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NFL Total Access: Texans to pass on Bush?

Kaiser Toro said:
And many of you thought that it was not plausible.
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Funny stuff, isn't it?

It was funny to watch Vince-mania kick up such a storm for months on end before finally, slowly, and ever so gradually subsiding with the realization that we weren't going to draft hometown, "never loses at anything" UT demigod VY. Now this story, and the Bush-or-bust crowd is ****ting kittens. Funny stuff.

I still think we will end up going Bush, but have been saying this for weeks now and I will still not be "shocked" if we don't. Either way, it looks like our FO is doing a good job.
 
HoustonianStuckinCali said:
I'm not trying to be a dick here....but its posts like these and sentences like that last one that make all the people who wish we could find a way to get VY on this team (me included) seem completely oblivious. A lot of VY supporters are getting pigeon-holed because of this type of reasoning and posts.


I don't mean to be a dick neither, read the entire post before you make an asinine comment like that. My reasoning is very astute the Texans can not playing with the schedule they play be above 500. Therefore teams when that are in a rebuilding phrase ex. Packers 2005 draft, draft a franchise Quarterback instead of the most pressing need. The Texans have too many holes to fill. A solid left tackle, a solid Defensive End (pass Rusher) Weakness in the Line backing core. A team with that many holes can not possibly in one draft fix them selves. So what do they do. Do you think the 49rs last year most pressing need was QB the answer is no before you think any further into it. Vince will be drafted by the Texans because it makes Financial since for the team to do that. You draft a Marquee Quarterback not just because he will turn the franchise around but simple and plain Vince will sell tickets and if you can't have a winning season at least pack house. And the Texans know that Vince given a complete team around him will bring that eventual victory back to Houston.
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I'm sorry, but if Kubiak is going into the season thinking we are only going to win 5 games, and have no chance of being .500, then we got the wrong guy. We always play the Colts tough, for the first half anyway, then they get away from us. In 2004, we scored over 24 quite often, and I think we had a team capable of averaging near 30 points a game(28). Minus the OLine. If we get that thing fixed, then we can hang with the Colts, especially, if we can improve our pass rush, or allow Dunta and Buchanon focus on their main responsibility.

If we improve the OL, and improve our D, say get us into the top 15, we can definitely beat the Colts.
I'd never count the Jags as losses before the season starts either. They don't have a running game, and we don't know how their QB controversy is going to go. Tennessee has a few things they need to iron out, if they don't play much better than last year, I can see a sweep. I'd say we come out the division 4-2.

We're going to beat Dallas........ 5-2.
We're going to beat Philly......... 6-2.
NYG ain't all that. we'll stop Tiki Barber, 50 yards total....... 7-2
Washington....... depends on who their QB is by the time we meet them. But I think we can win that game............. 8-2.

We are going to beat the Jets....... 9-2
Miami........... iffy, I'll give it to Miami...... 9-3
Oakland..... Aaron Brooks, Randy Moss.... no defense.... 10-3
Cleveland........ who's on that team again?? 11-3
Buffalo............. umm........... 12-3
New England.............. 12-4


In all Honest, we might loose a game to the Titans........ 11-5
We might loose that game to the Cowboys(away game after the Bye)....10-6
Philly.......... 9-7, and the 'Skins....(Joe Gibbs)...... 8-8

But we may also sweep the Colts........ they may be caught up in trying to figure out what they did wrong in 2005???

& we might beat New England, they've lost a big part of their Nucleus.... Brady may start to look human.

And this is with our team as of today.
 
If Reggie Bush and his agent want QB money if he's drafted #1, and that's part of the reason the Texans are considering not drafting him, then he should get in his head that if he's drafted later on in the draft,he'll be getting even less money. If they want a ridiculous amount of money, then I can see why the Texans don't want to draft him. But from what I've heard on the radio, the Texans are just about to start negotiations with Reggie Bush.

Should we draft Mario Williams, I think we should try to move down. Heck, just move down to the 2nd draft pick and see if the Saints will part with their 2nd rounder. I don't see it happening, but anything's plausible.

One last thing. If any of you read Peter King's Monday Morning Quarterback on SI.com, he says you can't trust anything that a GM or someone inside the organization says at this point in time. He said media members are used a lot this close to the draft. I do believe this is a smokescreen. No one knows what's going on behind the scenes. We may get little hints and such, but all we can do is wait and see. If we draft Mario Williams and aren't able to or decide not to trade down, I'll be slightly dissappointed, but we're still getting a beast of a player.
 
