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swtbound07

swtbound07

Jackass of Day!
For all of the people who have been slamming me when I said we should start rosenfels over carr, now do you at least admit it should merit consideration?? One Qb looked poised, made good reads and throws, and ran the offense crisply, and the other looked nervous, flustered, made bad throws, locked onto his primary target, and didnt run the offense well. Rosenfels should at LEAST be starting a preseason game, if not hop Carr on the depth chart.
 
swtbound07 said:
For all of the people who have been slamming me when I said we should start rosenfels over carr, now do you at least admit it should merit consideration?? One Qb looked poised, made good reads and throws, and ran the offense crisply, and the other looked nervous, flustered, made bad throws, locked onto his primary target, and didnt run the offense well. Rosenfels should at LEAST be starting a preseason game, if not hop Carr on the depth chart.
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carr had to deal with surtain and ty law......pro bowl corners
 
Mr. SWTBound.... I believe you underestimate the mere lack of depth in the Chiefs secondary. I agree that Rosenfels looked most excellent, but against Surtain and Law? Not a chance.

Besides, Carr didn't look nervous at all. Were you even watching? I was there, and trust me.... he wasn't at all nervous. I was more nervous than he was. He made ONE bad throw, which was thankfully broken up by AJ.

Jeez, way to go talking smack so early in the mornin! Haha. You are wrong about Carr, but I agree with you about Rosenfels.... he deserves a starting position. Carr just deserves it more at the moment. If Carr starts to slip (which he wont), I am all for letting Sage start. I have always like him.
 
TexansLucky13 said:
Mr. SWTBound.... I believe you underestimate the mere lack of depth in the Chiefs secondary. I agree that Rosenfels looked most excellent, but against Surtain and Law? Not a chance.

Besides, Carr didn't look nervous at all. Were you even watching? I was there, and trust me.... he wasn't at all nervous. I was more nervous than he was. He made ONE bad throw, which was thankfully broken up by AJ.

Jeez, way to go talking smack so early in the mornin! Haha. You are wrong about Carr, but I agree with you about Rosenfels.... he deserves a starting position. Carr just deserves it more at the moment. If Carr starts to slip (which he wont), I am all for letting Sage start. I have always like him.
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read the gameday thread...he should have been picked off at LEAST twice...Carr doesn't deserve squat.
 
swtbound07 said:
For all of the people who have been slamming me when I said we should start rosenfels over carr, now do you at least admit it should merit consideration?? One Qb looked poised, made good reads and throws, and ran the offense crisply, and the other looked nervous, flustered, made bad throws, locked onto his primary target, and didnt run the offense well. Rosenfels should at LEAST be starting a preseason game, if not hop Carr on the depth chart.
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Wow, a little sour over VY are we still? Carr had the ball for two possesions, The first one, he made two nice throws, and then the inability of A. Smith on two consecetive runs to pick up 1 yard left us punting.

On the second possesion, he made 1 bad throw that should have been picked off, another that was barely tipped or it goes for a 50 yard TD to AJ, and a fumble that he recovers and picks up the 1st on 4th and 1. Other than that, he makes some decent runs, and leads the team down the field for the first score of the game. He looked fine to me. Stopped wishing the guy to fail please.
 
wicked_wayz said:
carr had to deal with surtain and ty law......pro bowl corners
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I realize that Carr was playing against the 1st team defense and Sage was not...but I do have to say that I was very impressed w/ Sage. He showed poise and never seemed to be rattled; something I have yet to see from Carr. Carr did play decent though; just seemed to be a little nervous i.e. sailing the ball, indecisiveness.
 
swtbound07 said:
For all of the people who have been slamming me when I said we should start rosenfels over carr, now do you at least admit it should merit consideration?? One Qb looked poised, made good reads and throws, and ran the offense crisply, and the other looked nervous, flustered, made bad throws, locked onto his primary target, and didnt run the offense well. Rosenfels should at LEAST be starting a preseason game, if not hop Carr on the depth chart.
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Yes, you still seem ridiculous. Quit goin' out of your way to be such a damned potbanger.

If Sage Rosenfels is our starting QB, expect another top 3 draft pick. I love this time of year when folks start proclaiming exhibition game heroes as the saviors of our team.
 
Well Carr was in the game for one quarter against the Chiefs first string defense. Rosenfels was in the game in the 2nd and 3rd quarter against the Chiefs 2nd and 3rd string defense. I don't know if Rosenfels would have had the same success against the Chiefs if he were starting in place of Carr. I do think Carr would have had better success if he were facing the Chiefs 2nd and 3rd string defense though.
 
Yes, you still seem rediculous. :tease: It doesn't matter who starts. It's preseason. :tease:


I haven't even seen any of it, so don't get all stupid and start taking me seriously. Maybe Carr does need to watch somebody else start for a change. I'm just glad we won the sack ratio 5 to zip. That's what matters to me.
 
swtbound07 said:
excuses, party of one, excuses.......
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it ant excuses .....i too thought sage had a good game but seriously how do you think sage will go against surtain and ty law???????
 
swtbound07 said:
read the gameday thread...he should have been picked off at LEAST twice...Carr doesn't deserve squat.
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Read the thread... why? I was there. I saw all of his plays. Besides, I already read that, ahaha. The other play that they are referring to wasn't going to be picked, trust me.

