Possible Trades for the #1 Pick

[JonVilma51]

I post on Jetsinsider.com

A poster over there has put up this thread as a link on their site and thats how I came across your site.

I have read through your posts and just wanted to shed some light on trading with the NYJ.

First of all, let me start by telling you that having the #1 overall pick this year is great for your team. If you stay you have your choice of some of the best college football players in the past decade and if you trade down you can surely get a lot.

But now let me comment on your "trade with the Jets".

The NYJ will not give you Coles or Abraham and 3 first day picks. That is absurd.

Look at the Eli Manning trade where San Deigo got 2 1st's and a 2nd for Eli Manning when the Giants where at the 4 hole. You expect the NYJ to give those 3 picks and a pro bowl caliber DE or their #1 WR too just for one player.

I don't care if that player is the second coming of Joe Namath, hes not worth 4 starters. I say starters because thats what you would expect from 2 firsts and a second round pick.

Now if I were the NYJ I would consider giving you Abraham, the 4th overall pick and our 1st rounder next year. Key word consider.

You have to put yourself in the other teams shoes and look at it. If you were the NYJ and you traded your coach because he sucked, had a crap year mostly because of injuries would you give up your best playmaker on offense (Coles) or your best player on defense (Jon Abraham) AND 2 first rounders and a high second round pick? No.

I respect the time you put into making this but you have to be a bit more realistic.

Jon Abraham, the #4 overall and a 2nd round pick for the #1 overall is more realistic.

 

[TheOgre]

Now if I were the NYJ I would consider giving you Abraham, the 4th overall pick and our 1st rounder next year. Key word consider.

That is the trade I have thrown around. Pretend you are the Jet's GM and I am the Texan's GM for a second. Would you trade your 2006 1st (#4), 2007 1st, and DE John Abraham for the Texan's 2006 1st (#1) and the Texan's 2007 3rd?

Basically to move down 3 slots, we get Abraham and upgrade a 3rd to a 1st.

 

[MorKnolle]

I post on Jetsinsider.com

A poster over there has put up this thread as a link on their site and thats how I came across your site.

I have read through your posts and just wanted to shed some light on trading with the NYJ.

First of all, let me start by telling you that having the #1 overall pick this year is great for your team. If you stay you have your choice of some of the best college football players in the past decade and if you trade down you can surely get a lot.

But now let me comment on your "trade with the Jets".

The NYJ will not give you Coles or Abraham and 3 first day picks. That is absurd.

Look at the Eli Manning trade where San Deigo got 2 1st's and a 2nd for Eli Manning when the Giants where at the 4 hole. You expect the NYJ to give those 3 picks and a pro bowl caliber DE or their #1 WR too just for one player.

I don't care if that player is the second coming of Joe Namath, hes not worth 4 starters. I say starters because thats what you would expect from 2 firsts and a second round pick.

Now if I were the NYJ I would consider giving you Abraham, the 4th overall pick and our 1st rounder next year. Key word consider.

You have to put yourself in the other teams shoes and look at it. If you were the NYJ and you traded your coach because he sucked, had a crap year mostly because of injuries would you give up your best playmaker on offense (Coles) or your best player on defense (Jon Abraham) AND 2 first rounders and a high second round pick? No.

I respect the time you put into making this but you have to be a bit more realistic.

Jon Abraham, the #4 overall and a 2nd round pick for the #1 overall is more realistic.

Part of the issue too is that the Jets are going to be close to if not over the salary cap next year without resigning any of their players that are scheduled to be free agents, including John Abraham, so they could have some real trouble resigning some of these guys and could very well lose players like Abraham anyways, so if they transition tag him and send him away in a trade they at least get the #1 pick in return. Maybe swapping 1sts and getting next years 1st rounder and this year's 3rd or 4th plus Abraham would b emore likely, but I was intending the poll to take people's minds off the rampant Reggie Bush hype parade that was going on at the time and trying to point out some plausible trade options that would probably improve the overall quality of the team better than drafting a single guy.

 

[JDizzle]

Look at the Eli Manning trade where San Deigo got 2 1st's and a 2nd for Eli Manning when the Giants where at the 4 hole. You expect the NYJ to give those 3 picks and a pro bowl caliber DE or their #1 WR too just for one player.

If I'm not mistaken, the Giants traded Phillip Rivers, their 3rd round pick that year and a 1st and 5th round pick the following year. I agree that Abraham and Coles are out of the question, and I read a report on ESPN a couple months ago that Abraham wants to stay in NY.

Bush, Leinart, and Young are far more valuable prospects than Eli Manning, and if we used that particular trade as precedent then I think we could possibly pull off a "take 'em to the cleaners" trade come draft day. I'm just not sure how bad the Jets, Raiders, or Packers want one of these guys, and I don't know much about their FO's to know whether or not they would unload so many picks on one player.

If we do take Bush, I really, and I mean really want to know what was the best offer.

 

[JonVilma51]

That is the trade I have thrown around. Pretend you are the Jet's GM and I am the Texan's GM for a second. Would you trade your 2006 1st (#4), 2007 1st, and DE John Abraham for the Texan's 2006 1st (#1) and the Texan's 2007 3rd?

Basically to move down 3 slots, we get Abraham and upgrade a 3rd to a 1st.

The ideal situation for the Jets would be to trade to the #2 hole and take whoever falls, Young or Bush.

We'd be giving up 2 firsts and our best defensive player for one guy, I wouldn't pull the trigger on that. I think that would be your GM's starting point and then the bargaining would begin.

Jon Abraham our first rounder (pick 4) and a 2007 second round pick.