TexanSam said:
If Reggie Bush and his agent want QB money if he's drafted #1, and that's part of the reason the Texans are considering not drafting him, then he should get in his head that if he's drafted later on in the draft,he'll be getting even less money. If they want a ridiculous amount of money, then I can see why the Texans don't want to draft him. But from what I've heard on the radio, the Texans are just about to start negotiations with Reggie Bush.

Should we draft Mario Williams, I think we should try to move down. Heck, just move down to the 2nd draft pick and see if the Saints will part with their 2nd rounder. I don't see it happening, but anything's plausible.

One last thing. If any of you read Peter King's Monday Morning Quarterback on SI.com, he says you can't trust anything that a GM or someone inside the organization says at this point in time. He said media members are used a lot this close to the draft. I do believe this is a smokescreen. No one knows what's going on behind the scenes. We may get little hints and such, but all we can do is wait and see. If we draft Mario Williams and aren't able to or decide not to trade down, I'll be slightly dissappointed, but we're still getting a beast of a player.
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I think the Bush camp has a number in mind, and they'll hold out til they get it.
 
Just in case no one gets the big picture, the Texans have just gone into the 2minute drill for the draft and have the leverage. Right now, in my opinion, the Bush team better help orchestrate a trade with the Jets and Texans to help subsidize the type of jack they are hoping for. Bush's value is through the roof from an endorsement standpoint if he can play in NY and own the west coast. His agents know that and it could concievably happen that we pick him and then trade him to the Jets on draft day. This has always been my best case scenario and do feel that we are heading in that direction.
 
Possible smokescreen concerning trade with Jets... (from KFFL)

Jets | Team staying at No. 4?
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Randy Lange, of the Bergen Record, reports talk early in the offseason was that the New York Jets might be interested in trading up with either the Houston Texans at No. 1 or the New Orleans Saints at No. 2, but with two weeks until the NFL Draft, the word is that they are not looking to trade up.
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Dr. Toro said:
I think the Bush camp has a number in mind, and they'll hold out til they get it.
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Let's say the Texans pass on him. They draft Mario Williams with the #1 pick and give him $41 million over 5 years. Now let's pretend Bush is asking for $44 million over 5 years. There's no way Bush would get that by the 2nd team drafted. He better enjoy his Subway ads if he's planning on holding out. I don't think he will, but it's possible. I wonder what his agent's track record is with players and holdouts.
 
If Kubiak wants either of the 3......VY not included, he will draft him at #1. Bush, Williams & Fergie will be the top 3 picks......any of the three teams would love to have either of the three players.

The Saints need OL & DL help but really need a RB.....they signed Brees, so I doubt the draft a QB with pick #2. The Jets need OL, RB, QB, DL help, so they will stay put and get whichever (Leinart included) falls to them at #4.

The Titans have the #3 pick and need a QB...Leinart is the odds-on fav to come in an be ready (with Volek as the starter for a few more years until the QB controversey begins).

So here is my top 4 (assuming no one moves out of position):

1. Texans - Mario Williams
2. Saints - Reggie Bush
3. Titans - Matt Leinart
4. Jets - Fergie
 
TexanSam said:
Let's say the Texans pass on him. They draft Mario Williams with the #1 pick and give him $41 million over 5 years. Now let's pretend Bush is asking for $44 million over 5 years. There's no way Bush would get that by the 2nd team drafted. He better enjoy his Subway ads if he's planning on holding out. I don't think he will, but it's possible. I wonder what his agent's track record is with players and holdouts.
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Stuff like that happens in baseball all the time. Backs generally don't get QB money, but the hype surrounding Bush makes this a different deal. I imagine Vick still woulda got his money if the Chargers passed on him due to signability. Negotiating with Bush is kinda like negotiating with Clemens, his demands are justifiable given the impact at the gate/franchise value. From the Texans side, tying up 50 mil. in an unproven running back might be unwise. Reasonably, the parties could find themselves at an impasse. My hunch is that the Jets pick #1.
 
How do the Saints need a RB? They have one of the best RBs in the league with Deuce McAlister and just gave him a $60 million contract. They are going to tie up $100+ million dollars at one position?
 
Well, Deuce has proven to have the injury bug......besides, you can never have too many good RBs! They did draft Deuce in the first round when they had Ricky Williams.

So then flip the Saints and the Jets!
 
