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Phillip Buchanon

And to add to that, we let Foreman go.....and then Sharper. Huh? You BOTH of our ILB go? then they move Wong over to ILB when he was doing a pretty good job at the ROLB spot. Our defense was finally starting click at the end of the season and we were maybe 1 or 2 impact players away from making this a very respectful defense. We then draft TJ in the 1st round, missing out on a chance to draft a solid offensive lineman. Ok, but since we gave up a 2nd and a 3rd on buchanon we lost at least 2 potential starters.
 
SESupergenius said:
And to add to that, we let Foreman go.....and then Sharper. Huh? You BOTH of our ILB go? then they move Wong over to ILB when he was doing a pretty good job at the ROLB spot. Our defense was finally starting click at the end of the season and we were maybe 1 or 2 impact players away from making this a very respectful defense. We then draft TJ in the 1st round, missing out on a chance to draft a solid offensive lineman. Ok, but since we gave up a 2nd and a 3rd on buchanon we lost at least 2 potential starters.
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The last eight weeks of the 2004 season our defense gave up 364 yards against Denver, 398 yards to Indy, 473 yards against Green Bay, 355 yards against Tennessee, 360 yards against the Jets, 382 yards against Indy, and 364 yards against Cleveland, and in the last 8 games our defense gave up an average of 24.5 points per game. I don't see how that puts our defense 1 or 2 players away from being respectful or consider it "clicking". And as far as drafting an offensive lineman, 3 linemen were taken in the 1st round of the last draft, two are playing RT and one playing LG. And as far as Foreman being let go, as far as I know, he is still unemployed after being cut by the Raiders.
 
I have mixed feelings about P-buc. He showed no heart earlyier in the year but he has began to actually bring a hit. Dunta is really rubbing off on him in a good way. Im not ready to ditch him for being burned in our coverage sceame (?) because even Dunta gets hurt in it. We have a pathetic zone coverage when our corners are most likly better on an island. This shows once again that our coaching staff has no flexability in the game plan and cant use our players strengths to our advantage.
 
texan279 said:
The last eight weeks of the 2004 season our defense gave up 364 yards against Denver, 398 yards to Indy, 473 yards against Green Bay, 355 yards against Tennessee, 360 yards against the Jets, 382 yards against Indy, and 364 yards against Cleveland, and in the last 8 games our defense gave up an average of 24.5 points per game. I don't see how that puts our defense 1 or 2 players away from being respectful or consider it "clicking". And as far as drafting an offensive lineman, 3 linemen were taken in the 1st round of the last draft, two are playing RT and one playing LG. And as far as Foreman being let go, as far as I know, he is still unemployed after being cut by the Raiders.
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I was basing it more on the last 4 games against Jacksonville, Bears, and Colts. The Browns game was just miserable all around, but the defense had 2 interceptions and allowed only 1 TD. We shut out the Jags, allowed 5 points against the Bears and played the Colts in of our closets games against them. So yes, I thought they were starting to come into their own and was hoping we would draft a couple of defensive guys. One would be a impact starter and the other a solid depth player. That all went out the window when we didn't sign our guys back and we let go of a couple of veterans. Addition by subtraction.....whoopee, I love that.
 
SESupergenius said:
And to add to that, we let Foreman go.....and then Sharper. Huh? You BOTH of our ILB go? then they move Wong over to ILB when he was doing a pretty good job at the ROLB spot. Our defense was finally starting click at the end of the season and we were maybe 1 or 2 impact players away from making this a very respectful defense. We then draft TJ in the 1st round, missing out on a chance to draft a solid offensive lineman. Ok, but since we gave up a 2nd and a 3rd on buchanon we lost at least 2 potential starters.
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Just watched the replay of the Jags Rams game and thank God we did not draft Alex Barron. He had 5 penalties in ONE quarter, and 3 penalties in a row on the same drive and I saw him get beat by the defender several times.
 
