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Oher forgoes final season for NFL Draft

Good for him. He should be somebody the Texans would consider.

if you havent read the book Blind Side, you need too. It talks about what all Oher has been through. One of my favorite books.
 
I think we are definitely going to take a LT in the first round now. Oher could be our pick too because of his size and athleticism.
 
This year is the year to finally get a LT for the future. Cut Ron Dayne we do'nt need him to screw up another young LT's leg-knee etc.
 
Wow this is really a HUGE surprise. There goes Houston Nutt's first season as the Ole Miss head coach. An already shaky OL and you lose the best LT in the SEC...there's a bunch of young talent there so he should build them up into a contender within a few years.

The deadline is today for declaring for the NFL Draft so there should be a 'trustworthy' site that lists all of them...

This is huge for us. He's extremely athletic and will easily be able to play LT or G for us...he would give Kubiak and Gibbs some options. He's a franchise LT and we need him at 18.

It depends on the teams in front of us. If the draft based on his potential he'll be gone top 10. He's not as polished as you'd like so he could slip to us. This is very good for the Texans.
 
So where does he go? With teams like St. Louis, Oakland, Atlanta, Kansas City, Arizona, Baltimore, Detroit...and on and on... does he even really have a shot of falling all the way to us?

I'm starting to think this could be a pipe dream and in the next few months he keeps climbing up the ladder and when it's all said and done- it'd be like hoping Adrian Peterson fell to our spot.
 
Ole Miss Texan said:
The deadline is today for declaring for the NFL Draft so there should be a 'trustworthy' site that lists all of them...
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On the official boards, Texian posted this link, which has been very reliable so far, and seems to be kept up to date:
http://www.collegefootballtalk.com/earlyentries.htm

I'm surprised - there's about 1 1/2 rounds worth of Juniors declaring early. Maybe this is usual, but for some reason I thought it was usually "just a few" juniors coming out early.
 
Ole Miss Texan said:
So where does he go? With teams like St. Louis, Oakland, Atlanta, Kansas City, Arizona, Baltimore, Detroit...and on and on... does he even really have a shot of falling all the way to us?

I'm starting to think this could be a pipe dream and in the next few months he keeps climbing up the ladder and when it's all said and done- it'd be like hoping Adrian Peterson fell to our spot.
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I'm assuming AZ is going long term with Leinart and Brown at at RT there. Leinart is a lefty. Detroit traded fora T...my money is on WR again for Millen.

Baltimore went after a T in the Supplemental draft and got a steal for a 4th.

KC.....has so many holes pick one to fill excpet LJ.Also didn't they sign McIntosh away from Miami and he got injured?

Isn't Pace coming back for St. Louis?

Atl might go LT. I think more likely they'll need to go for a QB this year though.

Oakland might as well but istill think AL is traumantized from taking a LT early too.

Either way there will be legit LT talent in the first for us at our slot i beleive. I know for sure as the draft nears and people start evaulating the talent they have on their respective lines we'll get a better idea of what teams will be looking for. Looks like a deep draft as well unlike last year and we could once again see some major talen slip. That other second hurts .
 
Well if Oher isn't available, then the tackle who he jumped over will be. We are going to get a franchise LT if we want one.
 
I think we all need to keep in mind the history of Alex Gibbs.

Do not be surprised if we go another direction then LT in the first round.
 
keyser said:
I'm surprised - there's about 1 1/2 rounds worth of Juniors declaring early. Maybe this is usual, but for some reason I thought it was usually "just a few" juniors coming out early.
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It's normally in the 30's, but this year it looks like it's easily in the 40's depending on who else declared. It seems like more and more players are content getting early to mid round grades and would rather get to the NFL sooner.
 
Hoth-Boy said:
I think we all need to keep in mind the history of Alex Gibbs.

Do not be surprised if we go another direction then LT in the first round.
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That's true, but Alex Gibbs is going to be here for 1 or 2 years. I'm sure he will have an input in the decision, but the team has to think about long term success.
 
tulexan said:
That's true, but Alex Gibbs is going to be here for 1 or 2 years. I'm sure he will have an input in the decision, but the team has to think about long term success.
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But Kubiak is not, and we all know that Kubiak wants a running game similar to the one he had at Denver.

