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Patriots TE Aaron Hernandez to be Questioned

The Pencil Neck said:
Carruth was Conspiracy To Commit Murder. He didn't actually pull the trigger, but he ordered a guy to do it and stopped the car so the guy could do it.

And apparently all because the woman wouldn't get an abortion.
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I guess he was unwilling to deal with the overwhelming stigma that fathering a child out of wedlock imposes upon high-profile professional athletes in today's society. :kitten:
 
HOU-TEX said:
Maybe I've missed it, but has anyone read the details of the murder? They're saying it was an execution type murder? How was the guy murdered to make it execution style?
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"Execution Style" usually means the victim was defenseless, frequently bound in some way, and shot at close range... usually to the head.

I don't know about MA but "execution style" murders frequently trigger a death penalty situation.
 
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I don't understand why Hernandez would kill someone or dump a body so close to his house...

That's just weird.
 
The Pencil Neck said:
"Execution Style" usually means the victim was defenseless, frequently bound in some way, and shot at close range... usually to the head.

I don't know about MA but "execution style" murders frequently trigger a death penalty situation.
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One of many reports:
Hernandez, 23, has been at the center of the investigation since the body of Lloyd, a 27-year-old semi-pro football player, was found shot in the back of the head Monday in an industrial park near Hernandez's home in North Attleborough.
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..............back of the head.......classic "execution style."
 
Rey said:
I don't understand why Hernandez would kill someone or dump a body so close to his house...

That's just weird.
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Im sure all parties involved were high or drunk after leaving the club. Altercation arose and the thugs didnt hesitate to take his life away. Im sure the next morning once he sobered up he knew he fkd up..
 
Rey said:
I don't understand why Hernandez would kill someone or dump a body so close to his house...

That's just weird.
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He felt he was above the law.

He had shot another man in the face just months earlier with zero repercussions whatsoever.

He was ignorant to how many video cameras document your whereabouts theses days.

He was confidant his fellow gangsters would never snitch.

He was in a rage.

Gangsters aren't typically accused of being smart -- prisons are filled with them. Prisons are also full of murderers who thought they could out think the cops/courts/law and get away with it, too. Tall task.
 
The Pencil Neck said:
"Execution Style" usually means the victim was defenseless, frequently bound in some way, and shot at close range... usually to the head.

I don't know about MA but "execution style" murders frequently trigger a death penalty situation.
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ChampionTexan said:
No death penalty in Mass.
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Hernandez's bad luck may only be the beginning!:choke:

April 23 2013 7:13 PM

The Boston Marathon bombings prompted a group of state legislators to introduce a bill Tuesday to reinstate the death penalty in Massachusetts, which abolished it in 1984.

According to the Boston Globe, the bipartisan group said that as a response to crime last week, the commonwealth of Massachusetts should again have the option to execute prisoners.
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The rest of the story
 
Tailgate said:
@WesleyLowery To be clear: DA's saying #hernandez shot Lloyd three times right after Lloyd got out of the car. Then stood over him & put two in his chest.
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Thanks. This is the first time they are reporting this........other reports to date then must be invalid.

Wonder if he shot him in back of the head........he fell down face up and then shot him twice more in the chest? The police may have kept back the other info till now in case they had legitimate witnesses to fully describe the events.
 
Hernandez isn't an athlete that got caught up in a bad situation because of the bad company he kept. This fool is every bit the scumbag thug his friends are except this clown was a pro athlete worth millions. Now he'll be just like those bumbs too. Broke and doing time.
 
Porky said:
I just saw he was charged with murder. Wow. The NFL cannot be happy at all with one of it's star players being charged with murder. This goes well beyond the Ray Lewis type incident.

Has there been another currently active player charged with murder in the modern era? I can't think of any although a bunch have gotten into legal hot water.

If by some miracle, he is acquitted, his NFL career is toast. At the moment, I suspect he has bigger fish to fry.

As for the Pats, they rely on the TE so much it's not funny. Now one of their two main cogs is up on murder charges, and the other one is injured. Mr. Brady cannot be too happy. I do know this though - BB will make adjustments. That's part of what makes him a great coach. He won't try to fit a round peg into a square hole. Brady will make adjustments too. And they may not be a SB team this year, but they'll find a way to be good. They always do.
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Agreed. He was also a prominent Hispanic superstar player in a league with very few of them. I am sure the NFL wanted to sell him and Victor Cruz as two Hispanic Superstars to increase the interest level within that community. Losing Hernandez is a big blow in that effort.
 
