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Question for Texans fans

I remember when I was an Oilers fan....

I miss the days when I complained!

I can honestly say that I have been with the team since day 1. I bought the PSL's when they went on sale in 2002. I have been in the Bullpen rooting for my team. I pay for my tickets and express myself however I want. I am just happy to have a team to call my own. Last time I complained or cried my team left town! I am not taking this one for granted! I am here through thick and thin, so if we get Bush or Young or whoever else, I am there. I will never lose my seats! I love my team! Texans can count on me! (I have to, I got a Texans Tattoo!)
 
Agree with the premise of your post regarding fans, but you incorrectly assume that anyone who wants VY must be either a Longhorn or a bad fan.

If VY had just led Montana State to the national championship then I'd still be saying to take VY (or trade the pick), simply because with every shred of my being I don't believe David Carr can or will ever lead this team to a Super Bowl, regardless of coaching or what players are around him.

And by the way, it doesn't make me any less of a Texans fan for feeling that way. If David Carr trots out there next year as QB then I'll be the first to hope he does well because Houston is my team. I just don't think he's our long term solution.

What's humorous to me are the Texans fans who say that if we draft VY then we're essentially "starting over". Guess what? We were 2-14 last year. We're starting over anyway, and the only way things can go is up!

Peace.
 
Texans_Chick said:
LOL.

This is why the only SEC team in a BCS bowl, Georgia lost to West Virginia in the freaking Georgia Dome. Word. :)

Teams in the SEC beat each other up, and the same happens in the Big 12. The argument you make might have relevance if Texas played in a really goofy conference but it doesn't. And it doesn't explain the difference in VY and Jones' stats.

Texas beat two teams that ended up in the Top 5, and 4 teams total in the top 25. Who else did you want them to defeat this year--Chuck Norris???? :superman:

Beating up on teams like Baylor, Colorado (X2), LA Laffyette, and Rice does not impress me. Beating ****** teams is overrated.

I hope I wasn't misunderstood, having people think that I think M. Jones is better than VY. I think VY is a much better athlete, and for the most part, a better QB than Jones. Jones made the right decision switching to WR. I just think that, for me at least, it's hard to be impressed with what VY did against lousy teams. The only impressive win all year, besides the Nat'l Championship was Thee Ohio St. They beat three ranked teams all year; 4 - Thee Ohio St., 10 - Texas Tech, 1 - USC. That's according to http://www.mackbrown-texasfootball.com/index.php?s=&url_channel_id=&url_article_id=1874&change_well_id=2. So, again I say, woopty friggin' doo.

Now, I'll admit, I'm not a fan of the Big 12 football. My favorite teams in college FB are Fresno State (big suprise there, but I've been going to all home games since I was 5), Georgia, & Auburn, and Arvy-Nvy. I do like UT basketball though, big TJ Ford fan.
 
I hardly ever watch NFL these days only NCAA for the most part. So you can say what you want but I would drive from Austin to Houston for every Texans home game just to watch Vince Young play in person again. And I would be willing to bet you would have tens of thousands of Texas Longhorn fans that would echo that very same response. After Saturday's round of college football you would see the great migration from Austin to Houston. :)
 
I would drive from Houston to Austin (or Dallas, whichever) just to see the Horns beat a legitimate OU team.

I know it's been forever since your football team didn't choke away the big one prior to this year's Rose Bowl, but let's not pretend that "tens of thousands" of Austinites would drive here from wherever to see Vince Young play.
 
TexanBacker93 said:
Does anyone here really think that the team really cares what a handful of fans think should be done? Do you think the team really worries about "stealing" fans from the Cowboys by bringing in a Longhorn? Honestly, if it were that easy to get those fans, I doubt the team would want them. The Texans will do what they feel is best for the long term success of the franchise. Considering they have men who have spent their entire lives evaluating players, coaching players, and the Texans fans are comprised of a bunch of people that maybe played some in High School or college I think they will probably stick with the guys getting paid to make the decisions.

If the Texans start winning, fans will fill the seats. It won't matter if Young goes on to become the greatest ever. One man doesn't make a team. He could be the next Dan Marino and never see a ring. I'd rather have a team in the playoffs/Super Bowl each year than the next Dan Marino. That's not to say Bush is the next coming of Sanders or Sayers or whoever. I think the most important thing to get fans is to win.

I see people being called losers because they refuse to stop following the Texans if the team passes on Young. I must disagree. I fail to see what that will accomplish. Fans can be disenchanted, they can dislike moves a team makes, but on a grand scale fans don't have much say. Granted, fans can refuse to go to games as they did last season and that was a big reason Capers lost his job. There is a big difference between accepting failure and standing by the team. If I had a say in the matter it might be different, but there are only a few things I can do as a fan to show my displeasure.