For all those debating the underthrown ball, Buchanon got a lucky finger on it, etc. ESPN Classic just had an end-zone cam of the last play of the Texans-Browns game. That ball was spot on and Buchanon made a hugely athletic play to get it. Give him his due for that play--he has been picked on a bunch this season, but on that play, he came up not just average, but huge (he out jumped Bryant by a mile). Doesn't matter how down on someone you are, when they come up big they deserve their praise.

Now, P-Buc, make it a consistant performance and you may, big may, be worth giving up Odell Thurman and Richie Icognito.
 
LOL faggins and P Buch One get burnt because hes watching the qb too much the other gets picked on because he doesnt look back enough. I think P Buch is making strides in learning the scheme... But he still has bad judgement he jumps routes at the wrong time, and gives the reciever way to much cushion at other times. I think since he was normally lined up against the deep threat rec. He needs to really get physical with them on the Jam I think alot of his problems, would go away if he can get in the receiver's head. but he is playing for the INT and not the incompletion so basically he gets the first look by offenses because they know he is over aggressive at trying to make a big play(int) rather than a play (tackle or deflection). If he wants to be a starter again he still has to do A TON of film study on his next asssignment and not rely on his ability. Runnin and jumping can only take you so far.. Faggins seems to lose sight of the ball and puts himself in bad positions to make a play by not looking back for the ball in time. So please Pbuch start watching films and know what your reciever is goin to do and blanket him.
 
infantrycak said:
For all those debating the underthrown ball, Buchanon got a lucky finger on it, etc. ESPN Classic just had an end-zone cam of the last play of the Texans-Browns game. That ball was spot on and Buchanon made a hugely athletic play to get it. Give him his due for that play--he has been picked on a bunch this season, but on that play, he came up not just average, but huge (he out jumped Bryant by a mile). Doesn't matter how down on someone you are, when they come up big they deserve their praise.

Now, P-Buc, make it a consistant performance and you may, big may, be worth giving up Odell Thurman and Richie Icognito.
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Good post, glad I am not the only one who thinks this. It was just an awesome play by PBuch. He broke on the ball exactly when he had to and made a big play. Ball was not underthrown and PBuch was not burnt in coverage.
 
also the safety bit on the decoy when the play was going to bryant. it was a quarter zone where p buch was playing to the sideline (playing against a 1st down rather than the TD since there was little under a min left).

i think he made a HUGE play no matter what anyone says. he won us that game with his athleticism. he jumped too soon but was able to tip it away and being able to recover from that - just a great play....

blame simmons for it being a real close call. not that i play the blame game though
 
Why is everyone so high on Pbuch for breaking up that pass at the end of the browns game? He got beat, and barely recovered in time to get a defended pass. That is what he is supposed to do. I don't understand why this deserves so much praise/an entire article on the houstontexans.com website
 
Speedy said:
Probably because it's a freaking miracle he made the play.
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Has anyone acctually read the article? It says we were playing quarter zone... this means he was responsible for the outside of the field while the saftey was responsible for the middle. The safety bit on the decoy runner underneath. P-Buch made a great play becasue he was able to get over in time and cover another persons part of the field. If that is not a play worthy of reognition, I dont know what is.:texflag:
 
gtexan02 said:
Why is everyone so high on Pbuch for breaking up that pass at the end of the browns game?
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It's not just that play (which just happened to preserve the win), but the guy stepped up and made others in what had to have been his best game as a Texan.

1st Quarter
2-9-HST 9 (:58) 31-W.Green right end to HST 10 for -1 yards (51-D.Polk; 31-P.Buchanon)

Stuck his pads up against a back about 40 lbs heavier. Much better red zone effort than P-Buch showed against the Steelers.

2nd Quarter
1-10-CLV 15 (13:18) 8-T.Dilfer pass incomplete to 17-B.Edwards (31-P.Buchanon).

Blanketed the rookie WR and deflected the pass. The type of play you've hoped to see when Buchanon was lined up in man coverage.

4-2-CLV 23 (12:21) 10-K.Richardson punts 53 yards to HST 24, Center-64-R.Pontbriand. 31-P.Buchanon to HST 44 for 20 yards (59-N.Speegle, 53-M.Unck). (Punt hang time 4.1 seconds.)

