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Okay, who you pounding the table for?
- Thread starter Texansphan
- Start date
Yes, Egbuka ran at the OSU pro day. The reason I'm not against picking him is I think he's a lot like JSN. Runs great routes that Stroud can trust, good hands, blocker, is ok RAC. He's kinda like JSN. BTW, JSN ran a 4.52 at his OSU pro day.
calishung7717
Waterboy
I like him as well. Really excited for the draft. Just wish they had a couple more top 100 picks.
If they were to trade a 2026 late 2nd from the Redskins trade they probably could get another 3rd and find a top level RB there.
badboy
Hall of Fame
Why can't we get a dancing mauling bear?
badboy
Hall of Fame
We can get RB round 5 and all we need is run stopper nose type on defense . I'm pushing 6'6" 464 pound Dez Watson round 7. Sure he needs weight training but Texans can supply that. He lifted 225 pounds 36 times! Dude is a cement wall that moves.
25, 58, 79 and 89 solidifies roster. Nick's magic may even add to that.
25, 58, 79 and 89 solidifies roster. Nick's magic may even add to that.
BullRushTX
To'oTo'o A'go-go
He moves surprisingly well for a 464 lb man too
I think Banks is a mauler. A mauler than can pull, get to the 2nd level, and get out on screens.
Tate Ratledge is this guy.
I'm going to go ahead and put out my SB Mock 4.0 subject to change if Caserio makes a pre-draft trade. If you have time go to the Mock section and give me your thoughts.
beerlover
Hall of Fame
Really think he’s a great LG prospect. Pulling & 2nd level, with ability to pick up stunts. Don’t want to expose him on an island.
badboy
Hall of Fame
Yep but as I stated earlier his injury history turns me away.
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Don't know why? He stays in balance and does a good job of keeping the rusher in front of him. Reminds me of Rashawn Slater.
SnakeEyes
Under NRG
But he plays faster with a lot of explosion. Keep in mind a certain RB from Tennessee who put up stats that left him undrafted. He went on to be our best RB to date...Arian Foster.
Tennessee's Pro Day when he registered a 4.65 40-yard dash, 4.50 short shuttle, vertical leap and 9′7″ broad jump.
As for pounding the table... I do for a trade, DOWN 3 to 5 picks. Snag another 3rd probably (toss in Peirce to cement it).
Injury?
He was fairly healthy last yr. 3 yr starter and was healthy by the end of the yr. Starter on a National Championship team. The Rope surgery seems to really be a break through when it comes to ankle injuries. Look at Ratledge's teammate Bowers as an example.
SnakeEyes
Under NRG
Texans land 4 SEC standouts, potential WR No. 2 in new 7-round mock draft
In a new seven-round mock, the Houston Texans walk out of the mock with three Day 1 starters and potentially two new offensive pieces.
texanswire.usatoday.com
Minus swapping the S for a TE, this draft would be one I would pound the table for. And MAYBE a different WR.
I'd be a bit upset if the draft fell that wayTexans land 4 SEC standouts, potential WR No. 2 in new 7-round mock draft
In a new seven-round mock, the Houston Texans walk out of the mock with three Day 1 starters and potentially two new offensive pieces.texanswire.usatoday.com
Minus swapping the S for a TE, this draft would be one I would pound the table for. And MAYBE a different WR.
badboy
Hall of Fame
Yep and you can also look at Tua Tagavailova's. But then again, Jalen hurts is doing okay
Tua's ankle isn't the issue.
leebigeztx
Keep it Movin!
Yeah, I think he can. I'm residing to the fact they will probably spend another high pick on oline. I like Conerly feet alot. He's kinda advanced too even if he's beat. I think you play him at LG this year and draft Miles Frazier on day 3. Next yr, kick him out to tackle.
I would definitely give up 1-25 and a 2026 2nd for Conerly. I might even give up a 2026 1st to move into the top 15 for him. I like him that much and if he can play LG that would be optimal. He definitely has the feet to be able to pull and can hit his targets on the 2nd level. He's a big dude, so he should be able to atleast hold up against power when it comes to bull rushes. Last yrs LG play has everybody around here traumatized.
leebigeztx
Keep it Movin!
