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Pitts Arrested
- Thread starter Tailgate
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Nice.
Second Honeymoon
Hall of Fame
just an easy 'comeback' for some of the less-informed. it seems like there is something bred in these Houstonians where they feel they are the little sister of Dallas and have to hate anything with a Dallas brand on it.
I can understand hating the Mavs because theya re the ROckets rival, but the Cowboys are not even remotely a Texans rival. As a matter of fact, I consider myself a Texan before I consider myself a Houstonian and I support almost all Texas sports teams or Texas interests...except the Spurs because now they have more championships than the Rox.
If the Cowboys play the Texans, I cheer for the TExans but other than that I support the Cowboys to win because I am a Texan first and foremost.
Texans_Chick
Utopian Dreamer
If the officer has to stop you again, you are going to get an evading ticket.
Police officers have a difficult job. They want to do their work and they want to not get killed doing their work. They don't want to be involved in a debate society on the side of the road or hear your explanation and certainly doing want to drive after guys they already stopped.
Misunderstandings happen all the time at traffic stops. Police officers are used to doing what they do, but drivers aren't accustomed to being stopped and if the directions to you aren't clear, you might goof up. See e.g. Utah Ride the Taser guy as an extreme example of a traffic stop gone bad by both officer and driver.
Here's my write up, with map, law stuff, speculation about this sort of fact situation (daytime driving off from a traffic stop where the police officer leaves to do something else is often a misunderstanding):
http://sports.aol.com/fanhouse/2007...arrested-for-fleeing-to-avoid-a-traffic-tick/
As I recall, aren't there a bunch of fast food restaurants that way. Maybe he was just really hungry.
Texan_Bill
Hall of Fame
Chester Pitts: "Don't taze me bro......" 
Mr teX
Hall of Fame
Chester Pitts: "Don't taze me bro......"
Good one! That guy ended getting lit up didn't he?
Specnatz
Hall of Fame
Chester Pitts: "Don't taze me bro......"
I wonder if he got his sticker from Bill O'Reilly
CT CSTM
Noob
Chester is a friend of mine, he's a good upstanding guy. His Dad is a detective back in Cali. He's mindful and respectful of law enforcement. He's also mindful of his reputation in the community. I guarantee you, and I haven't talked to him yet this morning, that he misunderstood the situation and thought he was clear to leave and strolled off. Supposedly he pulled back over a half mile later which if he was trying to get away he wouldn't have stopped that quick. By the time the cops got back in their cars and ran him back down a half mile or so isn't a "chase". Chester is a very intelligent guy and I in no way see that he would have done anything intentional to defy law enforcement. He's not STUPID like some above posters have said,,,I bet when it comes out it was all a big misunderstanding,,,
Vinny
shiny happy fan
Chester has always come across as a bright guy. A half a mile is a 3 min run for some...that's not a high speed chase.
Texan_Bill
Hall of Fame
I reminded someone here in my office about Pitts' father being a detective and also reminded him that Pitts' is an intelligent person - considering he went to a specialized high school for Math and Science.
I agree with you that at the end of the day, it will come out that it was a huge misunderstanding.
Thanks for posting your thoughts. It's good to see some clarity for a stand-up guy like CP. I think this incident will go away when the facts are out.
YellerLotYeller
nice marmot
Just heard his(CP) comment on 790 and he sounded really upset. I think it was a huge misunderstanding.
False Start
On # 69
Because that was what I had heard so much during the first years of the franchise , it kind of stuck with me . Thats why . I actually have grown to like CP too . He seems like a real good guy from what Ive seen of him in interviews and TV appearances . I'm the type of fan that likes players for their personality . A guy could be a world beater on the field , an A-hole off the field , and I could care less for the guy . A good personality and stand up type of person goes a long way in my book .
Texans_Chick
Utopian Dreamer
Hey, I didn't hear it. What did he say?
Tailgate
Fall of Hame
Texans_Chick
Utopian Dreamer
I looked it up because I was curious and figured it was around Reliant due to the time of day and that the paper said Kirby. If the block numbers and descriptions were accurate, it is the distance between Kirby and Fannin--about .7 miles.
You know, about the time it takes for someone to drive off, the police officer realizing the guy drove off, getting to a car, (with a partner, as I recall),driving after the guy to make sure to give the driver the what for, the driver noticing the lights behind him and pulling over some place safe enough to pull over.
McClain's current blog post asks readers to say whether Pitts should be suspended for the game, even before his side of the story is told. Sigh.
YellerLotYeller
nice marmot
Tailgate quoted it...
YellerLotYeller
nice marmot
"Mouth-Breather" McClain is all about hyping something thats not there.
Yankee_In_TX
Dance Lindsay!
We got your back, Chester!
I dunno, those light bulbs he talked me into aren't all that bright, I'm still a little disgruntled....
Great analysis TC.
You know, its that type of stuff that has me not reading his columns in the Chronicle, and not listening to 610am anymore.
