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I can't think of any team that's done that in recent memory. Unless you want to include the sign & trade of Henson (who was a draft pick) to Dallas.
That's one that came to mind.
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I can't think of any team that's done that in recent memory. Unless you want to include the sign & trade of Henson (who was a draft pick) to Dallas.
Pickin's are getting slim for a reasonably promising backup QB..............Anybody thinking that we may sign Gray for the sole purpose of turning around and marketing him for a 3rd round pick? Once the draft is completed, it becomes pretty late to be trying to get a "quality" backup in. Certainly waiting until roster cuts begin is even chancier. Therefore, if Gray may be considered a semblance of a quality backup, then there will be someone out there interested in turning a deal.
The best of both worlds..............definitely hang on to Sage and get the 3rd rounder.
sage is worth a 2nd, nothing less, this will open up the 3rd to be used on a qb, is anyone high on henne? i think he could be a steal
This reads like something out of the Texans PR department. "Now" the Texans will carry 3 QBs? "Now" Quinn Gray will agree to become a 3rd stringer, after being a backup last season? "At this point", I don't think Rosenfels will be traded, either. But if and when the Texans sign Gray, you can bet the deal for Sage is in the oven.Everyone knows Jacksonville quarterback Quinn Gray feels comfortable at Reliant Stadium. After all, he threw for 302 yards and four touchdowns against the team in the season finale.
Now, he will visit the Texans as a free agent. The Texans are looking to possibly carry three quarterbacks this season. The past two seasons, they have carried only two. But because of all in the injuries around the league last season, it has become clear that having a third quarterback isn't such a bad idea.
Now, Quinn would seem more likely to sign with a team where he is going to be a No. 2 though. He started four games last season and won two of them. The only way he could become a No. 2 in Houston is if the Texans were made an offer they couldn't refuse for Sage Rosenfels.
Minnesota already offered them a third round pick for Sage, so he could backup to Tarvaris Jackson. With the Texans bringing in Gray, the speculation is going to increase about whether or not Rosenfels will be traded.
At this point, I don't think the Texans expect Rosenfels to be going anywhere. He is too valuable to a team that is still unsure just how many games Matt Schaub can play in a season. Because of injuries, Schaub missed five starts and left four other games early. But as the draft gets closer, if a team surprises the Texans with an offer that's hard to refuse, Gray could be their backup plan.
This reads like something out of the Texans PR department. "Now" the Texans will carry 3 QBs? "Now" Quinn Gray will agree to become a 3rd stringer, after being a backup last season? "At this point", I don't think Rosenfels will be traded, either. But if and when the Texans sign Gray, you can bet the deal for Sage is in the oven.
Megan Manful isn't even Megan Quarterteaspoonfull. I hope she reads this and starts providing something other than press release material. Either that or team up with another Ball Girl and have lots of photo opps because she is useless otherwise.
wow if we can trade sage for even a third round pick and have gray as our backup id do it in a heartbeat. gray played well in jacksonville and his receivers werent exactly andre johnson and andre davis.
what do you guys about bringing culpepper in as a backup if we trade sage?
The Texans won't sign Gray unless Sage is dealt. That's the reality of the situation. I guess the Vikings looksee at Gus Frerotte pushed the Texans to reconsider this deal.
I would prefer Rosenfels to Gray as the Texans backup QB. He's a known quantity who has had success in this system. But, I can understand why Smith & Kubiak are contemplating the move. The Texans have done well in free agency with the limited resources they've been willing to use. This is not the year to break the bank in free agency. But, this team still needs more talent and depth. An additional 3rd rounder could be used on a situational pass rusher or a FS of future.
I'm sure Kubiak is thinking about Gray's performance in Week 17 against the Texans. He was the best QB on the field that day, throwing 4 TD passes. Gray has always been a strong-armed pocket passer, whose accuracy and decision making have been questioned. Gray answered those questions in that game.