You think the Eagles would've won the sb without Mitchell and DeJean
TheRealJoker V2
Veteran
That’s two players and did they trade a 1st or second the following year for them?
austins23
Hall of Fame
A huge need for this oline, mean AND athletic. Can’t think of one lineman currently rostered that can pull and lead a power. Or hell even a simple trap play is a challenge
Rich Schmidt
Myopicone
or get out for a screen
badboy
Hall of Fame
Egbuka compares a lot to JSN not only size but abilities and I hope that continues in NFL. His 2nd year with Seattle, he had over thousand yards. Egbuka OSU with connection to Stroud in what should be similar offense with Houston should trap rewards. May take time to ramp up outside abilities yet i don't think so. I'm considering him now @ 1.25. I want a starter and that will not be OT or OG.
I think Caserio has set up left side allowing OL later with time to work behind starter with less pressure. Jackson round 2 with Charles Grant round 3.
House of Pain
Wild Speculator
If I had my pick, I'd trade with the Bears to pick up more picks:
TEXANS RECEIVE:
2-39
2-41
3-72
BEARS RECEIVE:
1-25
3-79
This would allow the Texans to have two picks in the top half of the 2nd Round, along with their own pick. Their picks through the first 3 rounds would look like this:
2-39
2-41
2-58
3-72
I know, you give up your first rounder, but I think some good players are going to be available in the top of the 2nd round. We get an extra player in the top 100. Wishful thinking.
TEXANS RECEIVE:
2-39
2-41
3-72
BEARS RECEIVE:
1-25
3-79
This would allow the Texans to have two picks in the top half of the 2nd Round, along with their own pick. Their picks through the first 3 rounds would look like this:
2-39
2-41
2-58
3-72
I know, you give up your first rounder, but I think some good players are going to be available in the top of the 2nd round. We get an extra player in the top 100. Wishful thinking.
Why would the Bears do this?
House of Pain
Wild Speculator
Porky
Hall of Fame
Wouldn't that give us five picks in the top 100? We had two third-rounders. I think the second one is 89? Where did 89 go?
As the saying goes, it takes two to tango. To me at least...it's roughly equal that they stick and pick at 25, move up to grab someone, or trade back to gain an asset or two.
I think it's a very fluid situation and won't take shape until the chips start falling next Thursday.
As the saying goes, it takes two to tango. To me at least...it's roughly equal that they stick and pick at 25, move up to grab someone, or trade back to gain an asset or two.
I think it's a very fluid situation and won't take shape until the chips start falling next Thursday.
I'm not against drafting Egbuka at 1-25.
However starter or not if I get a chance to draft Conerly or Banks at 1-25 give me that and then I'll be very happy with a Noel/ Williams/Royal/Ayomanor at 2-58.
I certainly can understand where you're coming from though. Egbuka is one of the safest picks in this draft. IMHO
It's about the value of the pick. Last year, Casario moved down well before draft day. Later, we saw why with the Diggs trade. More often, the pick's value becomes apparent during the draft. A team looking to move ahead of the team behind the Texans, in this case the Rams. If there is a QB available that multiple teams like, the Texans could have a lot of bargaining power.
badboy
Hall of Fame
My next door neighbor asked me today if I had heard of this guy. Laughingly, I said yeah he's the Rage of the message board!
badboy
Hall of Fame
It just depends who was available at those pics but I'm not sure Chicago would make that move.
