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Potential Free Agents

leebigeztx said:
Linval Joseph fits the profile of a nt. I never knew why the g-men drafted him. 4yrs 12m, 6m. 6m guarantee sounds right.
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It would be very easy to make that cap space for him. Cut Schaub/Mitchell and your in the ballpark.
 
If Mark Sanchez or Ponder get cut, maybe the Texans look at them. Not the answer at starting QB, but could come in and win a game or two as a backup. Cassel would be another good choice.

Brandon Pettigrew and Jeremy Maclin would be interesting signings as well.

Anthony Spencer's price should be down thanks to his injury and the emergence of Selvie in Dallas.
 
All I know is that Rick is gonna have to do a discount doublecheck to help fill out our depth.
 
The1ApplePie said:
If Mark Sanchez or Ponder get cut, maybe the Texans look at them. Not the answer at starting QB, but could come in and win a game or two as a backup. Cassel would be another good choice.

Brandon Pettigrew and Jeremy Maclin would be interesting signings as well.

Anthony Spencer's price should be down thanks to his injury and the emergence of Selvie in Dallas.
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I like Pettigrew in the sense he's talented,yet haven't lived up to his billing. None of our tes are seam threats so its like having a modified fullback. Pettigrew and fred davis would really open the field up.
 
steelbtexan said:
It would be very easy to make that cap space for him. Cut Schaub/Mitchell and your in the ballpark.
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Schaub will probably be a cap cut. Mitchell is a FA and not even included in cap numbers.

ps Schaubs 2014 Cap savings in only 4$M. The greater savings comes in future years (ie Watt extension) which is why we take the full hit this year.
 
Marshall said:
You're the worst kind of fan. Ungrateful.
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Grateful for what? We wasted all that time with a back-up starting for us at QB. Maybe not his fault, because Gary hand-picked him, but he still cost us many chances to progress. As a fan I owe Matt Schaub zero gratitude.
 
SW H-TOWN said:
These are the guys that I would be looking at who will not cost a ton of money to sign.

OT-Michael Oher, Eric Winston, Rodger Saffold. There are several other free agents but I think that they will be re-signed. The more I look at the available free agents the more I think we will be drafting a T.

DE - Arthur Jones and Lamarr Houston. These guys could very well be available and I could see us signing one of these guys.

NT - Linval Joseph and Paul Soliai. I could see us spending some money on Joseph and getting a player capable of playing NT on our roster. We could also sign Soliai but I think it is more probable he will be resigned. He would allow us to draft and groom a NT.

OLB-Orakpo & Jason Worilds. I think that Orakpo is going to get a very big contract. I see Worilds as a more realist option.

CB - Chris Harris & Walter Thurmond. Both these guys are quality players who will most likely be available due to the cap situation of the teams they play for.

ILB-Vincent Rey. He is stuck behind Rey Maualuga and would provide an upgrade over Sharpton.

S-Major Wright. There are several studs but they are not going anywhere. I put down Major Wright even though I expect him to re-sign. Not looking to good for the Texans if they are thinking about landing a FS in FA.
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leebigeztx said:
Good list. I've always wondered how Kiwinuecka would fare as a 3-4 olb. I'm not sure he's a free agent though.
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Thanks, out of this list I would really like us to go after Linval Joseph and Chris Harris.

We really need a NT and Joseph just fits. He has been a productive starter for the Giants since 2011. He is very consistent and has started just about every game for the past three years. The Giants have Cullen Jenkins who will not be a FA until 2016 and drafted Johnathan Hankins so I could see him being allowed to test the market.

Chris Harris is a really good player for Denver and I would bet he will be available because the Broncos have a lot of high profile free agents that they need to retain, like a ton. Harris has experience at the slot and outside. He would make McCain obsolete and be an eventual replacement for Joseph.

Vincent Rey would be a good guy to sign too. He would not cost too much money and would provide an upgrade over Sharpton.
 
It would be nice if we could scrap up enough money for Brian Orakpo, Or Jairus Byrd.. I know they won't come cheap.. but loosing Schaub, Tate, and Smith should be able to get one #hopeful
 
Ben Frank said:
It would be nice if we could scrap up enough money for Brian Orakpo, Or Jairus Byrd.. I know they won't come cheap.. but loosing Schaub, Tate, and Smith should be able to get one #hopeful
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I am not sure tate is gone. They could high tender him for 2m and if nothing else, still draft a rb. Tate is a good back, but sometimes he tries to do too much. Tate would be fine if paired with a 3rd down type of guy. We dont know if arian will play again or what level he will be at. For 2m, I think thats a good safeguard. Maybe they trade a 5th for ronnie hillman who seems to be in the underground doghouse.
 
