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McAllister -- 8 years, $50.1 million.
Bennett -- 2 years, $3 million.
Bush -- who knows, probably close to what McAllister is making.

That will be close to $100 million tied up in one position. And I'm sure McAllister won't have any problems with allowing a rookie RB to walk right in and cut his #s in half.
 
I know I look forward to seeing how this problem is taken care of :).

I have a feeling that people are gonna be praising the Texans for not taking Bush before its all said and done.
 
Grid said:
I know I look forward to seeing how this problem is taken care of :).

I have a feeling that people are gonna be praising the Texans for not taking Bush before its all said and done.
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Agreed.
 
battlered said:
a trade might still happen btwn NO and Jets
Bush - Dbrick and some player/future picks
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The Jets had their chance to trade for Bush and didn't take it.
 
Bobo said:
The Jets had their chance to trade for Bush and didn't take it.
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Actually, NO made it pretty clear they weren't trading Bush, even though NYJ tried to trade up. So blame it on NO, not NYJ, and don't expect any trades any time soon. I think they want him there. I'd expect Stallworth to get cut, and maybe even McCallister in a year or two
 
Bobo said:
McAllister -- 8 years, $50.1 million.
Bennett -- 2 years, $3 million.
Bush -- who knows, probably close to what McAllister is making.

That will be close to $100 million tied up in one position. And I'm sure McAllister won't have any problems with allowing a rookie RB to walk right in and cut his #s in half.
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Aren't the Saints in financial trouble now? Too, I don't think the Jets were offering much to trade-up, plus-as another poster mentioned-for all the hype about Bush, no team wanted to step up and get him!!!
 
Bobo said:
McAllister -- 8 years, $50.1 million.
Bennett -- 2 years, $3 million.
Bush -- who knows, probably close to what McAllister is making.

That will be close to $100 million tied up in one position. And I'm sure McAllister won't have any problems with allowing a rookie RB to walk right in and cut his #s in half.
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great job doing ur homework, i knew they had a lot of money tied into deuce but i had no idea how much. Somebody is going to get cut or denied an extension because of all this salary space. I wonder who it will be. Maybe LeCharles Bentley was the first of many.
 
Specter said:
great job doing ur homework, i knew they had a lot of money tied into deuce but i had no idea how much. Somebody is going to get cut or denied an extension because of all this salary space. I wonder who it will be. Maybe LeCharles Bentley was the first of many.
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They also lost their best DE to the Eagles
 
Bobo said:
That will be close to $100 million tied up in one position. And I'm sure McAllister won't have any problems with allowing a rookie RB to walk right in and cut his #s in half.
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that's going to get real messy if there are any performance clauses or LTBE bonuses\incentives.

Maybe they will revive the Wishbone...
 
I had this theory that Benson drafted him to boost ticket sales. THen after all the season tickets, etc. had sold, he would trade him to NYJ for D'Brick & future considerations. Low? have you SEEN their owner?
 
[[Gary Kubiak]] said:
Bush will sell tickets. I dont think you all know this, but Houston has no problems selling tickets.
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Yeah, we just have problems with people showing up that bought the tickets...
 
For the record, I will state that, as long as they maintain current ownership/FO/coaching, that Saints will not win more than 8 games with Reggie Bush.
 
jerek said:
For the record, I will state that, as long as they maintain current ownership/FO/coaching, that Saints will not win more than 8 games with Reggie Bush.
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A whole new coaching staff is in place, what could be so bad about the new coachig staff when we have yet to see any results on the field? Not one assistant coach from Jim Hasletts staff was retained. This is a whole new staff.
 
tsip said:
Aren't the Saints in financial trouble now? Too, I don't think the Jets were offering much to trade-up, plus-as another poster mentioned-for all the hype about Bush, no team wanted to step up and get him!!!
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That poster would be me.

I don't get the Saints drafting him at all. You lost your best lineman in LeCharles Bentley and your best DL in Darren Howard. So MW is gone...why would you NOT take Ferguson?

