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OTA thread

Glad to hear Trindon caught a long one. How was his pass catching in general TC? More completions than drops, I hope. I'd really like to see that 'lil burner make it!

Trindon Holliday may be the surprise of OTAs with only 4 days in.

Looks like one of the guys out there instead "they think they can make this guy into a wide receiver?" ??!!!

Looks like a wide receiver in drills. Making some nice catches during team play. Fun to watch coming out of the slot. Today was the first bomb I saw connect though he wasn't getting that many of those sorts of targets before.

Not quite the same as when the play gets more physical, but so much better than how he was.
 
Trindon Holliday may be the surprise of OTAs with only 4 days in.

Looks like one of the guys out there instead "they think they can make this guy into a wide receiver?" ??!!!

Looks like a wide receiver in drills. Making some nice catches during team play. Fun to watch coming out of the slot. Today was the first bomb I saw connect though he wasn't getting that many of those sorts of targets before.

Not quite the same as when the play gets more physical, but so much better than how he was.

Good news! Thanks for the response.
 
I'm going with Jean and D. Jones and Maehl stays alive on the practice squad for one more year. Not to be type-casting but he looks like a K.W. replacement unit.

Well.... so much for THAT prediction...
:mcnugget:
As much as it pains me to say this, GP might have been right about Jones.





damn, did I just give GP credit out loud?
:D
 
No. It was a referance to the people saying the weather here is different than Ohio. I go on a vacation I look for the weather on where I am going. These kids are going to their new employer for an extended period of time and they dont kow what the weather will be like?

I'm sure they've heard hahaha...I've been a part of drum corps going through all 3 states. I can tell you this much, nobody was worried about hydration in Michigan.
 
We know because you let us all hear about it....:clown:.....:kitten:......:)

Hey now, hey now...

I could have gone into orbit with a huge pat-myself-on-the-back episode. I kept it real, though.

Secretly, I was dancing around in front of my laptop like this:

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Hey now, hey now...

I could have gone into orbit with a huge pat-myself-on-the-back episode. I kept it real, though.

Secretly, I was dancing around in front of my laptop like this:

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I knew I felt a disturbance in the Force...
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Lots of interesting info out there from the mother site:

Quotes: Wednesday OTA
Posted 5 hours ago


Read what Texans head coach Gary Kubiak and some players said after Wednesday's practice at the Methodist Training Center.
The Texans practiced Wednesday morning at the Methodist Training Center and after, head coach Gary Kubiak, defensive coordinator Wade Phillips and some players answered questions from the media. The following is a transcript of their respective interviews.


Head Coach Gary Kubiak
(on how he felt practice went today) “It was good. I liked the way we were battling in practice. We were kind of swapping off practice, defense wins a period and offense wins a period. That’s a good sign for your football team. It’s very competitive. It’s good and hot for us, it’s great conditioning for us. We’ve got some of those second- and third-year players really starting to do some good things out here so it’s exciting.”



(on what feels different about this team) “I wouldn’t really know how to answer that right now. We’ve got a long way to go. Every team kind of takes on its own personality. This one has a lot of fun in practice but it’s very responsible to each other, they all work. That’s what you’re looking for. Let’s hold judgment on that one. Let’s just keep going.”



(on who some of the second and third year guys are that are stepping up) “There’s some guys really jumping at me, when I look at Trindon Holliday starting to look like a wide receiver out here, he’s making plays. I think Garrett Graham is doing some good things. The defensive side of the ball, I look at (Bryan) Braman and how far he’s come in such a short period of time and also Torri Williams. What we’re going to eventually be will probably have a lot to do with how many of those types of guys step up and all of a sudden become real good pros, so we’ll see.”



(on WR Keshawn Martin) “I think he’s doing well. He’s got a lot of explosion. He needs to learn some things about the pro athlete that he’s going against because sometimes when he separates, he thinks it’s over. You’ve got to keep playing, so that’s just something to get used to but I like his work habits. He’s kept up in the book. He has an excellent chance.”



(on WR Keshawn Martin in the return game) “Well, he’s automatic catching the ball. That’s the first thing you look at. He’s very confident in doing that. You never find that out until it’s time to go play, but we’ll keep working.”



(on how the team is doing heath-wise) “We’re good. Antonio (Smith)’s back is bothering him a little bit. I pulled him out early. I don’t’ even know if he went back in, I’ll have to watch the film. For the most part, we’re holding up pretty good.”



(on if anybody was absent today) “Nobody quit. No, that’s tough. I talked to him (Dwight Jones) a couple times and he had a good college career and he’s a talented young man. It’s a grind. It’s tough out here. Hopefully, he’ll get home and things will feel a little better about it and he’ll come back and give it another try someday. He’s a very good athlete.”



(on his expectations for QB John Beck) “To me, they are all competing with T.J. (Yates). I see Matt (Schaub) as our starter and everyone is competing with T.J. right now. I think John (Beck) has the mental capacity. He understands everything we’re doing. I think we can really help John with some of the ways he plays the game. We’re trying to change some of the things he does. Time will tell. Case (Keenum) continues to come on every day. There will be plenty of reps to go around with Matt and us being smart with Matt. We’ll see how it comes out.”