I'm not saying that it is impossible that we draft an LT in the first, I just think that a tap of the brakes might be in order.
 
steelbtexan said:
This year is the year to finally get a LT for the future. Cut Ron Dayne we do'nt need him to screw up another young LT's leg-knee etc.
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Cut our leading rusher who had his biggest year? Nah, he will be here but may not make team. Do Oher and Otah fit the ZBS?
 
badboy said:
Cut our leading rusher who had his biggest year? Nah, he will be here but may not make team. Do Oher and Otah fit the ZBS?
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In the past, I've been a proponent of Otah, but I have to say I don't think he fits into the ZBS (though I think he'd be fine in the offense the Texans have run, which has not been a ZBS). He's very big, and I think fairly slow (though I think he is supposed to have good footwork).
 
this is going to be a tough one for me to evaluate having never watched ole'miss & Oher play. the Senior bowl has been my favorite outlet of info to catch up on players I may have missed during the season but thats only for the Seniors. the bowl game invitations can be ammended I suppose but this year more than any other the combine will be critical to catch a glimpse of a player like Oher. from everything thats been written & said he interests me very much & I'm sure the Texans take a hard look :)
 
Some project Oher to play Guard at the next level, but I think he'll make a great Left Tackle. While he's a really big guy at 325lbs he doesn't look fat at all, he's a solid guy. He's quick and has good feet and think he would be a good fit in the ZBS. I am interested to see how his arm length measures out and how he does in the 3-cone drill.
 
Hoth-Boy said:
I think we all need to keep in mind the history of Alex Gibbs.

Do not be surprised if we go another direction then LT in the first round.
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I think it's also that they had something better in place on the oline when Gibbs and Co got there as opposed to here. Even ATL had something better to work with.

I'm more thinking it's the possibility of the BPA is a Chip LT then they'll pull the trigger especially if he fits what they're looking for. I'm also wondering about some of the current guys on roster like Butler and Frye are projected to do. Seemed like as the year pressed on we looked more like at least getting guys off waivers that look more to a ZBS. I think it was a forgone conclussion one way or another Sherman was probably on his way out. At least we'll have 3 people working o nhe same page for the offense. Defense iswhat worries me...and I'm not talking much as the talent...Or Jethro...or Bush.....
 
Things seemed to fall just right this year. 8-8 and still will get a solid first round pick and maybe more if a trade down occurs. Also have enough money to go after free agents that can plug holes. RB, CB and LT can be addressed if that's what team wants.
 
beerlover said:
http://www.clarionledger.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080114/SPORTS030103/80114035

I think the Texans could trade down & still get him if he's the target :)
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Sounds like he got a 1st/2nd round grade but then again many players are given a 2nd round grade (vernon gholston for example) that more than likely won't last that long.

I'll be reall interested to see how the Texans end up grading out their prospects come draft day when there should be several very talented players available at our pick at key areas of our needs LT, CB, RB....who wins out? free agency will have SOME to say about it though.

I always love a good trade down to add picks, but if there's a LT sitting there that they think is a perfect fit for our team...I think we HAVE to pull the trigger and not get cute. I'm not saying 'reach' because it's a need by any means but if we trade down we might lose out on the likes of a Jamaal Brown -pro bowl LT we missed out on by a couple spots b/c we traded down.

I could care less who the Texans of rated the highest of the LT's (actually it'd be really interesting) but if he's there - Clady, Oher, Otah, Williams, Collins, etc. I say just go ahead and take him and be done with it. Him being whoever the like.
 
Ole Miss Texan said:
Some project Oher to play Guard at the next level, but I think he'll make a great Left Tackle. While he's a really big guy at 325lbs he doesn't look fat at all, he's a solid guy. He's quick and has good feet and think he would be a good fit in the ZBS. I am interested to see how his arm length measures out and how he does in the 3-cone drill.
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He is very Spencer like, but a better athlete....he is going to be a good pro. This guy had a rough childhood and failed a couple of grades early on in life due to his family situation but he is a prototype LT.
 
Ole Miss Texan said:
Wow this is really a HUGE surprise. There goes Houston Nutt's first season as the Ole Miss head coach. An already shaky OL and you lose the best LT in the SEC...there's a bunch of young talent there so he should build them up into a contender within a few years.

The deadline is today for declaring for the NFL Draft so there should be a 'trustworthy' site that lists all of them...

This is huge for us. He's extremely athletic and will easily be able to play LT or G for us...he would give Kubiak and Gibbs some options. He's a franchise LT and we need him at 18.

It depends on the teams in front of us. If the draft based on his potential he'll be gone top 10. He's not as polished as you'd like so he could slip to us. This is very good for the Texans.
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I truly am sorry Old Miss.

Yes up there . Micheal Oher is one of three players I'd spend the eighteen on and not move down.

http://www.gbnreport.com/index.htm

(12:01 AM): Ole Miss OT enters draft…. Mississippi junior OT Michael Oher has become the latest underclassmen to announce that he will skip his senior season and enter the 2008 draft. The 6-5, 325-pound Oher is expected to be a first-round pick this year. Meanwhile, several other juniors including DE Tyson Jackson and LB Darryl Beckwith of LSU and Rutgers safety Courtney Greene have said they will be returning to school for their senior seasons.
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This guy may fall to the top of the 2nd round when they go to the combines and work out we will see who is what it's to early to tell.
 