Now you have a 100 Million dollar backfield....No line to block for them and No Defense to get you to ball back. :confused: Maybe they'll try reggie at CB too?

Again I say for how godly Reggie Bush was nobody seemed willing to put up the package to move up and SERIOUSLY get him.
 
Texas_Thrill said:
That poster would be me.

I don't get the Saints drafting him at all. You lost your best lineman in LeCharles Bentley and your best DL in Darren Howard. So MW is gone...why would you NOT take Ferguson?

Now you have a 100 Million dollar backfield....No line to block for them and No Defense to get you to ball back. :confused: Maybe they'll try reggie at CB too?

Again I say for how godly Reggie Bush was nobody seemed willing to put up the package to move up and SERIOUSLY get him.
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You lost all credibility with this.

Nothing you say can be taken serious with uninformed comments like this.
 
tsip said:
Aren't the Saints in financial trouble now? Too, I don't think the Jets were offering much to trade-up, plus-as another poster mentioned-for all the hype about Bush, no team wanted to step up and get him!!!
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Maybe FEMA has a bit of revenue left over they can toss in. :rolleyes:
I still say it ain't over til the fat lady sings.
 
jerek said:
For the record, I will state that, as long as they maintain current ownership/FO/coaching, that Saints will not win more than 8 games with Reggie Bush.
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I would disagree with that, were they not in the same division with Tampa Bay(Improved), Atlanta(Improved), & Carolina(Improved). That is at least 5 losses right there. Maybe 6 :stirpot:
 
LikeABoss said:
A whole new coaching staff is in place, what could be so bad about the new coachig staff when we have yet to see any results on the field? Not one assistant coach from Jim Hasletts staff was retained. This is a whole new staff.
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How will the folKs of NO react when Bush does not sign? How will Joe Horn/Deuce react? What is going to happen if Bush is asked to go to court due to the allegations? A lot of questions and there are few answers.
 
Frak The Jags said:
I would disagree with that, were they not in the same division with Tampa Bay(Improved), Atlanta(Improved), & Carolina(Improved). That is at least 5 losses right there. Maybe 6 :stirpot:
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Wait...

*looks at Avatar*

So now you're a Falcons fan now?:confused:

*throws his hands up and leaves the thread*
 
Kaiser Toro said:
How will the folKs of NO react when Bush does not sign?
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This is your speculation (an ignorant one at that I must say).

How will Joe Horn/Deuce react?
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http://www.nola.com/sports/t-p/index.ssf?/base/sports-23/1146382376203380.xml

^^Deuce's response

Joe Horn praised the pick as well, he already gave him the nickname "Baby Matrix"

What is going to happen if Bush is asked to go to court due to the allegations? A lot of questions and there are few answers.
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Go to court for what? WTF, you think he murdered someone or something? This is a stupid question.
 
dtran04 said:
Good luck to Reggie dealing with the nastiest D-Lines in the NFC South.
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Hello reggie! Welcome to the Saints, sorry LeCharles is no longer with us but I'd like to introduce you to John Abraham, patrick Kerney, jevon kearse, haloti gnata, simeon rice, casey hampton, michael straham, and julius peppers! You will meet all these great guys this year!! and a few of them you will have the pleasure of getting to know twice a year, what luck!!
 
Kaiser Toro said:
There are no stupid questions, just stupid answers.
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Look man, I don't have the time for this childish, 8 year old crap.

You asked me questions, I gave you valid answers, what else do you want from me?
 
LikeABoss said:
Look man, I don't have the time for this childish, 8 year old crap.

You asked me questions, I gave you valid answers, what else do you want from me?
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Actually, your answers were merely your opinions with no validity to them at all. When you try to justify your 100 million dollar backfield, you listed Joe Horn as a credible source. When presented the the possibility of Bush defending himself in court at some time due to these recent allegations, you attempted to shrug the question off and say it was stupid...then you said you were leaving the board and you were the next poster.

