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Number19

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Because, according to Britt, and so many others, along with Culley, Casserio, and Front Office .... Easterby holds dominion over the players .... and I don't think Easterby has been biopsied yet. Answer to next question .... No, I have no proof, but, where there is so much smoke, there is more than a remote chance that Easterby, and his Culture, are nefarious by nature ! I don't think it's coincidence, that so many young athletes, who love to play sports and be happy, are distrustful of the secretive little man behind the curtain .... the one we're not supposed to pay attention to !
OK, you say you have no proof.

But..."Easterby holds dominion over the players"? Come on now. Dominion means control. In what way does he exert control over the players? And if it's work related, why shouldn't an employer have control over the workplace?

Easterby is "nefarious by nature"? Nefarious means wicked or criminal. Just how are conditions in the locker room wicked? How is Easterby wicked?

The players just shouldn't be paying attention to "the secretive little man behind the curtain".

So what has been said of these nefarious deeds. He's posted these tacky bromides on the locker room walls and placed cards with tacky bromides on their stools?

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thunderkyss

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So if I were looking for the next up & coming OC, is there anyone other than Kafka?
 

banned1976

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They probably promote Pep to that position and fire Kelly.
Pep seems like the obvious answer here.
Hamilton is the current Texans passing game coordinator and it hasn't looked very good this year. Texans DVOA passing offense is 28th in the league. Everything stinks about their offense. Nobody on the staff deserves a promotion.

The Texans had one alluring player on offense that could have brought in a good staff and they blew their chance to bring any of those guys over before that player imploded. Good luck attracting anyone decent next offseason.

Until they are able to get a significant (more than one or two drafts) influx of good, young players the Texans will probably be turning over the coaching staff more than once. That's the reality of the situation...at least that's how it looks to me.
 
So the McNairs will be spending lots of money on former, current and future staffs...I'm going to go play Tecmo Bowl, NFL Blitz and Madden for the rest of the year while watching the All 22 film to prepare my resume.
 

badboy

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True. But that offense is LOADED with talent, everywhere! The Texans have JUCO level talent on O.

everyone drops a turd every year. Example, yesterday was a weird day.
Bills score 6 and lose to the Jags
Browns curb stomp the Bengals
Titans kill the Rams
The Chiefs still look like the anti Chiefs on O
Giants beat the Raiders
Pats beat a mud hole in the Panthers

I think the Cowboys were slurping up the hype all the media has been throwing on them. They will be better, just like the Rams will be.
Those type of games irritate me more than the type the Texans played yesterday
 

thunderkyss

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Is Josh McCown someone we should consider for OC? A lot of folks believe he would make a great coach. This could season him up. We suck anyway, take a high risk high reward angle
He's never been a coach so... can he install/ teach an offense? I'm sure, at least I hope EP is not ever mentioned in a Texans locker room again.

But I'm interested
 

banned1976

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So the McNairs will be spending lots of money on former, current and future staffs...I'm going to go play Tecmo Bowl, NFL Blitz and Madden for the rest of the year while watching the All 22 film to prepare my resume.
Or, the McNair’s of today will be the McNair’s of the past and hang on to Culley for way, way, way too long. Culley could be calling timeouts to save a yard or or to call a timeout and punt well into his 70’s. He is 65 after all and his contract term is five years.
 

beerlover

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Kelly is in a no win situation. Remember he was kept on per Deshaun request as a condition to return early in the process.

To think things would change, with this roster, just by replacing him foolish. I’ll bet if he were Alabama OC he would do a better job than the OC they have now.
 

Double Barrel

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Texans have a non football guy making football decisions
Out of curiosity, I started checking out the backgrounds of front office executives for other football teams, most notably the good teams.

I'm finding that most executives have some background in scouting, but also financial management and other aspects of football operations and even playing and coaching.

I have yet to find one (except Jack) that promotes "culture" as his primary experience and agenda and whose resume is only devoted to so-called "character development". Which is interesting considering he got caught red handed by lying on his resume.

The Texans are either on the cutting edge of player management by hiring a glorified character coach as VP, or, it's just another in a long list of colossally stupid decisions by an owner that is in over his head and doesn't know what he's doing. I'll let time tell us which it will be.
 

beerlover

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I don't need any time. Cal is a ******* idiot. :lol:
He’s certainly not a football genius but that’s not a requirement to own an NFL team. Caserio is all business which suggests the business side is Cal’s strong suit. Going to be really hard for him to trust a football mind after O’Brian because that’s something he doesn’t understand so he swung in the opposite direction.
 

