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I've been waiting for this thread to die down a bit before addressing certain points, and even though the thread-originator may or may not ever see them, I figured I'd address them anyway just to get them off my chest.

First off, for anyone that DOESN'T know, I am a member of the BPPB, have been since Day One. While I may not know as much detail on football as many people who post here, that doesn't diminish my love for the sport. Not every fan knows every thing going on at all times. I don't think that makes me any less of a fan. And I'm still learning.

Now, to address his points.

Name calling: The BPPB was called a "true embarrassment", "a joke", "Clowns", "Bush league", and "goofy".

Nice stuff. I have no response to these statements, other than to say I found them entertaining.

Behaviors cited: We have "goofy behavior", "a bunch of goofy middle aged men acting like buffoons", "They act like clowns because, well, that's exactly what they are... CLOWNS.", "foolishness", and "the demeanor of the members."

More nice stuff. I'm not sure exactly what any of it means, since there were no examples cited. I'm still quite entertained.

Insults. I must address these individually:
"Every Houston area high school would be embarrassed to have them on the sidelines on a Friday night." Why? Have you actually ever watched a HS band in the stands at a game? Do you expect them to sit calmly with their hands folded on their laps, whispering quietly to their neighbors and clapping politely?

"If ya'll like goofiness, perhaps you would feel more at home at halftime during Rice home games.... At least they have talent."

And what instrument(s) can YOU play, Mr. Expert? If you're such a great critic of our abilities as musicians, why not try out for the band and take one of our spots? Hmm? I noticed you cited your Kinesiology degree. Do you also have a Music degree? I have one. So do most of the members of the BPPB. Many of us give up higher paying gigs to do what we do on gamedays. As for the part about comparing us to the Rice Band, I haven't heard them in about 20 years (back when this middle-aged buffoon was in college), but from what I remember, they had some talented players who had fun doing what they were doing. I don't have anything to base it on, so I will not insult the Rice Band members by trying to draw comparisons. Besides, we're a PEP band, not a MARCHING band. Apples and oranges.

"DaGeneral, I don't think the "Pep Band" goofballs are anxiously awaiting my response, I suspect they've already posted in here. It appears that some of these bumpkins are a little nervous."

To my knowledge, only 2 of us have posted here. The majority of the people who've responded to this thread are just regular Texans fans. And yes, many (not all) of them are my friends. Friends I wouldn't have ever met if it hadn't been for the Texans and this message board and the sweet gig I found 5 years ago playing at Texans games. But when this thread appeared, I emailed a link for it to the entire BPPB so they could see what people say about them. They're not NERVOUS, they're curious. If somebody started a thread entitled "4x4 Tahoe = Embarrassment", you'd read it too.

"My problem with them is that they are bush league." Bush league is a slang term meaning "not of the highest quality or sophistication". Ok...it's a FOOTBALL GAME! WHAT DO YOU WANT? THE FREAKING HOUSTON SYMPHONY??? Hey, nobody is more aware of the mistakes we make than we are. Nobody ever claimed we were PERFECT, but geez dude...see my above comments about musical talent. Me personally, I've been playing an instrument for over 30 years, and many of the guys and girls have been playing even longer. If you want to talk ability, I can assure you that virtually every person in that band could walk into any band room in the state and instantly become the top player on their instrument. There are no slackers in that group as far as ability. But even still, we all make mistakes. Peyton Manning is arguably the best QB in the league, but he still throws interceptions once in a while. With one exception, every NFL team loses games every year. I think you'd be hard-pressed to find better musicians in this town to replace anyone of the BPPB members.

"It is my opinion that this band is pitiful." Ok, fine it's your opinion and I respect that. I don't AGREE with it one bit.

"Well, act like a man instead of a clown. Tell your buddies to do the same. Problem solved." I had to include this one, because the person he responded to was a WOman.

"what a bunch of band geeks!" Actually, if this is supposed to be some sort of insult, I don't quite get it. Maybe I am one of these "band geeks". So what? What is this, the movie Revenge of the Nerds? Is your little name-calling supposed to make me crawl away and hide my head in shame? Sorry dude, it doesn't work like that.

