Jack Burton
Veteran
Yeah, I’m hopeful a stealth team is going to jump in here.
I could easily see PITT.
Vegas, sure. But that town with Watson……
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I could easily see PITT.
Vegas, sure. But that town with Watson……
Texansphan
Football connoisseur
Tend to agree.
If TT is serviceable I can definitely see Caserio playing it cool and maybe taking a QB with his second or third pick and taking safer bets with his first ones.
badboy
Hall of Fame
Just to clarify, I mention Raiders and Steelers interested in Dolphins Corner Xavien Howard as both projected to select CB in round one. I can see either offering 2022 round one & 2023 to Miami who sends both + theirs from SF to Texans for DW. I agree W should not be in LV.
Rich Schmidt
Myopicone
Vegas has the Texans at 4.5. I will take the under, but still hope for the over. A well coached team taking care of the ball, shortening the game, playing good special teams, and getting turnovers could win some games, albeit likely not exciting. I like the focus on the trenches and culture year one with an attempt to get bad contracts behind them. I still dumped my season tickets, but maybe they will show me something
nut
Veteran
There is a good chance we are going to stink unfortunately. If we get the 1st pick, there will probably be much better picks than Rattler. He is not a playmaker.
OptimisticTexan
2024 / Rebuilding Block 4 After Playoffs / Texans
I don’t think there will be a clear-cut RD1-01 QB1 in the 2022 NFL Draft. Personally, the top pick will probably reside on the defensive side of the ball.
2014 all over again?
banned1976
sleeper mode
The Texans are the second oldest team in the NFL. They have 29 players that will be free agents in 2022, 20 of which were signed this offseason on one year deals. That’s not a sign of a team competing for anything in 2021, or even 2022.
4 wins in 2020. 2-4 wins in 2021. And I’ll go ahead and call 2022 as a top end 6 win team.
4 wins in 2020. 2-4 wins in 2021. And I’ll go ahead and call 2022 as a top end 6 win team.
I’m worried that they’ll luck into 7-9 wins, think they did something right & overspend to keep some of those 20 one year deals.
OptimisticTexan
2024 / Rebuilding Block 4 After Playoffs / Texans
Even a better fit if the last name ended in a “d” versus an “r”…..Rattled.
vtech9
All Pro
I would prefer Desmond Ridder from the Cincinnati Bearcats, or maybe even the Liberty QB Willis. Willis can probably be had in the 2nd round.
banned1976
sleeper mode
The Vegas line is 4.5 wins. I am a gambler, or at least I used to be. There’s no way I’d bet the over.
I don’t feel that drafting #1 overall is going on be that great of an advantage in 2022. I do think winning 8 games will put them on the outside of the best talent
It’s highly likely we’re going to see a huge turnover in 2022. So even if the Texans exceed expectations, they’re still going to lose a lot of the players that got them there.
I’ll be rooting for them in every game with the knowledge that this is a team that will be torn apart next offseason.
I think this QB class is better than 2014.
The good thing (probably) is that they won't be over drafted with the run on QBs in the last few years.
leebigeztx
Keep it Movin!
4 games and Jimmy G will be the qb in 2022 for a 2nd rd draft pick. The team will be on the 
wheel for the next 4 yrs
wheel for the next 4 yrs
TexansBull
Hall of Fame
Because Houston is snake bitten?
Surreal McCoy
Rookie
They'll win a couple games just because law of averages. However, they do have a legitimate chance to be the very first 0-17 team.
4 games and Jimmy G will be the qb in 2022 for a 2nd rd draft pick. The team will be on the
I'm looking forward to this and I think adding Jimmy G and three 1sts plus pick 33 will go along way to making the Texans relevant again. Plus if Jimmy G doesn't work out then you will have a high pick in the 2023 draft and more picks to move up and draft a QB if needed.
What I really hope happens is they trade a 3rd for Jimmy G and draft Strong.