I think all we are doing is taking advantage of the time we have to do contract negotiations that other teams do not have. This allows us to set all kinds of smoke screens to increase the value of our pick while finding out who is going to be easier to negotiate with. It also helps in the event we trade down and one of those players falls to us.
 
MikeMc said:
Well, Deuce has proven to have the injury bug......besides, you can never have too many good RBs! They did draft Deuce in the first round when they had Ricky Williams.

So then flip the Saints and the Jets!
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Right...Bush, Davis and Morency sounds good to me.
 
TexanSam said:
Let's say the Texans pass on him. They draft Mario Williams with the #1 pick and give him $41 million over 5 years. Now let's pretend Bush is asking for $44 million over 5 years. There's no way Bush would get that by the 2nd team drafted. He better enjoy his Subway ads if he's planning on holding out. I don't think he will, but it's possible. I wonder what his agent's track record is with players and holdouts.
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Just FYI, you are a good 10M south of what either Bush or Williams would receive at the #1.
 
610 just talked about the article and they didn't seem to think to much of it. Even Rich.

The main think I took from it was Rich saying that Schefter's story consists of an anonymous quote from Bush's camp that Schefter ran with. They seem to think this is opinion.
 
Battle Red Bull said:
610 just talked about the article and they didn't seem to think to much of it. Even Rich.

The main think I took from it was Rich saying that Schefter's story consists of an anonymous quote from Bush's camp that Schefter ran with. They seem to think this is opinion.
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Technically I'm in the Bush camp as well:ok:
 
This is all just part of the smokescreen that Cass and Kubiak have been trying to create since they hired Kubiak. The minute they show favortism to any player, the less flexible the Texans can be in fielding trade down scenarios.

We all agreed that the options seemed limited when we exercised our option on Carr. We basically are just using the flavor of the day (i.e. Mario) to create intrigue and offers for the #1. N.O. has all the power because they are such an unknown.

I personally like the intrigue created and hope that someone gets froggy and jumps up the ladder to #1 to make sure they get the player they want.
 
[[Gary Kubiak]] said:
I would like Mario to anchor our D? Why we need another RB when DD and morency are here? :stirpot:
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DD has injury problems
Morency has virtually no experience
We just gave Weaver a big contract
We have about 4DEs right now
We have 2 RBs
 
I think some may be looking at RB the wrong way. It's not that we need a running back, but rather that we NEED a playmaker on offense and that is what he would bring to the table. His being on the field I think will also impact in a very positive way what AJ and others will be able to do. I have been in the trade down camp for most of the off season, but even I can see that Reggie would open up the options on the offense and help in more ways than just him being a running back. I suspect that the first sesion with Segal didn't go well as they probably threw some sort of rediculouse price and the FO is now working to drive it down. I still doubt that we don't take Bush IF we stay at #1.
 
PokerStar said:
I would like to see an objective post for Young, because maybe my view of him skewed and I just dont see him as any better than a mid first rounder. I admit though that I have read posts about him and looked at his stats, but he still does not impress me and I would like an objective look at him. I looked at the prospect profiles on NFL.com and Young is not rated very well.
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Now I'll be the first to admit that I am the last guy to give you an objective post on Vince Young. I love the guy, and I ain't scurred to say so.

But if you look at the two QBs expected to go first in this draft, you'll see one guy has weeknesses that can be improved..... Pro Style offense, you can teach a guy that. 3 step drop, 4 step drop, WCO, read defense, throwing motion, foot work........ you can teach all of those. This guy, has shown not only a desire to win, but to work hard to improve his game. Not saying that Matt hasn't. But if you were to ask who was the most improved QB from 2004, to 2005, you'd have to say it was Vince Young. 2004 Rosebowl..... he dominated that game, he wowed us, and entertained us with his legs... 2005, his arm was just as dangerous.

You look at the other guy........ Arm strength....... you'd think a little training can fix this, but for some reason, once a guy get's tagged as weak armed, it sticks(Pennington was on his way to overcoming this, not that his arm was getting stronger, but a quick release, and excellent distribution made NYJ's passing game very effective. Then he got hurt...... which brings up.....) Health concerns............

Matt doesn't have a history of being hurt, but there is something about him, that makes me question how long he will play....... I have no facts to back this up, but I know I'm not the only one.

Leadership, & Poise......... no one is saying Matt is lacking in either of these fields....... but Vince has demonstrated a level of Poise/leadership that many are saying is off the charts...