Giving up game tickets...
I've paid good money for tickets, I love the game, so why would I avoid going? I don't have the income to just not use my seats and I think it's absurd to skip going to a game that you've paid money for because you are upset with the team. The team has already got the money so that won't hurt them too much.

Season Tickets...
I could not renew my tickets. I have seats in the Southern End Zone (shady side) 5 rows from the field, though. I've had these seats since they first went on sale and been to every game since preseason game 1 against the Dolphins. I'm not going to lose those seats to make a point. It will be next to impossible to get those back in a few years when they start winning.

Other costs...
I can go to the games and not buy merchandise or concessions. I don't really do much of this anyways. It's costly and since I tailgate I don't need food in the stadium. This gets impacted mostly when the stadium is half empty so I guess not showing up can do some damage. Still, from me, they gain nothing here.

Stop rooting altogether...
There have been scientific studies, but no proof that rooting actually influences a game one way or another. Making loud noise during certain times can disrupt a team, but you can do that without rooting. I mean come on, if rooting actually made a difference the Sacramento Kings would have multiple NBA Championships. Those fans are incredible even when the team is awful.

Pick a new team...
How do you go about picking a new team anyways? Do you use spreadsheets? Do you make a list of pros and cons? I can understand people watching the Titans or Cowboys because of their history. I can understand people rooting for a team from their home area. I still have a soft spot for the Broncos after growing up in Colorado. I live in Houston now, though, so that's the team for me.

Threaten to jump off a roof...
While this might get on the news, I don't think McNair would let me make the decisions based on this. He might say he will and then once I'm in a Psych Hospital they'd do what they were going to do anyways.

I realize this is rambling. It's late and I can't sleep. Kobe just dropped 81 on the Raptors and I have to be up for work in 4 hours.

I do think the team logo is designed to attract Longhorn fans and compete for the Cowboy fan base.

Our mascot is a bull, similar to a Longhorns. Our helmet has the horns on it, similar to the Longhorns. And then there is the Texas star, similar to the Cowboys star.

Maybe these are just coincindences, but that is how I viewed it when I first saw them unviel the uniforms.

Also, the team name is the Texans. Texans or Texas Longhorns, there are some big similarities here.

I think from the beginning they wanted to attract Texas Longhorn and Dallas Cowboy fans, rooting for these teams are not mutually exclusive all the time.
 
jerek said:
If you read a lot of these threads, you will see a handful of people "threatening" to do exactly that. I say "threaten" because they talk about it as if we are anyone in the Texans front office should be intimidated or impressed by it: this isn't a surprise, we/they are not.

A minority, sure, but a minority that I was addressing with that statement.
they are a tiny minority at that. We see a ton of anonymous new posters slinging these "threats" around but you sure don't see many "established" (I use that term with a grain but we can only establish a person as a fan if we see them post) fans making these silly threats. I’ve been watching this board for five years or so and these guys come and go. As for myself, I still hope we draft Vince Young (but don’t think we will) but I’m not new to our little party and I said I thought he would be a superstar QB in the NFL before he became a national NFL first-round QB prospect.
 
maisis00 said:
I would drive from Austin to Houston for every Texans home game just to watch Vince Young play in person again.

You'll be able to see him play in Houston once a year after the Titans pick him up....not ideal, but not too bad.
 
coreyvice said:
You'll be able to see him play in Houston once a year after the Titans pick him up....not ideal, but not too bad.


Titans are not going to go after Young, They are really leaning into Leinart from USC. I think Young will go around the 7-10 pick and I believe it is probably going to be the RAIDERS that claim that guy.
 
Bearfan Blue and Orange said:
Titans are not going to go after Young, They are really leaning into Leinart from USC. I think Young will go around the 7-10 pick and I believe it is probably going to be the RAIDERS that claim that guy.
Won't that be ironic? Texas Young playing in Cali and USC Bush Playing in Texas... :yahoo:
 
Bearfan Blue and Orange said:
Titans are not going to go after Young, They are really leaning into Leinart from USC. I think Young will go around the 7-10 pick and I believe it is probably going to be the RAIDERS that claim that guy.


...where he can settle into the overrated prospects dustbin of NFL history.
 
Bearfan Blue and Orange said:
Titans are not going to go after Young, They are really leaning into Leinart from USC. I think Young will go around the 7-10 pick and I believe it is probably going to be the RAIDERS that claim that guy.


This exact scenario if what I hope will happen!yahoo:

This way, I will see my TEXANS more because of the soon to be Great President REGGIE and VY in two years playing the Chargers!

Lets go TEXANS! :redtowel:

Here's to BUSH in 2006 Draft...:party:
 
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