PHAROAH said:
This guy may fall to the top of the 2nd round when they go to the combines and work out we will see who is what it's to early to tell.
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I would avoid trading down too far. as a matter of fact the focus should be to stay in the first rd. for example, here is a realistic trade down scenero for ya big guy-

Texans trade with Dallas (who have two 1st rd. picks) exchange #18 for #29 & pick up Dallas 2nd rd. pick. don't know for sure the rotation on the picks after the 1st rd. but if needed could also swap 3rd picks to even out the deal.

Dallas picks

#18 (900) Reggie Smith, CB
#22 (not included in this trade) Felix Jones, RB
#82 (180) Craig Steltz, DB
= 1080

Texans picks

#29 (640) Michael Oher, LT
#69 (292) James Davis, RB
#93 (128) Trae Williams, CB
= 1060

I could throw some picks in there for ya too if you like but don't mean $#!+ @ this point but I do feel they would do this because of a need to address CB & there are not that many really good ones so if a Reggie Smith or Mike Jenkins is sitting there #18 it would be tempting (maybe for both teams) they could be assured to also address RB with #22 pick maybe Felix Jones or Jonathan Stewart.

On the other hand the Texans can address their tackle situation with the bpa & get a 2nd rd. pick in return to use on one the better RB prospects left on the 1st day of the draft. IMO
 
Oher is now my candidate for our #1 pick. Get him o'her! (get it..like "over here" hyuck hyuck hyuck hyuck)
 
PHAROAH said:
This guy may fall to the top of the 2nd round when they go to the combines and work out we will see who is what it's to early to tell.
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Wouldnt bet on it. From all accounts ive heard, this guy is a physical freak for his size.
 
One thing I've been thinking about is really Oher's personality. Eli Manning has been a pretty quiet football player and doesn't show much emotion when playing, he's been criticized for this and is starting to develop more into that vocal leader the Giants need from their QB.

Oher is a quiet and humble guy and I was wondering about that on the football field. It's harder for me to notice an offensive lineman being really aggressive against a DE/DT. I think Oher is a guy that can have a mean streak...not in a bad way at all...but from what I hear Gibbs likes guys he can get into and get mad and have them play mad. I can really see Oher as a player like this. I'm not saying he takes plays off or plays lazy sometimes, but you can tell when he gets upset and dominates the defensive player...much like when mario has that flash of pure physicality and your like 'wow'.

Only getting to see our a couple times this season, I saw a lot of just normal play from a LT, definitely some mistakes where his head wasn't in the game, and times where your just thinking- he's a brick wall and nothing can get by him. I watched him very closely during the Ole Miss/LSU game at the end of teh season and he looked very very good. There were more instances than I thought there would be when Glenn Dorsey and him were matched up, and Dorsey pretty much got dominated (although Dorsey was not 100% healthy). The two even got into it with each other- you could tell the emotions were high. I really like seeing this from Oher and think that kind of fire would make him play better.

This is more of a ramble but was just thinking about Gibbs and his o-linemen, and even Mario comparisons. Mario has been criticized for needing people to get him angry- then once he's angry he's unstoppable. I could see Gibbs getting into Oher and giving him the good kind of motivation and the fierceness to play well at the next level.
 
I watched Oher too breifly to make any fair assesment other than he does have the size & physical game to hold up @ the next level. you may be right on the mental aspect, I know thats something I found engaging last year with Levi Brown regardless of how some people graded him out because he was a gamer & could elevate his play. it would be nice if Oher has a similar make-up & the Texans get him.
 
I remember in Blind Side, there was a part where some DL was talking sh!t to him and Oher "blocked" him off the field and almost out of the stadium. He definitely has a mean streak if you push his buttons
 
Well he isn't in Joe Thomas' league yet in the fact that he isn't perfect. He has the feet and he flashes some real power. I think he keeps the QBs jersey perfect in 80% of the games. He sounds like a Gibbs guy to me, except in the fact that he'll go in the first round. I've seen several mocks have him going much higher. I think we'll all fall in love with the guy at the combine work outs. He'll block anything lined up with speed they put in front of him.
 
threetoedpete said:
Well he isn't in Joe Thomas' league yet in the fact that he isn't perfect. He has the feet and he flashes some real power. I think he keeps the QBs jersey perfect in 80% of the games. He sounds like a Gibbs guy to me, except in the fact that he'll go in the first round. I've seen several mocks have him going much higher. I think we'll all fall in love with the guy at the combine work outs. He'll block anything lined up with speed they put in front of him.
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Mario WIlliams against Oher in practice every day should help both players.
 
badboy said:
Mario WIlliams against Oher in practice every day should help both players.
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I would enjoy watching practices as much as the games. /no-sarcasm at all


Interesting rumblings going on that Oher may retract his name from the nfl draft. Apparently, juniors have up to 4 days where they are able to take their name out of the pot. Link to the memphis paper article is no longer good...at this point it's very much a rumor. Another rumor is he may be enrolling in classes next year. This could mean anything though- you can take correspondence classes while in another state. Additionally it could be like Jacoby Jones who has gone back to lane to finish his degree now that it's the offseason.