(on WR DeVier Posey) “He continues to do good things. I want his conditioning level, and I’m not saying it’s bad but all these young guys need to get to where you can go all day in this Texas heat. They think they’re okay until they get down here. When that gets better, his talents will continue to take over. He made some plays and he’s a hard worker. He’s one of the last guys leaving here every day so that’s important.”



(on the status of NT Hebron Fangupo) “He’s doing good. I expect him back out here on Monday. He’s running.”



(on NT Shaun Cody not practicing today) “I’m not working him on back-to-back days. I’m just going to practice him every other day.”



(on if any of the young players are in great shape that blow him away) “I think they’re all in pretty good shape. I’m just saying when you get here and you work in this type of heat and humidity, it rained out a little bit before we came out today so it was really hot, you can tell the veteran guys that can continue to find juice throughout practice. Those young guys, after an hour or so, they can’t find it. That’s what they’re here for and they’ve got a month and a half to get themselves in better condition so they can keep competing.”



(on how far behind is ILB Darryl Sharpton from not participating) “He’s behind. How far is he behind? When he comes back, we’ll find out. I know Sharp (Darryl Sharpton) is a bright guy. He keeps up with what we’re doing, but there are no reps like getting them on the field so he’s definitely going to be behind. The key for him is to be healthy enough to compete, so that’s what we’re heading towards.”



(on if ILB Darryl Sharpton will be 100 percent in camp or if they’ll have to take it easy on him) “Nowadays, it’s so different. What’s taking it easy? A guy is really only practicing once a day anyway. He would never practice if we end up on turf. Stuff like that, yeah, we’ll do that with him. For the most part, nowadays two a days are not even a question.”



(on if this is now ILB Brian Cushing’s defense with DeMeco Ryans gone) “I think it’s all of them. I think they all look to Cush as a leader, but I think the reason we were so good last year is because it was about a family and everyone doing their job. I think that’s what we stand for as a team. Is Brian being asked to be more of a leader since DeMeco is not here? I think that’s obvious, yeah.”



(on if the wide receiver position is a concern) “It’s a concern. But I like the ability we have on the team right now with the group and we’ve come a long way just in five days. Guys that have been on the big stage, this group hasn’t but it’s got the ability to go out there and do it. Lestar (Jean) is acting like a dang good player out here every day, so we just got to stay committed to them. But we’ll continue to look, we’ll continue to watch some of these guys that are out there and see what happens through the first of June. But we got to stay focused on this group because this might be what we go to camp and then the season with. We’ll work and gotta get it done. That’s our job.”



Defensive Coordinator Wade Phillips
(on what rookie OLB Whitney Mercilus has done well and what he needs to improve on to this point) “I think, like all rookies, we’ve hit him with a lot of stuff and it slows him down a little bit on the field but he’s a real smart guy and a hard worker. That’s what I really like about him.”



(on ILB Bradie James) “He’s the signal caller. He calls all the signals and all the audibles. He already knows them, so that’s the good thing. We put in a few different things, but he’s caught onto those real quickly. He’s real familiar with what we’re doing and how we want it done and what changes we need to make in the heat of the battle. That’s what I like about him.”



(on the perception that ILB Bradie James didn’t have much football left in him) “I think he moves around good. That’s what I look for. I don’t see much difference in him than a year and a half ago.”



(on how far behind ILB Darryl Sharpton is because of his injury rehabilitation) “It obviously hurts him. Being out there watching and being in the meetings is one thing but being out on the field and doing it…and certain guys are different. Some guys can just watch and go out there and play and other guys can’t. He played real good for us early last year and we’re hoping he comes back.”



(on where ILB Bradie James is right now compared to when he last coached him) “Pretty much the same. The guy is a field general, is the quarterback out on the field, knows what we’re calling. Sometimes we signal things, which I can go through the whole signals with some guys and I just do one thing and he knows what the call is. If we play somebody that has a hurry-up offense, he has no problem. It’s boom-boom-boom, he gets it done. That’s the real help he gives you.”



(on how much pressure there is on rookie to perform, given the way OLB Brooks Reed and DE J.J. Watt performed in their rookie seasons) “We got a solid group right now. What we wanted to do was try pick up where we left off last year. If we can play as good as we were going into the playoffs and then in the playoffs especially; I thought we played outstanding defensively the last two games. If we can get to that point early and then go from there, I think we’ll be where we want to be.”



(on if this is ILB Brian Cushing’s defense) “He’s the example. He’s the guy that plays hard, plays tremendously hard, has great athletic ability, but uses it. That’s the example we use on him.”