Took the punt straight up the middle without a lot of fluff. Gave the Texans good field position, that was squandered.

4th Quarter

2-9-HST 38 (1:09) (Shotgun) 8-T.Dilfer pass incomplete to 86-D.Northcutt (31-P.Buchanon).

This play on the Browns final drive was huge. Dilfer had his guy on the right sideline that would have put the Browns in FG range. Phillip stuck his helmet in the WR's ribs and knocked the ball loose.

Sure, he got lucky for not getting flagged on a holding call against Bryant. But, I'd rather Buchanon pull his guy down than catch a gimme TD. P-Buch doesn't have to be perfect. He just needs to give effort every game.

I thought the trade for Buchanon was bad when it was made, and I still do. But that's over. If Phillip wants to build on this game and continue to improve, the Texans will have a legit LCB. If he doesn't, flame him next week.
 
Wonder if PBs performance against the Browns will get him out of the doghouse and the nod to start against the Jags this weekend ? Faggins has not impressed in relief.
 
Ok Lucky, you've made a good point, he's had a pretty decent game. He needs to have a string of more good than bad however. He's still under a microscope.

He did however miss a play in a WR deep hook in his area this last game.....against the Browns, let's see how he does against the Jags and Colts.

The zone defense is good if we have players who know how to read an offense and we can get pressure from just 4 guys.
 
It does not make me feel any better that p-buch was burnt on that play (not to mention that he judged the pass wrong) but he did recover for some redemption. He cannot expect that luck every time and he really needs to focus more. IMO that is his biggest problem no focus, because physically he has got what it takes to be a shut down corner. His tackling is still bad IMO because although i see him throw his body around at players with some success he does not wrap up very well. The burden of proof is on him over the next few weeks whether he is improving or not.
 
TexHorns said:
It does not make me feel any better that p-buch was burnt on that play (not to mention that he judged the pass wrong) but he did recover for some redemption.
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Does it make you feel better to know thta it really wasn't his play to make, yet he did anyway? That was the safety's responsibility, who was not where he was supposed to be. P-Buch made the play purely on athleticism because he was covering the area he was supposed to be covering.
 
TexHorns said:
It does not make me feel any better that p-buch was burnt on that play (not to mention that he judged the pass wrong) but he did recover for some redemption. He cannot expect that luck every time and he really needs to focus more. IMO that is his biggest problem no focus, because physically he has got what it takes to be a shut down corner. His tackling is still bad IMO because although i see him throw his body around at players with some success he does not wrap up very well. The burden of proof is on him over the next few weeks whether he is improving or not.
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I have not seen many lucky CB's. Any luck that I have seen come their way is from the bad variety via poor calls from the referees. Their job may be the toughest on the field from a mental toughness standpoint.
 
eriadoc said:
Does it make you feel better to know thta it really wasn't his play to make, yet he did anyway? That was the safety's responsibility, who was not where he was supposed to be. P-Buch made the play purely on athleticism because he was covering the area he was supposed to be covering.
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your good you....fast typer person
 
ccdude730 said:
the reason everyone thinks he got burnt is because simmons got out of position.
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Good point. You're right I didn't think of the safeties but I still think he has to alot to prove if he wants to be the starter opposite D-Rob.
 
TexHorns said:
Good point. You're right I didn't think of the safeties but I still think he has to alot to prove if he wants to be the starter opposite D-Rob.
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he still has alot to prove, but based on his athleticism he wont be lower than the 3rd cb. he is starting to play better than his 1st 2 games so i dont see a reason for the progression to end.
 
gtexan02 said:
Why is everyone so high on Pbuch for breaking up that pass at the end of the browns game? He got beat, and barely recovered in time to get a defended pass. That is what he is supposed to do. I don't understand why this deserves so much praise/an entire article on the houstontexans.com website
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Why does Adam Vinatieri get so much attention when he kicks that game-winning fieldgoal when he's just doing his job? Well, sometimes "doing your job" has a direct impact on the result of the game. That is how most people value players, that is, if they step up when it's win/lose situations.
 
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