"The few minutes the “peppers” gave us at halftime Saturday dragged on longer than the 45 minutes of misery the Clear Lake high band gives us every Friday night in November!" Not having seen Clear Lake HS Band in a long time, I can't quite argue with this. See below for comments on the halftime performance.

RESPONSES TO SOME COMMENTS FROM OTHER PEOPLE
(Silver Oak): I don't find them to be an embarrasment other than the fact they play out of tune, but I'm sure other teams bands comprised of fans are generally no better.

Agreed. The tuning issues should be addressed more. A lot of it comes from the changes in temperature from outside to inside, the long waits in between playing, and general lack of attention to detail. This problem will get fully addressed, and you should hear some improvement in that category.

(Disaaks3): The band's halftime performances are another thing....it isn't Lamar's fault, but somebody REALLY needs to learn how to mike the band properly. Over the past two seasons I've heard "Thus Spake Zarathustra" & now "YMCA" (two VERY recognizable songs) come out of the speakers so weakly that I couldn't have told you what the tune was with a gun to my head.

I'm not sure why, but we only had 4 mikes on the field for halftime last week. We tried to strategically place them, but it's really a big guessing game.

I'm going to go out on a limb here and state what is MY opinion, and mine ONLY. I'm not a fan of playing on the field. It's not the type of band that we are. We are at our best out in the lots, getting that close personal interaction thing going. And to have the punter come out and kick through us like what happened last season really made it kind of the last straw for me. I do it because I'm a team player, and if they say we're doing it I don't question. But I don't like it, and I think it diminishes our band every time we do it. Lamar is aware of my opinion.

(Double Barrel): I wish they would mike the band better, though. Going from pre-recorded music to the band is a big dropoff. With the kind of money the franchise has to put on these events, they need to get a sound engineer that understands the concept of miking a live band for a PA system.

Same topic as the last one. We HAVE a great mic system, and the sound engineer understands. The problem is probably more related to how much time we have than anything else. 5 minutes to get out there, set up, play, and get off the field. Just another reason I don't care for doing it, but I'm not a decision-maker on these sorts of things.

Well, if you've read all this, I hope you understand where we're coming from. Or at least where I'M coming from.

My thanks to everyone who has supported what we do, whether it's here or out in the lots or anywhere around the stadium on gamedays. We're really just a bunch of football fans that happen to have a talent that gives us the chance to experience NFL football games live on our somewhat limited teacher's salaries. We have fun, we horse around, we cheer, we're excited when we do well, and disappointed when we do poorly. If our actions offend you, try to realize that we're just regular people too. There are many people who I don't care for (even some at Texans games!), but I don't go onto message boards calling them names. See if you can manage to do the same. You never know, you might actually find that we're some pretty decent people.

WOW, my hands are tired!
 
Da_General said:
I've been waiting for this thread to die down a bit before addressing certain points, and even though the thread-originator may or may not ever see them, I figured I'd address them anyway just to get them off my chest.

First off, for anyone that DOESN'T know, I am a member of the BPPB, have been since Day One. While I may not know as much detail on football as many people who post here, that doesn't diminish my love for the sport. Not every fan knows every thing going on at all times. I don't think that makes me any less of a fan. And I'm still learning.

Now, to address his points.

Name calling: The BPPB was called a "true embarrassment", "a joke", "Clowns", "Bush league", and "goofy".

Nice stuff. I have no response to these statements, other than to say I found them entertaining.

Behaviors cited: We have "goofy behavior", "a bunch of goofy middle aged men acting like buffoons", "They act like clowns because, well, that's exactly what they are... CLOWNS.", "foolishness", and "the demeanor of the members."

More nice stuff. I'm not sure exactly what any of it means, since there were no examples cited. I'm still quite entertained.

Insults. I must address these individually:
"Every Houston area high school would be embarrassed to have them on the sidelines on a Friday night." Why? Have you actually ever watched a HS band in the stands at a game? Do you expect them to sit calmly with their hands folded on their laps, whispering quietly to their neighbors and clapping politely?

"If ya'll like goofiness, perhaps you would feel more at home at halftime during Rice home games.... At least they have talent."