Guilty before proven innocent is McClain's new motto. I wouldn't be suprised if he's the most hated man in the Texans lockerroom.
You know, its that type of stuff that has me not reading his columns in the Chronicle, and not listening to 610am anymore.
Guilty before proven innocent is McClain's new motto. I wouldn't be suprised if he's the most hated man in the Texans lockerroom.
The Walrus has spoken....or rather grunted in that grunting sound that walruses make.
I think his next blog should ask readers whether McClain should be covering the Texans or not. He'd probably be scared of the results, though, and end up moving to Tennessee.
Texans_Chick
Utopian Dreamer
I think McClain had to dump something out really quick, and that is the result. You write enough stuff and are doing enough things, some of those things are not going to be best efforts.
His blog posts after the Fred Weary thing and the Travis Johnson thing were more completely discussed and very fair.
I don't see how this could be anything but a mistake because of miscommunication. Given Pitt's background and his personality, it is easy for me to think he thought he had received a verbal warning and been let go. He would not have disobeyed an officer on purpose.
YellerLotYeller
nice marmot
ABC13 said Bob McNair is supporting him, and thats good enough for me.
Specnatz
Hall of Fame
Nice McClain lets create a blog and ask readers what they think and forget to even ask Pitts his side of it. How about creating a poll if you should be allowd to continue working and doing a crappy job. Yeah fine you used to know people and have great contacts and now you are down to making crappy music videos with crappy songs. You ask the readers to provide something intelligent; is it to much to ask for you to do the same thing? Appearantly so. Please retire it is the best thing you could ever do for sports in Houston.
It is disgusting how so many people did not even wait for Vhester Pitts side of the situation. If the police officer was not so worried about filling his non-exsistant quota and trying to stop multiple people for an illegal turn mistakes like this would not happen. Officers have to be more cautious than ever and they need to have their undivided attention focused on one stop at a time. Having the time divided causes mistakes and mistakes can get an officer killed. Very bad judgement on the officers part.
{Thomas, geez, Merry Christmas to you, too. -- JOHN}
Well I got a Merry Christmas wish from John after my post on his blog. I may have been harsh with my officer comments but I stand behind what I ment by them.
It is disgusting how so many people did not even wait for Vhester Pitts side of the situation. If the police officer was not so worried about filling his non-exsistant quota and trying to stop multiple people for an illegal turn mistakes like this would not happen. Officers have to be more cautious than ever and they need to have their undivided attention focused on one stop at a time. Having the time divided causes mistakes and mistakes can get an officer killed. Very bad judgement on the officers part.
{Thomas, geez, Merry Christmas to you, too. -- JOHN}
Well I got a Merry Christmas wish from John after my post on his blog. I may have been harsh with my officer comments but I stand behind what I ment by them.
Tulip
Veteran
I just watched the video at HT.com with Chester, McNair and Kubiak. Chester seemed so very embarrassed, upset, and contrite. No bravado whatsoever. I knew when I heard it originally that there must be some sort of misunderstanding because he is such a stand-up guy. It's easy to give guys like that the benefit of the doubt until the facts come out instead of jumping to conclusions.
Napa Auto Parts
Veteran
Pretty soon were going to make the Cowboy's of the 90's look like a bunch of kid from boyscouts of america.
White Runningback
Waterboy
At least he didn't go out like this guy:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ScDSZWCevhc
And this didn't happen to him:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=yGXH-MwUt5E
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ScDSZWCevhc
And this didn't happen to him:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=yGXH-MwUt5E
Wolf
100% Texan
http://www.khou.com/news/local/stories/khou080117_jj_chesterpitsgrandjury.2fbafdc1.html
video link on that too
video link on that too
Texans_Chick
Utopian Dreamer
Though it's been said that a grand jury will indict a ham sandwich, it is likely that if he comes across the way he did during the interviews with the media, and if the dashboard cam stuff isn't ugly, that the grand jury will vote not to indict if they have one lick of sense.
Given even the police department's account of events, combined with what Pitts said, a prosecutor would have a hard time saying that Pitts intended to flee arrest. "Intent" is key, and most of the circumstantial information would make it hard for a prosecutor to prove intent beyond a reasonable doubt.
Specnatz
Hall of Fame
Yeah but how much faith can you put in a bunch of people not smart enough to get out of jury duty?
Texans_Chick
Utopian Dreamer
Yeah but how much faith can you put in a bunch of people not smart enough to get out of jury duty?
The people on a grand jury in Harris County are generally people who volunteered for that duty. Civic minded folks. Generally, smarter than the population in general, and traditionally very conservative.
I have the highest regard for people that serve on any jury, because we need to encourage good people to serve on juries. As much as there is crazy stuff in the paper, juries get it right more often than the goof up in spectacular fashion.
Texan_Bill
Hall of Fame
Yeah but how much faith can you put in a bunch of people not smart enough to get out of jury duty?
