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Offensive PPG

How many PPG do you think the Texans will end up with at the end of the regular season?

  • 30+

  • 27-30

  • 24-27

  • 21-24

  • 18-21


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Corrosion

Idealist
Staff member

Speedy

Yeller Dweller
I think they’ll start out slow because of all the turnover at the skill positions and a limited off-season to work everyone in. And then couple that with some pretty good defenses that are stacked up early on. Baltimore, Pittsburgh, Minnesota, and Tennessee should be pretty good on that side of the ball.

Injuries have to be a serious consideration since a lot of those at the skill positions have that injury prone tag hanging around their necks.

I picked 24-27 because I think that’s where it can be once they get acclimated and can stay healthy, and things look good under Kelly.

Way too many unknowns though. May have been too generous with my pick.
 

Rich Schmidt

Myopicone
It feels like 25+ for two reasons, DW4 maturation and the poor defense will force some shootouts. I am hoping TK calling plays makes a difference but kind of waiting for proof before I say they will step up considerably
 

Toro Bravo

Waterboy
I voted 24-27. IMO, our offense will be potent as long as we stay relatively healthy. It's the defense that concerns me.
 

banned1976

All Pro
Last year the Texans ppg average was 23.6. I don't think this years offense will be better, so...

I voted 21-24. Already it seems that the receiving corps is going to have problems staying on the field. I expect Cooks to start against KC but I'm not confident he'll finish the game. I don't think David Johnson is an upgrade over Hyde as a runner.
 

mws

Waterboy
Well, if we can go by past performance the Texans should score at least 31 points tonight.

Games with Watson as QB against the Chiefs

2017: Texans 34 Chiefs 42
2019: Texans 31 Chiefs 24
2019 Playoff: Texans 31 Chiefs 51
 

dream_team

Hall of Fame
I think that our teams offense will take at least 4 to 6 weeks to really start finding itself. Once they do I can foresee the offense scoring some 30+ scores.
I partially agree with this. Lots of new pieces at the skill positions.

My only problem is we're seeing some of the same problems we've seen during the BOB era. Poor OL play, no sense of urgency when playing from behind.
 
They've been gelling since O'Brien got here, and have to start over every year
I make no excuses for BO'b. The offense should be better than it is. In seasons past we could afford to start slowly on offense, but with the defense being the worst in the league, and for that matter the worst in the league in many years, we can't afford the time it will take them to jell.

Even when the offense was at it's best, when DeAndre Hopkins was catching most of the passes, our offense has never been run properly. The trades BO'b made will show how incompetent BO'b is.

As far as the O-line goes, all I heard was how the continuity of the guys would benefit them. You would not know that based on how they played beyond that one TD drive early in the game last night .

We are up against the wall with no time to get things in order as far as the team goes. I could see us winning only 4 games all season. Two of those wins could come against the lowly Jaguars, and the other teams we may beat are the Browns and Bengals.

I for sure can see the team starting 1-6 or even 0-7.

If we get to the half way point with at least 3 wins I will consider that a successful start.

This season is a wear a Bag over your heads season.
 

banned1976

All Pro
I make no excuses for BO'b. The offense should be better than it is. In seasons past we could afford to start slowly on offense, but with the defense being the worst in the league, and for that matter the worst in the league in many years, we can't afford the time it will take them to jell.

Even when the offense was at it's best, when DeAndre Hopkins was catching most of the passes, our offense has never been run properly. The trades BO'b made will show how incompetent BO'b is.

As far as the O-line goes, all I heard was how the continuity of the guys would benefit them. You would not know that based on how they played beyond that one TD drive early in the game last night .

We are up against the wall with no time to get things in order as far as the team goes. I could see us winning only 4 games all season. Two of those wins could come against the lowly Jaguars, and the other teams we may beat are the Browns and Bengals.

I for sure can see the team starting 1-6 or even 0-7.

If we get to the half way point with at least 3 wins I will consider that a successful start.

This season is a wear a Bag over your heads season.
Just think, the real pain begins next season.
 

Corrosion

Idealist
Staff member
It's shocking how they barely run behind the highest paid LT in the NFL.

Sad to say but I wouldn't run behind him either .... He's just average as a run blocker.

This is part of the reason I hate his contract extension - they paid for a complete superstar player and are getting half that.

I'd be running behind Howard who's top 5 in run block win percentage.
 

Corrosion

Idealist
Staff member
The Texans scored 30 pts 5 times in 6 games of Watson rookie year. They have scored 30 twice since then.
Part of it is teams / DC's have figured Watson out.

He's going to hold the ball a long time - we all know this - so do those DC's and they plan accordingly.
Eventually your pass rush is going to get to him , in the mean time keep him between the tackles , cover the downfield routes and compress the pocket .... If he gets outside , you are in trouble. Limit that and the odds they give the ball up are high.

This style of play just isn't conducive to sustaining drives which leads to scoring points ...
 

76Texan

Hall of Fame
Part of it is teams / DC's have figured Watson out.

