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Pre-season 8/17/2013, Game 2 vs Dolphins: Top 5 things you are interested in seeing?

texanhead08 said:
I'm interested in seeing the preseason end. It seems like each year it pisses me off more and more that the NFL makes us pay for 2 meaningless glorified practices with our season ticket packages.
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I'm going to tread lightly here as not to piss anyone off....

But I think it was Bill Polian that made a good point. He said that the costs really balance out. As a season ticket holder the price is the same across the board...the price on all the tickets is the same. So you're paying the same for a pre-season game that you're paying for a high profile game against a good team.

He wondered if people would feel better about it if say a pre season ticket had $100 on it, but that Sunday night game against high profile team A had $350 on it.

Anyways, I just thought it was an interesting perspective.
 
Rey said:
I'm going to tread lightly here as not to piss anyone off....

But I think it was Bill Polian that made a good point. He said that the costs really balance out. As a season ticket holder the price is the same across the board...the price on all the tickets is the same. So you're paying the same for a pre-season game that you're paying for a high profile game against a good team.

He wondered if people would feel better about it if say a pre season ticket had $100 on it, but that Sunday night game against high profile team A had $350 on it.

Anyways, I just thought it was an interesting perspective.
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I was going to post this but no offense he said it a little better than that. He said he wished they would stop printing any price on the tickets because what you are buying is a package of tickets of varying values. Yes the pre-season tickets are worth less but then right now there are tickets which would be sold for over "face value" as well. He's right. Right now you could probably draw a premium on Baltimore, Seahawks, 49ers, Patriots and Broncos at least.
 
infantrycak said:
I was going to post this but no offense he said it a little better than that. He said he wished they would stop printing any price on the tickets because what you are buying is a package of tickets of varying values. Yes the pre-season tickets are worth less but then right now there are tickets which would be sold for over "face value" as well. He's right. Right now you could probably draw a premium on Baltimore, Seahawks, 49ers, Patriots and Broncos at least.
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If I'm not a season ticket holder, go to the ticket office and want to buy a ticket to a preaseason game, will I be charged the full price, or a discounted "preseason" price? To me, that answers all the questions. It's ridiculous that preseason games are priced at the same level as regular season.

EDIT: I fully understand the "whole package" argument. But that should only apply to regular season. There you play "Jacksonvilles" and "New Englands", and those games certainly have different values. Preseason games are not anywhere close in value to the worst regular season game.
 
paycheck71 said:
If I'm not a season ticket holder, go to the ticket office and want to buy a ticket to a preaseason game, will I be charged the full price, or a discounted "preseason" price? To me, that answers all the questions. It's ridiculous that preseason games are priced at the same level as regular season.

EDIT: I fully understand the "whole package" argument. But that should only apply to regular season. There you play "Jacksonvilles" and "New Englands", and those games certainly have different values. Preseason games are not anywhere close in value to the worst regular season game.
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This is a season ticket holder only issue. If you choose to go up to the ticket office and pay the face value that is on you. The ire is over having to buy them. Polian's point is value. Maybe the preseason tickets are worth nothing in the marketplace (although we have seen them go for most or full face value here) but then again you might get a 500% return on the Patriots which pays in total for the perceived lack of value of the preseason tickets.

You don't get to decide what is in the package. The Texans offer it, just like every other team in the league, for exactly what it sounds like - the whole season. People really should save their stress and look at it as they paid $1000 for the season.
 
I just don't understand why team GM's and Head Coaches that get paid millions of dollars need 4 games to evaluate basically 10 roster spots. Its not a secret that you basically know who will be on your team except the bottom 10 spots on the roster each year.
 
infantrycak said:
This is a season ticket holder only issue. If you choose to go up to the ticket office and pay the face value that is on you. The ire is over having to buy them. Polian's point is value. Maybe the preseason tickets are worth nothing in the marketplace (although we have seen them go for most or full face value here) but then again you might get a 500% return on the Patriots which pays in total for the perceived lack of value of the preseason tickets.

