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OK now . . let's trade the 1st pick
- Thread starter Marcus
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Texans_Chick
Utopian Dreamer
stevo3883 said:
You have violated one of the jinx rules. You can't say no way that X player can be a bust because there are an infinite number of ways that they can be.
Maurice Clarett has an arrest warrant in connection with allegedly robbing some folks last night. Did anyone foresee that as he was winning a National Championship?
All it takes is somebody landing funny on Bush during a practice, or deciding to take up motorcycle riding or smoking dope or any number of fluke or nonfluke things.....
Do not mess with jinxes. Do not mess with the NFL gods. Do not mess with fate.
The draft game is about talent, evaulation of talent and a whole heck of a lot of luck.
I'm just trying to keep an open mind.
(Though my opinion is that no matter what the deal, we will get Bush because the Chronic guys are making it difficult to do otherwise, and because of marketing reasons--if the general public believes something is the way to go, it is really hard to buck that, no matter what the reasons).
Texans_Chick said:
You have violated one of the jinx rules. You can't say no way that X player can be a bust because there are an infinite number of ways that they can be.
Maurice Clarett has an arrest warrant in connection with allegedly robbing some folks last night. Did anyone foresee that as he was winning a National Championship?
All it takes is somebody landing funny on Bush during a practice, or deciding to take up motorcycle riding or smoking dope or any number of fluke or nonfluke things.....
Do not mess with jinxes. Do not mess with the NFL gods. Do not mess with fate.
The draft game is about talent, evaulation of talent and a whole heck of a lot of luck.
I'm just trying to keep an open mind.
(Though my opinion is that no matter what the deal, we will get Bush because the Chronic guys are making it difficult to do otherwise, and because of marketing reasons--if the general public believes something is the way to go, it is really hard to buck that, no matter what the reasons).
you're talking about a freak injury.
I was obviously talking about Reggie Bush being a total failure performance wise like Hollings.
of course every player could suffer a career ending injury at any moment.... thats a given.
But saying there is a chance Bush ends up like hollings is the most ridiculous outlandish statement I have ever heard. Any shred of common sense shouts that there is a 0% chance of him never seeing the field .
Texans_Chick
Utopian Dreamer
stevo3883 said:
You see, you can think those things but you best not type them. It is a jinx. It is tempting fate. It is angrying up the football gods. I've been a sports fan long enough that I have a list of sports jinxes a mile long. There are things you cannot say and there are jinxes so bad that you cannot even think them. ("Wow, against the Rams, we are finally going to get a huge blow out win. This is great!")
Hollings-Bush isn't a great comparison because the type of expectations built for THE #1 Draft choice, THE Prez who had a game named after him--the Bush Bowl, etc etc--well that fellow is gonna have some serious hype and contract to have to live up to. Quite frankly, I dint have big expectations for Hollings--where we picked him up in the supp draft, he was just like a lagniappe to me--if he turned out good, nice for us, if not so what.
It ain't easy being a rookie in the NFL. Especially one that is maybe not playing with the best O line in the league. And maybe one who might be a little tweener for his position. I'm not saying he is gonna be a bust, but I wouldn't try to jinx him either.
Let's hope for no hold out. Or freak injury. Or criminal mischief. Or any nearly infinite number of things that have derailed no miss guys in the past.
I am not just talking about your post. I know it is against logic, and reason and jubilant dancing about getting yet another Texans loss, but my jinx worrying self is afraid of this #1 pick and all the hype around it. It is like the hype is gonna curse it.
Injuries are not freaky in football, BTW. It is probably more freaky not to get injured as a RB.
GoBlue
Noob
NOBODY ever said Biakabatuka or Enis were heade to the HOF. Ki-Jana Carter was over hyped but also played in a weakened Big Ten (see Ron Dayne).
Athleticism is athleticism, no matter what conference you play in. And Champions are champions, at any level.
One player can make a big difference- what would the colts be without Manning? Seahawks without Alexander? Patriots without Brady? Chargers without LT?
Athleticism is athleticism, no matter what conference you play in. And Champions are champions, at any level.
One player can make a big difference- what would the colts be without Manning? Seahawks without Alexander? Patriots without Brady? Chargers without LT?
CajunTexan
Waterboy
texplayer2 said:With the first pick in the draft the Houston Texans select Reggie Bush.
I see no other alternative for the Texans than this take. The Bush hype has only just begun and the final weekend in April is a long time from now, but can you hear the talking heads if we trade this pick?