I don't know if Sage will be traded or not. If so, I'll always admire him for how he's handled being the backup QB here. He never complained about his status even when he had preformed at a high level in the '06 preseason. Nor last season, when he stepped in for Schaub and helped the Texans to their 1st non-losing season. Sage would be missed, but he's deserving of an opportunity to start in the NFL. And he and his agent have probably told Smith and Kubiak as much, in private. Here's hoping that things work out well for all parties involved.
Article in the chronicle says The "Texans are looking to possibly carry three quarterbacks next season - something they haven't done the past two seasons under coach Gary Kubiak."
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/fb/texansfront/5637424.html
Of course they are going to say that, they would lose leverage in trade talks if teams didnt believe we were serious about keeping 3 QB's. Makes you wonder if Kubes & or Smith are blowing some smoke. Does anyone beleive we would carry 3 QB's?
Its easy. Ask yourself, what would be better for the team?
Sage
or
Gray and a 3rd round pick? Before you answer think about who we have drafted in the third round over the years.
I know that I may be the only one thinking that it if we pick Quinn up there is potentially a surprise deal that includes dangling a Quinn package somewhere down the line rather than a Sage package. I'm still thinking that Smithiak still wants a known secure commodity this season at their #2 position. Hold the tomatoes, please.
I don't know if I agree with that. I think Manfull has talked to the Texans, but can't get anyone to go on the record. They're telling her that they may carry 3 QBs and that no deals are imminent. Megan's just carrying the water for the Texans. McClain does this all the time.Quoting Megan as a source is about a relavent as quoting anyone here. Please reread what she wrote, she has not talked to anyone within the Texans organization for her conclusion about anything.
Megan Manful isn't even Megan Quarterteasponfull. I hope she reads this and starts providing something other than press release material. Either that or team up with another Ball Girl and have lots of photo opps because she is useless otherwise.
Matt Forte offers more height, weight and same speed, I prefer him, if available.How bout we sign Gray and trade Sage and a fifth for minnesota's second and draft Ray Rice with that pick. This would only happen of course if Rice is available in the second round.
I don't know if I agree with that. I think Manfull has talked to the Texans, but can't get anyone to go on the record. They're telling her that they may carry 3 QBs and that no deals are imminent. Megan's just carrying the water for the Texans. McClain does this all the time.
The fact is that we don't get honest analysis from the local rag, as you would get in Boston or New York. Or even Dallas (as much as it hurts to type that). Don't get me wrong, the Chronic has improved in its coverage of the Texans over the years. In volume, anyway. They still employ 2nd string journalists, so we're going to get 2nd string information. Ask yourself why does PFT beat the Chronic to the Gray visit? Is it because the writers at the Chronic are lazy, or are they asked to sit on news by the Texans?
If said team wanted Quinn why wouldn't the just sign him now?
I don't know if I agree with that. I think Manfull has talked to the Texans, but can't get anyone to go on the record. They're telling her that they may carry 3 QBs and that no deals are imminent. Megan's just carrying the water for the Texans. McClain does this all the time.
The fact is that we don't get honest analysis from the local rag, as you would get in Boston or New York. Or even Dallas (as much as it hurts to type that). Don't get me wrong, the Chronic has improved in its coverage of the Texans over the years. In volume, anyway. They still employ 2nd string journalists, so we're going to get 2nd string information. Ask yourself why does PFT beat the Chronic to the Gray visit? Is it because the writers at the Chronic are lazy, or are they asked to sit on news by the Texans?
A lot of the debate here regarding a possible Sage trade is whether the Texans are getting value, and if it is worth the risk. I get that, but another important element in this is the possible pressure Rosenfels and his agent are placing on the Texans to do the deal. Sage has been a good soldier in his Texan career. That could change if the Texans block his chance at a starting NFL job. Ask yourself whether you would want to compete against Matt Schaub or Tarvaris Jackson? And at 30 years of age, Rosenfels has maybe one opportunity left to get a decent (in NFL terms) contract. Without a real chance at the Texans starting job,a team where he could compete, and a new contract, how could Sage be his usual positive self come training camp?
