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Possible Running backs to look at

HomeBred_Texan said:
Good grief. Personal attacks are always welcome here...

Let me pull your head out of your ###.

Let's say we traded for a back-up, as you suggest. Say we win 2 games with him. Now we are no longer in the top 5. Can't get an Adrian Peterson below that. Now we have wasted another draft pick for what? So we could win 2 more games THIS year?

I don't think so. You have no logic what so ever.

Please go and try to solve world peace or the nuke problem in Korea, and leave the football talk to the ones who KNOW football...
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ok I will do that... But, first let me point out that you have already concidered losing for the rest of the year!! And as for knowing football talk what person in their right mind will give up after week 6? You don't know winning football you just know loser football. anyone who even humors the thought of losing the rest of the year for a #1 draft pick is NO FOOTBALL GENIUS

oh and by the way we did that last year and what did that get us????

The Mighty Texan is NO loser and will accept nothing less
 
The Mighty Texan said:
No... he is BROKEN and he can't play... save me the BS when DD returns he'll be in another uniform... Like a Wendy's

Cause he ain't playing football... and he and his Dr's screwed us bigtime had they said he ain't playing we could have done more with the draft... and thats a fact!!

I am The Mighty Texan and will take on all challengers!!!

The Mighty Texan!
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So you agree that you have quit on Mario then? What's your point? I thought you didn't quit.

I will give you credit, you have not quit from contradicting yourself. So in that regard, you are still a Texan.

We need another off season to correct our problems.... one RB doesn't fix our problem.
 
The Mighty Texan said:
ok I will do that... But, first let me point out that you have already concidered losing for the rest of the year!! And as for knowing football talk what person in their right mind will give up after week 6? You don't know winning football you just know loser football. anyone who even humors the thought of losing the rest of the year for a #1 draft pick is NO FOOTBALL GENIUS

oh and by the way we did that last year and what did that get us????

The Mighty Texan is NO loser and will accept nothing less
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So what you are saying is you would take a mediocre Texan team this year and draft in the bottom of the 1st round, instead of being the bottomless pit team that we are right now and getting the key players to push us to the promised land? Is that correct?

Did you really think we were going to the playoffs this year or what?

I saw this year as a 4/12 season from the beginning. Now I doubt that 4 wins are in the future regardless of who we trade for. And I am NOT willing to give up draft picks to make YOU happy, that's for sure...

Who in the world do you think we are going to beat in the upcoming games? Jax, Indy, Buff, who?

Now step back away from the bar, tell the bartender to cut you off and call a taxi and get a ride home. Have a nice day...
 
HomeBred_Texan said:
Dang, now I know I am getting old. My memory is sure failing me now. DD was not a number 1 pick last year or any year. He is history however.

Saying our real number 1 pick, Mario Williams is broken is total BS. He doesn't even have half a season under his belt. I see him improving, but nothing to write home about...

You need to quit going to happy hours in the middle of the day...
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Well all of yesterday was Unhappy hours watch the painful display of our team. Let me tell you that a rook is a rook is a rook...

Mario would have been available later in the rounds and we could have traded for him then for a pick... But to let DD sit on the bench and say he will be ready is unacceptable. He was NOT coming back... its crazy. Bush or Young could have been traded after the draft... but thats old milk anyway...

All I am saying is he (Michael Turner) is a logical choice since we have no choice... get it?... why did Dallas get TO?... last chance baby...

Also, I don't give up on Mario Williams but until Mario can run for a TD then its pointless... it was a wasted pick! The WHOLE LEAGUE is still scratching their head over that!!! Admit it and things would be easier to accept.

NO MORE REBUILDING NO MORE EXCUSES it time for results!!

The Mighty Texan
 
The Mighty Texan said:
Well all of yesterday was Unhappy hours watch the painful display of our team. Let me tell you that a rook is a rook is a rook...

Mario would have been available later in the rounds and we could have traded for him then for a pick... But to let DD sit on the bench and say he will be ready is unacceptable. He was NOT coming back... its crazy. Bush or Young could have been traded after the draft... but thats old milk anyway...

All I am saying is he (Michael Turner) is a logical choice since we have no choice... get it?... why did Dallas get TO?... last chance baby...