So, you have brought nothing intelligent to this discussion or to this board. In fact, you also have not answered a single question with a valid answer.
 
YoungTexanFan said:
Actually, your answers were merely your opinions with no validity to them at all. When you try to justify your 100 million dollar backfield, you listed Joe Horn as a credible source.
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So you are implying that I (a Saints fan who has no affliation with the Saints organization) justify our 100 million dollar backfield to a bunch of biased, bitter Texans fans on a internet message board who constantly bash our pick?:confused:

Sorry, but I do not have to justify a thing to a bunch of bitter Texan fans. Now as far those allegations go, if it is not gonna prevent Reggie Bush from seeing the football field, then why should anyone be worried about it?idonno:

And why does it seems like the only people who have a problem with our pick are the people on this board. Are ya'll bitter because ESPN and the rest the national sports media are bashing the Texans organization for not drafting Bush? I mean, if ya'll have to bash our pick just to make yourselves feel better thenidonno:

But it makes you sound like a bunch of bitter biatches of you ask me:tv:
 
Specter said:
great job doing ur homework, i knew they had a lot of money tied into deuce but i had no idea how much. Somebody is going to get cut or denied an extension because of all this salary space. I wonder who it will be. Maybe LeCharles Bentley was the first of many.
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Is D. Brees playing for Free?
 
:stirpot:
LikeABoss said:
And why does it seems like the only people who have a problem with our pick are the people on this board. Are ya'll bitter because ESPN and the rest the national sports media are bashing the Texans organization for not drafting Bush? I mean, if ya'll have to bash our pick just to make yourselves feel better thenidonno:
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Dear Brain Surgeon,

Even with the cap expansion, Benson is in the car business which is sucking harder than Whitney Houston working over her crack pipe. Translation: NO MONEY.

News Flash : If the Saints didn't take Bush then the Titans would and that decision would have the Texans facing him twice a year. I would have preferred a quarterback problem between McNair and Young than seeing Bush in there. Translation: The Saints did us a favor... and THANK YOU.
 
LikeABoss said:
And why does it seems like the only people who have a problem with our pick are the people on this board. Are ya'll bitter because ESPN and the rest the national sports media are bashing the Texans organization for not drafting Bush? I mean, if ya'll have to bash our pick just to make yourselves feel better thenidonno:

But it makes you sound like a bunch of bitter biatches of you ask me:tv:
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Check my posts...... I'm not bitter at all..... I'm giddy. There's nothing I like more about our draft, than not picking Reggie with the #1 overall.

I'm not one of those guys hoping Reggie fails either...... but I'm curious to see how you guys juggle Reggie($9 mill), Duece($7 mill) & Bennette($2 mill)..... I think you'll end up loosing Duece, who gives you everything you need out of a running back...... so you more or less went sideways with the pick. you might have taken a step forward, but it was mostly a sideways move for you..... waste of time and money.

Now..... the rest of the country gives us an A- to a B+ in our draft. you guys get an A for Reggie, but a failing grade for the rest... averaging to a C...... if that is even remotely true(since you want to tout the opinions of a bunch of people who don't care about your team or mine)..... one of our teams is headed out of mediocoreVille, and the other is moving to a new house, same neighborhood.

I still follow the Saints..... I love the gulf coast. I think it was a mistake for you to get rid of Aaron Brooks, Drew Brees IMHO is another sideways move. He's got that shoulder thing, which might hurt you guys for years to come, where Aaron only needed a good coach........ he's dumb as hell, but when he is on, he's on...

D'Brick, then Kiwanuka..... that's what you should have done. Save your money on Brees, slap Aaron around the locker room, and upgrade your TE, and your DBs....... but that's me......

Good luck in '06, see you in the SuperBowl.
 
Vambo said:
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Dear Brain Surgeon,

Even with the cap expansion, Benson is in the car business which is sucking harder than Whitney Houston working over her crack pipe. Translation: NO MONEY.