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Texian
Hall of Fame
If Jimmy G was the man you thought he was Belichick and Shanahan wouldn't be trading him for a 2nd RD pick.4 games and Jimmy G will be the qb in 2022 for a 2nd rd draft pick. The team will be on the
Jack Burton
Veteran
That would be ideal.
banned1976
sleeper mode
According to PFF, the Texans's highest ranking corner is Terrance Mitchell. He was the 36th best corner in the league last year. Even JJ Watt in his prime couldn't generate enough of a pass rush to make the Texans secondary look competent...that is if we use reason and logic
Tyrod Taylor needs a good running game to make him look decent. Based on what we know about the running backs, the best the Texans can hope for in that area is mediocre.
The reason I underlined "based on what we know" is because, even though this team is really new playing together, very few are unknowns in the league. All it takes is minimal research on these "new" guys to get a good feel for what to expect. Same thing with the coaching staff.
The best chance the Texans have of winning any games this year is some really bad luck for some of the other teams in the AFC South, a division that once again looks to be one of the weakest in the NFL. So the Texans have a decent chance of winning a small number of games but they also have a really good shot at 0-17.
I'll be interested in watching the games early in the season just because. I'm guessing that interest level is going to evaporate pretty quickly. I'll probably watch more college football this season than the NFL. Probably by a lot.
Texian
Hall of Fame
My GUESS is teams will stack the box against the Texans and shut down the run and dare Tyrod Taylor to beat them. Watson could do that about half of the time. Taylor has little chance.
banned1976
sleeper mode
Yep. And the Texans don't have anyone that can beat them over the top, either.
Surreal McCoy
Rookie
I'll be interested in watching like a rubbernecker watches a wreck on the freeway. It's all just so ludicrous that it's fascinating.
leebigeztx
Keep it Movin!
I dont think much of Jimmy G, but I see the play already. After the Watson trade next year, they're going to upgraded the qb situation short term with Jimmy. Since he's not a high caliber qb, he's not going to cost the 40+m . They're going to try to build the team to support the qb vs the qb being the dude. They have history with Jimmy. Whats going to happen is similar to Andy found out about Smith and Kyle about Jimmy. You can win games with them, but they're just good enough not to win a title. That play is coming
leebigeztx
Keep it Movin!
Or they will get up by soo much so quickly, the run game will be out of the equation
CstatTexan
Waterboy
I just hope the team isn’t dumb enough to tank and then get tired of losing midway and win enough games to end up with a mid round 1st.
That just sounds like something this organization would do
That just sounds like something this organization would do
sandman
Brexit Advisor
Luckily they don't have the talent to screw things up like this...
They've done this before.
Number19
Hall of Fame
Well, it's time for my kool-aid vote to cancel a hemlock vote. My early forecast was 3 - 5 wins. I think I'll bump this a smidge.
On offense we still don't have a proven star except for Tunsil at LT. But by moving Howard into the LG spot, and with the replacement of Nick Martin at OC with Justin Britt, the Texans are going to have a potent left side.
On the right side, Marcus Cannon will give us a veteran starter who should be an upgrade. By all accounts Max Scharping has improved his play from last season. Charlie Heck had a strong camp and, once he returns to active play, Lane Tayor could prove to be valuable veteran depth at RG.
At TE we are well set with Jordan Akins as an all purpose receiver and Pharaoh Brown as a blocker.
Some may disagree, but I think our receivers are a tight veteran group with Brandon Cooks, Chris Conley out wide and Anthony Miller in the slot. Backing them up we have rookie Nico Collins and veteran Danny Amendola.
Don't know quite how the running backs will shake out, but to start the season, I like Mark Ingram and Philip Lindsay sharing the load, with David Johnson in there somewhere. When we need one yard, David Burkhead may be getting the call. And then we have Scottie Phillips, our wild card. If he continues to run like he did during camp, he may be number one by the end of the season.
And that leaves QB. Tyrod Taylor did not perform up to my expectations during the limited snaps he had at camp. From what I heard on 610, this may have been because of the plain vanilla play calling by the coaches. But what I saw was a "noodle" arm. We have the receivers. Taylor is going to have to step it up and deliver a catchable ball to them.
It seems we may be a run heavy offense, but if Taylor can't pass effectively, our run game will be stopped.
Defensively. Our front four will be played on a rotational scheme, to keep everyone fresh and to wear down the opposing OL. Charles Omenihu, I'm calling it, will be a standout with double digit sacks, playing both outside and inside. When Omenihu moves inside, we have Whitney Mercilus on the outside, but he's another player who has missed practice time due to injury issues.