(on learning about players during OTAs) “Yeah, that’s more what we had to do last season to see what everyone could do. Once we realized how good (Brian) Cushing was rushing the passer from inside, we did it quite bit last year, if you noticed and we got better and better at it. Same thing with Brooks Reed and what he could do. J.J. (Watt) can stunt and he’s really quick at it, so we utilize that. Yeah, the more you learn about them, the better you can call and set up things for them, specific players that do specific things. Same thing with Connor (Barwin). Connor’s a really good rush guy. We could use him as a drop guy but we switched in the middle of the season and said, ‘Hey, you’re our rush guy,’ and he had 10 or 11 sacks right after that.”



(on how good it is to ILB Bradie James in his defensive system, being that he already knows it) “It’s good guys know what to do. The first thing you have to do is not make many mistakes and you need a signal caller that helps everybody and Bradie (James) does that. He can tell everybody, ‘Hey, this is where we’re playing. I cover this guy, you cover that guy. Safety’s got him.’ He knows the whole defense. A lot of players know their own position but Bradie knows the whole defense, so that helps.”



ILB Brian Cushing
(on how he is feeling after five practices) “I’m feeling good. I think the whole team is feeling good and we’re comfortable with where we are right now. It’s been a good couple of days so far of practice, and we are just looking to continue to grow and get better.”



(on whether he is comfortable taking on more of a leadership role with the defense) “I feel that I’ve really had to take that role for a while now, even when (former Texans ILB) DeMeco (Ryans) and all those guys were here. That’s just the kind of player I am. I want it upon myself, and now more than ever, I guess.”



(on earning the right to be a leader on the defense) “Well, yeah. It’s something that I want. I know a lot of guys would rather not have it or whatnot, but I feel that it’s part of my responsibility being on this team.”



(on how the rookies on defense have adjusted so far) “I think they’re doing well, because it’s so competitive out here. A lot of these guys are established; they’ve been in the playbook for two or three years now. It’s tough, there’s no doubt about it, when you’re a rookie, and the only thing you can do is just hustle hard every day because you’re not going to be 100 percent with the plays or whatnot.”



(on rookie OLB Whitney Mercilus’ performance so far) “I think he’s done a good job, but it’s tough. OTAs, everyone looks good in some shorts, so we’ll wait til August when we get the pads on and start playing real football.”



(on whether the performances of DE J.J. Watt and OLB Brooks Reed last year create more pressure on this year’s rookie defenders) “I don’t think so, because if you look at the specifics of what (OLB) Whitney’s (Mercilus) coming into, there’s a good chance he probably won’t even start. I think he’s coming into a defense that’s, I wouldn’t say established, but we definitely found our identity. We look to continue to grow, and I think he just needs to contribute. He doesn’t need any added pressure of thinking he needs to be a certain player or have 10 sacks or anything like that. He just needs to play football like he can.”



(on ILB Bradie James) “Oh, he’s great. He’s your typical example of an older guy with leadership. He’s been out of (Defensive Coordinator) Wade’s (Phillips) system now for two years, but he just comes right in and he doesn’t miss a beat.”



(on whether he feels like this is his team) “Well, I really wouldn’t specifically put it on one person, but if it’s said to be that, that’s fine with me. That’s something that I’ll accept and continue to go forward with, but we’re a collective unit. It’s all of the guys, whatever 53 we put out there, chipping in and contributing.”



(on what Defensive Coordinator Wade Phillips has meant to him and to the team) “Oh, a ton. How well he coaches this team and how simple he makes it. Football is just a whole lot more fun playing for him. You’re free, you play loose, and you just go out there and have a good time.”



(on whether DE J.J. Watt’s comment that his only goal is the Super Bowl is representative of the whole team’s attitude) “I think so, yeah. That’s the ultimate goal for any football player, and I think everyone on all 32 teams would say the same thing, but at the same time, we’ve got to go 1-0 first. That’s all that matters – winning that first game.”



WR Keshawn Martin
(on whether he feels that his ability to return punts can help him make the team) “It just gives them another reason to pick me, so yeah, that’s something that I feel like I can bring to the table also, doing returns and playing receiver.”



(on what makes him a good punt returner) “Just instincts; just finding a hole and then bursting up the field.”



(on whether he can return kickoffs as well) “I returned a couple of kicks at Michigan State, so I feel like I can definitely return kicks, too.”



(on whether there has been an adjustment to working with NFL quarterbacks) “It’s a little adjustment, but I had a good quarterback at Michigan State, so it’s not that much different.”
 
Intriguing group of young players stepping up in OTAs
Posted by Nick Scurfield on May 30, 2012 – 4:47 pm
The Texans had their fifth practice of organized team activities (OTAs) and second practice of the week on Wednesday at the Methodist Training Center.

Head coach Gary Kubiak said he liked the competition at practice – the defense would win a period, then the offense would win a period, back and forth throughout. Kubiak also said he’s excited to see some of the Texans’ second- and third-year players “really starting to do some good things” on the field.

“There’s some guys really jumping at me,” he said. “When I look at (wide receiver) Trindon Holliday starting to look like a wide receiver out here, he’s making plays. I think (tight end) Garrett Graham is doing some good things. The defensive side of the ball, I look at (outside linebacker Bryan) Braman and how far he’s come in such a short period of time, and also Torri Williams. What we’re going to eventually be (as a team) will probably have a lot to do with how many of those types of guys step up and all of a sudden become real good pros, so we’ll see.”