You will not win this, SWTBound. Carr did not play like a chump. Kubiak will have some words for him, yes. But this kid played fine for his own part.

Just let it go, bro! You won't win unless Carr really does suck this year, which he won't. But if he does... you will have been correct. But tonight you are wrong. I have been waiting to argue this with you since I left the game tonight. I knew you would bring it up.
 
swtbound07 said:
read the gameday thread...he should have been picked off at LEAST twice...Carr doesn't deserve squat.
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Did you watch the game or just read the gameday thread? One bad throw, the other was tipped. AJ was open.
 
swtbound07 said:
For all of the people who have been slamming me when I said we should start rosenfels over carr, now do you at least admit it should merit consideration?? One Qb looked poised, made good reads and throws, and ran the offense crisply, and the other looked nervous, flustered, made bad throws, locked onto his primary target, and didnt run the offense well. Rosenfels should at LEAST be starting a preseason game, if not hop Carr on the depth chart.
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I really hope that SWT doesn't have internet access.
 
TexansLucky13 said:
You missed one of the most important games of the Texans franchise history, Jam! I can't believe it! :crying:
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Ya know, I really don't even blame the TV stations. I blame the idiots who always decide to have the Cowboys and Texans play at the same time. That should NEVER happen, unless they're playing each other. Then, they'd both get televised--well, usually.

edit: Notice, it says "idiots". :)
 
TexansLucky13 said:
Mr. SWTBound.... I believe you underestimate the mere lack of depth in the Chiefs secondary. I agree that Rosenfels looked most excellent, but against Surtain and Law? Not a chance.

Besides, Carr didn't look nervous at all. Were you even watching? I was there, and trust me.... he wasn't at all nervous. I was more nervous than he was. He made ONE bad throw, which was thankfully broken up by AJ.

Jeez, way to go talking smack so early in the mornin! Haha. You are wrong about Carr, but I agree with you about Rosenfels.... he deserves a starting position. Carr just deserves it more at the moment. If Carr starts to slip (which he wont), I am all for letting Sage start. I have always like him.
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I only watched bits and pieces on NFL Networks No Huddle, so I won't be calling for Carr's numbers. But I will say what I did see, I can understand where swt is coming from. I did see David lock onto one guy on one play. But overall, I am happy with his play...... his composure wasn't that bad, I don't think, but swt isn't the only one who saw some nervousness....... even some Carr supporters commented on it....

But, the whole point of starting Carr in the Preseason, is to work him in game situations with our starters, against their starters..... If Sage doesn't win the job in practice, then he's just going to have to wait his turn......
 
swtbound07 said:
excuses, party of one, excuses.......
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In this case a.k.a. "context" or "perspective." And I didn't think that Carr was as bad nor Rosenfels as good as you indicate. Rosenfels is a very worthy backup and if Carr plays badly enough, he should get the starting nod. Carr always starts out jittery and I hope and think he will improve rapidly.
 
swtbound07 said:
and you know you don't believe it anymore than I would. Its not a claim you can make seriously.
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Nope, but I'm not convinced yet either. What I'm hearing is Carr did OK with the first team and against the first team, and Sage did better with the second team against the second team. It's the first preseason game, it's the first game under Kubiak, and, shoot, I didn't even see it. :)

My almost first impression is that you're jumping the gun. You need to almost, sort of be more patient. :tease:
 
jerek said:
In this case a.k.a. "context" or "perspective." And I didn't think that Carr was as bad nor Rosenfels as good as you indicate. Rosenfels is a very worthy backup and if Carr plays badly enough, he should get the starting nod. Carr always starts out jittery and I hope and think he will improve rapidly.
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So my question is....how perfect does sage have to play versus how poorly does carr have to play for him to lose his job? Because I think tonight showed that is what should happen....and i've been saying it for weeks now.
 
swtbound07 said:
So my question is....how perfect does sage have to play versus how poorly does carr have to play for him to lose his job? Because I think tonight showed that is what should happen....and i've been saying it for weeks now.
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Some of that is how long and some of it is how much, but I will say that the stairing-down-one-receiver thing really bothers me. I thought he was doing that last year because nobody else was ever getting open anyway. That has to stop or his talent is useless. I'm sure Kubiak will tell him something similar.
 
swtbound07 said:
Again i say...somebody sit here and tell me Sage had a worse game then Carr.
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Is 10-18 for 78 yards against the 2nd and 3rd string defense really that great?

You are making it sound like he was 15-18 for 200 yards and 3 touchdowns.