So, since the 2006 RoseBowl....... the National Championship. Through all the drama, and Vince Young mis-steps, his stock has actually risen. Partly fuelled by N.O.'s signing of Drew Brees, Matt's has dropped..... Who wants Matt?? I don't know. But the word now, is Vince. Tenessee, NYJ, GreenBay(even though they just drafted a 1st round QB) Oakland, Arizona......... all in the mix for Vince.

Now I'm not saying there is a conspiracy against Vince, nothing like that. It's a lot simpler, and more complicated at the same time.

Matt's the safe pick, the most NFL ready....... all the reporters, seem to zero in on this, and pushed every mock to show it that way.

But on one wants the safe pick....... the safe pick generally doesn't change the direction of your team.... and there are alot of teams looking for a new direction this year.

Reggie Bush isn't the safe pick, he's the most explosive pick. He isn't like any other Runningback before him, while many see that as a plus, it also means he isn't the prototypical 1st round runningback type. D'angelo, Addai, Moroney...... those are your safe picks.... not better, but safer. IMHO, the only person in the league who can get the most out of Reggie Bush, is Mike Martz..... no one else, is quirky enough to design, and teach an offense that will fully utilize a talent like Reggie Bush.

Like I said, not objective, but I'm going to say it is.
 
Djjoeyv said:
well then you trade down to get him. Name 1 DE that went #1 that made an impact on the team?
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I can name 3:
Bruce Smith
Ed "Too Tall" Jones
Bubba Smith

Name the RBs that went #1 overall that made an impact:
Billy Sims
Earl Campbell
OJ Simpson

Am I missing a point somewhere?
 
Huge said:
I can name 3:
Bruce Smith
Ed "Too Tall" Jones
Bubba Smith

Name the RBs that went #1 overall that made an impact:
Billy Sims
Earl Campbell
OJ Simpson

Am I missing a point somewhere?
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yes.
 
Dr. Toro said:
Stuff like that happens in baseball all the time. Backs generally don't get QB money, but the hype surrounding Bush makes this a different deal. I imagine Vick still woulda got his money if the Chargers passed on him due to signability. Negotiating with Bush is kinda like negotiating with Clemens, his demands are justifiable given the impact at the gate/franchise value. From the Texans side, tying up 50 mil. in an unproven running back might be unwise. Reasonably, the parties could find themselves at an impasse. My hunch is that the Jets pick #1.
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If I said this............ stuff........... about Vince Young, all you guys would have a cow........ literally. ReggieBush, Like negotiating with Clements?? come on..........

not even.

Vick wouldn't have got his money, if he the team with the #1 pick would have used that pick on someone else.



tulexan said:
How do the Saints need a RB? They have one of the best RBs in the league with Deuce McAlister and just gave him a $60 million contract. They are going to tie up $100+ million dollars at one position?
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Duece has missed more games than DD, and DD get's more All Purpose yards.... Duece has played 2 more years than DD, and has 1334 rushing yards to show for it. That's 667 per year...... DD is going to kill that.

In all his 5 years, Duece has amassed 1379 recieving yards. DD, 1276..... 2 years differnce, 103 yards........

But we need a Running back, and N.O. don't?? N.O. can pass on Reggie, but we can't??

I'm not seeing the logic here.

[[Gary Kubiak]] said:
I would like Mario to anchor our D? Why we need another RB when DD and morency are here? :stirpot:
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Imagine getting Mario, D'Angelo, and a Winston Justice with the picks we'd get

edo783 said:
I think some may be looking at RB the wrong way. It's not that we need a running back, but rather that we NEED a playmaker on offense and that is what he would bring to the table. His being on the field I think will also impact in a very positive way what AJ and others will be able to do. I have been in the trade down camp for most of the off season, but even I can see that Reggie would open up the options on the offense and help in more ways than just him being a running back. I suspect that the first sesion with Segal didn't go well as they probably threw some sort of rediculouse price and the FO is now working to drive it down. I still doubt that we don't take Bush IF we stay at #1.
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We've signed FA DEs, MLBs, OLman, QB, and what not. So believe there is no need to reach for need in the Draft. We don't need a DE, We don't need a QB(never did really??), We don't need a TE, and we don't need a MLB...

Playmaker??

We've got Moulds, Cook, Putz, and Mathis..... we don't need a playmaker.... it would be nice to add another, but we don't need one. the O is already open, with two pass catching threats in the backfield, a TE you can split out wide, and 2 #1 recievers........ 2 probowlers mind you.
 