It’s an interesting group of players that Kubiak listed. Let’s take a closer look at them:

Holliday is the team’s smallest player at 5-5, 170. He’s also probably the team’s fastest player, with official electronic times of 4.34 seconds in the 40-yard dash and 10.0 in the 100 meters. He was drafted in the sixth round in 2010 primarily for his return prowess, since he barely played receiver at LSU. After spending his rookie year on injured reserve, he spent most of last season on the Texans’ practice squad. Kubiak has said time and again that Holliday will need to show he can help the team as more than just a returner, and it sounds like he’s on his way doing just that.

Graham is entering his third season out of Wisconsin. A fourth-round pick in 2010, he has drawn favorable comparisons to fellow former Badger (and Texans fourth-round pick) Owen Daniels but has rarely seen the field in his first two years, in part because of injuries. At the NFL Scouting Combine in February, Kubiak said the biggest thing for Graham is to stay healthy and called this a “huge offseason” for him. James Casey is currently the Texans’ number two tight end and starting fullback, but Graham has a clear chance at more playing time this year with Joel Dreessen now on the Denver Broncos.
Braman (6-5, 246) made the team last year as an undrafted rookie out of West Texas A&M. He’s a gifted athlete who had some off-field issues in college; the Texans took a chance on him based on the recommendation of defensive assistant Bobby King, who coached him at West Texas. Braman turned heads in the preseason last year with his pass-rushing ability and unique off-field story, and he was one of the Texans’ best special teams players in 2011. This play pretty much sums him up.

Williams (6-2, 210) has been playing cornerback in OTAs. He was listed at free safety for the last two seasons. He played both positions in college at Purdue – corner in his final two seasons in 2008-09 and safety from 2004-07 (he had six years of eligibility after season-ending injuries in 2005 and 2006). Undrafted in 2010, Williams was activated from the practice squad for one game as a rookie before suffering a season-ending hamstring injury. In 2011, he was released in the Texans’ final roster cuts in the preseason but re-signed to the practice squad a month later. The Texans did not sign a veteran corner after losing Jason Allen in free agency to the Cincinnati Bengals, so there could be room for Williams to push for a roster spot.
 
Holliday grabbed a great bomb over the top yesterday. Had the only bomb of today. Lestar Jean powered over a defender to catch a bomb yesterday.

Holliday had two catches where he climbed up to get them over the defenders. Big ups. Holliday really is the surprise of OTAs so far. But then again, expectations were very low.

Very very hot today. First day with no breeze. It started out with clouds and the full on sun.

I think some of the work with Beck is about taking a little off his balls for certain throws. He did well with that today.

A lot of the coaching of Case Keenum is him reading the defense and putting the ball where it is supposed to go.

Best moments of camp today: Connor Barwin chasing Ben Tate way down field with some serious speed. And Duane Brown continuing the block way into the second level. Lots of efforting.

There's a group that works on the side field who are recovering from injury. Schaub working a lot on footwork. Looks very natural. Fangupo, Alexander, Sharpton working on that field too. Cody is alternating days so he was doing his own work on the side-they are trying to save some of the older guys. AJ was not working on the side field but instead hanging with the wide receivers--towel on head.
 
TC, do you know if Desmond Marrow is practicing as a safety or a corner? How does he look out there? I know it's a longshot for Marrow to make the team, but I'm rooting for him.

Thanks
 
There's a group that works on the side field who are recovering from injury. Schaub working a lot on footwork. Looks very natural. Fangupo, Alexander, Sharpton working on that field too. Cody is alternating days so he was doing his own work on the side-they are trying to save some of the older guys. AJ was not working on the side field but instead hanging with the wide receivers--towel on head.

It's a Jedi Master thing
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I think some of the work with Beck is about taking a little off his balls for certain throws. He did well with that today.

A lot of the coaching of Case Keenum is him reading the defense and putting the ball where it is supposed to go.

Seriously, thanks for the spy work; don't know what we'd do without you on the scene.

I'm interested in Yates. Maybe it's just me, but I didn't get the feel, last year, that he was correctly going through his progressions. How does he look this year; or can you really tell anything during 7-on-7 about how well he's making his reads??

I know this would be speculation at this point (but what else we got to talk about), do you think Beck actually has a shot to leapfrog Yates or is he principally a camp arm?

Thanks again.
 
Seriously, thanks for the spy work; don't know what we'd do without you on the scene.

I'm interested in Yates. Maybe it's just me, but I didn't get the feel, last year, that he was correctly going through his progressions. How does he look this year; or can you really tell anything during 7-on-7 about how well he's making his reads??

I know this would be speculation at this point (but what else we got to talk about), do you think Beck actually has a shot to leapfrog Yates or is he principally a camp arm?

Thanks again.

Can't say much on that. Know he isn't getting the business from Kubiak like sometimes the other two do. Looks fine. But hard to tell much without real pass rush or knowing where the ball is supposed to go.