And what instrument(s) can YOU play, Mr. Expert? If you're such a great critic of our abilities as musicians, why not try out for the band and take one of our spots? Hmm? I noticed you cited your Kinesiology degree. Do you also have a Music degree? I have one. So do most of the members of the BPPB. Many of us give up higher paying gigs to do what we do on gamedays. As for the part about comparing us to the Rice Band, I haven't heard them in about 20 years (back when this middle-aged buffoon was in college), but from what I remember, they had some talented players who had fun doing what they were doing. I don't have anything to base it on, so I will not insult the Rice Band members by trying to draw comparisons. Besides, we're a PEP band, not a MARCHING band. Apples and oranges.

"DaGeneral, I don't think the "Pep Band" goofballs are anxiously awaiting my response, I suspect they've already posted in here. It appears that some of these bumpkins are a little nervous."

To my knowledge, only 2 of us have posted here. The majority of the people who've responded to this thread are just regular Texans fans. And yes, many (not all) of them are my friends. Friends I wouldn't have ever met if it hadn't been for the Texans and this message board and the sweet gig I found 5 years ago playing at Texans games. But when this thread appeared, I emailed a link for it to the entire BPPB so they could see what people say about them. They're not NERVOUS, they're curious. If somebody started a thread entitled "4x4 Tahoe = Embarrassment", you'd read it too.

"My problem with them is that they are bush league." Bush league is a slang term meaning "not of the highest quality or sophistication". Ok...it's a FOOTBALL GAME! WHAT DO YOU WANT? THE FREAKING HOUSTON SYMPHONY??? Hey, nobody is more aware of the mistakes we make than we are. Nobody ever claimed we were PERFECT, but geez dude...see my above comments about musical talent. Me personally, I've been playing an instrument for over 30 years, and many of the guys and girls have been playing even longer. If you want to talk ability, I can assure you that virtually every person in that band could walk into any band room in the state and instantly become the top player on their instrument. There are no slackers in that group as far as ability. But even still, we all make mistakes. Peyton Manning is arguably the best QB in the league, but he still throws interceptions once in a while. With one exception, every NFL team loses games every year. I think you'd be hard-pressed to find better musicians in this town to replace anyone of the BPPB members.

"It is my opinion that this band is pitiful." Ok, fine it's your opinion and I respect that. I don't AGREE with it one bit.

"Well, act like a man instead of a clown. Tell your buddies to do the same. Problem solved." I had to include this one, because the person he responded to was a WOman.

"what a bunch of band geeks!" Actually, if this is supposed to be some sort of insult, I don't quite get it. Maybe I am one of these "band geeks". So what? What is this, the movie Revenge of the Nerds? Is your little name-calling supposed to make me crawl away and hide my head in shame? Sorry dude, it doesn't work like that.

"The few minutes the “peppers” gave us at halftime Saturday dragged on longer than the 45 minutes of misery the Clear Lake high band gives us every Friday night in November!" Not having seen Clear Lake HS Band in a long time, I can't quite argue with this. See below for comments on the halftime performance.

RESPONSES TO SOME COMMENTS FROM OTHER PEOPLE
(Silver Oak): I don't find them to be an embarrasment other than the fact they play out of tune, but I'm sure other teams bands comprised of fans are generally no better.

Agreed. The tuning issues should be addressed more. A lot of it comes from the changes in temperature from outside to inside, the long waits in between playing, and general lack of attention to detail. This problem will get fully addressed, and you should hear some improvement in that category.

(Disaaks3): The band's halftime performances are another thing....it isn't Lamar's fault, but somebody REALLY needs to learn how to mike the band properly. Over the past two seasons I've heard "Thus Spake Zarathustra" & now "YMCA" (two VERY recognizable songs) come out of the speakers so weakly that I couldn't have told you what the tune was with a gun to my head.

I'm not sure why, but we only had 4 mikes on the field for halftime last week. We tried to strategically place them, but it's really a big guessing game.

I'm going to go out on a limb here and state what is MY opinion, and mine ONLY. I'm not a fan of playing on the field. It's not the type of band that we are. We are at our best out in the lots, getting that close personal interaction thing going. And to have the punter come out and kick through us like what happened last season really made it kind of the last straw for me. I do it because I'm a team player, and if they say we're doing it I don't question. But I don't like it, and I think it diminishes our band every time we do it. Lamar is aware of my opinion.