He's going to hold the ball a long time - we all know this - so do those DC's and they plan accordingly.
Eventually your pass rush is going to get to him , in the mean time keep him between the tackles , cover the downfield routes and compress the pocket .... If he gets outside , you are in trouble. Limit that and the odds they give the ball up are high.

This style of play just isn't conducive to sustaining drives which leads to scoring points ...
The play calls and scheme designs of OBrien is not conducive to sustaining drives.

You cannot get into third and long and expect to sustain a drive.
 

NastyNate

I go kerplunk
Part of it is teams / DC's have figured Watson out.

He's going to hold the ball a long time - we all know this - so do those DC's and they plan accordingly.
Eventually your pass rush is going to get to him , in the mean time keep him between the tackles , cover the downfield routes and compress the pocket .... If he gets outside , you are in trouble. Limit that and the odds they give the ball up are high.

This style of play just isn't conducive to sustaining drives which leads to scoring points ...
It's 100% the result of a poor offensive system.
 
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Earl34

Veteran
Part of it is teams / DC's have figured Watson out.

He's going to hold the ball a long time - we all know this - so do those DC's and they plan accordingly.
Eventually your pass rush is going to get to him , in the mean time keep him between the tackles , cover the downfield routes and compress the pocket .... If he gets outside , you are in trouble. Limit that and the odds they give the ball up are high.

This style of play just isn't conducive to sustaining drives which leads to scoring points ...
So, as an OC, what do you do to counter this? Do you go to a quick passing game? Reduce some of the slower developing plays? Reduce so many deep routes? Call more three step drops to get him in rhythm early in games? Call fewer option routes? Similar to KC, use more plays from their QBs college days? What adjustments have you seen by the QB, OC and HC to counter what the defenses are doing? If you can see what the defenses are doing. I'm sure the offensive staff can see it too and if Watson is not doing as instructed, they should be in his ear and face when he comes off the field.

Early in his career, Roethlisberger had a reputation for holding the ball and taking a beating. Roethlisberger and many Steelers' fans were upset that Tomlin fired Bruce Arians as his OC and even though Todd Haley has personality issues, he was finally able to convince Ben about changing his playing style to prolong his career and take what the defense is giving up. You know the rest of the story.

Here is Ben complaining about throwing shorter, quicker passes.
https://www.nfl.com/news/ben-roethlisberger-steelers-offense-dink-and-dunk-0ap1000000082583
 
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mws

Waterboy
I'm seeing that they scored 30+ 4x in 2018 and 2x in 2019
Exactly. Here are the games that I see where the Texans scored 30+ with Watson as QB.

2017 week 03: Texans 33 - Patriots 36
2017 week 04: Texans 57 - Titans 14
2017 week 05: Texans 34 - Chiefs 42
2017 week 06: Texans 33 - Browns 17
2017 week 08: Texans 38 - Seahawks 41
2018 week 04: Texans 37 - Colts 34
2018 week 08: Texans 42 - Dolphins 23
2018 week 12: Texans 34 - Titans 17
2018 week 16: Texans 30 - Eagles 32
2019 week 05: Texans 53 - Falcons 32
2019 week 06: Texans 31 - Chiefs 24
 

76Texan

Hall of Fame
So, as an OC, what do you do to counter this? Do you go to a quick passing game? Reduce some of the slower developing plays? Reduce so many deep routes? Call more three step drops to get him in rhythm early in games? Call fewer option routes? Similar to KC, use more plays from their QBs college days? What adjustments have you seen by the QB, OC and HC to counter what the defenses are doing? If you can see what the defenses are doing. I'm sure the offensive staff can see it too and if Watson is not doing as instructed, they should be in his ear and face when he comes off the field.

Early in his career, Roethlisberger had a reputation for holding the ball and taking a beating. Roethlisberger and many Steelers' fans were upset that Tomlin fired Bruce Arians as his OC and even though Todd Haley has personality issues, he was finally able to convince Ben about changing his playing style to prolong his career and take what the defense is giving up. You know the rest of the story.

Here is Ben complaining about throwing shorter, quicker passes.
https://www.nfl.com/news/ben-roethlisberger-steelers-offense-dink-and-dunk-0ap1000000082583
Both Big Ben and Andrew Luck are notorious for holding onto the ball.
 

thunderkyss

Just win baby!!!
Staff member
Contributor's Club
Both Big Ben and Andrew Luck are notorious for holding onto the ball.
Andrew Luck is another good example of a guy who didn't produce as well as expected. & that dude was football smart.

In Luck's case, I thought his coaches were all too happy to let him continue to play like it was rugby & not ask him too develop his game.

Watson... I'm not sold that the Texans have figured out how to help him mature as a QB. I've seen nothing to suggest as much. We can clearly see he isn't. But can't see what they're doing to correct it. & it might be too early to see.

I am impressed that BO'b didn't have a Denny's menu last week either. Hopefully Tim Kelly is the guy to get the most out of Watson.
 


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