Will say he did a beautiful bomb to Kevin Walter during 7 on 7s today.

Here's my most recent update on things.

Really, the idea behind it is no news is good news. You don't want your OTAs making real news. Just lots of teaching being done.
 
Holliday is doing very well so far, but then I see Kubiak's comments about Keshawn Martin and I wonder if Holliday won't be able to match Martin in the role of WR/Returner.

Kubiak seems very excited about Keshawn Martin.
 
Quotes: Wednesday OTA

Head Coach Gary Kubiak
(on WR Keshawn Martin in the return game) “Well, he’s automatic catching the ball. That’s the first thing you look at. He’s very confident in doing that. You never find that out until it’s time to go play, but we’ll keep working.”

Is Kubiak taking a shot at Jacoby here?
 
i'm loving that it sounds like holliday might get a legit shot at becoming a receiver. obviously being a 6'3" 230lb sprinter with hops is nice, but it isnt the only way to be productive. danny amendola comes to mind, and he doesnt have a fraction of holliday's top end. if holliday can work his butt off and become a strong route runner, he'd be an amazing weapon to have on the field - it doesnt take size to sit in a zone or create underneath separation.

then again i whiffed on hoping the last two "weapons" would figure it out - jacoby and slaton.
 
Is anybody else worried about Trindon Holliday? He might be able to catch and run routes, but I'm worried about his ability to hold on to the ball after a reception.
 
Is anybody else worried about Trindon Holliday? He might be able to catch and run routes, but I'm worried about his ability to hold on to the ball after a reception.

When they use him in the slot your going to see him on a lot of crossing routes. Im more worried about his chances of survival when a LB has a clean shot at him.
 
Is anybody else worried about Trindon Holliday? He might be able to catch and run routes, but I'm worried about his ability to hold on to the ball after a reception.

to an extent. obviously he wont be able to fend off 225lb safeties going for blow up hits like walter or andre can, but at the same time his size and speed help to keep clean hits from happening. in his words "i'm so quick and able to move faster than other guys, those guys arent able to get a good hit on me". he wouldnt have made it this far if he didnt have the body control to take football hits and hold onto the ball.
 
to an extent. obviously he wont be able to fend off 225lb safeties going for blow up hits like walter or andre can, but at the same time his size and speed help to keep clean hits from happening. in his words "i'm so quick and able to move faster than other guys, those guys arent able to get a good hit on me". he wouldnt have made it this far if he didnt have the body control to take football hits and hold onto the ball.

If linebackers didnt have the body control to catch shifty fast guys they wouldnt have made it this far.

Assuming holliday gets any real playing time, he'll stop getting playing time because of injury.
 
If linebackers didnt have the body control to catch shifty fast guys they wouldnt have made it this far.

Signed,

Troy Palamalu (not a linebacker, a should be even faster safety) as he is still digging grass out of his facemask from trying to tackle Foster.

Having said that I doubt Holliday plays any big role on the team.
 
If linebackers didnt have the body control to catch shifty fast guys they wouldnt have made it this far.

Signed,
The other 44 billion quick midgets who thought they had a chance in the nfl.
 
Signed,
The other 44 billion quick midgets who thought they had a chance in the nfl.

Just a homer messing with you comment.

Gotta admit those were nice moves by Foster though. Actually not really a homer comment. Those were good moves.
 
i'm loving that it sounds like holliday might get a legit shot at becoming a receiver. obviously being a 6'3" 230lb sprinter with hops is nice, but it isnt the only way to be productive. danny amendola comes to mind, and he doesnt have a fraction of holliday's top end. if holliday can work his butt off and become a strong route runner, he'd be an amazing weapon to have on the field - it doesnt take size to sit in a zone or create underneath separation.

then again i whiffed on hoping the last two "weapons" would figure it out - jacoby and slaton.

I wish he was more of an "all heart" guy like Danny Woodhead. Danny is small, 180ish, but he's tough as nails. I'll take all heart over "possibly talented" every day of the week.
 
Quotes: Thursday OTA (HT.com)
Posted 5 hours ago


The Texans had their sixth practice of organized team activities (OTAs) on Thursday morning at the Methodist Training Center.
The Texans had their sixth practice of organized team activities (OTAs) on Thursday morning at the Methodist Training Center. The following is a transcript of head coach Gary Kubiak and others' interviews from the field after practice.

Head Coach Gary Kubiak
CB Johnathan Joseph
WR Kevin Walter
DE J.J. Watt

Head Coach Gary Kubiak
(on how today’s OTA session went) “Really good defensively today. I thought we ended the week (with) probably one of our best defensive practices. So that means it probably wasn’t a very good offensively. But that’s good. We’ve got good competition going on and we’ve been good and healthy throughout this course of the first six days. We’ve got a lot of things to cover next week but I’ve been pleased.”

(on the competition on both sides of the ball compared to years past) “It’s the best I’ve seen. We had a lot of new faces, I would say, last year getting started in camp. So they’re familiar with each other. They get on each other pretty good out here and they compete pretty good. That’s a sign of a good football team, when you’re going back and forth at each other all the time. Like I said, it’s been pretty good from that standpoint.”