TexansBull

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I have yet to find one (except Jack) that promotes "culture" as his primary experience and agenda and whose resume is only devoted to so-called "character development". Which is interesting considering he got caught red handed by lying on his resume.

The Texans are either on the cutting edge of player management by hiring a glorified character coach as VP, or, it's just another in a long list of colossally stupid decisions by an owner that is in over his head and doesn't know what he's doing. I'll let time tell us which it will be.
I have read from posters here, and it has been reported that Easterby had little say in football matters.

I don’t know how factual that is, but take it for what it’s worth.

It is hard to prove one way or another that Easterby does or doesn’t have football say. With Caserio in his seat that is now warm I would assume that Jack has no say.

My conspiracy theory is that Easterby knows too much of went on and is a liability if he were to be fired or let go in any way. It would jeopardize the Texans FO and the Watson trade. Palcic and Roots are quiet now because it possibly incriminates them to some degree.

So Cal keeps him on the payroll to keep him quiet.
 

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I have read from posters here, and it has been reported that Easterby had little say in football matters.

I don’t know how factual that is, but take it for what it’s worth.

It is hard to prove one way or another that Easterby does or doesn’t have football say. With Caserio in his seat that is now warm I would assume that Jack has no say.

My conspiracy theory is that Easterby knows too much of went on and is a liability if he were to be fired or let go in any way. It would jeopardize the Texans FO and the Watson trade. Palcic and Roots are quiet now because it possibly incriminates them to some degree.

So Cal keeps him on the payroll to keep him quiet.
My perspective is based on what former players have said about him and his clear lack of qualifications for the position he holds within the franchise.

It is also clear that he is certainly one of the 'filters' that players (and maybe coaches) must pass. To what degree is anyone's guess, but it certainly exists.

Why would he be charged with building so-called "culture" and have no oversight into the players being brought here? It makes no sense to believe that his position has nothing to do with player management when the Texans themselves promote the exact opposite. Culture is specifically talking about players and coaches.

I personally believe it's naive to think he's operating in a vacuum and has absolutely nothing to do with, you know, football operations. I mean, that is HIS TITLE. lol

And perception is reality. Right now, the perception around the league is that the McNairs are terrible owners, the Texans are one of the least desired teams to be on as a free agent, and Easterby is duplicitous by nature and simply cannot be trusted.

And honestly, there is no reason why parts of both of our points cannot be true at the same time (the exception being he has input/no input in players). 31 other NFL teams would not hire Jack as a VP of football operations. There are reasons for that attitude.
 

thunderkyss

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So I used to work in a corporate environment where there was a group of people that focused on culture. They gave talks every now & then. Administered “competitions” facilitated kumbaya meetings.

they did not hire anyone. They did not discipline anyone. They did not consult on who were team players & who were not.

The only thing they reported back to management was which supervisors were cooperating/buying in. & which weren’t.
 

Thorn

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So I used to work in a corporate environment where there was a group of people that focused on culture. They gave talks every now & then. Administered “competitions” facilitated kumbaya meetings.

they did not hire anyone. They did not discipline anyone. They did not consult on who were team players & who were not.

The only thing they reported back to management was which supervisors were cooperating/buying in. & which weren’t.
When I was working IT the only people having to worry about the culture horseshit of the hospital system were the managers and above. As long as you remained a worker bee (no matter how well paid because of your worker bee job title) you were fine. But unless you really bought into their corporate crap, and showed it for a long period of time, you'd never make it into management anyway. Everybody I worked with was very happy with that, because most of us hated that culture stuff and didn't want to play company politics anyway.
 

steelbtexan

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My perspective is based on what former players have said about him and his clear lack of qualifications for the position he holds within the franchise.

It is also clear that he is certainly one of the 'filters' that players (and maybe coaches) must pass. To what degree is anyone's guess, but it certainly exists.

Why would he be charged with building so-called "culture" and have no oversight into the players being brought here? It makes no sense to believe that his position has nothing to do with player management when the Texans themselves promote the exact opposite. Culture is specifically talking about players and coaches.

I personally believe it's naive to think he's operating in a vacuum and has absolutely nothing to do with, you know, football operations. I mean, that is HIS TITLE. lol

And perception is reality. Right now, the perception around the league is that the McNairs are terrible owners, the Texans are one of the least desired teams to be on as a free agent, and Easterby is duplicitous by nature and simply cannot be trusted.