The Texans are looking to possibly carry three quarterbacks this season.
With the Texans bringing in Gray, the speculation is going to increase about whether or not Rosenfels will be traded.
I think Manfull has talked to the Texans, but can't get anyone to go on the record. They're telling her that they may carry 3 QBs and that no deals are imminent. Megan's just carrying the water for the Texans. McClain does this all the time.
I agree and wonder if McClains comments over the Mario/Vince/Reggie selection impacted his new reduced status. He did seem to carry a torch for a while.I agree with most of your post, but want to make one observation. Since Kubiak has come to town, McClain's writing in particular has changed. In circumstances like you suggest, he used to say "sources with the team" or some such anonymous reference to having actually spoken to someone (**cough**Casserly**cough**). Since the last piece of the regime change was completed, those references to having an anonymous source have largely dried up. I don't think he or the Chronicle folks generally are getting the access they used to.
I think you are correct and I also think that McClain doesn't really have a good eye or feel for the sport....he just has good sources and contacts that give him his opinions (basically I think his journalism skills are better than his eye for the game). Over the years his ability to critically break down football games/personnel/strategy without piggy backing on some 'inside scoop' has been lacking.I agree with most of your post, but want to make one observation. Since Kubiak has come to town, McClain's writing in particular has changed. In circumstances like you suggest, he used to say "sources with the team" or some such anonymous reference to having actually spoken to someone (**cough**Casserly**cough**). Since the last piece of the regime change was completed, those references to having an anonymous source have largely dried up. I don't think he or the Chronicle folks generally are getting the access they used to.
I think you are correct and I also think that McClain doesn't really have a good eye or feel for the sport....he just has good sources and contacts that give him his opinions (basically I think his journalism skills are better than his eye for the game). Over the years his ability to critically break down football games/personnel/strategy without piggy backing on some 'inside scoop' has been lacking.
Anybody see Richard Justice's article in the Chron today? He basically says that trading a strength on your team to fill a weakness on another part of your team is not a step in the right direction.?
But he can sure spin a good tale and make funny videos with Anna Megan!
That's what a lot of casual fans seem to want....and 'guy talk' radio, of course.
...then she spoke with someone. She typically doesn't stray too far from the quote sheet and that's about as much stepping out on a limb or quasi-independent thought that you'll ever see in one of her articles.The Texans are looking to possibly carry three quarterbacks this season.
Former Jacksonville quarterback Quinn Gray, said Sunday that he plans to sign a one-year contract with the Texans.
Gray, who has visited Green Bay and Oakland, said after arriving at George Bush International Airport that he has another visit lined up in Buffalo but doesn't plan to take it.
"I don't plan on leaving here," Gray said today. "I'm ready to sign. We've been talking on the phone, and now I'm going to meet face to face with Coach (Gary) Kubiak and coach (offensive coordinator) Kyle Shanahan."
"My agent (Drew Rosenhaus) has an agreement in place. It's a one-year deal."
Frerotte left Minnesota without a deal. That may signal that the Vikings are preparing to make the trade for Sage. Most teams want to get their new QBs into their facilities ASAP so they can pickup the system and interact with the players. If the Vikings are the team that's targeting Sage, I expect something in the next week.http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/5641676.html
How long till the other shoe drops?
Frerotte left Minnesota without a deal. That may signal that the Vikings are preparing to make the trade for Sage. Most teams want to get their new QBs into their facilities ASAP so they can pickup the system and interact with the players. If the Vikings are the team that's targeting Sage, I expect something in the next week.
Gray will sign a one year deal. So it's possible that the Texans could carry 3 QBs this season if they decide to spend a late choice on a prospect that fits the system. Oregon's Dennis Dixon & Tulsa's Paul Smith are a couple that come to mind.
Gray, who has visited Green Bay and Oakland, said after arriving at George Bush Interconential Airport that he has another visit lined up in Buffalo but doesn't plan to take it. The Texans are giving Gray a one-year deal worth $635,000, including $40,000 to sign