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Owen Daniels agrees with Ravens

PapaL

Loose Screw
Didn't see this coming huh?

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/10724464/owen-daniels-agrees-one-year-deal-baltimore-ravens

The Baltimore Ravens reached a one-year agreement with tight end Owen Daniels on Thursday, the team confirmed.

Daniels, who was released by the Houston Texans on March 11, will take a physical in Baltimore on Friday to complete the deal. This reunites Daniels with former Texans coach Gary Kubiak, who is now the Ravens' offensive coordinator.

A two-time Pro Bowler, Daniels is expected to back up Dennis Pitta and play a significant role in the Ravens' two tight end packages. Daniels, 31, represents a major upgrade over Ed Dickson, the Ravens' No. 2 tight end, who was not re-signed.

Durability is the biggest concern with Daniels. He has been limited to 11 games or fewer in three of the past five seasons. Last season, Daniels played only five games because of a fractured fibula.

In his seven-year career, Daniels has caught over 50 passes four times and has scored a total of 29 touchdowns.
 
I guess they are definately Houston B, now that the Denver connection is pretty much done in town.

Had to fill their ex-Tex quota after they cut Vonta.
 
The Baltimore Ravens' signing of tight end Owen Daniels capped off one of the most impressive free agency periods for an offense in rebuilding mode.

It also gained Steve Smith's approval.

"I truly believe you can never have too many horses in the stable," Smith said Thursday, via The Baltimore Sun. "You can never have too many fast cars in your garage."

Ravens #2 Most Improved Offense

Amazing what a passed by predictable offense the league has figured out can do for you.
 
Signed for 1/3rd what he was making here, a bit butthurt...

Baltimore Ravens ‏@Ravens
Owen Daniels on Houston: "I think we’re playing down there this year, so what Steve Smith said about playing in Carolina." #BloodAndGuts

Owen Daniels on Texans: "I let go of where I was the last eight years whenever they let me go. I wasn’t good enough for them anymore."
OD was a great teammate/Texan, but what did he expect with a new coaching staff that can't have contact with the players?
#Ravens have signed RB Justin Forsett to a 1-year deal.

Kubiak bringing in still more ex-Texans.
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Signed for 1/3rd what he was making here, a bit butthurt...

Baltimore Ravens ‏@Ravens
OD was a great teammate/Texan, but what did he expect with a new coaching staff that can't have contact with the players?


Kubiak bringing in still more ex-Texans.
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When headlines read Cody also signs.........I went right to thinking it was Shaun Cody........but there's still time.......:vincepalm:
 
That's just silly.

You want to know how to go 2-14, you get the coach.

How bout the QB. The coach wasn't the guy who was throwing pick 6's. That offense is the same one that started the previous season 11-1 winning back to back division titles before the QB's compounded injuries sapped him of what little physical ability he did have.
 
How bout the QB. The coach wasn't the guy who was throwing pick 6's. That offense is the same one that started the previous season 11-1 winning back to back division titles before the QB's compounded injuries sapped him of what little physical ability he did have.

This was the coaches handpicked 2-14 team from the GM to the waterboy.

He failed and lost his job because of it. I hope Gary/OD etc... do well in Baltimore.
 
This was the coaches handpicked 2-14 team from the GM to the waterboy.

He failed and lost his job because of it. I hope Gary/OD etc... do well in Baltimore.

You say that as if you believe Gary was in charge of player acquisition ... roster building was / is Rick Smith's job. The coaches job is to coach the talent the GM acquires. The talent that Rick gave Gary to work with was obviously sub-par ... Proof of that is the purging of many of those players from the current roster.

If ya ask me , the wrong guy got fired.
 
This kind of thing just shows you how much weight a HC has on signings and roster decisions. I loved OD but this wasn't a bad move by us, given his injury history. Can't wait to see what we do with these 11 picks.
 
You say that as if you believe Gary was in charge of player acquisition ... roster building was / is Rick Smith's job. The coaches job is to coach the talent the GM acquires. The talent that Rick gave Gary to work with was obviously sub-par ... Proof of that is the purging of many of those players from the current roster.

If ya ask me , the wrong guy got fired.

But they're all getting picked up pretty quick. He can't have done too bad.

I remember a time when you were out of the NFL if you were cut by the Texans (well, maybe Detroit or Buffalo would give you a shot), now our back ups are getting picked up.
 
But they're all getting picked up pretty quick. He can't have done too bad.

I remember a time when you were out of the NFL if you were cut by the Texans (well, maybe Detroit or Buffalo would give you a shot), now our back ups are getting picked up.

When Schaub looks as bad in Oakland as he did here .... people will understand the flaw was under center , not the system or the coaches.

He's had another year to recover , I predict he starts out fairly well and falls apart towards the middle and is a complete disaster by the end of the season.
 
I think this on Bob two times he has chosen the wrong GM and the wrong coach.

I think what we see in the NFL is that it's all about getting lucky. You have to have the right coaching staff with the right GM and the right QB and then, things have to bounce your way and you're still screwed if you get hit by injuries to the wrong guys.

