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Nnamdi Asomugha is now an unrestricted free agent...

Question is as much would a premier FA want to come here.

If people think we are ready to contend we'll see the quality of player we sign increase.

Till then we will overpay for less than great players.
 
One of the goals when we close or merge threads is to keep the same or similar topics together. There were about 8 to 10 Nnamdi Asomugha threads on the day it was announced that he was a free agent. We want to have your say, but often it does not take a new thread to say it in.

Also, until a free agent is linked to the Texans by "legtimate" source versus fans specualtion those threads are kept in the NFL section versus Texans section simply because the player in question is not a Texans and fans are merely speculating (hoping) that said player becomes one.

We are not perfect in regards to either of these but that is the goal at least.

Hope this helps and welcome to the board.
 
I would just like to know we went after Nnamdi. I think the chances of him signing here aren't very good. PFT had an article stating that he would like to play for the Jets (kill me now) or the Packers.

However, if we could make a play at Champ for CB then I would be very happy that we got one of the two great CBs on the market.
 
ArlingtonTexan said:
One of the goals when we close or merge threads is to keep the same or similar topics together. There were about 8 to 10 Nnamdi Asomugha threads on the day it was announced that he was a free agent. We want to have your say, but often it does not take a new thread to say it in.

Also, until a free agent is linked to the Texans by "legtimate" source versus fans specualtion those threads are kept in the NFL section versus Texans section simply because the player in question is not a Texans and fans are merely speculating (hoping) that said player becomes one.

We are not perfect in regards to either of these but that is the goal at least.

Hope this helps and welcome to the board.
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So is there a legitimate source saying he's linked to the Texans since it's on the Texans section of the board? Please say yes!!

EDIT: Damn!
 
TheCD said:
I would just like to know we went after Nnamdi. I think the chances of him signing here aren't very good. PFT had an article stating that he would like to play for the Jets (kill me now) or the Packers.

However, if we could make a play at Champ for CB then I would be very happy that we got one of the two great CBs on the market.
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I saw that crap about the Jets and the Pack... sucks. I'm not too heart broken though. I think I just got excited that somehow the dumba$$es in OAK had somehow lost their top notch CB lol

I'm sure there are/will be 5-10 CB's that will be available that would upgrade our secondary by a whole "letter grade"
 
GP said:
I like that idea.

But it's too traumatic of a move. It really is.

Slow and steady wins the race, remember?

Man, two slam-dunk defensive players at two spots that need it the most. Save the money on a first rounder's contract (especially since he will be at no. 11, IIRC).

I'd dump Jacoby. And I'd dump Okoye. Two project players dumped so that we can get two legitimate defensive players.

How could the financial aspects NOT work out? Anyone got possible pitfalls and ideas on why it wouldn't?

By the way, for the trolls out there, this is how you enter into "football talk" while also slinging some barbs and darts: You just mix in some actual football conversation with it all. It works. Try it.
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I like his idea too.

With two 2nd Rd picks after trading out of the 1 st rd. You could probably get 2 of the following 3 player in the 2nd rd. OLB Moch,DT Ellis,S Carter. Adding these guys plus getting ASO and Seymour and you would have a much improved defense.

You could even use your 2nd/3rd rd picks to trade up and get all 3 of these guys.

Moves like this would energize the fan base. But it would require $$$$ and thinking outside the box. This is something you can never accuse BoB,Gary and Rick of doing. Why? Because moving and shaking would be too traumatic. LOL
 
edo783 said:
No one will be doing ANYTHING until the CBA is done and the CAP is agreed on. They can't even talk to players til the CBA is done and to make any player an offer before you know how much you can spend would be really stupid.
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Schefter tweeted same thing. Said nothing will be done until new CBA.

Messy stuff.
 
Shaft75 said:
Quick, let's scare him away by tweeting him to death.

:strangle:
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I was a part of the great Leigh Bodden Tweet-a-thon.

Never again.

Seemed like a good idea at the time. Maybe it shouldn't be attempted until we've actually signed the guy? I think so.
 
GP said:
I was a part of the great Leigh Bodden Tweet-a-thon.

Never again.

Seemed like a good idea at the time. Maybe it shouldn't be attempted until we've actually signed the guy? I think so.
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That was all Steph's fault, she started the idea. Blame her for scaring him away so he couldn't go on our IR list.
 
Dutchrudder said:
That was all Steph's fault, she started the idea. Blame her for scaring him away so he couldn't go on our IR list.
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I got up in the heat of the moment. A chance at what was perceived to be a better CB off a talented team is what sucked me in.

The whole time, though, I was like "Hmmm....don't we always get used as leverage by free agents?" I was never truly hopeful he'd get here. Reality kicked in pretty quick. I mean, why leave the Patriots? For Houston. LOL.

By the way, I finally researched your screen name. Disgusting. Does it count if I hold my own unit, and use my other arm to steer the rudder? I think that's how an Aggie goes about performing a dutch rudder. LOL.
 
Nnamdi is at ESPN today, and Its disgusting. First Mike Greenberg begging him to go to the Jets, then random NY homers telling him to go to the Jets. The only person I agreed with was Bayless. :kubepalm: Id rather him stay In Oakland than go to the Jets.
 