And honestly, there is no reason why parts of both of our points cannot be true at the same time (the exception being he has input/no input in players). 31 other NFL teams would not hire Jack as a VP of football operations. There are reasons for that attitude.
Bottom line is who do you think is making the final calls on personnel.
 

badboy

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So I used to work in a corporate environment where there was a group of people that focused on culture. They gave talks every now & then. Administered “competitions” facilitated kumbaya meetings.

they did not hire anyone. They did not discipline anyone. They did not consult on who were team players & who were not.

The only thing they reported back to management was which supervisors were cooperating/buying in. & which weren’t.
I once worked for a small Corporation owned by one man. He paid $30,000 for a company to come in and identify problem areas in our company. I will never forget when all of us were told in a meeting by the Specialist that we needed to address the elephant in the room and the owner said "I guess that's me." The specialist nodded his head. Guess what? nothing changed LOL! Well the owner's checking account changed.
 

banned1976

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When I was working IT the only people having to worry about the culture horseshit of the hospital system were the managers and above. As long as you remained a worker bee (no matter how well paid because of your worker bee job title) you were fine. But unless you really bought into their corporate crap, and showed it for a long period of time, you'd never make it into management anyway. Everybody I worked with was very happy with that, because most of us hated that culture stuff and didn't want to play company politics anyway.
When I was working at Cirrus Aircraft, as the company grew, people and sometimes entire departments were forced to relocate from time to time. IT was one of those departments. They were moved from a spacious office space on the second floor (there were only two floors) with a huge window overlooking the airport runway to an office under HR that was basically a long hallway with small offices. It had no windows, it was located basically in the middle of the facility, and walking in there was like walking into a cramped seedy bar with the lights on the dimmest setting. They loved it!
 

Texian

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My perspective is based on what former players have said about him and his clear lack of qualifications for the position he holds within the franchise.

It is also clear that he is certainly one of the 'filters' that players (and maybe coaches) must pass. To what degree is anyone's guess, but it certainly exists.

Why would he be charged with building so-called "culture" and have no oversight into the players being brought here? It makes no sense to believe that his position has nothing to do with player management when the Texans themselves promote the exact opposite. Culture is specifically talking about players and coaches.

I personally believe it's naive to think he's operating in a vacuum and has absolutely nothing to do with, you know, football operations. I mean, that is HIS TITLE. lol

And perception is reality. Right now, the perception around the league is that the McNairs are terrible owners, the Texans are one of the least desired teams to be on as a free agent, and Easterby is duplicitous by nature and simply cannot be trusted.

And honestly, there is no reason why parts of both of our points cannot be true at the same time (the exception being he has input/no input in players). 31 other NFL teams would not hire Jack as a VP of football operations. There are reasons for that attitude.
I agree. You're not made the VP of Player Personnel and assigned no responsibilities or have nothing to do. When you take into account player comments, pictures and the type of people being hired and fired, it paints a picture of someone who is overtly involved. My sense is no one gets hired, fired, drafted or signed without the stamp of approval from the culture warrior. Rumor is Easterby was a vital player in helping Cal beat his addiction to alcohol and why Cal has turned his team over to Easterby.
Bottom line is who do you think is making the final calls on personnel.
My sense is no one gets hired, fired, drafted or signed without the stamp of approval from the cultural warrior. Caserio and Culley are both products of Easterby's influence.
 
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steelbtexan

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I agree. You're not made the VP of Player Personnel and have no responsibilities or nothing to do. When you take into account player comments, pictures and the type of people being hired and fired, it paints a picture of someone who is overtly involved. My sense is no one gets hired, fired, drafted or signed without the stamp of approval from the culture warrior. Rumor is Easterby was a vital player in helping Cal beat his addiction to alcohol and why Cal has turned his team over to Easterby.

My sense is no one gets hired, fired, drafted or signed without the stamp of approval from the cultural warrior. Caserio and Culley are both products of Easterby's influence.
We disagree on who's running the on field product decisions.

My thoughts are that Easterby are Easterby has taken over the role Rootes used to have.
 

leebigeztx

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I agree. You're not made the VP of Player Personnel and have no responsibilities or nothing to do. When you take into account player comments, pictures and the type of people being hired and fired, it paints a picture of someone who is overtly involved. My sense is no one gets hired, fired, drafted or signed without the stamp of approval from the culture warrior. Rumor is Easterby was a vital player in helping Cal beat his addiction to alcohol and why Cal has turned his team over to Easterby.

My sense is no one gets hired, fired, drafted or signed without the stamp of approval from the cultural warrior. Caserio and Culley are both products of Easterby's influence.
That part
 

cuppacoffee

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The Texan "Way" and Texan "Worthy" were here long before Easterby / Caserio came aboard.