(Double Barrel): I wish they would mike the band better, though. Going from pre-recorded music to the band is a big dropoff. With the kind of money the franchise has to put on these events, they need to get a sound engineer that understands the concept of miking a live band for a PA system.

Same topic as the last one. We HAVE a great mic system, and the sound engineer understands. The problem is probably more related to how much time we have than anything else. 5 minutes to get out there, set up, play, and get off the field. Just another reason I don't care for doing it, but I'm not a decision-maker on these sorts of things.

Well, if you've read all this, I hope you understand where we're coming from. Or at least where I'M coming from.

My thanks to everyone who has supported what we do, whether it's here or out in the lots or anywhere around the stadium on gamedays. We're really just a bunch of football fans that happen to have a talent that gives us the chance to experience NFL football games live on our somewhat limited teacher's salaries. We have fun, we horse around, we cheer, we're excited when we do well, and disappointed when we do poorly. If our actions offend you, try to realize that we're just regular people too. There are many people who I don't care for (even some at Texans games!), but I don't go onto message boards calling them names. See if you can manage to do the same. You never know, you might actually find that we're some pretty decent people.

WOW, my hands are tired!
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true dat i play saxaphone
 
I played trumpet in a pep band and marching band for 10 years (middle school, high school, college). I've played in the Alamo dome, the Astro Dome, Kyle Field....a lot of places, lets just put it like that. Its VERY hard, damn near impossible, to keep an instrument tuned going from your warm up area to the environment of a stadium. Metals expand and contract with temperature, and the tiniest vibrations have an effect on pitch and quality. As far as the halftime goes....there are very few things more difficult then walking and playing an instrument. Your airflow is different, your base is too, and it affects tonality. Couple that with low setup time, and its no wonder that things can't always sound great. In really large, field marching bands, your individual sound is always covered a bit, so you can afford to drop out in the middle of a song for a few seconds to readjust tuning on the fly, but in a pep band, you can't do that. Everybody is a vital leg to the metaphorical table. I just wanted to say thanks again to the BPPB, you do a great job, and I wish me and my Schilke could be out there with you every sunday.
 
Da_General said:
I've been waiting for this thread to die down a bit before addressing certain points, and even though the thread-originator may or may not ever see them, I figured I'd address them anyway just to get them off my chest.

First off, for anyone that DOESN'T know, I am a member of the BPPB, have been since Day One. While I may not know as much detail on football as many people who post here, that doesn't diminish my love for the sport. Not every fan knows every thing going on at all times. I don't think that makes me any less of a fan. And I'm still learning.

Now, to address his points.

Name calling: The BPPB was called a "true embarrassment", "a joke", "Clowns", "Bush league", and "goofy".

Nice stuff. I have no response to these statements, other than to say I found them entertaining.

Behaviors cited: We have "goofy behavior", "a bunch of goofy middle aged men acting like buffoons", "They act like clowns because, well, that's exactly what they are... CLOWNS.", "foolishness", and "the demeanor of the members."

More nice stuff. I'm not sure exactly what any of it means, since there were no examples cited. I'm still quite entertained.

Insults. I must address these individually:
"Every Houston area high school would be embarrassed to have them on the sidelines on a Friday night." Why? Have you actually ever watched a HS band in the stands at a game? Do you expect them to sit calmly with their hands folded on their laps, whispering quietly to their neighbors and clapping politely?

"If ya'll like goofiness, perhaps you would feel more at home at halftime during Rice home games.... At least they have talent."

And what instrument(s) can YOU play, Mr. Expert? If you're such a great critic of our abilities as musicians, why not try out for the band and take one of our spots? Hmm? I noticed you cited your Kinesiology degree. Do you also have a Music degree? I have one. So do most of the members of the BPPB. Many of us give up higher paying gigs to do what we do on gamedays. As for the part about comparing us to the Rice Band, I haven't heard them in about 20 years (back when this middle-aged buffoon was in college), but from what I remember, they had some talented players who had fun doing what they were doing. I don't have anything to base it on, so I will not insult the Rice Band members by trying to draw comparisons. Besides, we're a PEP band, not a MARCHING band. Apples and oranges.

"DaGeneral, I don't think the "Pep Band" goofballs are anxiously awaiting my response, I suspect they've already posted in here. It appears that some of these bumpkins are a little nervous."