I was relying on Maliek Collins to be an anchor in the middle at LDT, but he's been having injury issues. Ross Blacklock backs him up. Vincent Taylor and rookie Roy Lopez are on the opposite side at RDT. We also have DeMarcus Walker.
I was counting on Jonathan Greenard to have a strong presence at RDE, but he's another player with lingering injury issues. Jordan Jenkins will apparently be the starter.
In spite of the several issues with injury, this positional group is deep and strong and should generate good pressure on opposing QB's. We should also be improved in run defense.
We'll have to wait and see how our linebackers are played, but we can expect more blitzing than in the past. Zach Cunningham will be at WLB, with Christian Kirksey moving into the MLB position as our defensive play caller. Kevin Pierre-Louis is at SLB. Kirksey and Pierre-Louis give the Texans an upgrade in speed at their positions. Cunningham is now left with less responsibility and will likely, as the WLB, be utilized more in blitzing, which supposedly is one of his strengths. He'll also be in a position to concentrate more, and improve on, on his pass defense responsibilities.
Our defensive backfield is the one, potentially, serious weak link in our defense. Justin Reid at FS is solid; with Eric Murrey and Lonnie Johnson holding down the SS position.
It's CB where the Texans are questionable. Terrance Mitchell will be on the right side and Desmond King on the left. King is a speedster and it will be interesting to see how he performs. Mitchell is a veteran, but is slow. Tavierre Thomas, Lonnie Johnson, Tremon Smith and Vernon Hargreaves all figure into the nickle and dime packages.
The success of our defense will depend on our coaching and the ability of our front four, and our blitzing, to put pressure on the QB. If opposing QB's have the time, they will take advantage of our weak backfield.
Our return game is going to be a strength, giving us field position. Andre Roberts is our return specialist with Desmond King backing him up.
Punter Cameron Johnston is a boomer and will be putting opposing teams' starting position deep on their end of the field.
We've lost our placekicker, Ka'imi Fairbairn, to IR for a few weeks. His replacement, Joey Slye, seems to have a strong leg but may be a bit inconsistent. We'll see.
With the exception of our CB's, I feel real good about this lineup. By this I don't mean we'll contend for a playoff spot. But... Jacksonville (twice), Carolina, New England, Arizona, Miami, New York Jets, Seattle. These are all teams we may, and can be, competitive against. I also think we have a chance of splitting with Indy, depending on their QB situation. This is nine potential wins.
So...my glass of kool-aid is going to predict 6 - 8 wins.
On offense we still don't have a proven star except for Tunsil at LT. But by moving Howard into the LG spot, and with the replacement of Nick Martin at OC with Justin Britt, the Texans are going to have a potent left side.
On the right side, Marcus Cannon will give us a veteran starter who should be an upgrade. By all accounts Max Scharping has improved his play from last season. Charlie Heck had a strong camp and, once he returns to active play, Lane Tayor could prove to be valuable veteran depth at RG.
At TE we are well set with Jordan Akins as an all purpose receiver and Pharaoh Brown as a blocker.
Some may disagree, but I think our receivers are a tight veteran group with Brandon Cooks, Chris Conley out wide and Anthony Miller in the slot. Backing them up we have rookie Nico Collins and veteran Danny Amendola.
Don't know quite how the running backs will shake out, but to start the season, I like Mark Ingram and Philip Lindsay sharing the load, with David Johnson in there somewhere. When we need one yard, David Burkhead may be getting the call. And then we have Scottie Phillips, our wild card. If he continues to run like he did during camp, he may be number one by the end of the season.
And that leaves QB. Tyrod Taylor did not perform up to my expectations during the limited snaps he had at camp. From what I heard on 610, this may have been because of the plain vanilla play calling by the coaches. But what I saw was a "noodle" arm. We have the receivers. Taylor is going to have to step it up and deliver a catchable ball to them.
It seems we may be a run heavy offense, but if Taylor can't pass effectively, our run game will be stopped.