Stats don't tell the whole story. The difference between Deuce McAlister and Domanick Davis are night and day. Davis has never had a season like Deuce had in '03 and never will. I don't expect Davis to run for 100+ yards for 9 straight games like Deuce did or have 3 consecutive games where he rushed for at least 165 yards. And he did this while being the only weapon on the team. Deuce will return to form next season and continue to be a top 5 back in the league. Davis will return to mediocrity, rush for 1000 yards give or take 100 yards.

Deuce has had some injury problems the past few years but they are unrelated. I believe his last injury was a knee injury and the injury before that was a high ankle sprain.
 
Well. with Carr, Davis, Moulds, AJ, Putzier and the revamped Offense.....I think the O will finally come together this year. The whole unit will be make plays.

The key is to have an improved D. The DEs the Texans have are Weaver (solid), Kalu & Peek (pass rush specialists) and Babin (adequate). Kalu will not be here long....so there is a need for a DE opposite Weaver.

DT seems to have the best depth/talent. Smith, TJ, Payne, DeLoach, Ioane, and any of the the three youngsters (J Davis, E Harris, or A Malone) form a solid three deep rotation.

LB is also a problem area on D. There are about 15 players to form a 3 position LB crew...and only 3 or 4 are even worthy of making the roster....the others are either inexperienced, lack talent, are injury-prone, or no longer fit the LB role a 4-3 defense commands. I will presume the Texans will draft 2 LBs to help fill the depth/talent/ need at OLB & ILB. Most of this year's crop of ILB start coming off the board in Round 3.....so the Texans will have their pick (or trade down) with back -to- back picks in the 3rd round.

The secondary has question marks, but it has some talent and depth to work. If the front 7 can pressure the QB, the DBs will have an easier job and their flaws will not be as noticeable in 2006.
 
tulexan said:
Stats don't tell the whole story. The difference between Deuce McAlister and Domanick Davis are night and day. Davis has never had a season like Deuce had in '03 and never will. I don't expect Davis to run for 100+ yards for 9 straight games like Deuce did or have 3 consecutive games where he rushed for at least 165 yards. And he did this while being the only weapon on the team. Deuce will return to form next season and continue to be a top 5 back in the league. Davis will return to mediocrity, rush for 1000 yards give or take 100 yards.

Deuce has had some injury problems the past few years but they are unrelated. I believe his last injury was a knee injury and the injury before that was a high ankle sprain.
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Well, the knee and ankle are part of his leg...so I would say they are related. You try running on that concrete floor they call turf in NO...you will have leg problems too! Hell, his college turf at Ole Miss was 100X better to run on than the Toilet Dome floor!

Joe Horn and Brooks will be mad that you did not give them props! They were part of his success.....do not forget one of the best OL in the league for the past 6 years.....prior to Turley's melt-down!

Davis has done everything he has with a sub=par OL, a QB that could not make reads (because of lack of time), and basically 8-9 men in the box to stop DD. Deuce had the luxury of having the opposing defense have to respect the passing game!

Maybe DD will have the year in 06 that Deuce had in 03.....then we will all say, Reggie who? Sort of like CHI is saying "Ced who???" after Thomas Jones had a solid year in 05.

"A Dom Davis in the Backfield is worth two in the Bush"!
 
Uh oh -- Reggie works out for the Jets...
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Amid speculation that the Houston Texans will not select Reggie Bush with the top pick in the 2006 NFL draft, the New York Jets on Tuesday morning undertook a bit of creative due diligence, perhaps preparing for the still-unlikely possibility that the Southern California tailback might be available to them.

ESPN.com has learned that Jets officials, following their previously scheduled meeting with Bush in Los Angeles, asked if he would participate in an impromptu workout for them. And Bush, on very short notice, acquiesced to the request and ran some pass routes for the Jets as part of the team's on-field session with USC quarterback Matt Leinart.

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tulexan said:
Stats don't tell the whole story. The difference between Deuce McAlister and Domanick Davis are night and day. Davis has never had a season like Deuce had in '03 and never will. I don't expect Davis to run for 100+ yards for 9 straight games like Deuce did or have 3 consecutive games where he rushed for at least 165 yards. And he did this while being the only weapon on the team. Deuce will return to form next season and continue to be a top 5 back in the league. Davis will return to mediocrity, rush for 1000 yards give or take 100 yards.