House of Pain
Wild Speculator
You are correct, I omitted the 89th pick. I will try not to have 'happy fingers' the next time I post
I don't have the "Jimmy Johnson table" in front of me to determine what we would need to give up. They may not. My point still remains, I would like to see them either move up for someone they really like that can be a game changer for the offense, or I would like them to get extra picks on Day 2 of the draft.
badboy
Hall of Fame
I think there will be enough good talent at 25 that we can select there or trade down and still get good players. I am not interested in trading up for anyoneYou are correct, I omitted the 89th pick. I will try not to have 'happy fingers' the next time I post
I don't have the "Jimmy Johnson table" in front of me to determine what we would need to give up. They may not. My point still remains, I would like to see them either move up for someone they really like that can be a game changer for the offense, or I would like them to get extra picks on Day 2 of the draft.
Foster was recovering from injury at his pro day. He was more like a 4.5 guy.
leebigeztx
Keep it Movin!
You said there isn't a player in the draft that could help the Texans win the superbowl next year. I countered with the eagles then you said 2 players. You nor I know how good or great a college player can or will be, but if they feel like said player is special, then why not? You can always recove a pick
Give me 2 special players and a solid starter out of every draft and I'll have a good team. Example Give me Loveland and Conerly plus a solid WR like Royals and that would be a great draft. If Loveland fell to 1-25 and you picked him with Conerly still on the board would you trade back into the top of the 2nd using 2-58 and a 2026 2nd for Conley? Then draft Jaylen Royals at 3-79? The more special players you've got on your team the better, that's if you've got your QB.
TheRealJoker V2
Veteran
You posted two players… And if we’re nitpicking who really had the Super Bowl worthy impact?
Those rookies played well but getting a 2000 yard season out of Saquon and bargain bin all pro LB in Zach Baun were the big contributions that got them the trophy.
I’d argue Lassiter and Bullock played just as well if not better than those Eagles DBs. But the Texans didn’t get past round 2. If they had Baun or Saquon maybe we’d have seen something different…
I know you’d rather have had Baun covering Kelce over 0.
X3…
I think Zabel is everybodys favorite DEI prospect, but only if he was an SEC guy instead
of somebody who has basically played JUCO competition in his college career !
I just can't get that excited about this Draft as I think even now 2 years later I'm still
warming in the glow of Casserios spectacular one-two strike of CJ & Will.
Wow that was fun !
of somebody who has basically played JUCO competition in his college career !
I just can't get that excited about this Draft as I think even now 2 years later I'm still
warming in the glow of Casserios spectacular one-two strike of CJ & Will.
Wow that was fun !
I dunno if there's any way Nick drafts a defensive player in the first round, say a DT?
How would you handicap that Porky ?
I would agree with you if Zabel wasn't actually a good player. Not a sexy player, but a really good player who will only get better.
I dunno but it would seem to me that evaluating a prospects chances of succeeding, and certainly his chances of playing very well at the NFL level would be a lot more challenging if he's faced very little if any superior competition in college ?
There have been many good OL recently that have been drafted high from small schools. (Ali Marpet/Cody Mauch/ Quinn Meinertz etc...) To me Zabel has the athletic ability and farm boy work ethic to be as good as these guys are. Of course I'm biased because I grew up working on a farm.
I'll say this, imagine how much better the Texans would've been if they had drafted Meinertz in rd 3 instead of Mills. Meinertz is a top 3 OG in the NFL.
badboy
Hall of Fame
Want to evaluating an NFL player, you not only look at his competition but also how he performed against said competition and also is body skills and his talents. From a small school perspective, I want a player to dominate his opponent or if in a skilled position have overwhelming stats.
Example: Harold Fannin Bowling Green or Charles Grant William and Mary.
Porky
Hall of Fame
I think they go offense, but I dunno…maybe 20% they go D, most likely DT. You can never rule out DeMeco falling in love with a prospect, and especially if they have said prospect in a higher tier than the offensive players.
Still…thinking D is a longshot. It’s most likely o-line, possibly WR. Also can’t rule out TE completely but also a longshot.
Porky
Hall of Fame
OT is gonna die on the Donovan Jackson hill, and BB is gonna die on the Fanin and Grant hill.
I like certain guys and have some favs but I don’t fall in love with any single prospect. I like Booker more than most…but I’m not about to swear he’s the next coming of Larry Allen.