Steph is dead on about the Grand Jury v. jurors called for duty... But more importantly, you insulted me as I went to jury duty yesterday out at Judge Bill Yoemans annex (Clay at Highway 6)
threetoedpete
Hall of Fame
Steph is dead on about the Grand Jury v. jurors called for duty... But more importantly, you insulted me as I went to jury duty yesterday out at Judge Bill Yoemans annex (Clay at Highway 6)
He's a hoot isn't he ? Yoeman can Clear out a couple of Hundred people before lunch time.
And...make you laugh befor you poney up the money.
I never get picked for juries. Speak up in voir dire or it's your own fault. Don't lie just speak the truth. I tell them I'm a conervative and that prety much does it.
I've done what Pitts did befor. Motor cycle guy pulls two over at once and you get a jester it's not you...or you think it's a jester it's not you...I just went on. I believe it was innocent.
'nother thing I do that drives them nutz is look for a clear place to pull over. My uncle had a very good freind who was a young motor cycle cop. Anyway to make long story short....someone freaked at one of his traffic stops under the east loop and an eighteen wheeler jack-knifed and slid in to them. Gasoline 18 wheeler. So I'm prety spookey about stoping in traffic along the freeway.
Rather go to jail for evading arrest than be a crispy critter.
I think what Pitts did was fairly innocent. He has no cause to run from the cops. Just a misunderstanding. I don't believe he was in hurry and just decided to go. He got a jester and misintrupreted it.
Grand Jury guys are usually pillars of the commnity guys who are invited to serve. Deacon of churches, retired teachers, people who've run plants and offices...they don't just get them off the street. It's really quite an honor to be picked. And... a thankless job.
Texan_Bill
Hall of Fame
Judge Yoeman is great. I have never seen a judge take the time to actually address each and everyone that showed up for jury duty. And yes, he also has such a great sense of humor - whether you pay up or not.... Nothing but respect for him.
Specnatz
Hall of Fame
My comment was not to insult it was a line from a movie and I was making a joke. I have served on a jury about some property damage crap.
And yes I do have respect for the people who do grand jury and regular jury.
I guess I should have not made the joke.
infantrycak
Hall of Fame
610 am just said the grand jury no billed Chester Pitts.
Texans_Chick
Utopian Dreamer
Nice. It's a good thing when the thing that is supposed to happen happens.
Texans_Chick
Utopian Dreamer
Nah, I was just speaking in general and not trying to direct this at you. I wanted folks to know that grand juries are a little different than regular juries.
SheTexan
Hall of Fame
I have jury duty Jan 23rd, have served on several juries in the past, and will serve this time if selected. Do I want to do this? No, not really. BUT, I don't feel I have a right to complain about things I don't like about our justice system if I don't willingly do my part when called. I just go, take a good book to read, and keep my fingers crossed that if I am called, it will be on some case that will keep me from falling asleep in the jury box.
I have jury duty Jan 23rd, have served on several juries in the past, and will serve this time if selected. Do I want to do this? No, not really. BUT, I don't feel I have a right to complain about things I don't like about our justice system if I don't willingly do my part when called. I just go, take a good book to read, and keep my fingers crossed that if I am called, it will be on some case that will keep me from falling asleep in the jury box.
The one jurty duty I went to lasted 1.5 days. Half way through the second day one of the parties involved admited he was lying. But they did pass around a bullet that was in some dudes head for an hour or two.
Mike
DiapHer
GO BIG RED!!!
I have jury duty Jan 23rd, have served on several juries in the past, and will serve this time if selected. Do I want to do this? No, not really. BUT, I don't feel I have a right to complain about things I don't like about our justice system if I don't willingly do my part when called. I just go, take a good book to read, and keep my fingers crossed that if I am called, it will be on some case that will keep me from falling asleep in the jury box.
God help the defendant!!!!
WesmanTexanfan
SeNior Smack
ooooooooooook this is old news.......... i got scared
Dallas_Texan
Waterboy
Back when I was in Houston, I had to go to Yoeman for a traffic violation I think, and first thing he did when he came in was say "man this is too much paperwork today, I need to clear some people out of here". Then he said "is there anyone here from the great state of Louisiana?", about 5 people raised there hands to try to get out of there, and he said, "Great, you five form a line on the right over here, you're all paying your fines, everyone else is free to go, you're dismissed!!!" He then told us how he was given a speeding ticket by a rude police officer in New Orleans, and this was his vengeance towards Louisiana! LOL
Koolaid Time
Drink Up!
Except if you are Texas Supreme Court Justice David "Firebug" Medina who got indicted by a Harris County Grand Jury for Arson..
The funny thing is that "Chucky" Rosenthal DIDN'T want Medina indicted, and is now going to DISMISS the case, regardless of the indictment.
Vinny
shiny happy fan
colossal waste of time charging Pitts for a FELONY in such a trivial matter. They don't care about wasting our time and money though....we just let em abuse it.