News Flash : If the Saints didn't take Bush then the Titans would and that decision would have the Texans facing him twice a year. I would have preferred a quarterback problem between McNair and Young than seeing Bush in there. Translation: The Saints did us a favor... and THANK YOU.
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Titans would have been smart, and passed on Reggie as well. QB vs RB...... QB wins 9 times out of ten. Best QB ever..... Best RB ever........ QB.

The Titans aren't worried about wining this year..... they'll be competitve, win 4-8 games. But they are working on 2007.
 
LikeABoss said:
Wait...

*looks at Avatar*

So now you're a Falcons fan now?:confused:

*throws his hands up and leaves the thread*
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I am FROM Atlanta. I am just a bigger Texans fan. Falcons are my "B Team." You know Falcons & Saints have always had a good rivalry & I think this will only improve what has been some really great games. No hate implied towards the Saints. Carolina, TB, & Atlanta all look better than the Saints do. But, that is why they play the game. :)
 
Frak The Jags said:
I am FROM Atlanta. I am just a bigger Texans fan. Falcons are my "B Team." You know Falcons & Saints have always had a good rivalry & I think this will only improve what has been some really great games. No hate implied towards the Saints. Carolina, TB, & Atlanta all look better than the Saints do. But, that is why they play the game. :)
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You know what I'm tired of??

We get up for the Jax games, the Indy Games, & the Cowboys games. And they couldn't care less.


I hope like heck we give them something to worry about in '06.
 
texman8 said:
Saints will be in line to draft Brady Quinn or Adrian Peterson next year.
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why in the world would you draft peterson if you have mcallister with BIG money alongside bush with BIG money and not to mention brees with BIG money?????I can see the quinn thing going down if brees doesnt recover from his injury but you cant think the saints would even look for a running back with a high pick next year unless both of they're running backs have either devastating injuries or mcallister gets cut....
 
LikeABoss said:
Look man, I don't have the time for this childish, 8 year old crap.

You asked me questions, I gave you valid answers, what else do you want from me?
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How about you answer your running back log jam you have there.

Your the one side stepping the important question.
 
Specter said:
Hello reggie! Welcome to the Saints, sorry LeCharles is no longer with us but I'd like to introduce you to John Abraham, patrick Kerney, jevon kearse, haloti gnata, simeon rice, casey hampton, michael straham, and julius peppers! You will meet all these great guys this year!! and a few of them you will have the pleasure of getting to know twice a year, what luck!!
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Love this .....

Hi Bush welcome to the league , sorry you lost the center like he would have been any help against Simeon Rice and I really have to assume that Straham is Strahan in Texan code , the line in New Orleans by most standards would be considered upgraded over last year , LeCharles is gone but so is take a play or two off Gandy .

Unlike the Texans , the Saints were forced into subpar practice during last season and that directly resulted in a losing season , for the Texans it was just another in what will probably be a long list of overall number 1 picks .

Bush will suit up for a solid team that posted a series of mid level seasons before Katrina , if the 100 million dolar backfield bothers some , well check the numbers on the Colts last season , Manning , Edge and Harrison aint exactly cheap ....
 
Saintz08 said:
Bush will suit up for a solid team that posted a series of mid level seasons before Katrina , if the 100 million dolar backfield bothers some , well check the numbers on the Colts last season , Manning , Edge and Harrison aint exactly cheap ....
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Manning, Edge, and Harrison occupied three separate positions...McAllister and Bush are both RBs...

$100M divided amongst superstars at three positions > $100M divided amongst two players platooning at one position...
 
D-ReK said:
Manning, Edge, and Harrison occupied three separate positions...McAllister and Bush are both RBs...

$100M divided amongst superstars at three positions > $100M divided amongst two players platooning at one position...
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What defenses are looking at is a thunder and Lightning combo .The Saints are in much better cap position after the often injured Howard left .
 