To early to tell but we'll most definitly know in the next few days.
 
Ole Miss Texan said:
I would enjoy watching practices as much as the games. /no-sarcasm at all


Interesting rumblings going on that Oher may retract his name from the nfl draft. Apparently, juniors have up to 4 days where they are able to take their name out of the pot. Link to the memphis paper article is no longer good...at this point it's very much a rumor. Another rumor is he may be enrolling in classes next year. This could mean anything though- you can take correspondence classes while in another state. Additionally it could be like Jacoby Jones who has gone back to lane to finish his degree now that it's the offseason.

To early to tell but we'll most definitly know in the next few days.
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I beleive its three days & only if they have not signed with an agent.
 
Welp...there goes that. Can't really blame him at all. I think this was a wise decision for him long term. So long as he doesn't get injured...ole miss should be strong next year (best since he's been in school), he will develop more and not be as raw..get more polished, be the front runner to be the best offensive lineman, be the front runner to win the Outland Trophy, and be a top 10 lock/ probably top 5, and maybe top 3 pick. He will end up making more money, too. : ) darn- there goes any chance he becomes a Houston Texan.
 
Ole Miss Texan said:
Welp...there goes that. Can't really blame him at all. I think this was a wise decision for him long term. So long as he doesn't get injured...ole miss should be strong next year (best since he's been in school), he will develop more and not be as raw..get more polished, be the front runner to be the best offensive lineman, be the front runner to win the Outland Trophy, and be a top 10 lock/ probably top 5, and maybe top 3 pick. He will end up making more money, too. : ) darn- there goes any chance he becomes a Houston Texan.
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Being signed at #18 by Texans and working with Gibbs would have made him a 15 year LT and he would have definitely made up the difference he would have made as a top 10 draft pick next year. He gets ZERO income in 2008/09 and 50/50 he sits on bemnch his first year there. I think he should have come out.
 
badboy said:
Being signed at #18 by Texans and working with Gibbs would have made him a 15 year LT and he would have definitely made up the difference he would have made as a top 10 draft pick next year. He gets ZERO income in 2008/09 and 50/50 he sits on bemnch his first year there. I think he should have come out.
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Oher has a lot of money already so it's not like he is struggling to survive or has a family to take care of. If he has a good year next season and a strong combine/pro day, he is going to probably be a top five pick and get $20+ million guaranteed compared to around $9 million this year. Would you wait one year to receive $11 million?
 
badboy said:
Being signed at #18 by Texans and working with Gibbs would have made him a 15 year LT and he would have definitely made up the difference he would have made as a top 10 draft pick next year. He gets ZERO income in 2008/09 and 50/50 he sits on bemnch his first year there. I think he should have come out.
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Well he did what he saw as best for him. I think there is a very low order of probablity that we have shot at him now. We'd have to lose eleven or twelve games to be in the range.

I do agree though. He would of started for us out of the gate had he come out.
 
tulexan said:
Oher has a lot of money already so it's not like he is struggling to survive or has a family to take care of. If he has a good year next season and a strong combine/pro day, he is going to probably be a top five pick and get $20+ million guaranteed compared to around $9 million this year. Would you wait one year to receive $11 million?
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I totally agree with you, why come into a saturated market when you can finish up school, enjoy life & make millions more :money: the only thing he needs to do is make a phone call to Loyds of London :phone:
 
beerlover said:
I totally agree with you, why come into a saturated market when you can finish up school, enjoy life & make millions more :money: the only thing he needs to do is make a phone call to Loyds of London :phone:
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His adopted parents are pretty smart, I'm sure they made sure to insure him the day he decided to return to Ole Miss.
 
There's another thread on this guy somewhere but I haven't found it.

Anyway, I'm about 2/3rds of the way throught with the "Blind Side: The evolution of the Game" book, which if you don't know is about Michael Oher and it is a great read. I highly recommend it.

:)
 
badboy said:
Being signed at #18 by Texans and working with Gibbs would have made him a 15 year LT and he would have definitely made up the difference he would have made as a top 10 draft pick next year. He gets ZERO income in 2008/09 and 50/50 he sits on bemnch his first year there. I think he should have come out.
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That's assuming there was a 100% chance that he'd be signed by the Texans. Who's to say he wouldn't be drafted before us, or even if he was available at our spot- would Kubiak/Gibbs/Smith take him?? (I'd sure hope so) but you never know if they're wanting to take their chances on a guy in the 3rd and go the Secondary route in the 1st.
 
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