Also, I don't give up on Mario Williams but until Mario can run for a TD then its pointless... it was a wasted pick! The WHOLE LEAGUE is still scratching their head over that!!! Admit it and things would be easier to accept.

NO MORE REBUILDING NO MORE EXCUSES it time for results!!

The Mighty Texan
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Whoever wastes their time arguing with this should be ashamed of themselves. :rolleyes:
 
Hoth-Boy said:
All Dayne and Gado have proven is that they can be productive on occasion, neither has ever done it over the course of a full season.
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Good point.

So I guess a good solution would be to go get some other team's #2 or #3. In other words, another player that has yet to prove they can get it done over the course of a full season.

Not that you've recommended this...but others have.
 
Heywood said:
i can't let this beauty go by without receiving some props.
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Thanks!

May I remind you I am the only one offering solutions today... instead of throwing in the towel and saying NEXT year... I can't even believe yer accepting this!!! that its ok to lose the rest of the season... Unbelievable!! You guys want to lose so we can get a 1st round pick next year?!?!?!? amazing!!!

So, Contradiction is really yer thing... Solutions are my thing...

So, if I am right YOU GUYS want to Lose so we can get another pick next year?? what a bunch of LOOOSERS!!!! Sit back in the lazy chair and wait til next year... oh and I have to be drunk to understand yer mentality or lack of...

I was Born a winner and will accept nothing less from those around me which proves my point...

I am The Mighty Texan and will welcome all challengers...

oh get a new tag line... it belongs to the NFL mr creative
 
Huge said:
Good point.

So I guess a good solution would be to go get some other team's #2 or #3. In other words, another player that has yet to prove they can get it done over the course of a full season.

Not that you've recommended this...but others have.
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Look at his stats, dude... and he is a back up!! He runs like a tank and wants to be a starter... Check the stats!! check our stats.. Nuff said

I waisted my time with all you next year football champions...

The Mighty Texan!!
 
The Mighty Texan said:
Thanks!

May I remind you I am the only one offering solutions today...
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You have not offered any solutions. You are only offering to make a bad situation even worse. You are arguing with yourself.

It's like having a deep gash cut into your leg, you need stitches, but only apply a band-aid.

The only solution to the whole problem is let the coaches figure it out. I am pretty sure they know more about football and talent than any of us do. But you come in here with the solution to world hunger and that is not the answer.

Until Kubes can put a team togeather that can actually beat Indy, I will settle on the "Wait till next year" syndrom... I did it for the Oilers and they got there and I will do it for the Texans...

BTW, do you own season tickets or just support the team by mouth?
 
Vinny said:
Najeh Davenport sure looked good for the Steelers yesterday...donno why we didn't sign him when he was waived.
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The Steelers and Dolphins had an advantage because Davenport's salary would've been guaranteed if he was signed before Week 1.
 
yea and look how long the Oilers were around? And the Oilers NEVER went to the SUPERBOWL they were NOT the OILERS in the superbowl they were the Tenn Traitors... and they LOST and No wonder you have a wait til next year syndrome. I was a bigtime oiler fan and since they left I hated not having a Houston Texas team... I live in Burbank,CA so no I don't have season tickets...

But, I support the team more than anyone here... and it seems like over there too.

The Oilers were always choke city everytime!! A yard short everytime!!!

I am The Mighty Texan and will take on all challengers!!

Michael Turner for Texas RB!! in 06 NOT 07

later clowns it was fun I have a movie to finish...
 
I know it says 38 for age on mighty texan, but reading what and how he/she posts who here believes that might be a.........typo?
 
Any chance the Bears would part with Cedric Benson for our 2007 #2 pick ?
At that rate we are going, that #2 will probably be the 33, 34, or 35th overall.
Benson is the Bears back-up RB and has not been too popular or successful
with the team. They might want look at that kind of deal ?
Big cap hit for us since Benson was top 5 from last year.
Any thought on this kind of deal ? Don't even know if Benson would be suited
for our offense (at such a high price) ? And as we know, Kubiak not big on paying a lot of consideration for running backs.
 
nunusguy said:
And as we know, Kubiak not big on paying a lot of consideration for running backs.
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I see allot people, or maybe you just keep putting that in allot of posts, but Kubs was not the head coach. He didn't make the decisions at Denver to either get a 1st round rb or pass. Why would you say that?