So essentially this dude who just had a baby and just signed a 40 million contract to further his career in the NFL... Threw it all away by murdering a dude because he was communicating w/ group he had "beef" with?? Its really hard to understand.
 
From PFT:

The presentation of evidence from prosecutor Bill McCauley at Wednesday’s arraignment was confusing on at least one point: The whereabouts of the two men who allegedly were in the car on the evening in question with Hernandez and Odin Lloyd.

At one point, it seemed that the authorities had obtained cooperation from one or both men, given McCauley’s summary of the conversation that occurred in the car, when Hernandez said he couldn’t “trust” anyone. At another point, it seemed that the two other men are still at large.

Meanwhile, we still don’t know who they are, and their names were not disclosed in court.

So they’re either cooperating with police, which is very bad for Hernandez. Or they are on the loose, which could be very bad for everyone else.
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CloakNNNdagger said:
Hernandez's bad luck may only be the beginning!:choke:

The rest of the story
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From later in that same article:

Ultimately, however, the Massachusetts House of Representatives voted to shelve the bill 119-38, according to the Associated Press. Instead, the proposal will be sent to a committee for further review and study.
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And while I don't pretend to know the specifics, my guess is that even if something ultimately passes, there's a chance it won't apply to any crimes committed prior to that passing.
 
ChampionTexan said:
From later in that same article:



And while I don't pretend to know the specifics, my guess is that even if something ultimately passes, there's a chance it won't apply to any crimes committed prior to that passing.
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You may be correct about the latter, but I could swear that I followed a case with this same scenario, and the death penalty was entertained since the verdict was not in until the law changed. Would like to hear how it works from an attorney here?
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
You may be correct about the latter, but I could swear that I followed a case with this same scenario, and the death penalty was entertained since the verdict was not in until the law changed. Would like to hear how it works from an attorney here?
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It pretty much works as the legislature chooses to implement so they could say pending cases in which trial has not begun or as of the date of passage or at some specified future date. I do not think they could apply it to cases in which trial has already started. However there would be challenges about a change in law after the act to a harsher punishment is fundamentally unfair.
 
I keep seeing video on sports center of him in cuffs after being arrested, going into jail, the court room and he just seems meh about it. Maybe I'm a ***** but I'd be pretty upset if I was in that spot
 
Doppelganger said:
Agreed. He was also a prominent Hispanic superstar player in a league with very few of them. I am sure the NFL wanted to sell him and Victor Cruz as two Hispanic Superstars to increase the interest level within that community. Losing Hernandez is a big blow in that effort.
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I guess we'll just have to hold on to tony Gonzalez when we think of a great nfl TE.
 
Murder 1 is a pretty tough charge to get to stick but it sounds like they have a staggering amount of evidence pointing Hernandez as the trigger man and that he planned this killing.

Makes Rae Carruth look like a criminal mastermind.
 
Well the Patriots finally had one of these questionable personnel moves blow up in their faces in a pretty bad way.
 
thunderkyss said:
Personally I would have thought they would have contacted his lawyers first & given the opportunity to turn himself in.


I don't have a problem with them showing up & cuffing him like this, I just thought they'd have done it differently.
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I hear he smashed his home phone and fax machine. Thats probably why they had to come get him.
 
From PFT:

On Wednesday, a judge decided to hold Aaron Hernandez without bail pending further proceedings in his murder case.

Those further proceedings could happen as soon as Thursday.

Per a source with knowledge of the situation, Hernandez will appeal the initial decision via a hearing to be held this week.

In 2000, a judge in Georgia initially decided to hold former Ravens linebacker Ray Lewis without bail after he was charged with murder. Less than two weeks later, Lewis was released on $1 million bail.

For Hernandez, the key question is whether he presents a flight risk. Apart from the modern techniques for digitally monitoring his whereabouts, the media has been staked out at his North Attleboro home on a round-the-clock basis. It’s unlikely, however, that the media presence will continue through the trial of the case, which could happen at some point in early 2014.
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CloakNNNdagger said:
In arguing unsuccessfully for bail, Hernandez's attorney said the athlete is unlikely to flee, is a homeowner, and lives with his fiance and an 8-month-old baby. He also said Hernandez had never been accused of a violent crime.

He needs another attorney that can keep his s%*t straight.:cool:
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Any dude with bunches of money is a flight risk..and if you truly give damn about your family you can find away not to be involved with bs like this
 
Notice, no teammate has made any supportive comments in his behalf? Sounds like a teammate that would endear himself so much to others. :kitten:

Aaron Hernandez once told Wes Welker "F--- you Wes, I'll f--- you up!"