(on how the right side of the offensive line looks) “We’re in shorts, so it looks good. You never know until you start banging. I think the biggest thing is (Antoine) Caldwell has held up. He’s had a good six days. The biggest think with his career is just staying healthy. (Rashad) Butler and (Derek) Newton got a good battle going on and that will work itself out. The young guard (Brandon Brooks) is going to be very competitive for a starting job. So it’s kind of what we thought it was and just keep going.”

(on how impressed he’s been with rookies OLB Whitney Mercilus and DE Jared Crick) “Well, (Whitney) Mercilus, athletically, is probably even more than what we thought he was. He’s excellent. He’s learning to do things on special teams and stuff. (Jared) Crick is grinder as a player. He’s an effort player, a physical player. That’s exactly what is usually very successful with (assistant head coach/defensive line) Bill (Kollar) as a coach. But you’re waiting to get the pads on with big guys, so we’ll see.”

(on what he wants to see in the final week of OTAs) “We’ve got a lot of teaching to do. We’ve got a lot of things we want to cover; two-minute, red zone, a lot of stuff. Just want to get that covered and hopefully I’m feeling good about the end of the week next week with everything that the veterans have done and then we’ll see where we’re at going into mini-camp.”

(on if RT Derek Newton is putting pressure on RT Rashad Butler for a starting spot) “No doubt. He’s playing really well. We’re in shorts, so it’s hard to tell with big guys. Athletically and then now mentally, (Derek) Newton is catching up enough to battle for a starting spot. So that’ll be a really good battle.”

(on what he likes about RT Derek Newton) “He can run. He’s very strong. I think I’ve told you over and over again the biggest thing is he came from a program where he didn’t have a great football background knowledge-wise. That’s not his fault. He’s catching up, so he’s learning NFL-wise, film-wise all the fronts he’s got to see. When that gets automatic for him there’s no doubt in my mind he’s got a chance to be a starter.”

CB Johnathan Joseph
(on how much being in Defensive Coordinator Wade Phillips’ system for a second year will help the defensive backs) “The NFL is all about timing. If you have time to grow and time to slow the game down, you’ll be that much better, and for those young guys, you can kind of see that taking place right now with those guys just running out and making plays. You saw (CB) Sherrick McManis almost have two interceptions today. I talk to him every day and he says the game is slowing down a lot for him. So to see the young guys come out and say that and experience that is a great deal for those guys.”

WR Kevin Walter
(on rookie WRs DeVier Posey and Keshawn Martin) “DeVier, he’s a great guy. He’s got size, he can run, get in and out of his breaks. The same with Keshawn. Keshawn’s from Michigan State; he can run fast, he can make plays. Those two guys are going to help us out big-time.”

(on how much it helps the rookie receivers to get extra reps with WR Andre Johnson not practicing) “No doubt about it. They’re getting reps; everyone’s getting reps, and the more reps you’re out there, the more you’re going to get better. Those guys are doing a great job. Each day, they’re getting better. It’s going to be a lot of fun this year.”

(on whether he has taken the rookie receivers under his wing during OTAs) “Oh, absolutely. They come to me every day with questions, ‘What should I do here?’ and this and that. As long as we’re on the same page (because) we’re all in this together. That’s what I tell them: ‘We’re all in this together. If you have any questions, don’t leave the huddle without knowing what to do,’ and they’re doing a good job.”

(on whether the young receivers are pushing him) “Oh, no doubt about it. Absolutely. These guys are giving effort day-in and day-out. They’re very impressive. I’m learning from them as well as they’re learning from me, so like I said, we’re all in this together and it’s going to be a fun year.”

(on what skills he’s noticed in the rookie receivers) “I see everything. That’s why they got drafted: they can do everything. They’re learning these concepts pretty quick; they get in and out of their breaks; they’re fast; they can catch the ball. They’re a big asset to this team. I know why we drafted them. It’s big-time.”

(on how willing the rookie wide receivers have been to ask him for advice) “DeVier (Posey), he talks more than Keshawn (Martin). Keshawn’s more of a quiet guy kind of like (WR) Andre (Johnson), but DeVier, he’ll come to you – I sit next to him in meetings – and ask questions, and that’s what you want. It helps him out, it helps me out, and we’re all in this together.”

(on the competition that is taking place among the wide receivers) “This training camp, we’re going to compete. We’re all going to compete. We’re all competing to get better; we’re all competing for jobs, and that’s the way it should be.”

(on what he has learned from the rookie wide receivers) “It’s amazing – DeVier (Posey) I think was in seventh grade my rookie year. It’s unbelievable, and for him to come out here and run routes and latch on right away, it’s impressive watching him day-in and day-out work.”

(on whether he’s learned any techniques from the rookie wide receivers) “Every receiver is different. Not one receiver is the same (as another) and we’ve been around each other the past few weeks and you try to learn things from him and he learns things from me. You try and apply them to each other’s game. I think that (WR) DeVier (Posey) is pretty special and I think (WR) Keshawn (Martin) is also; and I know once Dre (WR Andre Johnson) gets out here, we’re all looking to Dre to try to get better, too.”