The Patriots got lucky when their all-pro QB got injured and he was replaced by Tom Brady. They got lucky with the tuck rule. And then they won the SB. The next year, that team didn't even make the playoffs.

That "great" dynastic team of Belichik and Brady still hasn't been able to win a SB in the past 9 seasons.

The fans of NY have wanted to ditch Tom Coughlin many times. Eli Manning is not nearly the QB his brother is... but... given a little luck at the right time, they've won more SBs together than Peyton Manning has been able to win.

It's not just that McNair hasn't chosen the right guys (and gotten lucky), it's that it's extremely difficult to do and there is no easy/right answer. If there was some obviously right way to do it, more teams would win the SB more often.
 
I think this on Bob two times he has chosen the wrong GM and the wrong coach.

8 years.

In 8 years, we've gone from a failed expansion team, to a back to back play off team, to a team that's got some issues.

I know if you believe the negative nancies on this board, we're 7 years & 33 starters away from competing for the division, but I don't think we're quite that bad. Could another coach/GM do a better job that Gary & Rick... I don't know. Cleveland, Jacksonville, and Carolina don't look much better, if any, than the Texans over that 8 year period.

I know we didn't win the Super Bowl, but the three time Super Bowl Champion New England Patriots didn't in that time span either. It's just not as easy as some would have you believe.

We took a shot & we had a window, things just didn't work out. Hopefully Bob has made the right moves to keep that window from going completely shut. We're missing 2 starters on offense (OD & Wade). Four starters on defense (Manning, Antonio, Mitchell, & Mays/Sharpton) .

This is not insurmountable.

I guarantee you if we somehow manage to get to 9-3, there will be people complaining about how weak our schedule is & how we don't have any quality wins.
 
Haven't won 2 playoff games 2006 - 2013:
Falcons
Bills
Panthers
Bengals
Browns
Cowboys
Lions
Jaguars
Chiefs
Dolphins
Vikings
Raiders
Rams
Buccaneers
Titans
Redskins

I know what you're trying to say, but I don't believe there is one name on that list that, given a choice of teams, we would truly want to identify with.
 
I know what you're trying to say, but I don't believe there is one name on that list that, given a choice of teams, we would truly want to identify with.

I didn't say we shouldn't aim higher. The point is people often have unfounded perceptions and therefore expectations. Half the league has done worse during the Kubiak era. I'll bet you if a poll had been posted asking that question the results would have been a resounding no as in 90%.
 
I didn't say we shouldn't aim higher. The point is people often have unfounded perceptions and therefore expectations. Half the league has done worse during the Kubiak era. I'll bet you if a poll had been posted asking that question the results would have been a resounding no as in 90%.

Won't disagree with that.
 
I know what you're trying to say, but I don't believe there is one name on that list that, given a choice of teams, we would truly want to identify with.

& we shouldn't. We should identify with the teams that have won more than 2 play off games since 2006.
 
Haven't won 2 playoff games 2006 - 2013:
Falcons
Bills On our schedule
Panthers
Bengals On our schedule
Browns On our schedule
Cowboys On our schedule
Lions
Jaguars On our schedule
Chiefs
Dolphins
Vikings
Raiders On our schedule
Rams
Buccaneers
Titans On our schedule
Redskins On our schedule

Ten games on our 2014 schedule will be against teams on that list. I'm not saying that we will, or even that we should win those games, just saying, we're not playing the best of the best in 2014.
 
I think what we see in the NFL is that it's all about getting lucky. You have to have the right coaching staff with the right GM and the right QB and then, things have to bounce your way and you're still screwed if you get hit by injuries to the wrong guys.

The Patriots got lucky when their all-pro QB got injured and he was replaced by Tom Brady. They got lucky with the tuck rule. And then they won the SB. The next year, that team didn't even make the playoffs.

That "great" dynastic team of Belichik and Brady still hasn't been able to win a SB in the past 9 seasons.

The fans of NY have wanted to ditch Tom Coughlin many times. Eli Manning is not nearly the QB his brother is... but... given a little luck at the right time, they've won more SBs together than Peyton Manning has been able to win.

It's not just that McNair hasn't chosen the right guys (and gotten lucky), it's that it's extremely difficult to do and there is no easy/right answer. If there was some obviously right way to do it, more teams would win the SB more often.

I may not know the right way to do it but I know the wrong way to do it, especially if Corrosion is correct and Rick Smith is/was in charge of talent procurement and signed off on the Schaub/Foster/Cushing contracts.

Tell me how anybody can say in 1 breath the McNair's put winning 1st and in the next justify Rick Smith keeping his job.
 
I may not know the right way to do it but I know the wrong way to do it, especially if Corrosion is correct and Rick Smith is/was in charge of talent procurement and signed off on the Schaub/Foster/Cushing contracts.

Tell me how anybody can say in 1 breath the McNair's put winning 1st and in the next justify Rick Smith keeping his job.

How do you know that Rick Smith is keeping his job?
 