I don't think Reggie is the second coming of anyone, but our current front office has not displayed the ability to make a trade for more picks and do anything worthwhile with them. If Bush has a great Rose Bowl, which I hope he does in a losing effort, and shows his skills at the combine, there would be no way we could not take him.
MorKnolle
All Pro
CITY CAT said:
When has McNair ever made it clear he wants Bush? He still isn't even allowed to publically comment on drafting Bush because Bush has not officially declared for the draft, and Casserly and others in the organization have made it pretty clear they don't see how you can spend the #1 pick on a part-time player.
Honoring Earl 34
Something Witty !
I posted this trade already on another thread but here it is .Raiders get Carr and 1st pick .
Texans get 06 and 07 1st round picks
06 2nd and 3rd round picks
Robert Gallery and Doug Gabriel
MorKnolle
All Pro
Honoring Earl 34 said:
Raiders get Carr and 1st pick .
Texans get 06 and 07 1st round picks
06 2nd and 3rd round picks
Robert Gallery and Doug Gabriel
How does this trade help us? I doubt the value of the draft picks evens out, plus signing Carr and trading him would hit us with $8 million dead cap plus we don't get a QB out of the deal and will have to look to draft one at the #6/7 pick, plus Carr is a good QB if we surround him with competent coaches and talent.
Honoring Earl 34
Something Witty !
Gallery , better LT prospect than anybody in this draft . Gabriel a 2nd WR. Best BPA with the 6th pick this year . Two high 1st round picks next year ( Vince Young or Brady Quin ) . Two seconds and three 3rds this year . We'd be much better off .STEEL BLUE TEXANS
Hall of Fame
Does anyone really trust Casserly with extra picks if we were to trade down?
Well i do think since we have the 1st pick in the draft say we do plan to go after Bush we could use that as a push to get some top OL FA's to come here. If i was a hutchinson or a Bentley knowing that they have Carr, Johnson, Davis, Bush, Mathis, and Gaffney... pplus Pitts isnt doing all that bad at T and weigert and wade are doing good. Plus Hodgdon is coming off an injury. I would think a top FA gaurd would love to come here. If we sign say a Hutchinson or a Bentley then by all means take Bush. We need to use that as a lure to get him. I think alot of people that want Bush arent looking at it this way. I think they are just seeing Bush but dont understand what it takes to make it happen. Just taking Bush without upgrading the O-line is pointless. Then we could take a Giles or a McNeil, or Setterstrom or someone like that in the 2nd for depth. But signing the FA is a mandatory for this pick to happen. I wish Justice and McClain would bring this out in their collumns because they SHOULD know.
Dont be sad if we do trade down if we dont sign any OL FA's. Either way we are getting a benefit. We should of never let sharper and Glenn go. Plus Wong is coming off an injury. Orr, Peek, and Babin are all UFA or RFA's. So before i say we go 1 way or the other i wanna see what happens in FA. I think that will decide who we take.
Dont be sad if we do trade down if we dont sign any OL FA's. Either way we are getting a benefit. We should of never let sharper and Glenn go. Plus Wong is coming off an injury. Orr, Peek, and Babin are all UFA or RFA's. So before i say we go 1 way or the other i wanna see what happens in FA. I think that will decide who we take.
MorKnolle
All Pro
STEEL BLUE TEXANS said:
Casserly has done pretty good in the draft, his main problem has been negotiating trades for NFL players we don't need (Buchanon) or trading back into the draft to get Babin when we didn't need to trade up to get him (some blame to Capers for wanting him that much, much blame to Cass and whoever else involved for not realizing he'd last another 10 picks and for giving up so much for him) and in signing free agents/resigning players (Wade, Greenwood to huge contracts, Coleman, Walker, Payne, etc. to huge extensions).
MorKnolle
All Pro
CITY CAT said:Travis Johnson over Derrick Johnson????
Well, I have to believe they thought Derrick would be available at #16 when they made that trade, despite them saying they wanted TJ all along. I don't understand why they wouldn't just get DJ or one of the OTs, but I still think they anticipated getting DJ at #16. That was a blunder, but I put that in with the trade mistakes since I think it was their intention to draft DJ.
Honoring Earl 34
Something Witty !
I wonder if you have better chance of 1 player (Bush ) becoming a star or getting a good return on three or four picks ?If Bennie Joppru caught 75 passes for 14 TDs and 1000 yds . would he be rookie of the year or comeback player of the year ?