Deuce has had some injury problems the past few years but they are unrelated. I believe his last injury was a knee injury and the injury before that was a high ankle sprain.
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Duece had the same Offensive line that many here believe gave Aaron Brooks a better Reason to Succeed than David Carr........ By right, that gives Duece a better line, period........ run blocking, pass blocking..... through his Carreer, Duece has run behind LeCharles Bently, Charles Grant, and Wayne Gandy, and still DD is close on his heals, playing 2 less seasons....

Stats don't mean anything I guess, unless they're Reggie Bush's stats......... our poor team means nothing, unless we are defending the QB.....
 
The Super Dome has a field turf surface just like every other dome in the league. I don't see how it is substantially worse than any other indoor field. And Deuce hurt his knee this year when he wasn't playing in New Orleans.

I don't think that a knee injury is related to an ankle sprain. If you can tell me how the ACL is related to spraining your ankle please do.

The reason why I didn't mention Brooks is because he didn't justify being mentioned. He is the prime example of stats not telling the whole story because he usually puts up good stats but never produces in the clutch.

And again, our run blocking was not that bad. There is a big difference between pass blocking and run blocking and we had bad pass blocking and good run blocking. You don't have to be good at one to be good at the other. Arizona had a pretty good pass blocking line but a bad run blocking line.
 
Tale Gator said:
Uh oh -- Reggie works out for the Jets...
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Amid speculation that the Houston Texans will not select Reggie Bush with the top pick in the 2006 NFL draft, the New York Jets on Tuesday morning undertook a bit of creative due diligence, perhaps preparing for the still-unlikely possibility that the Southern California tailback might be available to them.

ESPN.com has learned that Jets officials, following their previously scheduled meeting with Bush in Los Angeles, asked if he would participate in an impromptu workout for them. And Bush, on very short notice, acquiesced to the request and ran some pass routes for the Jets as part of the team's on-field session with USC quarterback Matt Leinart.

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Did you read the rest of the article? Especially the part that said that Segal and the Texans have spoken today and that they will start negotiations later this week?
 
thunderkyss said:
Duece had the same Offensive line that many here believe gave Aaron Brooks a better Reason to Succeed than David Carr........ By right, that gives Duece a better line, period........ run blocking, pass blocking..... through his Carreer, Duece has run behind LeCharles Bently, Charles Grant, and Wayne Gandy, and still DD is close on his heals, playing 2 less seasons....

Stats don't mean anything I guess, unless they're Reggie Bush's stats......... our poor team means nothing, unless we are defending the QB.....
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And when did Duece put up any meaningful yards when Joe Horn, Aaron Brooks, Boo Williams, or Dante Stallworth weren't in the Game??

DD is getting it done, with David Carr, CoreyBradford, no TE, AJ in or out, Gaffney as our #1, and sub 200 yard passing games.
 
tulexan said:
Did you read the rest of the article? Especially the part that said that Segal and the Texans have spoken today and that they will start negotiations later this week?
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The Jets have eyes for Bush that much is clear.
 
thunderkyss said:
And when did Duece put up any meaningful yards when Joe Horn, Aaron Brooks, Boo Williams, or Dante Stallworth weren't in the Game??

DD is getting it done, with David Carr, CoreyBradford, no TE, AJ in or out, Gaffney as our #1, and sub 200 yard passing games.
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Deuce:

http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/235228/gamelogs/2003


Aaron:

http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/133233/gamelogs/2003


Deuce consistently had great games while Aaron was his typical inconsistent self. I noticed a lot of sub 200 yard passing games during Deuce's 9 game 100+ yard rushing streak.
 
thunderkyss said:
DD is getting it done, with David Carr, CoreyBradford, no TE, AJ in or out, Gaffney as our #1, and sub 200 yard passing games.
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If you pimp DD too much you will summon the wrath of Fiddy.

:jk:
 
Tale Gator said:
The Jets have eyes for Bush that much is clear.
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Every team in the league is interested in Reggie. The only question that remains now is whether or not some kind of monster trade can be arranged. The first pick of this draft will be for Reggie Bush. The real question is.... can anyone offer McNair and Kubes a huge enough deal that will result in a trade down. I would not be opposed to us taking a sizable offer, but it would have to be huge.
 
TexansLucky13 said:
Every team in the league is interested in Reggie. The only question that remains now is whether or not some kind of monster trade can be arranged. The first pick of this draft will be for Reggie Bush. The real question is.... can anyone offer McNair and Kubes a huge enough deal that will result in a trade down. I would not be opposed to us taking a sizable offer, but it would have to be huge.
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"Ditka" type you might say...:)
 
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