the best record out of the two Texas clubs.
 
Lucky said:
Um no, he wasn't. Testaverde led the Jets to 9 TD drives in 7 games last year. And the Jets have more talent on offense than the cowgirls do. True, the girl offense wasn’t in good shape with Wincy Carter, averaging 18 points/game. Replacing him with a 40 year old Testaverde won’t fix anything.
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He completed 62% of his passes for 1385 with 7td and 2 ints. I would argue the jets have more talent than the Cowboys did last. They also ran the same O they did when Pennington was in there and that does not fit Vinny.
 
Joe Texan said:
Carter Failed a team drug test which may or may not have been leagal but he tested positive for Cowboy Candy so Billy Tuna Canned his arse. Too Bad so sad, Not. Cowpies have problems and it starts with Jerrah Jones. Cry me a river whilst I play the worlds smallest violin.
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Hey Joe,


Considering I live here in Houston and you are fan of the year and might have some pull. Do me a favor and help keep your drunk driving Texans off the road. :headbang:
 
jdevall said:
how come the 'Boys always end up in motels or caught doing drugs??????
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Name me 5 players while Cowboys that were caught for drugs or in hotel rooms.
 
jdevall said:
they're stuck with cruddy Testaverde at QB with Parcells kicking their only good qb off the team!
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Good QB? You must not watch to many Cowboys games.
 
:jam: i'm just loving this. i'm convinced a buddy of mine who is a huge cowboys fan just bought a q carter jersey....and now he has to put it in the closet of shame with other "dopers" like irvin, newton, lett, harper, etc....never to be worn again.

but in talking to that buddy of mine an intresting question arose...is he even talented enough to make the texans roster? i'm thinking NO. i know carter already has played enough to not be eligible for the practice squad but PERHAPS....casserly could find a loop hole to get carter in there. maybe he could hold the ball for field goals? perhaps he could serve as a drug councelor for our players on how not to @*%$ up your life? maybe we could find a new mascot postion for him?

today has been a great day... :headbang:
 
I know of 3 right off the top of my head:

Leon Lett
Michael Irvin
Peppi Zellner
 
powda said:
:jam: i'm just loving this. i'm convinced a buddy of mine who is a huge cowboys fan just bought a q carter jersey....and now he has to put it in the closet of shame with other "dopers" like irvin, newton, lett, harper, etc....never to be worn again.

but in talking to that buddy of mine an intresting question arose...is he even talented enough to make the texans roster? i'm thinking NO. i know carter already has played enough to not be eligible for the practice squad but PERHAPS....casserly could find a loop hole to get carter in there. maybe he could hold the ball for field goals? perhaps he could serve as a drug councelor for our players on how not to @*%$ up your life? maybe we could find a new mascot postion for him?

today has been a great day... :headbang:
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He is not good enough to make the Texasn roster. He would have been 3rd string on a lot of NFL rosters and 2nd on a few.


I was listening to the ticket out of Dallas when the news broke and they said there were 3 guys standing in front of them that had just bought Q jerseys few minutes before.
 
SESupergenius said:
I know of 3 right off the top of my head:

Leon Lett
Michael Irvin
Peppi Zellner
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Not Zellner. It was not his. You can believe that or not but he was not charge.
 
Fiddy said:
What about that offensive lineman from a couple of years ago?
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If you're talking about Newton, he was not a Cowboy. He was a ex Cowboy/Panther.

Cowboys can't control players if they are playing for another team or are retired.
 
I dont think it was Newton, it is someone else. This guy had marijuana problem. This is going to drive me crazy...
 
Yeah right. It was his brothers. plleeeeezzzz.

how about:
Thomas "Hollywood" Henderson and Sherman Williams
 
It was Erik Williams, wow thats 5 without even trying.
 
SESupergenius said:
It was Erik Williams, wow thats 5 without even trying.
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I think that is him. Thank you, SES. That's 5. We should do this again in the near future.
 
I'm sorry that I don't have anythng more constructive to add to the thread but.........

chicagotexan said:
I knew he wasn't really hurt on the field. He was just trying to snort the 50 yrd line.
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:lol: ^THAT^ was funny!!! I'm just glad that I had just put down the bottle of water I was drinking. I could have seen it coming through my nose for sure. :rofl:
 
DFAN said:
He is not good enough to make the Texasn roster. He would have been 3rd string on a lot of NFL rosters and 2nd on a few.
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Yada yada yada. It wasn't but a few months ago that Quicy led them to the playoffs, was a 60% passer blah blah blah. Funny how Cowpuke fans were rallying behind not too far back, and now don't even want to associate their backs with his name. Funny how they were selling those jerseys right up until today, even though "he was not good enough to make the Texans rosters"
lol:
 
DFAN said:
I would argue the jets have more talent than the Cowboys did last. They also ran the same O they did when Pennington was in there and that does not fit Vinny.
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Don't argue with me that the Jets have more talent on offense than the girls. I said as much in my post above. And why would the Jets offense not "fit" Vinny, anyway?