He averaged 4.33 yards per attempt, Carr threw 5 passes and averaged 4.6 yards per attempt. Not great, but it was only 5 passes.
 
hit lundy in the hands and had them dropped twice, and i felt like he looked better and made better decisions. Carr looked like garbage
 
swtbound07 said:
So my question is....how perfect does sage have to play versus how poorly does carr have to play for him to lose his job? Because I think tonight showed that is what should happen....and i've been saying it for weeks now.
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To answer your question, you do seem ridiculous. Very, very ridiculous. Carr threw one bad ball and had another one tipped on a very athletic play by the DB, completed the rest of his passes and spent the rest of the game on the sideline with the rest of the starters. How is that supposed to provide a meaningful comparison, much less one that would suggest the disparity you are trying to demonstrate?

I suppose if you are going to compare stat lines for the play of one player/unit to the next, then Cochran, TJ, Kalu, and Peek should start over Mario, Weaver, Payne, and Babin. Why not Derrick Armstrong (multiple catches) over Andre Johnson (no catches?) Curtis for his 1 INT over our other DBs? This is not night/day, it's not black/white, it is a mighty fine shade of gray and you're just being silly about it if you want to pretend like it matters much at this point.

Stuff your Carr rants for at least another week or two. Between you carrying on about Carr and ESPN riding Reggie Bush's jock all the way into the Hall of Fame ... yeesh ...
 
To put it into perspective........


Aaron Rogers had a better game than Brett Farve....... Cutler had a better game than Plummer....... & Gerard(who really should be starting somewhere) had a better game than Leftwich..... but none of them are challenging for the starting job this year.
 
Hell, both Schaub and DJ Shockley looked better than Vick the other day. What does that mean? Absolutely squat.
 
dtran04 said:
Dave Ragone looked pretty good last year too. He's a top of the line QB right?
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You say that like he's a bum...... we never gave him a chance to play.....

he might be the next Flutie, or Delhomme, or Brady for all we know...
 
dtran04 said:
Hell, both Schaub and DJ Shockley looked better than Vick the other day. What does that mean? Absolutely squat.
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The Chiefs backup QB looked a lot better than Trent Green. Trent better go to sleep scared tonight. Very scared.
 
dtran04 said:
Hell, both Schaub and DJ Shockley looked better than Vick the other day. What does that mean? Absolutely squat.
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In your dreams......... no doubt, Shaub looked good. but I wouldn't start him over Vick............. and I'm not a Vick fan.
 
the difference in all those examples is that they are good quarterbacks, and Carr is merely a lousy quarterback labeled with "potential".

I find it ironic the same people that think a good lundy showing might secure him a spot over DD refuse to consider the same happening to Carr.
 
swtbound07 said:
the difference in all those examples is that they are good quarterbacks, and Carr is merely a lousy quarterback labeled with "potential".

I find it ironic the same people that think a good lundy showing might secure him a spot over DD refuse to consider the same happening to Carr.
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not only that, but they've already moved Lundy up the depth chart, and moved Antowain (who played against the first team defense)to the waiver list.

but Charlie Whitehurst, so far, is looking better than Phillip Rivers.....
 
thunderkyss said:
not only that, but they've already moved Lundy up the depth chart, and moved Antowain (who played against the first team defense)to the waiver list.

but Charlie Whitehurst, so far, is looking better than Phillip Rivers.....
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shrugs...lundy is a hero, and carr has immunity. What do you want from me?
 
swtbound07 said:
For all of the people who have been slamming me when I said we should start rosenfels over carr, now do you at least admit it should merit consideration?? One Qb looked poised, made good reads and throws, and ran the offense crisply, and the other looked nervous, flustered, made bad throws, locked onto his primary target, and didnt run the offense well. Rosenfels should at LEAST be starting a preseason game, if not hop Carr on the depth chart.
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i agree...and i think we should start schifino over aj...and out
r whole 2nd string d-line:rolleyes: ....uggghh great logic there:brickwall
 
David Carr has had 4 seasons of being flattened. His confidence in the Oline will take time to repair, but not being sacked against the Chiefs is a good start.
 
HJam72 said:
Yeah, way to go David, superstar, not getting sacked! :redtowel:
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so when was the last time we could say that he hadn't been sacked in a game...(and I know some smart arse will mentioned one of the games he didn't play because of injury.):)
 
mancunian said:
so when was the last time we could say that he hadn't been sacked in a game...(and I know some smart arse will mentioned one of the games he didn't play because of injury.):)
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sir he played ONE quarter...if thats all it takes to build his confidence, he's had several sack-free quarters.
 
At least he didn't sack himself....I don't think. :confused:

edit: This just in (by smart arse--that's me :) )David has never been sacked in a game that he didn't play in because of injury.
 
HJam72 said:
At least he didn't sack himself....I don't think.

edit: This just in (by smart arse--that's me :) )David has never been sacked in a game that he didn't play in because of injury.
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:yahoo: :) :banana:
 
HJam72 said:
At least he didn't sack himself....I don't think. :confused:

edit: This just in (by smart arse--that's me :) )David has never been sacked in a game that he didn't play in because of injury.
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give him time sir...he can find a way
 
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