leebigeztx said:
I am not sure tate is gone. They could high tender him for 2m and if nothing else, still draft a rb. Tate is a good back, but sometimes he tries to do too much. Tate would be fine if paired with a 3rd down type of guy. We dont know if arian will play again or what level he will be at. For 2m, I think thats a good safeguard. Maybe they trade a 5th for ronnie hillman who seems to be in the underground doghouse.
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Tate can't be tendered.
 
leebigeztx said:
I am not sure tate is gone. They could high tender him for 2m and if nothing else, still draft a rb. Tate is a good back, but sometimes he tries to do too much. Tate would be fine if paired with a 3rd down type of guy. We dont know if arian will play again or what level he will be at. For 2m, I think thats a good safeguard. Maybe they trade a 5th for ronnie hillman who seems to be in the underground doghouse.
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Arian is scheduled to be back in time for training camp and we still owe him money, at least enough to just keep him for another season. Tate wants to be a teams #1 back. He doesnt want to be a 2nd fiddle and I think hes had enough of Houston as Houston has had of him.

With Foster and Johnson, you can grab a Tate replacement on the cheap in the back half of the NFL draft. There are several talented guys who will be there.
 
mussop said:
Free Agents I would like to see us look at.

Toby Gerhart....Badboy what do you think?
Donald Brown. I would love him.

Julian Edelman... Perfect fit..
Golden Tate..probrbly going to cost too much.
Tedd Ginn. Speed for the outside and a returner.
Dexter McCluster another good fit...


OT
Oher
Winston temporary fix..

OG
Jon Asamoah
Geoff Swartz

DT
Randy Starks
Jason Hatcher
Ziggy Hood

ILB

Brandon Spikes
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Toby would be an interesting discussion as a FA with a hammy and probably would insist on going to a team where he has chance to start. A great insurance policy for Vikings but terrible for him. If Foster is healthy, I would not recommend he come here if I were his agent. He could be a hell of a #2.
 
Well, one of the top 3 guys that I would have targeted in FA tore his ACL. Chris Harris, 2011 UFA CB Denver, was about to get paid and tore up his knee. This guy nobody thought would even make the team and through grit and hard work he had taken over as one of the 2 starting CBs half way through the season and was playing his a$$ off. Would not feel so bad if he was a first round draft pack...already millionaire. Hope he has a quick recovery. Damn I would of liked to have him in a Texans uniform. That is the type of guy you want on the roster.
 
he will be the highest paid fa, but hey, thats why rick smith gets paid the big bucks right?
try to convince me why we cant get him if we give him antonio's money. let's make this happen rick.

:dancer:
 
badboy said:
We currently have about $ 9 million for the right guy or guys if fortunate.
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That's only relevant as far as cap number goes.

We can offer three people a $9M contract as long as we can get their cap numbers below $9M.

Like Glover Quin. He signed a 5 years $23M contract. $5M signing bonus. With a $1M salary, his cap hit for 2013 was only $2M.

We can sign 4 guys to contracts like that with $9M....


Then we can & will cut Schaub.
 
thunderkyss said:
That's only relevant as far as cap number goes.

We can offer three people a $9M contract as long as we can get their cap numbers below $9M.

Like Glover Quin. He signed a 5 years $23M contract. $5M signing bonus. With a $1M salary, his cap hit for 2013 was only $2M.

We can sign 4 guys to contracts like that with $9M....


Then we can & will cut Schaub.
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The should be able to sign a FA NT/OL with that cap $$$$ especially after they cut Schaub.
 
thunderkyss said:
That's only relevant as far as cap number goes.

We can offer three people a $9M contract as long as we can get their cap numbers below $9M.

Like Glover Quin. He signed a 5 years $23M contract. $5M signing bonus. With a $1M salary, his cap hit for 2013 was only $2M.

We can sign 4 guys to contracts like that with $9M....


Then we can & will cut Schaub.
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Sorry was saying up to $9 million the first contract year. Not very interested in a player making $2 million a year other than as a back up depending on whom.
 
badboy said:
Sorry was saying up to $9 million the first contract year. Not very interested in a player making $2 million a year other than as a back up depending on whom.
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We need to staty away from those $9M/yr guys. Not very healthy for long term cap health. And you definitely want to stay away from them in FA, where the name of the game is to overpay.

We need more guys who are worth between $4M/yr & $6M/yr...... Like Glover Quin.

I think Rogers-Cromartie could test FA this year. I wouldn't have a problem signing him to ~ $9M/yr, we can restructure Jjo's money to pay for it, move Kj to safety.... & still have $9M of cap space.
 
thunderkyss said:
We need to staty away from those $9M/yr guys. Not very healthy for long term cap health. And you definitely want to stay away from them in FA, where the name of the game is to overpay.

We need more guys who are worth between $4M/yr & $6M/yr...... Like Glover Quin.