Steelb brought it to light / exposed it years ago.

Is there such a thing as Easterby Derangement Syndrome? Caserio Derangement Syndrome? :firehair:

Is there a Vax to prevent/cure it? texanstalk mods to to come up with a mandate before it's too late. :D

:coffee:
 

Earl34

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The Texan "Way" and Texan "Worthy" were here long before Easterby / Caserio came aboard.

Steelb brought it to light / exposed it years ago.

Is there such a thing as Easterby Derangement Syndrome? Caserio Derangement Syndrome? :firehair:

Is there a Vax to prevent/cure it? texanstalk mods to to come up with a mandate before it's too late. :D

:coffee:
If you ask Cal, Caserio or Culley what is Easterby's role and responsibilities. They go into this ramble about Jack is very talented in several areas, helps in several ways and is here to serve...blah, blah, blah.

After signing with the Texans, multiple players have credited Caserio, Culley and Easterby for their signings. It's only logical for fans to assume Easterby is involved in personnel. With that said, it appears the vax or cure is for the owner and/or GM to do a better job communicating Easterby's role. Otherwise, it will always lead to speculation about his role in the organization.
 
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TexansBull

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About what?
Easterby could write a tell all book that the Texans looked the other way while there were reports of sexual assault from their franchise QB. Instead of going to the authorities they swept it under the rug. Whether the Texans are OB, the strength and conditioning coach, Palcic, or Roots, or even Cal, it would look bad for the franchise.

Of course, I haven’t heard that anything happened to the Angels reportedly knowing/providing Skaggs with oxycondone.

Once again - this is all fictional conspiracy theory.

Except that part about the Angels.
 

TexansBull

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Why would you think that?

Agree that Jack has no say.

:coffee:
We are through a draft, the trade deadline, and half the season. It’s not like when he just got hired and days later was answering calls about Watson getting traded.

I think I used the word that can be misinterpreted. My bad.

I meant warm as temperature after someone sits in it. Not warm as he could get fired.
 

Double Barrel

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Bottom line is who do you think is making the final calls on personnel.
Ultimately, I think it's Caserio.

But who is influencing his decisions? He can't be everything and everywhere. The Texans still operate their FO like a corporate boardroom where everyone at the table has a voice. And there is no doubt in my mind that a VP of football operations has a seat at that table.

So yeah, "technically" Caserio is in charge. But when you have a non-football executive as part of the vetting process (along with a clearly clueless owner), it makes it tough to truly believe that they have the best evaluation process possible considering the alternative upgrades.

We disagree on who's running the on field product decisions.

My thoughts are that Easterby are Easterby has taken over the role Rootes used to have.
Nope. That would be Greg Grissom that replaced Rootes as the Texans' team president.

The Texans themselves state that Jack "manages all football operations and directs the overall culture of the organization."

So I ask, with all due respect to everyone here, what does the above mean if he has absolutely no in influence with selecting players and coaches?

Culture is about players and coaches!

The Texan "Way" and Texan "Worthy" were here long before Easterby / Caserio came aboard.
It seems pretty simple to draw a line from wanting a "culture" that is "Texans worthy/way" and hiring a CHARACTER COACH as VP of football operations that is in charge of the "overall culture of the organization."

As far as Easterby Derangement Syndrome; It's called being a fan and wanting more for this franchise than the delusional BS permeating the organization right now. Easterby is just a symptom of inept ownership at the end of the day.

If you ask Cal, Caserio or Culley what is Easterby's role and responsibilities. They go into this ramble about Jack is very talented in several areas, helps in several ways and is here to serve...blah, blah, blah.

After signing with the Texans, multiple players have credited Caserio, Culley and Easterby for their signings. It's only logical for fans to assume Easterby is involved in personnel. With that said, it appears the vax or cure is for the owner and/or GM to do a better job communicating Easterby's role. Otherwise, it will always lead to speculation about his role in the organization.
Nailed it (again). :thumbup
 

Lucky

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Easterby could write a tell all book that the Texans looked the other way while there were reports of sexual assault from their franchise QB.
Look, I don't care for the guy one bit. I think Easterby is a charlatan of the first order. But, I haven't heard from a single source that he (or any of the McNairs) knew anything of Watson's transgressions before they were revealed .
 

TexansBull

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Look, I don't care for the guy one bit. I think Easterby is a charlatan of the first order. But, I haven't heard from a single source that he (or any of the McNairs) knew anything of Watson's transgressions before they were revealed .
I agree that we haven’t heard anything.