GP said:
By the way, I finally researched your screen name. Disgusting. Does it count if I hold my own unit, and use my other arm to steer the rudder? I think that's how an Aggie goes about performing a dutch rudder. LOL.
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No it doesn't. But as Zack and Miri Make a Porno shows, you could go Double Dutch and share with someone else.
 
http://www.rotoworld.com/headlines/nfl/204326/football-headlines?r=1

SI.com's Peter King lists the Eagles, Cowboys, Texans, Lions, and Jets as the teams most likely to pursue free agent Nnamdi Asomugha.
"But the Jets ONLY if there's not going to be a salary cap in 2011," adds King. ESPN's Adam Schefter also listed Philly and Dallas as primary suitors, along with the Redskins and Ravens. Baltimore seems likely to bow out after picking up Jimmy Smith, and Houston isn't expected to pursue heavily. If handicapping, we'd take the NFC East against the rest of the field
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There's a man out there who could make a real difference here. Nobody wants to overpay for a player but from time to time almost everyone does. This man is possibly the closest thing to a "sure thing" that any of us have ever seen and the Texans will not aggressively pursue him.

Get a price, pay it, and stop worrying about fixing the secondary for most of the next decade or..... just keep doing the kind of crap you always do guys. I'm sure this will work out now that Wade's here.
 
False Start said:
I think it will be the Eagles, or the Girls, hes not coming here.
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The Texans could really learn a thing from the Eagles. Sure, they haven't won a SB, but boy they sure have found a way to stay successful in the toughest division in the NFL year after year. They might have a bad year every now and then, but they've bounced back the very next year in the last ten years. They've gone from Mcnabb to Garcia back to Mcnabb then to Kolb and Vick and have stayed as one of the NFC conference threats year after year. The Eagles are constantly big players in free agency and in making trades every off season as well so they never have to "rely" on an excellent draft like the Texans do in order to try and take that next step that we still have yet to actually take.
 
Texecutioner said:
The Texans could really learn a thing from the Eagles. Sure, they haven't won a SB, but boy they sure have found a way to stay successful in the toughest division in the NFL year after year. They might have a bad year every now and then, but they've bounced back the very next year in the last ten years. They've gone from Mcnabb to Garcia back to Mcnabb then to Kolb and Vick and have stayed as one of the NFC conference threats year after year. The Eagles are constantly big players in free agency and in making trades every off season as well so they never have to "rely" on an excellent draft like the Texans do in order to try and take that next step that we still have yet to actually take.
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It has been said that if you live by the sword you die by the sword. Similarly, if you live by the draft, you die by the draft. There is no better example of this than the usually moribund Texans. Message to Texans.........Since you have yet to learn how to handle the sword with any consistency, invest in a shield!
 
False Start said:
I think it will be the Eagles, or the Girls, hes not coming here.
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After the way Jerry laid low in FA the last few years I didn't expect them to go after him but the draft was notoriously lacking in any CB help with their picks so that leads me to believe that they will look at him and safety help. He even said he trusts Ryan to run the defense and that they will look at FAs.
 
It's sad that even if the Texans made a run at him, which they wont, there is no way he'll come here. They should have traded for him. This is NOT a peak FA landing place.
 
Hervoyel said:
There's a man out there who could make a real difference here. Nobody wants to overpay for a player but from time to time almost everyone does. This man is possibly the closest thing to a "sure thing" that any of us have ever seen and the Texans will not aggressively pursue him.

Get a price, pay it, and stop worrying about fixing the secondary for most of the next decade or..... just keep doing the kind of crap you always do guys. I'm sure this will work out now that Wade's here.
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Aso is 29. How long do CBs usually remain relevant? Bailey is 32 and has already started to decline significantly compared to his previous "lockdown" status

I know RB is 30, but when DBs are concerned, I dont really know the longevity
 
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gtexan02 said:
Aso is 29. How long do CBs usually remain relevant? Bailey is 32 and has already started to decline significantly compared to his previous "lockdown" status
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And yet Bailey will probably play at a higher level for the next two years than anyone who has ever worn a Texans jersey other than Aaron Glenn who left here at 32, played 5 more years, and then retired at 37.

For most of those 5 years he was probably better than most of the DB's on our roster.

Not every player is going to play well for a long time but Aso, barring injury looks like a guy who could probably start for you for 5+ years. Maybe I was a little overenthusiastic in saying "most of a decade" but he's still someone we could sign and who I would not be upset about paying big bucks for.

But we won't because we're on the right track and we don't need a shut down corner. We'll just develop one of our own here.... eventually.
 
Hervoyel said:
There's a man out there who could make a real difference here. Nobody wants to overpay for a player but from time to time almost everyone does. This man is possibly the closest thing to a "sure thing" that any of us have ever seen and the Texans will not aggressively pursue him.

