Once again now . . . do you keep Carr?

[Kaiser Toro]

Actually, check back into the first couple pages of the thread and you'll see that I do not advocate paying him the $8 million. I maintain my stance that any QB put in our offense for the past 3+ years would be in the same position Carr is in. As sad as that is, you have to staunch the bleeding, both in play and in salary. Renegotiate his contract if he wants to stay, or let him go, whichever. Don't pay $8 million to something you're going to waste. Similarly, don't go out and draft a 1st round QB and pay $50 million or more before you are ready to protect that investment.

Touche my fellow Texan. If you read my posts, as well, then you would see that you and I are in the same camp.

 

[Bongo59]

If Carr was to leave, I bet the Jets, Bears, or even the Skins would make a hard push for him...

carr would never get 8 million from anybody except the Texans..........he is worse than harrington..................the Texans should let him go rebuild the OL first let Raggone play, save the cap and get a QB in round one in 2007.......that is th eresponsible way to go about it...........no way you can justify that cash to Carr.

 

[CajunTexan]

Well, according to some NFL employees, he is part of the problem….
http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/sports/3392632

According to McClain in this same article, we will be able to debate Carrs performance for an additional three years, as he states that McNair will pony up the money to extend his contract for 3 more years before the season is over.

Also, a good article in this weeks SI about young QB's. Their take on Carr is that he has had some success and is still considered a franchise QB with a great arm, although he is showing signs of regressing this year. Obviously not saying anything new, just someone else's view.

 

[CajunTexan]

carr would never get 8 million from anybody except the Texans..........he is worse than harrington..................the Texans should let him go rebuild the OL first let Raggone play, save the cap and get a QB in round one in 2007.......that is th eresponsible way to go about it...........no way you can justify that cash to Carr.

Bongo...do you honestly believe that Joey Harrington is a better QB than Carr? If so, please give me some justification of this opinion, before I dismiss it as ridiculous! On second thought, never mind.

Dissssssmmmmiiissssseeeedddddd! :brickwall

 

[Kaiser Toro]

According to McClain in this same article, we will be able to debate Carrs performance for an additional three years, as he states that McNair will pony up the money to extend his contract for 3 more years before the season is over.

Also, a good article in this weeks SI about young QB's. Their take on Carr is that he has had some success and is still considered a franchise QB with a great arm, although he is showing signs of regressing this year. Obviously not saying anything new, just someone else's view.

Fair article, thanks for posting.

Sounds like an endorsement or the kiss of death, regardless the holy grail has escaped us again.

 

[infantrycak]

carr would never get 8 million from anybody except the Texans..........he is worse than harrington..................the Texans should let him go rebuild the OL first let Raggone play, save the cap and get a QB in round one in 2007.......that is th eresponsible way to go about it...........no way you can justify that cash to Carr.

As an FYI to everyone. Bongo is yet another Flaming Tack fan who is generously donating his time to the Texans to tell them how to right the ship. Thanks Bongo for the insightful and oh so honest comparison of Harrington to Carr.

 

[Bongo59]

what does it matter who i root for? the decision on Carr should be an easy one no matter who you root for............he has done nothing to deserve the bonus.

 

[infantrycak]

To deserve the bonus, no, but that isn't really the question. NFL teams operate within a salary cap and have to be built primarily thru the draft. Option #1 is certainly to try to renegotiate a lower cap figure with him but the cost of dumping from a busted pick perspective and having to replace use another pick plus the cap money into the new pick and the time to train up a new QB all within a scheme of trying to get an OL that won't get any QB killed mean the decision is not so obvious.

Who you root for matters when you make silly comments like Harrington is better than Carr. Despite Carr's less than stellar performance, his QB rating has been better than Harrington's every single year even though Harrington in his career has been sacked 15 less times than Carr was his rookie year and Harrington plays on an offense with 7 1st round picks and Carr plays in one with 2.

 

[CajunTexan]

To deserve the bonus, no, but that isn't really the question. NFL teams operate within a salary cap and have to be built primarily thru the draft. Option #1 is certainly to try to renegotiate a lower cap figure with him but the cost of dumping from a busted pick perspective and having to replace use another pick plus the cap money into the new pick and the time to train up a new QB all within a scheme of trying to get an OL that won't get any QB killed mean the decision is not so obvious.

Who you root for matters when you make silly comments like Harrington is better than Carr. Despite Carr's less than stellar performance, his QB rating has been better than Harrington's every single year even though Harrington in his career has been sacked 15 less times than Carr was his rookie year and Harrington plays on an offense with 7 1st round picks and Carr plays in one with 2.

Can i get a "Hoo/Haw" for infantrycak??!!! That's what I'm talkin' 'bout!

 

[SESupergenius]

Lesson to newbies:

2 things you don't want to do on this board:

1) Don't argue with Huge about the Cowboys

2) Don't argue with Infantry about the Texans

 

[Vinny]

Or argue with Ses about the 3-4