To my knowledge, only 2 of us have posted here. The majority of the people who've responded to this thread are just regular Texans fans. And yes, many (not all) of them are my friends. Friends I wouldn't have ever met if it hadn't been for the Texans and this message board and the sweet gig I found 5 years ago playing at Texans games. But when this thread appeared, I emailed a link for it to the entire BPPB so they could see what people say about them. They're not NERVOUS, they're curious. If somebody started a thread entitled "4x4 Tahoe = Embarrassment", you'd read it too.

"My problem with them is that they are bush league." Bush league is a slang term meaning "not of the highest quality or sophistication". Ok...it's a FOOTBALL GAME! WHAT DO YOU WANT? THE FREAKING HOUSTON SYMPHONY??? Hey, nobody is more aware of the mistakes we make than we are. Nobody ever claimed we were PERFECT, but geez dude...see my above comments about musical talent. Me personally, I've been playing an instrument for over 30 years, and many of the guys and girls have been playing even longer. If you want to talk ability, I can assure you that virtually every person in that band could walk into any band room in the state and instantly become the top player on their instrument. There are no slackers in that group as far as ability. But even still, we all make mistakes. Peyton Manning is arguably the best QB in the league, but he still throws interceptions once in a while. With one exception, every NFL team loses games every year. I think you'd be hard-pressed to find better musicians in this town to replace anyone of the BPPB members.

"It is my opinion that this band is pitiful." Ok, fine it's your opinion and I respect that. I don't AGREE with it one bit.

"Well, act like a man instead of a clown. Tell your buddies to do the same. Problem solved." I had to include this one, because the person he responded to was a WOman.

"what a bunch of band geeks!" Actually, if this is supposed to be some sort of insult, I don't quite get it. Maybe I am one of these "band geeks". So what? What is this, the movie Revenge of the Nerds? Is your little name-calling supposed to make me crawl away and hide my head in shame? Sorry dude, it doesn't work like that.

"The few minutes the “peppers” gave us at halftime Saturday dragged on longer than the 45 minutes of misery the Clear Lake high band gives us every Friday night in November!" Not having seen Clear Lake HS Band in a long time, I can't quite argue with this. See below for comments on the halftime performance.

RESPONSES TO SOME COMMENTS FROM OTHER PEOPLE
(Silver Oak): I don't find them to be an embarrasment other than the fact they play out of tune, but I'm sure other teams bands comprised of fans are generally no better.

Agreed. The tuning issues should be addressed more. A lot of it comes from the changes in temperature from outside to inside, the long waits in between playing, and general lack of attention to detail. This problem will get fully addressed, and you should hear some improvement in that category.

(Disaaks3): The band's halftime performances are another thing....it isn't Lamar's fault, but somebody REALLY needs to learn how to mike the band properly. Over the past two seasons I've heard "Thus Spake Zarathustra" & now "YMCA" (two VERY recognizable songs) come out of the speakers so weakly that I couldn't have told you what the tune was with a gun to my head.

I'm not sure why, but we only had 4 mikes on the field for halftime last week. We tried to strategically place them, but it's really a big guessing game.

I'm going to go out on a limb here and state what is MY opinion, and mine ONLY. I'm not a fan of playing on the field. It's not the type of band that we are. We are at our best out in the lots, getting that close personal interaction thing going. And to have the punter come out and kick through us like what happened last season really made it kind of the last straw for me. I do it because I'm a team player, and if they say we're doing it I don't question. But I don't like it, and I think it diminishes our band every time we do it. Lamar is aware of my opinion.

(Double Barrel): I wish they would mike the band better, though. Going from pre-recorded music to the band is a big dropoff. With the kind of money the franchise has to put on these events, they need to get a sound engineer that understands the concept of miking a live band for a PA system.

Same topic as the last one. We HAVE a great mic system, and the sound engineer understands. The problem is probably more related to how much time we have than anything else. 5 minutes to get out there, set up, play, and get off the field. Just another reason I don't care for doing it, but I'm not a decision-maker on these sorts of things.

Well, if you've read all this, I hope you understand where we're coming from. Or at least where I'M coming from.