I think what we see in the NFL is that it's all about getting lucky. You have to have the right coaching staff with the right GM and the right QB and then, things have to bounce your way and you're still screwed if you get hit by injuries to the wrong guys.

The Patriots got lucky when their all-pro QB got injured and he was replaced by Tom Brady. They got lucky with the tuck rule. And then they won the SB. The next year, that team didn't even make the playoffs.

That "great" dynastic team of Belichik and Brady still hasn't been able to win a SB in the past 9 seasons.

The fans of NY have wanted to ditch Tom Coughlin many times. Eli Manning is not nearly the QB his brother is... but... given a little luck at the right time, they've won more SBs together than Peyton Manning has been able to win.

It's not just that McNair hasn't chosen the right guys (and gotten lucky), it's that it's extremely difficult to do and there is no easy/right answer. If there was some obviously right way to do it, more teams would win the SB more often.

:goodpost:

MSR, again.
 
Tell me how anybody can say in 1 breath the McNair's put winning 1st and in the next justify Rick Smith keeping his job.

He disagrees with your assessment of Rick Smith.

To state what should be obvious, sometimes folks with the same goal differ on how best to get there.
 
He disagrees with your assessment of Rick Smith.

To state what should be obvious, sometimes folks with the same goal differ on how best to get there.

2-14 + 11 yrs of mediocrity at best.

Do you trust him/them to get it right?
 
I may not know the right way to do it but I know the wrong way to do it, especially if Corrosion is correct and Rick Smith is/was in charge of talent procurement and signed off on the Schaub/Foster/Cushing contracts.

Tell me how anybody can say in 1 breath the McNair's put winning 1st and in the next justify Rick Smith keeping his job.

I have & had no problem with those contracts; Schaub/Foster/Cushing... That was a big part of our Super Bowl winning team. Put Aj in there too. We're just lucky he's proven to be as durable as he has. OD as well. We could have & should have won the Super Bowl with those guys (& several others), it just didn't work out. Can't blame Rick Smith if those guys get hurt. Schaub looked completely healthy to me, I don't think his issues are LisFranc related. Foster's going to be fine & a top rusher in this league again. Cushing latest injury has absolutely nothing to do with his previous injury. It's not like a complication from his previous knee injury... he took a helmet to the knee. If the first never occurred, he'd still be out.

Time to reload, it happens.
 
2-14 + 11 yrs of mediocrity at best.

Do you trust him/them to get it right?

We will never agree that winning the division and playoff wins are mediocrity and I don't have a choice in whether to trust them. Neither do you.

Do you really believe BoB/Cal are going to fire Rick Smith before next season?

Really? Or are you being argumentative?

While this might make sense to question for other teams I really can't see why you are incredulous about the Texans since that is precisely what happened for the last GM change.
 
We will never agree that winning the division and playoff wins are mediocrity and I don't have a choice in whether to trust them. Neither do you.



While this might make sense to question for other teams I really can't see why you are incredulous about the Texans since that is precisely what happened for the last GM change.

You're correct neither of us do. However calling out failure should be trumpeted. (Circa 2010) Now the Texans org is still sitting in a worse situation than the were in 2010. They're in 2006 territory. I know that we will never agree. But the Texans have been badly mismanaged, see 2-14.

So you're telling me that Rick Smith wont be the GM next season. Would you care to make a bet on that?
 
Would you like to make a bet on the McNair's firing Rick Smith before next season? Easy $$$$

He said how do we know.

We don't know. It's very possible that McNair will fire Smith after the draft, the same way he did Casserly.
 
I'm sorry, where did you see a prediction? What I said is its a possibility and not the absurdity you portrayed it as.

Just what I thought,

You think Rick Smith is going to be the GM next yr and just want to be argumentative.
 
What do you think about last year's 2-14 Chiefs, or this year's 3-13 Atlanta Falcons?

The Chiefs fully changed regimes.

The Falcons kept their regime and are going to use FA/Draft to restock. They have already had a great FA haul and if they do well in the draft then the Falcons should be well positioned for yrs to come. The Falcons took their medicine for the Julio Jones trade last yr and will be better off for it in the long run. I predict IF the Falcons stay healthy they will challenge the 49ers/Seahawks/Saints for the NFC crown.

How did the Texans do in FA compared to the Falcons this yr.
 
Would you like to make a bet on the McNair's firing Rick Smith before next season? Easy $$$$

I'm not a betting man. I don't claim to know the future. However, McNair let Casserly finish the draft before letting him go and he's stated that he doesn't want to fire coaches mid-season. He might consider a GM's season to end with the Draft. So there's a possibility that he'll fire Rick Smith after the draft.

However. I don't believe that McNair doesn't want to win. I think he does. I think he believes that it's better to be patient and to give people a chance to succeed than to swap guys out willy-nilly. And I agree with him.

I do know that you don't like McNair. You think he's cheap and just trying to maximize his profits. You think he doesn't want to spend the money necessary to make this team a winner. You think he's doing everything all wrong.

So there's not much more to discuss since I don't believe a single thing that you do.
 
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