Kubs had a good draft last year. He has many holes to fill. I am not and never will be excited about giving away high draft picks for anyone. Look at what Edge brought for Indy... Once we get over the "hump" and become a contender, then yes, by all means trade away a #2 for someone who can get you to the promised land, but not until...
 
edo783 said:
I know it says 38 for age on mighty texan, but reading what and how he/she posts who here believes that might be a.........typo?
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So what exactly are you implying? I'm Not 38?

Look I came on the board and said Michael Turner for Texan RB and we should trade for him...

and I get bombarded with these "lose all the games so we can pick someone next year crowd?" What a crock! We had the number one pick THIS year and we blew it!! understand! we blew it... and as a reminder... getting the first pick is an embarrassment and absolute shame... that means we were LAST PLACE... again an embarassment!!! first, second, even the third year acceptable? maybe, but we are no longer an expansion team we are just a crappy team... WITH NO RUNNING GAME

Gado and Dayne were and are number 2 and 3 RB for other teams. And now we have them. They suck and so does our O-line

I am Not used to losing and will never accept this next year crap... its been 5 years folks and all I hear is next year what a waist of time ...We had the first pick This year and we did nothing with it. so go figure!

Losers accept losing...
Winners NEVER accept losers or losing.

I stand by my opinions and challenge all to debate the subject of this post Possible Running Backs to look at... so far all I see is quiters and losers waiting for next year...

I am The Mighty Texan and one day...
 
The Mighty Texan said:
So what exactly are you implying? I'm Not 38?

Look I came on the board and said Michael Turner for Texan RB and we should trade for him...

and I get bombarded with these "lose all the games so we can pick someone next year crowd?" What a crock! We had the number one pick THIS year and we blew it!! understand! we blew it... and as a reminder... getting the first pick is an embarrassment and absolute shame... that means we were are LAST PLACE... again an embarassment!!! first, second, even the third year acceptable? maybe butt we are no longer an expansion team we are just a crappy team... WITH NO RUNNING GAME

Gado and Dayne were and are number 2 and 3 RB for other teams. And now we have them. They suck and so does our O-line

I am Not used to losing and will never accept this next year crap... its been 5 years folks and all I hear is next year what a waist of time ...We had the first pick This year and we did nothing with it. so go figure!

Losers accept losing...
Winners NEVER accept losers or losing.

I stand by my opinions and challenge all to debate the subject of this post Possible Running Backs to look at... so far all I see is quiters and losers waiting for next year...

I am The Mighty Texan and one day...
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There you go running straight ahead again without realizing you ran off a cliff, Wile E. Coyote.

IMO, bringing in Turner isn't going to solve the running game problem. The OL has been shuffled again, depleted with injuries, and is still learning the new system. These aren't Kubiak's guys, yet. Of course, they aren't producing at all, but bringing in another RB that will continually be hit by a DL almost instantaneously after the handoff will do nothing except piss off the message board people to clamor that we again overpaid for a free agent.

And, if you think that Michael Turner comes here for anything less than a 2nd rounder, you are mistaken. That situation is the epitome of buying at the peak of the market if we go after him right now. I would rather use the picks next year after evaluating the available talent and free agency.

I would be more than happy to look at Michael Turner next year in FA, if available. It is my opinion that we don't look at RBs to bring in at this point.
 
kcwilson said:
There you go running straight ahead again without realizing you ran off a cliff, Wile E. Coyote.

IMO, bringing in Turner isn't going to solve the running game problem. The OL has been shuffled again, depleted with injuries, and is still learning the new system. These aren't Kubiak's guys, yet. Of course, they aren't producing at all, but bringing in another RB that will continually be hit by a DL almost instantaneously after the handoff will do nothing except piss off the message board people to clamor that we again overpaid for a free agent.

And, if you think that Michael Turner comes here for anything less than a 2nd rounder, you are mistaken. That situation is the epitome of buying at the peak of the market if we go after him right now. I would rather use the picks next year after evaluating the available talent and free agency.