I think Rogers-Cromartie could test FA this year. I wouldn't have a problem signing him to ~ $9M/yr, we can restructure Jjo's money to pay for it, move Kj to safety.... & still have $9M of cap space.
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yeah any player we bring aboard need to be hits not misses. FA does not look good for me.
 
badboy said:
yeah any player we bring aboard need to be hits not misses. FA does not look good for me.
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i think there are a couple of guys at RT we could get in FA and for relatively cheap. first guy i target is Austin Howard.

If we can find one or two starters from the FA period that would be amazing. they don't have to be big money FA either. just solid role players
 
That's only relevant as far as cap number goes.

We can offer three people a $9M contract as long as we can get their cap numbers below $9M.

Like Glover Quin. He signed a 5 years $23M contract. $5M signing bonus. With a $1M salary, his cap hit for 2013 was only $2M.

We can sign 4 guys to contracts like that with $9M....

Then we can & will cut Schaub.
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ANYBODY but Glover Quin! A open space in the defense is better than he, because others will fill in to do the job Quin was supposed to do. His mere presence on the field throws away games.

ROSENCOPTER, but not Glover Quin!
 
Seegara said:
ANYBODY but Glover Quin! A open space in the defense is better than he, because others will fill in to do the job Quin was supposed to do. His mere presence on the field throws away games.

ROSENCOPTER, but not Glover Quin!
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:thinking: Not sure if serious....
 
A) So when I look here I see we have 116 Mill tied up in contracts for 2014

http://overthecap.com/nfl-cap-space2.php?Year=2014

B) When I look here I see The 2014 salary cap is projected to be 126 Mill

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on...-10-teams-with-best-2014-salary-cap-situation

C) When I look here at 2013 rookie cap numbers I estimate we use about 6.2 mill on about 4 rookies and IR the rest of them

http://overthecap.com/nfl-rookie-salary-cap.php

D) When I look at a few contracts and use probability and what I've heard I can cut a few of these contracts and save a few bucks (OD, Schaub, McCain OR Harris, Newton (I Pray), 3 other guys I don't know worth about 1.5 mill, and probably a contract or 2 restructured to save 2 mill)

http://www.overthecap.com/teamcap.php?Team=Texans&Year=2014

Overall this is the math I've done, I can definitely be wrong and I'm totally rounding, feel free to correct me so I better understand this in the future...

B (126) - A (116) - C (6.2) + (D) 13.5 = ~17 mill for FA.

I guess we can get Orakpo. I definitely like the guy that's not in question, but that's gonna be a huge chunk of this. What will we do about depth EVERYWHERE then?

The Texans are an extremely snake bit franchise with regards to injury and we NEVER seem to have any depth anywhere on this team. If we get Brian Orakpo, hell yes I'm down, but we better be VERY smart with where we spend the rest.
 
Oh yeah, and a FA I really like is Kerry Rhodes.

I think this dude is still a gamer and a top notch NFL player. I truly believe he was thrown off the team because he is rumored to be gay, but the dude has game left and can be had very cheap.
 
As I said before, if we could get linval joseph and jason worlids,it would really impact the draft. That would mean they could take richardson or fuller in the 2nd, seastrunk or DAT in the 3rd. Jmo
 
TexansFTW said:
A) So when I look here I see we have 116 Mill tied up in contracts for 2014

http://overthecap.com/nfl-cap-space2.php?Year=2014

B) When I look here I see The 2014 salary cap is projected to be 126 Mill

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on...-10-teams-with-best-2014-salary-cap-situation

C) When I look here at 2013 rookie cap numbers I estimate we use about 6.2 mill on about 4 rookies and IR the rest of them

http://overthecap.com/nfl-rookie-salary-cap.php

D) When I look at a few contracts and use probability and what I've heard I can cut a few of these contracts and save a few bucks (OD, Schaub, McCain OR Harris, Newton (I Pray), 3 other guys I don't know worth about 1.5 mill, and probably a contract or 2 restructured to save 2 mill)

http://www.overthecap.com/teamcap.php?Team=Texans&Year=2014

Overall this is the math I've done, I can definitely be wrong and I'm totally rounding, feel free to correct me so I better understand this in the future...

B (126) - A (116) - C (6.2) + (D) 13.5 = ~17 mill for FA.

I guess we can get Orakpo. I definitely like the guy that's not in question, but that's gonna be a huge chunk of this. What will we do about depth EVERYWHERE then?

The Texans are an extremely snake bit franchise with regards to injury and we NEVER seem to have any depth anywhere on this team. If we get Brian Orakpo, hell yes I'm down, but we better be VERY smart with where we spend the rest.
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The cap calculator on overthecap.com makes the math part much easier for you.

http://overthecap.com/calculator/?Team=Texans

You can play around with cuts, trades, extensions, etc, and then see how much money you end up with.
 