Say what you want about Testaverde's stats...the guy led the team to 9 total TD's in 7 starts. The Jets averaged less than 16 pts/game with Vinny as the starter. With Carter at QB, Dallas averaged over 18 pts/game. So do you really expect a year older Testaverde to go to a less talented team and put more points on the board than he did a season earlier? He's a caretaker who isn't capable of making winning plays. Who's going to make plays for Dallas? Eddie George? Keyshawn Johnson? I'm sorry, but the cowgirl offense was bad last season with Carter and there's no reason to think it will be any different with Testaverde at QB.

I take that back...I'm not really sorry. ;)
 
DFAN said:
I was listening to the ticket out of Dallas when the news broke and they said there were 3 guys standing in front of them that had just bought Q jerseys few minutes before.
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Sorry, but I almost fell out of my chair reading that. :rofl:
 
There is certainly a case to be made that the Cowboys are better off with Testaverde as the QB for the time being. Parcells doesn't ask his QB to win games for him, but merely not to lose them for him. I think undoubtedly that Testaverde is better at "not losing" a game for his team than Carter ever was. I don't believe there is anyone who better understand the limitations of Testaverde than Bill Parcells, and I think he can help him be very successful. However, I don't think Vinny will become a gunslinger or a 300yard/game guy. I wouldn't discount George just yet. Parcells has a history of taking RBs who are "on the downside of their career" and squeezing out another year or two of production. All that being said, I don't believe that the Cowboys will even approach the record they had last year. They're division is much tougher, and their defense has already been dealt a blow in Woodson.
 
SESupergenius said:
Yada yada yada. It wasn't but a few months ago that Quicy led them to the playoffs, was a 60% passer blah blah blah. Funny how Cowpuke fans were rallying behind not too far back, and now don't even want to associate their backs with his name. Funny how they were selling those jerseys right up until today, even though "he was not good enough to make the Texans rosters"
lol:
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Don't confuse me with Q apologist. Ask one of your own(gr8fan)he'll tell you how I felt about Q.
 
Lucky said:
Don't argue with me that the Jets have more talent on offense than the girls. I said as much in my post above. And why would the Jets offense not "fit" Vinny, anyway?

Say what you want about Testaverde's stats...the guy led the team to 9 total TD's in 7 starts. The Jets averaged less than 16 pts/game with Vinny as the starter. With Carter at QB, Dallas averaged over 18 pts/game. So do you really expect a year older Testaverde to go to a less talented team and put more points on the board than he did a season earlier? He's a caretaker who isn't capable of making winning plays. Who's going to make plays for Dallas? Eddie George? Keyshawn Johnson? I'm sorry, but the cowgirl offense was bad last season with Carter and there's no reason to think it will be any different with Testaverde at QB.

I take that back...I'm not really sorry. ;)
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It was a dink and dunk O. West Coast kind of. Vinny is not a WC QB. Pennington couldn't run Vinnys O that's why they changed it to fit Pennington style.


I'm arguing with a Texan fan about the Cowboys O being bad. Let's talk about Carr.
 
Hey, I think Vinny will do great with the offense. We got Larry Allen who has been doing great in camp and in off season conditioning, we got last year's pro bowler Flozel Adams, we got tight end Witten who has also improved, we improved our recieving core with Keyshawn Johnson, we got second round pick Julius Jones, and Eddie George as a short yardage guy and as a solid backup to Jones. Vinny will probaly play a couple of seasons, then when he retires we got the now expirenced Drew Henson to take the helm.
 
SESupergenius said:
Yeah right. It was his brothers. plleeeeezzzz.

how about:
Thomas "Hollywood" Henderson and Sherman Williams
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Were they Cowboys at the time? I know for a fact Williams wasn't. Henderson admitted he was so I'll give you that one. You went old school me. Nice.
 
Fiddy said:
I dont think it was Newton, it is someone else. This guy had marijuana problem. This is going to drive me crazy...
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I would say getting busted with 200+lbs of marijuana is a problem.
 
DFAN said:
I'm arguing with a Texan fan about the Cowboys O being bad. Let's talk about Carr.
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What arguement? We both agree that the Dallas offense was bad, right? What we're in disagreement is over whether it will get better or not.

Want to start a thread about Carr, be my guest. Just post it in the Bullpen.
 
DFAN said:
I'm arguing with a Texan fan about the Cowboys O being bad. Let's talk about Carr.
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Competing with a 3rd year franchise who's O and D looked pretty good against the Boys in 02. At least the Texans have two things over Big D's QB situation. 1. We know who are starter is. 2. We don't have to stock up on the Ensure.
 
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