I would be more than happy to look at Michael Turner next year in FA, if available. It is my opinion that we don't look at RBs to bring in at this point.
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I would give them the #2 pick without hesitation. It takes a couple of years for a talented RB to get into stride. MT is ready now. DD is done and God bless him for the 1000yrd seasons he had with us. and that with the pathetic o-line we had. But he is done and we have NO available #2 to step in. Those are facts... Waiting til next year gives us nothing except a Rookie and even number 1's turn out to be busts... Imagine what it would be like if we had Reggie? I can't take a chance on another #1 that may or may not pan out. LT will not be losing his job... MT is getting the carries because he is going to walk if they don't. He'll be available in FA next year he is a talented RB who would start over half of the starter in the league today... But I don't want other teams to up the bidding on him after the season... we should have went after him in preseason...

I want to Win... This year!! and thanks for keeping to the RB question.

The Mighty Texan
 
IshouldbeGM said:
Michael Turner rb san diego chargers....i think we can get him for a 2nd rd pick, we can use our 1st rd pick on a d-lineman or a safety.


http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=6913
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God, I think I'm in love!!! Where have you been? I have been trying to talk sense into these doomsayers forever! Waiting for next year is not an option... Thanks for getting my back bud... I owe you big time!

Michael Turner Texans RB!!!!

The Mighty Texan will make you GM when I buy the Texans!!!!!!
 
If I was GM I would get either Chris Brown from the Titans or Mike Bell from the Broncos. For one they are both faster and can cut back better than any of our RB's we have on this team. The only problem I have is Brown's health, if I'm not mistaken but ain't he very injury prone kinda like ol' Wong?!:rolleyes:
 
But, will the powers that be actually make any moves are all of us just getting our hopes up for nothing?:homer:
 
God I hope So!!!

The powers that be can't possibly be happy with the RBs we have now... and no one is available to do the job today!!

The Mighty Texan!!!

Michael Turner for Texan RB
 
No one is happy with the balks we have now. More importantly, we/you shouldn't be happy with the OL play... Turner isn't that good that we can hand the ball off and he is the guy in the league that will be able to dodge the DLineman that is sitting a foot in front of him as soon as he touches the ball.

OL play will at least open a few more holes, which provides our backs a better chance at success, I don't like Dayne or Gado, but would prefer Lundy get the ball, but hey, why get him crushed right now.

I don't think overpaying for Turner right now with a high draft pick is worth it.
 
The only problem with waiting until free agency after this yr is, Turner is a restricted free agent, meaning the chargers still hold his rights if they him the qualifying offer....and if they do, they can require compensation like a 1st and 3rd rd pick from the team that chooses to sign him. So its best the texans go after him now with a 2nd rd pick, rather than wait.
 
IshouldbeGM said:
The only problem with waiting until free agency after this yr is, Turner is a restricted free agent, meaning the chargers still hold his rights if they him the qualifying offer....and if they do, they can require compensation like a 1st and 3rd rd pick from the team that chooses to sign him. So its best the texans go after him now with a 2nd rd pick, rather than wait.
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But do you really think that (1) San Diego will move him for just a 2nd, (2) SD wants to risk losing a great weapon to spell LT this year, and (3) SD knows that they can restrict him and use that as leverage for a better offer in the off season?

I give the Chargers credit for actually thinking their way through this. Turner isn't coming here, much less for a 2nd. C'mon you guys, give me a better reason than that... take of the Texan colored glasses!
 
The Mighty Texan said:
Failure is an option YOU can accept! Not me! Real Texans NEVER quit.

Texans NEVER QUIT and quiters are NEVER TEXANS... which brings the fact that yer not even a Texan...

The Mighty Texan has spoken!!!

You know this is fun right?
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I quit smoking....and I was born here. :wild:
 
Mighty Texan I guess I should break it to you, but get off the gas man. Of course Turner is a great back, knowing this you really think the Chargers are gonna let him go easily. Nope their gonna ask a deep price you really think it's worth it? I bet you would. Let me set you straight on some things, it doesn't take talented backs years to hit their stride as you said. Cadillac came into the league on three straight 100 yd. games. Look at Maroney, Norwood and Jones-Drew already making impact on their team and hitting their stride. Second you gonna trade for him and what if, what if Lundy or Taylor steps up and show they can be productive? Gee, guess you didn't really need to trade after all. Even if they don't he's coming from a different system how long will it take him to acclimate to the team? 2-3 weeks. We'll be in week 9 before we can even make a fair assessment of him. On top of all that next year looks to be a deep draft. How stupid would you feel if a prospect that could really fill a need and was talented fell to the position where we should have been?