TexansFTW said:
Oh yeah, and a FA I really like is Kerry Rhodes.

I think this dude is still a gamer and a top notch NFL player. I truly believe he was thrown off the team because he is rumored to be gay, but the dude has game left and can be had very cheap.
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I do not want that circus. Now a young Dusty Rhodes is another matter entirely...
 
TexansFTW said:
Oh yeah, and a FA I really like is Kerry Rhodes.

I think this dude is still a gamer and a top notch NFL player. I truly believe he was thrown off the team because he is rumored to be gay, but the dude has game left and can be had very cheap.
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Dude I've been asking for Kerry Rhodes for a year now but I think he's actually done playing because he doesn't want to play anymore. I would think he would miss the days of locker room shenanigans but I guess that none of that is worth it to him anymore.
 
TheIronDuke said:
Dude I've been asking for Kerry Rhodes for a year now but I think he's actually done playing because he doesn't want to play anymore. I would think he would miss the days of locker room shenanigans but I guess that none of that is worth it to him anymore.
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Me too, I think he wants to play though. You don't go work out for the Giants being offered $800K if you don't want to play anymore.

He's gay and the NFL isn't ready to accept that yet. In 10 years from now this will happen again with another athlete, I wonder what teams' reactions will be at that time.

paycheck71 said:
The cap calculator on overthecap.com makes the math part much easier for you.

http://overthecap.com/calculator/?Team=Texans

You can play around with cuts, trades, extensions, etc, and then see how much money you end up with.
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LOL, thanks man. I was trying WAYYYY too hard. Can we really free up $4 mill restructuring Dre? Wow. I hope this thing is accurate, it's pretty cool to play with.

Marshall said:
I do not want that circus. Now a young Dusty Rhodes is another matter entirely...
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lol, something like Gold Dust playing safety?
 
TexansFTW said:
LOL, thanks man. I was trying WAYYYY too hard. Can we really free up $4 mill restructuring Dre? Wow. I hope this thing is accurate, it's pretty cool to play with.
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We can, but I wouldn't recommend it. His cap #'s for the next 3 years are already close to being out of control due to how many times his contract has been restructured. Need to minimize the amount of dead money if he's cut or decides to retire before his contract is up.
 
TexansFTW said:
Me too, I think he wants to play though. You don't go work out for the Giants being offered $800K if you don't want to play anymore.

He's gay and the NFL isn't ready to accept that yet. In 10 years from now this will happen again with another athlete, I wonder what teams' reactions will be at that time.



LOL, thanks man. I was trying WAYYYY too hard. Can we really free up $4 mill restructuring Dre? Wow. I hope this thing is accurate, it's pretty cool to play with.



lol, something like Gold Dust playing safety?
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Like Paycheck says we have to be very careful reworking contracts and pushing money onto future caps. It should be done only in rare cases with huge upside for signing or re-signing someone. We need to allow some of these contracts to go away when player get to the end like both Smiths. Those expiring contracts alone brings us almost $13m cap relief IIRC. That is Arakpo + money and a guy like him greatly improves those around him imo. Just info:

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Accurately assessing Orakpo’s value on the open market, should he get there, will be difficult. Green Bay outside linebacker Clay Matthews signed a six-year, $69.73 million contract extension with the Packers in April. On the other end of the spectrum, the Cleveland Browns handed Paul Kruger, primarily a backup in four seasons with the Baltimore Ravens, a five-year, $40.5 million contract in March."


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Demarcus Ware will be cut

offer him antonios money and were set

get a qb and a cb in the first 2 rds and were set for the next 3 years. (cut joseph) add a ot or a safety in the 3rd.

championship level team, even with a rookie qb.
 
thetexanator said:
Demarcus Ware will be cut

offer him antonios money and were set

get a qb and a cb in the first 2 rds and were set for the next 3 years. (cut joseph) add a ot or a safety in the 3rd.

championship level team, even with a rookie qb.
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Demarcus Ware will get closer to Mario money.
 
thunderkyss said:
Demarcus Ware will get closer to Mario money.
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thetexanator said:
coming off an injury? he should get closer to terrell suggs money. convince him to play with watt and cush for the rest of his career. this is why rick smith gets paid.
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Demarcus Ware is signed through 2017. Rumor has it the Cowboys may ask him to restructure. Outright cut is extremely unlikely this season but if he were he would get more than Smith and less than Mario.
 
Marshall Newhouse-OT is a FA. I remember lots of folks here wanting him for the Texans but he got drafted by the Packers in the 5th round. Anyone know anything about him or why the Packers are letting him walk? He might not have worked out in Green Bay but lots of guys do much better with their 2nd team.
 
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