(on WR Lestar Jean) “Lestar, he’s making plays out there. He’s explosive, he’s smart, he knows how to get open and he’s done a good job. Last year, he got injured and it was too bad because I think he would have done a great job last year helping us out. He’s going to make plays this year. He’s going to help this ballclub.”

(on his personal goals for the upcoming season) “I always have goals. I want to get better each year. In this League, if you’re not getting better, you’re not going to be sticking around. I feel good; I feel fast; I feel just how I want to be. There’s still a lot of time between now and training camp to get better and polish some things up, but I feel great.”

(on rookie WR Jerrell Jackson) “He’s an impressive kid. He can run, he can catch. He seems like the all-around, overall good package as a receiver.”

DE J.J. Watt
(on the rookies getting on the same page with the rest of the team) “They’re definitely coming along. You can tell as the week goes on that they’re really starting to pick up the defense. You can tell because they’re playing faster. The first couple days, they were just trying to make sure that they’re doing the right thing. Now they’re trying to do the right thing and play good football. It’s good to see.”

(on how different these OTAs are for him after having one year under his belt) “It’s really comfortable for me because I have the playbook down. Now it’s just concentrating on my game and making sure that I can get my pass rush moves down and making sure I get my run reads down. It’s nice to be able to focus on the little things that are really going to help improve my game.”

(on the rookies progress so far in camp) “It’s good. They’re bringing some serious intensity and especially as we move forward, they’re starting to get a little more comfortable in their own skin. We’re really starting to get to see what they’re about. They’re definitely pushing each other and they’re pushing us. It’s fun. It’s fun to have a little competition.”

(on the Texans now having the bulls-eye on their back) “The bar has definitely been raised quite a bit. I was actually just talked to Bum Phillips before practice. He told me how every team is going to be gunning for us now that we have the target on our back. I like that, personally. It’s good to have that pressure from other teams. One thing that he said, he said everybody is going to be bringing their A-game. I said, ‘Well we’re going to bring our A-game too.’ It’s not going to be a cakewalk for anyone who comes into Reliant.”

(on if he likes that the Texans are now in the national conversation) “Yeah, of course. You want to be in that conversation. It’s a good thing. It’s a testament to the hard work that has gone on here over the last 10 years. It’s a testament to the players and coaches and we hope that more and more attention comes our way because that means we’re winning games. That’s the plan.”

(on what advice he has for the young guys for the heat) “There’s not much you can do to prepare for it. Drink plenty of Gatorade and water and get your rest now, because there’s nothing you can do to prepare for this Texas heat. It’s unlike anything I’ve ever seen.”
 
If linebackers didnt have the body control to catch shifty fast guys they wouldnt have made it this far.

Assuming holliday gets any real playing time, he'll stop getting playing time because of injury.

mccluster from the same draft (5'7" 170lbs) played all 16 games last year as a runningback and receiver. dunta robinson at 5'10" 183lbs is considered one of the hardest hitting db's in the league. wes welker, julian edelman, danny woodhead, danny amendola, desean jackson, darren sproles and 44 million other quick midgets are making their way in the NFL. i'm not sure why you're assuming that he's guaranteed to get injured - atleast more than anyone else who plays the game.

linebackers dont have the speed or body control to cover rob gronkowski, they're not even a concern for holliday unless the quarterback floats one into a defender.
 
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mccluster from the same draft (5'7" 170lbs) played all 16 games last year as a runningback and receiver. dunta robinson at 5'10" 183lbs is considered one of the hardest hitting db's in the league. wes welker, julian edelman, danny woodhead, danny amendola, desean jackson, darren sproles and 44 million other quick midgets are making their way in the NFL. i'm not sure why you're assuming that he's guaranteed to get injured - atleast more than anyone else who plays the game.

linebackers dont have the speed or body control to cover rob gronkowski, they're not even a concern for holliday unless the quarterback floats one into a defender.

Holliday is 5'5 169 and he is not the caliber of robinson, gronkowski, or mccluster. Despite that mccluster missed signifigant time in college due to injury (shoulderx2,concussion,ankle, and swine flu (lol)) His rookie year in the nfl he missed 6 games. The kc coaching staff has reportedly tried to keep his touches per game around 10 to help minimize his beating.

Welker injury status probable/questionable/IR -30 career games

woodhead injury status IR/questionable/probable - 27 career games

Danny Amedola injury status IR/questionable/doubtfull - 19 career games

Julian Edelman injury status questionable/OUT/probable/doubtfull -25 career games

desean jackson injury status probable/questionable/out -12 career games

Darren sproles injury status questionable/IR -26 career games

All of these guys are bigger then Holliday. Let time tell the story.
 
(on if RT Derek Newton is putting pressure on RT Rashad Butler for a starting spot) “No doubt. He’s playing really well. We’re in shorts, so it’s hard to tellwith big guys. Athletically and then now mentally, (Derek) Newton is catching up enough to battle for a starting spot. So that’ll be a really good battle.”