My thanks to everyone who has supported what we do, whether it's here or out in the lots or anywhere around the stadium on gamedays. We're really just a bunch of football fans that happen to have a talent that gives us the chance to experience NFL football games live on our somewhat limited teacher's salaries. We have fun, we horse around, we cheer, we're excited when we do well, and disappointed when we do poorly. If our actions offend you, try to realize that we're just regular people too. There are many people who I don't care for (even some at Texans games!), but I don't go onto message boards calling them names. See if you can manage to do the same. You never know, you might actually find that we're some pretty decent people.

WOW, my hands are tired!
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You guys do a great job. No need to let this guy get under your skin. I would say that 80% of us never play instruments or have been in a band. Keep up the good work.:fans:
 
Good post, Da General. :thumbup

I've talked with many fans - not forum or band members - the past day or so and ALL of them dig the pep band. I'd venture that the overwhelming majority of folks feel the same way. Don't let one guy steal your joy! You guys rock and we appreciate what you do for the tailgating and stadium atmosphere.

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Maybe it's just me, but it looks to me like we can drop this thread, and watch it fade to the back pages of the message board...
 
Texan_Lee said:
Maybe it's just me, but it looks to me like we can drop this thread, and watch it fade to the back pages of the message board...
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I told him he could come back if he would drop the insults...but he just insulted me when I asked him...so...well, :heart:

ps he started the same thread but with more insults at houstontexans.com...I kicked im out over there too. He complained to high heaven about me...I'm currently dealing with the situation with the corporate comrades now.
 
Vinny said:
I told him he could come back if he would drop the insults...but he just insulted me when I asked him...so...well, :heart:

ps he started the same thread but with more insults at houstontexans.com...I kicked im out over there too. He complained to high heaven about me...I'm currently dealing with the situation with the corporate comrades now.
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Dang, some people just don't know when to quit, do they?
 
I bet that shocked him that Vinny is God of the Texans boards and he got the boot in both places haha.
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The powers that be probably want to cave because they do not want to upset even one fan and that is just wrong. They should let those here who have made their feelings known about what we think of this turd and how highly the band is regarded.
 
The Texans are usually don't want trolls who insult the cheerleaders or the band or the members....or anyone who is connected with the org....it's just that most every time someone like this complains they lie about how I deal with them.

I think I've been fair with him....my only stip for this guy was to post without insulting people...that has been too much for him.
 
I just don't understand how a band at a football game could be embarrassing. He also went to the extreme of bashing on a High School band. I go to every Pearland game that is at home or around the area (ClearLake is in our district) and I have to say the band makes the football atmoshere electric.

I do not sit near the band, but I damn sure would if the wife would let me spend the money to upgrade.

Off with his head! :pirate:
 
Elle said:
Vinny,

Have you linked headquarters to THIS thread so they can see what the response was?

Just curious.
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personally, I don't think this is a big issue...one voice of a fan who has never posted anything but insults....then complains that I'm unfair after I told him he could post as long as he wasn't insulting anyone. He doesn't have much ground to stand on....so I ain't gonna worry about him after...about....right now.
 
Vinny said:
personally, I don't think this is a big issue...one voice of a fan who has never posted anything but insults....then complains that I'm unfair after I told him he could post as long as he wasn't insulting anyone. He doesn't have much ground to stand on....so I ain't gonna worry about him after...about....right now.
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Me either Vinny!! Unfortunately, the Texans have trolls also.

Speaking of bands though. Reading this guys insults about bands brought back memories of the old Oiler days when High School or College bands had seats right on the sideline, played before the game and at halftime. GREAT music, terrific kids who would NEVER have gotten to see a professional football game if not for that opportunity. Personally, I miss entertainment like that. Remember OCEAN OF SOUL?? Fans actually stayed in their seats at halftime to watch that band!! Good memories!!
 
Vinny said:
The Texans are usually don't want trolls who insult the cheerleaders or the band or the members....or anyone who is connected with the org....it's just that most every time someone like this complains they lie about how I deal with them.

I think I've been fair with him....my only stip for this guy was to post without insulting people...that has been too much for him.
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I'm with you, Vinny. That guy doesn't have a clue. The 'whole' experience of going to an NFL game is an attempt to satisfy a lot of different taste--usually, if someone doesn't like something, they go a 'few' feet away...see/ hear whatever..

...now, these trolls that won't post on the Panthers board, that's strange...
 