Defensively. Our front four will be played on a rotational scheme, to keep everyone fresh and to wear down the opposing OL. Charles Omenihu, I'm calling it, will be a standout with double digit sacks, playing both outside and inside. When Omenihu moves inside, we have Whitney Mercilus on the outside, but he's another player who has missed practice time due to injury issues.
I was relying on Maliek Collins to be an anchor in the middle at LDT, but he's been having injury issues. Ross Blacklock backs him up. Vincent Taylor and rookie Roy Lopez are on the opposite side at RDT. We also have DeMarcus Walker.
I was counting on Jonathan Greenard to have a strong presence at RDE, but he's another player with lingering injury issues. Jordan Jenkins will apparently be the starter.
In spite of the several issues with injury, this positional group is deep and strong and should generate good pressure on opposing QB's. We should also be improved in run defense.
We'll have to wait and see how our linebackers are played, but we can expect more blitzing than in the past. Zach Cunningham will be at WLB, with Christian Kirksey moving into the MLB position as our defensive play caller. Kevin Pierre-Louis is at SLB. Kirksey and Pierre-Louis give the Texans an upgrade in speed at their positions. Cunningham is now left with less responsibility and will likely, as the WLB, be utilized more in blitzing, which supposedly is one of his strengths. He'll also be in a position to concentrate more, and improve on, on his pass defense responsibilities.
Our defensive backfield is the one, potentially, serious weak link in our defense. Justin Reid at FS is solid; with Eric Murrey and Lonnie Johnson holding down the SS position.
It's CB where the Texans are questionable. Terrance Mitchell will be on the right side and Desmond King on the left. King is a speedster and it will be interesting to see how he performs. Mitchell is a veteran, but is slow. Tavierre Thomas, Lonnie Johnson, Tremon Smith and Vernon Hargreaves all figure into the nickle and dime packages.
The success of our defense will depend on our coaching and the ability of our front four, and our blitzing, to put pressure on the QB. If opposing QB's have the time, they will take advantage of our weak backfield.
Our return game is going to be a strength, giving us field position. Andre Roberts is our return specialist with Desmond King backing him up.
Punter Cameron Johnston is a boomer and will be putting opposing teams' starting position deep on their end of the field.
We've lost our placekicker, Ka'imi Fairbairn, to IR for a few weeks. His replacement, Joey Slye, seems to have a strong leg but may be a bit inconsistent. We'll see.
With the exception of our CB's, I feel real good about this lineup. By this I don't mean we'll contend for a playoff spot. But... Jacksonville (twice), Carolina, New England, Arizona, Miami, New York Jets, Seattle. These are all teams we may, and can be, competitive against. I also think we have a chance of splitting with Indy, depending on their QB situation. This is nine potential wins.
So...my glass of kool-aid is going to predict 6 - 8 wins.
austins23
Hall of Fame
Not this kid. He sucks
He's got talent, but he makes 2-3 terrible decisions a game and the bad thing is he's not improving.
austins23
Hall of Fame
I watched a show a couple years back that followed him through his senior year of high school. He came off as entitled and arrogant. All about himself, not the team. I just don’t think he’s gonna be all that. Should be better choices than him. Give me a stud CB instead of this kid.
Not necessarily. The schedule could get tougher (2 wins vs JAX not a given). Injuries. Bad breaks in close games. The Texans could be improved and still have the same record.
Agreed
Depending on circumstances, it wouldn't bother me at all if they ended up with the same record.
Hottoddie
Veteran
Missed it by one victory. But, we have a winner. Now, can you predict the winning lottery numbers for the Power Ball drawing? :-)
I can. My next post will be from Maui. Aloha!
badboy
Hall of Fame
I can see a duplication in 2023 season with Texans having one of the top three picks. Not necessarily having 4 wins.
Notice that I said "should".
Which means "ordinarily", "on the average".
Other teams could have bad breaks, too.
There's no way for us to predict all those things.
I was saying that the Texans had to play last year with the Watson situation, Tyrod Taylor injured and Mills coming in, a lame duck HC and OC.
They have none of those things to set them back at the moment.
(They could easily add a veteran QB if they wanted to.)
Their chance to win more games than last year should be much improved especially since they have more draft picks and more cap space.