One great game, and everyone proclaims VY our saviour

[dirty steve]

brady didn't "sit out" in the sense that palmer did. while palmer was expected to be a starter early in his career, brady was drafted to be bledsoe's caddy indefinately. it was only after bledsoe was knocked out of bounds on that scramble that Brady became a hero in New England.

you might want to straighten out your comparisons.

 

[Snapple]

Anyone who thinks Vince Young has only played one good game, or who wasn't a good QB before last night, hasn't watched much Longhorns football. He leads all college football QBs in passing efficiency for a reason. Even if he couldn't run a lick, he'd still be a superstar. That's why he shouldn't ever be compared to Michael Vick.

The fact that he can confuse defenses and has that extra dimension is only a plus. He's probably the greatest college QB that I've ever seen, and he's certainly a hero of mine, being a Longhorn and all.

The reason he ran so much last night (even though he threw 40 times) is because the defense gave it to him. He's a great decision maker, and he will find a weakness in any college defense. Pro is a whole other level, but you could say the same thing about any college QB. Once he develops as a QB, I think he'll master pro defenses as well. He's had this kinda of potential all along, and the game last night didn't change a thing at all for me.

That being said, we really, really, really need O-line help. I would hate for us to ruin a great talent like Young the same way we ruined Carr. If we manage to get a good O-line regardless, then sure, draft Young.

O-line should still be priority number one, but I won't lie. If we can get my favorite college player of all time on my favorite pro team, I wouldn't be against it.

 

[LongBignasty1]

Snapple, im in total agreemnet with you. Ohio state(A.J. Hawk)? Oklohoma?
Michigan?

O-line is a must but i think if we add 2 linemen with the second round and third round picks and Lecharles Bentley we are rockin in a few years on O.

 

[Kaiser Toro]

I love VY in burnt orange and will be a fan of his in the pros, but no to him in a Texans uniform. Have we not learned that a first pick QB hamstrings a team in the salary cap era? I am not a Carr fan, but we need to leverage the prospect of VY coming out and do a back door deal with Carr's people for a renegotiated contract after the release of Carr. Then go ahead and trade down to get more picks with the first. VY coming out could be a boon for us without taking him, hopefully Cass and Reeves will be up to the task.

One last thing, if Kubiak is the front runner do you think he wants a VY or Carr type of QB? It is my opinion that it would be Carr for a first time HC. I cannot fathom a team having two number one picks at QB, it is an absolutely asinine prospect.

 

[tulexan]

\I am not a Carr fan, but we need to leverage the prospect of VY coming out and do a back door deal with Carr's people for a renegotiated contract after the release of Carr.

Interesting idea.

 

[LoneStarState]

VY can't ad-lib in the NFL the way he does at UT. If he does - he'll get the crap knocked out of him all of the time. There's no doubting his talent - but the UT offense is not an NFL-type offense. We don't know what type of pocket presence he has, we don't know if he can take a snap directly from the center (which is important), and we don't know how he plays behind a bad OL (UT has a much better OL than the Texans).

I understand the euphoria over VY - but that will wear off. I was firmly in the "Draft VY #1" club after the game and this morning. BUT I have come down off that a little.

And John McClain's take on what to do by drafting VY, sitting him behind Carr for a year - then send Carr packing... Don't think that will work at all. Carr would be the lame duck and he couldn't care less about grooming the QB who will take his job at the end of the season. Oh - and the crap about "if Bush bombs people will be mad - but if VY bombs it will be ok" is just stupid.

Sorry - but I'm a little tired of all the "VY is god" stuff after 1 game. Ok - all those who disagree can fling away...

 

[CaptainPatriot]

brady didn't "sit out" in the sense that palmer did. while palmer was expected to be a starter early in his career, brady was drafted to be bledsoe's caddy indefinately. it was only after bledsoe was knocked out of bounds on that scramble that Brady became a hero in New England.

you might want to straighten out your comparisons.

I wasn`t making a comparison between the 2 on how they were drafted. Just showing what they had in common by watching on the side lines their 1st yr. Same goes for Montana he came in games his 1st yr when the games were blow outs no pressure. 1 good comparison is look at Jim Plunkett and David Carr. Both 1st overall picks in their draft and started from day 1. We see what happen with Jim with the PATS Hope that doesn`t happen to Carr here

 

[Pscooter21]

But will you explain to me why you think Vince Young will make the Texans better? Because he can scramble? Yipee. He had arguably the greatest COLLEGE game of all time. Last I checked, the Texans were in the NFL. There's no sure bet than Vince Young will succeed in the NFL.

There is no sure bet that David Carr will get better either. It is quite possible he has been irreparably damaged. He seemed to have happy feet even when he wasn't under great pressure. The thing is Vince can't do any worse. the notion that we are one or two players off is a bit of wishfull thinking. We need to be prepaired for the worst and hope for the best. Great discusion.

Later.......................

Pscooter21....................

 

[axman40]

And still have no blocking. THat makes no sense to me. Is there anyone here that agrees we need offensive linemen that can block? We need them long before we need running back or quarterbacks. We are fine with the backs we have now. Well not we, I don't play, but the Texans. I just don't get all the drool over qb and rbs.

Yes I would take VY or White and not use the rest of the draft!

 

[HomeBred_Texan]

OPEN YOUR FRIGGIN EYES. All of the commentators are saying that VY had the GREATEST GAME of all time. Yeah we should stick with David frickin Carr instead. Having VY who is a Houstonian and a Texas legend would energize this city like nothing before. We should by all means stick behind a bust. Laughable man.

Not all of us feel this way. If we draft Vince, you can buy my season tickets for next year and go and see him play. Not me, no thanks...

 

[SteelBlueToro]

I for one do not feel like waiting 3, 4, 5, 6, or 7 years of VY to develop into a pro quarterback. I'm ready for the Texans to win now - or as soon as possible. The Mike and Mike show on ESPN2 this morning made good points about qbs and their abilities and making sure one doesn't make the offense become one dimensional by relying on their instinct to run first (makes the receivers relax and payless attention - this is paraphrased, of course).