SheTexan said:
Me either Vinny!! Unfortunately, the Texans have trolls also.

Speaking of bands though. Reading this guys insults about bands brought back memories of the old Oiler days when High School or College bands had seats right on the sideline, played before the game and at halftime. GREAT music, terrific kids who would NEVER have gotten to see a professional football game if not for that opportunity. Personally, I miss entertainment like that. Remember OCEAN OF SOUL?? Fans actually stayed in their seats at halftime to watch that band!! Good memories!!
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...nice memory-bands and fans enjoyed the shows--ask McNair to bring them back
 
SheTexan said:
Me either Vinny!! Unfortunately, the Texans have trolls also.

Speaking of bands though. Reading this guys insults about bands brought back memories of the old Oiler days when High School or College bands had seats right on the sideline, played before the game and at halftime. GREAT music, terrific kids who would NEVER have gotten to see a professional football game if not for that opportunity. Personally, I miss entertainment like that. Remember OCEAN OF SOUL?? Fans actually stayed in their seats at halftime to watch that band!! Good memories!!
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I remember those Oiler days as well as the Ocean of Soul. The Ocean is stilll very entertaining although I am partial to Prairie View's Marching Storm. One of my best memories in the Dome was a night game with the Oilers against Buffalo. Thurman Thomas was the Bills running back and his former high school band, Willowridge, did the pregame and half time show. That evening, Barbara Tucker sang God Bless America in soprano that could break glasses, and a high spirited show that I wish I had a tape. Best of all, the Oilers won the game.

Back in those days, the Oilers always invited local bands to play at halftime. I have a picture on a plaque of the Willowridge Eagle band in the form of the State of Texas in the Astrodome. I believe it was their last performance before the Oilers left.

At any rate, the poster was unreasonably rude, and if he didn't care to tone down the offense to a mere differing of opinion, then the change is welcome.
 
4x4Tahoe said:
LOL. Sorry chief, I don't sugar coat things in hopes not to hurt anyones' feelings. Then again, I didn't call anyone out specifically. You just did. I'm not offended, that is life. Speech is free in this country and you're entitled not only your opinion, but the right to communicate that opinion. It is my opinion that this band is pitiful. To censor that is no better than- I won't get in to politics. But even if you did "ban my IP"... this is the internet. Grow up bud.

I'm a sorry excuse for a Texans fan because I want us to succeed on the field while obtaining a stigma of class off the field??? I think you're a sorry excuse for a fan because you're looking out for your band buddies instead of opening your eyes and wanting what's best for the organization.

Perhaps I'll put my Kinesiology/Sports Psychology degree to use with the Texans organization, and rid ourselves from your goofy bandmates. I have a buddy interning with them right now who has told me that I am not the only one who has contacted them with their displeasure for the "Pep Band"......
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And you guys blamed it on Carr .
 
Tahoe is complaining about the band again on the other message board. He even takes a little potshot at this board. Oh well. Some people are never happy.
 
I will be brief and to the point. The Pep Band is great and they work hard. If someone doesn't like them then don't go to our games. We are lucky to have the band.:fans: :fans: :fans: :fans:
 
We've got people representing every lot in this forum. Before the Texans FO gets the idea that fans don't want the pep band because of one squeaky wheel, I say we start petitions of support for the band. It just needs to be something simple, and we can take the combined petitions from all lots and send them to the FO together.

Regular tailgaters represent a mighty aspect of the fanbase, because these are the hardcore fans who have stuck with the team through five years of futility. I think our voices need to be heard, as well. The band is worth the effort, IMO, and it's the least we can do after all the work that they've put into it all these years.
 
Double Barrel said:
We've got people representing every lot in this forum. Before the Texans FO gets the idea that fans don't want the pep band because of one squeaky wheel, I say we start petitions of support for the band. It just needs to be something simple, and we can take the combined petitions from all lots and send them to the FO together.

Regular tailgaters represent a mighty aspect of the fanbase, because these are the hardcore fans who have stuck with the team through five years of futility. I think our voices need to be heard, as well. The band is worth the effort, IMO, and it's the least we can do after all the work that they've put into it all these years.
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I will sign it!!

BTW, the guy who shall remain nameless gave me a negative rep!!
 
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