Toan said:
Uhhh, I don't recall ya'll being forced into a subpar practice the other year, which was also a losing season. And, oh yea, we had a better record then you in that season.
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:pigfly:

Texans

2002 - 4-12
2003 - 5-11
2004 - 7-9
2005 - 2-14

Saints

2002 - 9-7
2003 - 8-8
2004 - 8-8
2005 - 3-13

Which season would you be referring too ?????
 
Toan said:
Whoops, I was for sure you had a 6-10 season, my fault...
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No problem. It's easy to get confused when the entire franchise has a history of floundering.

A Poor Man's Almanac

floun·der 1 Pronunciation (floundr)
intr.v. floun·dered, floun·der·ing, floun·ders
1. To make clumsy attempts to move or regain one's balance.
2. To move or act clumsily and in confusion. See Synonyms at blunder.
n.
The act of floundering. From the popular Gulf Coast fish, the flounder. A species that is characterized by its bottom feeding habits.

To be a Saint is to be historically known as a blundering flounder that even a Manning could not save. 1967-2005 is 38 years straight of being on the gettin end of an *** kicking. Two WHOLE decades before they posted their first winning season.

Highlight of the Franchise
One field goal back in 1970. ( a field goal is the highlight of the franchise :D )
EDIT: to add a field goal to beat the Lions. Highlight, High watermark of franchise beating the Lions...

snarf... Saints coming around to stir up trouble... har har har har har
 
D-ReK said:
Manning, Edge, and Harrison occupied three separate positions...McAllister and Bush are both RBs...

$100M divided amongst superstars at three positions > $100M divided amongst two players platooning at one position...
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And what do you think they pay Peyton Manning .....:ok:

So by your logic it is ridiculous to pay 100 million for 2 runningbacks but a great idea to sign Peyton Manning to a 98 Million dollar contract ? I was not dividing it among the trio , I was just not aware that you were unaware Manning had a 98 Million dollar contract . That's o.k. though , you guys are new to the league , so we will cut you some slack ......
 
Saintz08 said:
That's o.k. though , you guys are new to the league , so we will cut you some slack ......
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I'm sorry, but before NO had a football team, Houston had a football team called the Oilers or something.

And the Oilers-somethings, unlike the Saints, won games.

Shocking, isn't it? History is full of little surprises.
 
You guys are seriously dilusional...

The Saints, who have ''no defense'' finished in the top half overall Defensively...

There will be no trade between the Jets and the Saints..to even suggest that is laughable...I mean..seriously...Are you guys going to trade away Williams..? come on..get real...

Bush will get a big contract..that's a no brainer...and Deuce allready had a big contract...He's not worried at all about Bush stealing his thunder, and has even been quoted as saying how much He looks forward to playing with Bush..He said having him there would only help his play overall..which is entirely true...

I think alot of you guys are still very sore about the Texans passing on Bush..but then you get pissed at the Saints for picking him?..that's just ignorant..So you come up with every excuse you can to make it seem like Reggie will be a bust, and that passing on him was a blessing.....We have a much better Team than you guys give credit for...and Bush coming in only makes it better...

San Diego went for quite a while with 2 top paid QB's on the same Team..we can easily do that as well..we only have very few top dollar guys, and we have a huge fan base...Money is not a problem with the Saints...

It isn't like Deuce and Bush can play together forever.. that's not the expectaion from the Saints..they want to have a devastating 2 RB combo, and they now have it...Spin it however you want..it was NOT a mistake drafting Bush..and you guys know it..so save all the doomsday rhetoric..it's just dumb.

3 weeks ago, Reggie was the best College prospect ever...what has happened to change that?..the Texans passing on him doesn't make him worse, and it never has and never will for any player...

We got Bush, and the Texans handed him to us..get over it..we have!!..You guys got a stellar young DE..can't you be happy with that, and stop trying to sling mud?
 
If you came around this board, oh say, ~35 years, I mean, weeks ago, you'd see that there was a fierce opposition against the drafting of Bush.
 
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