(on what he likes about RT Derek Newton) “He can run. He’s very strong. I think I’ve told you over and over again the biggest thing is he came from a program where he didn’t have a great football background knowledge-wise. That’s not his fault. He’s catching up, so he’s learning NFL-wise, film-wise all the fronts he’s got to see. When that gets automatic for him there’s no doubt in my mind he’s got a chance to be a starter.”
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Looks like Newton is for real. This 2010 7th round pick has turned out to be a real value choice for the Texans and whichever scout who saw the potential for this young man deserves a bonus.
 
Hold onto whatever illusions you like. Guys 5'5 169 lbs or in the same mold are more injury prone. PERIOD.

What is your beef with Holliday? QUESTION MARK?

Nobody is saying he is going to be a star, but if he can give us 10 plays or so, he has game breaking speed and can really help the team. PERIOD.
 
Nobody is saying he is going to be a star, but if he can give us 10 plays or so, he has game breaking speed and can really help the team.

I would love to see that as well. I WANT him to succeed. Out of all the people named I think we forgot one...


Trindon Holliday injury status - injured reserve - 16 games + playoffs ! (exclimation point)
 
Welker injury status probable/questionable/IR -30 career games

woodhead injury status IR/questionable/probable - 27 career games

Danny Amedola injury status IR/questionable/doubtfull - 19 career games

Julian Edelman injury status questionable/OUT/probable/doubtfull -25 career games

desean jackson injury status probable/questionable/out -12 career games

Darren sproles injury status questionable/IR -26 career games

perfect example that everybody gets injured eventually in football, though several of those injuries had nothing to do with size or impact. wes welker's knee giving out without being touched for example. mario williams is just about a perfect physical specimen in football and always had a nagging injury, andre's not far behind. sure you dont want little guys being your wedge busters or taking a 5 yard cross against a cover 2, but that's common sense - similar actions are taken at every position to protect from major and unseen hits. obviously leading him blindly into patrick willis is going to hurt holliday a lot more than it would brandon marshall, but that's why coaches try to be smart about these guys (such as limiting snaps). given that, i'm no more concerned about the odds of holliday getting hurt than i would be anyone else on the team.

Trindon Holliday injury status - injured reserve - 16 games + playoffs

kinda hard to hold that one against him, as i understand it was a relatively minor thumb injury that was enough to allow him on IR instead of using a space on the practice squad.

i get what you're saying, but at only 5'5" there's proportionately plenty of muscle on the kid. i dont think he's going to make it because of the fear about his size as well as how specialized his role would have to be, but he's definitely fun for me to root for because of being that elusive waterbug with world class speed. get him the ball and see what he can create.
 
Trindon Holliday injury status - injured reserve - 16 games + playoffs ! (exclimation point)

Trindon was not on the injured reserve last year. He was on the practice squad and was even called up for 1 game in which he didn't get the chance to do anything other than fair catch.
 
Trindon was not on the injured reserve last year. He was on the practice squad and was even called up for 1 game in which he didn't get the chance to do anything other than fair catch.

he was IR'd his rookie season with a thumb injury.
 
ooops. Yup 2011. A season nonetheless. I actually want to see him make it as a kick returner. Just dont think he's gonna hold up. Doesnt k martin do kick offs and punt return duties?
 
Trinidon has had to deal with size issues from when he was just a youngster. He has always been labelled as too good to be true. Yet he has, at least to this point, been able to run with the big boys.

Issues with size

Holliday returns a kickoff in the second half against South Carolina on September 22, 2007.Holliday had a difficult time getting started in football. His mother held him out of football until 7th grade, because she was afraid he would get hurt. After several years of performing at a high level, his high school coaches finally let him start as a running back during his junior year. In his senior year he accumulated over 2,000 yards and over 30 touchdowns, leading Northeast High to back-to-back State Semi-Final appearances.

Fearing that college recruiters would not believe Holliday's actual running times, his high school coaches added to his recorded times before sending them in. Despite his speed records, several schools, including Duke and Louisiana-Lafayette, rejected Holliday due to his small size.

Holliday was never scheduled to appear at LSU's camp. LSU was interested in another Northeast player, (WR Aaron Brown) but that player didn't want to go to the camp alone. So David Masterson, Holliday's high school coach, took Holliday along also. After initial workouts, Holliday ran the 40 in 4.28 seconds wearing high top basketball shoes. The time was so outrageous that the LSU coaches began arguing if they had started their stopwatches on time. "They asked me if Trindon could run it again," Masterson said. "He didn't even get in a track stance. He ran the second 40 in 4.27. He's one of those little freaks of nature." Despite this, LSU coach Les Miles still considered canceling Holliday's scholarship offer until holdover offensive coordinator Jimbo Fisher convinced Miles that Holliday could play at a college level.

Reported in one source I've read to be ~4.20 (He went on to run an NFL Combine 40 in 4.21).
 
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