You say you a Texan fan that doesn't accept loosing why are you still here? Our teams been loosing alot.
 
nunusguy said:
Any chance the Bears would part with Cedric Benson for our 2007 #2 pick ?
At that rate we are going, that #2 will probably be the 33, 34, or 35th overall.
Benson is the Bears back-up RB and has not been too popular or successful
with the team. They might want look at that kind of deal ?
Big cap hit for us since Benson was top 5 from last year.
Any thought on this kind of deal ? Don't even know if Benson would be suited
for our offense (at such a high price) ? And as we know, Kubiak not big on paying a lot of consideration for running backs.
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Well... that's the best suggestion I've heard yet. And yes, I do believe they'd part with him for a 2007 #2. We would be taking on a big salary... but Benson actually is a pretty good fit for this offense. One-cut guy.

http://www.nfl.com/draft/profiles/2005/benson_cedric

He's relatively expendable because Jones has been good and Adrian Peterson's (no... not that one) not bad either. I think this is exactly the type of risk the Texans never took after Boselli, but is badly needed. He can be a franchise back, but the perils are obvious. Not sure of the cap implications, but I believe they aren't horrible (he certainly hasn't hit any performance escalators).

I think it's a great, albeit risky, personnel decision, but it would be great for PR as well. It might spark a bit of excitement and mollify the fickle and unsatisfied UT crowd after the DJ-VY incidents.
 
The Mighty Texan said:
God I hope So!!!

The powers that be can't possibly be happy with the RBs we have now... and no one is available to do the job today!!

The Mighty Texan!!!

Michael Turner for Texan RB
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Easy partner... I'd love to see Turner too... but the cost is a lot more than a #2 pick. He'll be given the highest tender as an RFA, meaning any team that wants to sign him will have to give up a #1 and #3 pick to obtain him. San Diego will probably negotiate it to a #2 and #3 or #4 or maybe just a #1 depending on circumstances. That's what they can get for him after the season... so for them to give him up in the middle of a season with Super Bowl aspirations and so much of their offense reliant on the running game is a tall task. If we got super lucky we'd have to give up a #2, #3, and a player that can help them right now. It's very improbable. Sure, if you called SD up and offered your #1 and Gado, you could get 'er done... but unless you're willing to do that, it ain't happenin.
 
I'm a Texan... Always been a Texan. When my Oilers Left it broke my heart... No matter where I go, no matter where I been, I am A Houston Texan! Not just a Dallas Fan, But A Houston Texan... Its too easy to be just a Dallas fan. Everybody can be a Dallas fan. I root Texas on everything. I am in Cali because of work but, I wish I was in Texas... Everyday... All Day...

The Texans are all I got... and when they pull the plug on my only Texan game and switch it to another because we are blown out... wow! what an insult!! It was yanked dude! in the 3rd quarter and switch to another game?... anyway...Cali Life Sucks without Direct TV...

I check the boards and people are apathetic... accepting the loss and waiting til next year! Anyway, The Trade couldn't happen, I knew it, but I was having fun just thinking about it fer a day... anyway...

I am The Mighty Texan far away from home...
 
"Home, home on the range...where the deer and the antelope play...."
 
The O-Line or the play calling or a combination of the two are leaving our RBs with nowhere to turn. Turner would be great but he'll cost multiple picks. Adrian Peterson or Ryan Moats would add a better class of runner but there's talent in both Gado and Lundy, and possibly Taylor too. Maybe we should try to trade Dayne and Flanagan for a center who can block, start varying the playbook a little and give the guys we've got a chance to get into some kind of rhythm.
Failing that - I like Moats. He runs hard and he's barely touching the ball even with Westbrook hurt. On top of that he'd be a great change of pace once DD comes back.
 
How about we take a poll of who is the biggest fastest guy on the board then we start a petition and get it to Kubes to let the guy tryout for the team?
 
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