But what if Cal or OB might have known what then?

What if their is a “leak” from an anonymous source to Jay Glazer that the Texans could have known and then the NFL is “pressured” to do an investigation. Do you think the Texans want to turn over their emails? Look at what happened to Gruden. Then those emails could be linked.

And if there is an email or something that Cal or OB got wind of it is very bad for the Texans.

I am not saying Cal is dumb, but he did say “China Flu” to a crowd of people when it was well known not to say it. Could you imagine what he emails? He probably forwards some stupid stuff.

This is all conspiracy theory material.

My point is to look at the repercussions of letting someone go who could create more of a headache than keeping him.

Also - after the witch hunt and double standard the Astros have been under I am sure the NFL would waste no time making an example of another Houston team either for the same reasons the Astros were.

I am just saying.

 

badboy

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I would love to see the Bobs interview Easterby.

I compare my former boss with Cal McNair. All the employees including management of which I was one and the vice president just wished he would stay on the golf course and out of the office so we could continue to make money and please customers.
 

badboy

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I agree. You're not made the VP of Player Personnel and assigned no responsibilities or have nothing to do. When you take into account player comments, pictures and the type of people being hired and fired, it paints a picture of someone who is overtly involved. My sense is no one gets hired, fired, drafted or signed without the stamp of approval from the culture warrior. Rumor is Easterby was a vital player in helping Cal beat his addiction to alcohol and why Cal has turned his team over to Easterby.

My sense is no one gets hired, fired, drafted or signed without the stamp of approval from the cultural warrior. Caserio and Culley are both products of Easterby's influence.
I agree that easterby was making decisions prior to the hiring of Nick Caserio but I want to believe he is no longer making those type of decisions. Your comment about Easterby helping Cal McNair to overcome an alcohol addiction I don't recall seeing anywhere including anything about an addiction by Cal.

I am not one for requesting Links or supportive sources for 'rumors ' but what you're saying is a very serious allegation in my opinion. Can you support your comment concerning that?
 

leebigeztx

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Ultimately, I think it's Caserio.

But who is influencing his decisions? He can't be everything and everywhere. The Texans still operate their FO like a corporate boardroom where everyone at the table has a voice. And there is no doubt in my mind that a VP of football operations has a seat at that table.

So yeah, "technically" Caserio is in charge. But when you have a non-football executive as part of the vetting process (along with a clearly clueless owner), it makes it tough to truly believe that they have the best evaluation process possible considering the alternative upgrades.



Nope. That would be Greg Grissom that replaced Rootes as the Texans' team president.

The Texans themselves state that Jack "manages all football operations and directs the overall culture of the organization."

So I ask, with all due respect to everyone here, what does the above mean if he has absolutely no in influence with selecting players and coaches?

Culture is about players and coaches!



It seems pretty simple to draw a line from wanting a "culture" that is "Texans worthy/way" and hiring a CHARACTER COACH as VP of football operations that is in charge of the "overall culture of the organization."

As far as Easterby Derangement Syndrome; It's called being a fan and wanting more for this franchise than the delusional BS permeating the organization right now. Easterby is just a symptom of inept ownership at the end of the day.



Nailed it (again). :thumbup
Esterby is the 2nd most powerful person in organization. He's actually 1b since he has a key in Cals back. If Nick wants to sign a player with a shaky background, he gotta run it by Jack. If Jack mentions a guy, Nick has to consider it strongly. Jack hired Nick, not the other way around which is why this entire thing screams disfunction
 

badboy

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Esterby is the 2nd most powerful person in organization. He's actually 1b since he has a key in Cals back. If Nick wants to sign a player with a shaky background, he gotta run it by Jack. If Jack mentions a guy, Nick has to consider it strongly. Jack hired Nick, not the other way around which is why this entire thing screams disfunction
Just to discuss, if Jack is number two should he not hire or at least approve everyone 3 and below?
 

Texian

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I agree that easterby was making decisions prior to the hiring of Nick Caserio but I want to believe he is no longer making those type of decisions. Your comment about Easterby helping Cal McNair to overcome an alcohol addiction I don't recall seeing anywhere including anything about an addiction by Cal.

I am not one for requesting Links or supportive sources for 'rumors ' but what you're saying is a very serious allegation in my opinion. Can you support your comment concerning that?
I saw it on Twitter by a reputable source. I've spent hours looking for it and can't find it. Kicking myself for not liking or retweeting.
 


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