According to the Boston Globe, during Aaron Hernandez’s rookie year he was having a hard time watching film and asked Wes Welker for some help.

Welked then replied by saying, “Rookie, you figure it out.”

That’s when Hernandez blew up and said, ”F— you Wes, I’ll f— you up!”

According to Shalise Manza Young of the Globe, Hernandez was serious and wasn’t playing around.

While this may not seem like a big deal to some people, it can be seen as a warning sign for someone with some serious anger problems.
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After I heard all the available details of stupidity involved in committing crime, I couldn't help thinking of the book I read and movie I saw years ago.

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Former New England Patriots player Aaron Hernandez executed his acquaintance Odin L. Lloyd because Hernandez was upset that Lloyd had spoken at a Boston nightclub on June 14 with people Hernandez “had troubles with,” a prosecutor alleged today.

In a dramatic hearing in Attleboro District Court, the prosecutor said that surveillance videos in Boston, in North Attleborough, and even in Hernandez’s own home linked him to the slaying several days later of Lloyd.

Lloyd was shot five times in a North Attleborough industrial park not far from Hernandez’s home. He raised his arm as he lay on the ground, in a desperate attempt to fend off the bullets, Bristol County prosecutor William McCauley said.

The prosecutor said Hernandez, who was accompanied by two men, had the means, motive, and opportunity to kill Lloyd and had been the prime mover in the crime. “He orchestrated his execution,’’ McCauley said. The prosecutor said Hernandez had spoken of no longer trusting Lloyd.

The identity of Hernandez’s two confederates was not disclosed at Hernandez’s arraignment.
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McCauley said Hernandez summoned his two friends, then drove to Fayston Street in Boston’s Dorchester section early on the morning of Monday, June 17, where Lloyd, a 27-year-old semipro football player, left his home, got in the car, and then rode south to North Attleborough.

Along the way, Lloyd alerted relatives in a text message, asking them, “Did you see who I am with?” After they asked who, he replied cryptically, “NFL,” the prosecutor said.

“Just so you know,’’ Lloyd added. It was the last text message he sent before he died, McCauley said.

Surveillance cameras in the North Attleborough industrial park where Lloyd was murdered captured the men arriving in the same silver Nissan that Lloyd had gotten into in Dorchester, the prosecutor said.

Once near a wooded area, Lloyd started climbing out of the car, and was shot once, which knocked him to the ground. As he lay there, he raised his arm and was shot multiple times. Five spent .45-caliber spent shell casings were later recovered, McCauley said.

When Hernandez returned home around 3:30 a.m. Monday, surveillance video at his house showed him walking through his house holding a pistol in his hand, the prosecutor said.
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http://www.boston.com/metrodesk/201...t-yet-known/wK61wqDS7zOjYdOHIpq80O/story.html
 
Prosecutors believe they have a CRUCIAL piece of evidence that proves Aaron Hernandez murdered Odin Lloyd ... and the proof tastes like cotton candy.

As Aaron stood shackled in a Massachusetts courtroom moments ago, prosecutors spelled out their case against the former New England Patriots player.

During the hearing, prosecutors say they can prove Hernandez stopped at a gas station hours before the murder and purchased gas, cigarettes and BLUE COTTON CANDY FLAVORED BUBBLICIOUS BUBBLE GUM.

After Odin was murdered, investigators say they found a shell casing in his rental car that matched the caliber of the bullet used to kill the 27-year-old ... and next to the casing -- A CHEWED PIECE OF BLUE COTTON CANDY FLAVORED BUBBLICIOUS BUBBLE GUM.

Officials believe the gum places Hernandez at the scene of the crime -- and proves he killed Odin.

Hernandez has entered a not guilty plea.
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Wonder if there is DNA in the bubblicous
 
2012Champs said:
Wonder if there is DNA in the bubblicous
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There should be DNA everywhere. From what it sounds like he didn't really care about being caught or didn't think it through too much. He certainly looked like a person who didn't care during his hearing today.
 
Nawzer said:
There should be DNA everywhere. From what it sounds like he didn't really care about being caught or didn't think it through too much. He certainly looked like a person who didn't care during his hearing today.
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Youre right. but I think he was stoic because he probably knows he's done.
 
Did I miss it in this thread and news but where are the other guys that were with him? On they are the lamb? Are they cooperating with the cops?
 
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