You don't get to decide what is in the package. The Texans offer it, just like every other team in the league, for exactly what it sounds like - the whole season. People really should save their stress and look at it as they paid $1000 for the season.
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I'm certainly not ever choosing to do that. Some people probably do, and I think they're getting ripped off, but you're right, it is at least partially on them. The true market value of preseason games is shown in the secondary market prices, where it's not uncommon to be able to get a ticket for $5-$10 in the upper deck and then just move to the empty seats in the lower bowl.
 
I'll have to say variable ticket pricing like the used by the Astro's or even worse the airlines is more infuriating.

I feel a lot better about preseason tickets now....

Only 7 hrs left.
 
I am seeing more and more empty seats at these preseason games every year. The people who go for the most part are people that have been given tickets by their employers, friends, and by season ticket holders who have no interest in going.
 
texanhead08 said:
I just don't understand why team GM's and Head Coaches that get paid millions of dollars need 4 games to evaluate basically 10 roster spots. Its not a secret that you basically know who will be on your team except the bottom 10 spots on the roster each year.
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The current structure of preseason games is more about tradition than anything else.

Back in the day:

1. GMs and Head Coaches didn't get paid millions of dollars. They didn't even get paid hundreds of thousands of dollars.
2. Many of the football players had day jobs and in the offseason, they were working at their regular job. Being a football player didn't pay most guys enough to survive on. Because of that, they didn't keep themselves in shape and the coaches needed these games to get everyone back in shape.
3. You needed several games just to get everyone in shape and teach everyone your playbook and get them worked to a point that they could do the things you wanted them to do.

They don't need 4 preseason games, anymore. The players are in shape and know more about what they're doing and why, the coaches have more and better information.

But the owners still want those games because they make a bigger profit on them. The players don't get paid game-checks for preseason games so the owners have lower operating expenses for these games.
 
Devier Posey did not return soon enough to go heads up against his brother Julian, CB for the Dolphins...

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So Keenum is gonna be QB2 vs MIA, lets see how he does against the 2nd team, possibly 1st team Defense. Can't wait to see this!!
 
I guess we'll use this thread for the game like last week...

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Brian Cushing returns to action for the first time since his injury.

Mark Berman ‏@MarkBermanFox26
Guard Ben Jones starts for Wade Smith and OLB Justin Tuggle starts for Whitney Mercilus.

Texans not playing: WR Alan Bonner, ILB Tim Dobbins, OLB Whitney Mercilus, OT Brennan Williams, guard Wade Smith, nose tackle Chris Jones.

Of course Arian Foster, Ed Reed and DeVier Posey continue on PUP and are not playing.
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Cameron Collins, Delano Johnson, Brandon Harris are available to play.

3rd round pick Sam Montgomery to see his first NFL action.

:logo: Texans Depth Chart courtesy of Ourlads: http://www.ourlads.com/nfldepthcharts/depthchart/HOU


[IMGwidthsize=44]http://media.cmgdigital.com/shared/lt/lt_cache/thumbnail/960/img/photos/2013/03/28/5a/ee/dolphins-cxlogo.jpg[/IMG]Dolphins Depth Chart courtesy of Ourlads: http://www.ourlads.com/nfldepthcharts/depthchart/MIA

Dolphins 2013 draft class
  • Dion Jordan/DE/Oregon (first round/3rd overall) *will not play*
  • Jamar Taylor/CB/Boise State (second round/54th overall)
  • Dallas Thomas/OT/Tennessee (third round/77th overall)
  • Will Davis/CB/Utah State (third round/93rd overall)
  • Jelani Jenkins/LB/Florida (fourth round/104th overall)
  • Dion Sims/TE/Michigan State (fourth round/106th overall)
  • Mike Gillislee/RB/Florida (fifth round/164th overall)
  • Caleb Sturgis/K/Florida (fifth round/166th overall)
  • Don Jones/DB/Arkansas State (seventh round/250th overall)

Tailgater photos here: http://www.houstontexans.com/tv-med...lideshow/915cb107-a051-42a6-bc8f-17588557e9c0
 
Hopkins does have large hands. They showed a soft pass he caught just now on 13 where he jsimply one-handed plucked the ball out of the air.
 
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