Get a price, pay it, and stop worrying about fixing the secondary for most of the next decade or..... just keep doing the kind of crap you always do guys. I'm sure this will work out now that Wade's here.
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Whoa there slick..1 good cb does not a secondary make. For as good as Aso has been any decent qb could still pick that raiders secondary apart pretty much at will...I know Schaub hasn't had much trouble with them over the years. So while i would love to get him here, we wouldn't be able to stop the bolded..furthermore you don't need a shut down cb per se, just competent ones.
 
Mr teX said:
Whoa there slick..1 good cb does not a secondary make. For as good as Aso has been any decent qb could still pick that raiders secondary apart pretty much at will...I know Schaub hasn't had much trouble with them over the years. So while i would love to get him here, we wouldn't be able to stop the bolded..furthermore you don't need a shut down cb per se, just competent ones.
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Not according to teams that have/had Deion, Revis, etc. A shutdown guy locks one half of the field, allowing safety coverage and everybody else to shadow the other side. The Raiders pass defense was #2 last year. #7 the year before. So yeah, it kind of does make a difference. The Raiders issue was getting run on year after year.
 
7 year $105 million contract with first 3 years guaranteed and $25m upfront. The contract is back end loaded and last two he has to make team to get. $25m over 7 years is chicken feed against cap and you pay him $30 m first two years. He gets $40m first year and cap hit is $15 + apprx $3 which is a bit over what Oakland had him for this coming year. After starting against the opponents best WR for 5 years, he can move to nickle or dime or cut him.
 
HoustonFrog said:
Not according to teams that have/had Deion, Revis, etc. A shutdown guy locks one half of the field, allowing safety coverage and everybody else to shadow the other side. The Raiders pass defense was #2 last year. #7 the year before. So yeah, it kind of does make a difference. The Raiders issue was getting run on year after year.
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Not saying it wouldn't make a difference, just saying we'd be far from still worrying about our secondary....especially in a division with Peyton Manning.
 
HoustonFrog said:
Not according to teams that have/had Deion, Revis, etc. A shutdown guy locks one half of the field, allowing safety coverage and everybody else to shadow the other side. The Raiders pass defense was #2 last year. #7 the year before. So yeah, it kind of does make a difference. The Raiders issue was getting run on year after year.
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Well kind of. The Cowboys had some other contributors like Darren Woodson (5 time pro-bowler) and Brock Marion (3 time pro-bowler).
 
I read a stat the other day that said over the last few years of Nnamdi's career, he's been thrown at less than twice per game.

That is insane respect.
 
I still in the back of my mind hold out a slight hope that he may come to play for the Texans. I just think back to Nate Clements signing with the 49ers when they weren't worth a damn. It was all about the money with that deal obviously, so maybe, just maybe that could happen here. I doubt it though, so I'm not gonna get my hopes up.
 
False Start said:
I still in the back of my mind hold out a slight hope that he may come to play for the Texans. I just think back to Nate Clements signing with the 49ers when they weren't worth a damn. It was all about the money with that deal obviously, so maybe, just maybe that could happen here. I doubt it though, so I'm not gonna get my hopes up.
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where is the fun in that?
 
badboy said:
[/B]where is the fun in that?
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You're right. lol

I just don't want to get too excited thinking that it could be strong possibility. It would be like going on a blind date, being told shes drop dead gorgeous, and then when she shows up she weighs 3 bills, has buck teeth, and is wearing a belly shirt. :hankpalm:
 
With all this talk about McNair being so damn cheap, maybe we should get him to run for President. :)
 
Thorn said:
With all this talk about McNair being so damn cheap, maybe we should get him to run for President. :)
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In a complete 180 first order of business is to make his case for international aid and then rule the owners winners.
 
False Start said:
You're right. lol

It would be like going on a blind date, being told shes drop dead gorgeous, and then when she shows up she weighs 3 bills, has buck teeth, and is wearing a belly shirt. :hankpalm:
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:spit:

I'm hopeful that something happens this off season, at the very least make a decent run at some players. If not it would be nice if they would just come out and say they aren't rather than give us all this hope and then just snatch it away from us.
 
Pft:

despite a feeling in pittsburgh that ike taylor was likely to return to the team, florio credited a source recently that said taylor planned to test the free agent market.

Taylor made that strategy pretty clear during a wednesday appearance on jim rome is burning, saying he wouldn’t take a hometown discount.

“i need that market value. I work so hard,” taylor told rome. “i’ve been through so much, i feel so unappreciated, feel so underrated at my position, i feel like it’s my time to get my worth, in whatever city that’s in.”

the nine-year veteran was very pragmatic in the interview and hoped to stay in pittsburgh, but he knows the steelers track record with free agents well.

“i would love to [return to pittsburgh], but they usually sign player a year before [free agency], so we’ll see what happens,” taylor said.

Taylor could wind up getting big money from a team that falls short in the nnamdi asomugha sweepstakes.
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Translation: I'd really like Pittsburgh to pay me more than they are currently offering, so I'm going to see what the Texans would pay and then use that to leverage more money out of the team I'd like to play for.
 
gtexan02 said:
Translation: I'd really like Pittsburgh to pay me more than they are currently offering, so I'm going to see what the Texans would pay and then use that to leverage more money out of the team I'd like to play for.
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Or sign with Pittsburgh for what has been offered regardless of what Texans offer.
 
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