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NFL offers to work with players’ union to study marijuana for pain management

PapaL

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Could the league be changing its stance on medicinal cannabis?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...union-to-study-marijuana-for-pain-management/

IRVINE, Calif. — The NFL has written to the NFL Players Association offering to work in tandem to study the potential use of marijuana as a pain management tool for players, according to people familiar with the situation.

It is the clearest indication to this point that the league may be willing to work cooperatively with the union toward such marijuana use, which is currently banned by the sport.

The NFLPA is conducting its own study and, according to those familiar with the deliberations, is yet to respond to the NFL’s offer to cooperate on marijuana-related research.

“We look forward to working with the Players Association on all issues involving the health and safety of our players,” said Joe Lockhart, the NFL’s executive vice president of communications.

The NFLPA did not immediately respond to a request for comment.
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There are essentially 2 different strains of marijuana. One contains high levels of cannabidiol, or CBD, one of the two main molecules in marijuana; the other is tetrahydrocannabinol, or THC. While THC is famously mind-altering, CBD is not. CBD is already used to treat epilepsy as well as a range of other illnesses, including anxiety, schizophrenia, heart disease and cancer. Which form of marijuana the NFLPA is seeking will tell the story of if its players are genuinely interested in treating their pain or just seeking a "high."
 
CND - In your professional opinion, is this a better option than all the pain pills NFL players are pumped with?
 
PapaL said:
CND - In your professional opinion, is this a better option than all the pain pills NFL players are pumped with?
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Narcotics in general have great addictive potential. There are narcotics out there used for pain control that are available today are are considered 30 to 100 times stronger than heroin, which has long been thought to be one of the most addictive narcotic drugs. These properties, even in lesser powerful narcotics, especially when used for chronic pain, have made narcotics a source of ~50,000 overdose deaths per year. CBD is a strong anti-inflammatory and analgesic. It is also considered safe to consume, with no known side effects and no known addictive properties. These statements can only be assured if they are prescription pharmaceutical forms which are closely regulated for purity of CBD. Street marijuana is typically not a very efficient pain reliever in that it is very high in addictive TCH and very low in CBD.
 
Prescription CBD as used by cancer centers are ~98% CBD and 0%THC. In comparison, you might find this interesting. In old-school dope, levels of THC were typically well below 10 percent. But, according to 3rd party lab assessment, in Colorado's legal marijuana, the average THC level is 18.7 percent, and some retail pot contains 30 percent THC or more. It was reported common to see samples in the high 20's. At the same time, of the 600-plus weed samples generally carried, little or no cannabidiol, or CBD — the compound that makes medical marijuana “medical.” The average CBD amount detected?......... 0.1 percent.
 
If they want it for pain, by all means great, grow the f*ck up let them treat their pain.

If they want it for a buzz, likewise great, grow the f*ck up let them treat themselves recreationally.
 
Mollywhopper said:
If they want it for pain, by all means great, grow the f*ck up let them treat their pain.

If they want it for a buzz, likewise great, grow the f*ck up let them treat themselves recreationally.
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Unfortunately, what the public doesn't understand is that just because that which is labelled "medical" marijuana (not purified CBD prescription) and may contain higher CBD content, it doesn’t mean that it has low THC content. All the state-legalized marijuana growers are trying to disingenuously sell their product as "medical" when they have little or no medicinal benefits whatsoever.
 
Mollywhopper said:
If they want it for pain, by all means great, grow the f*ck up let them treat their pain.

If they want it for a buzz, likewise great, grow the f*ck up let them treat themselves recreationally.
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Yep. The hypocrisy of a system that allows alcohol manufacturers to advertise and sponsor pro sports while acting like a bunch of dimwits about pot is staggering.

CloakNNNdagger said:
Unfortunately, what the public doesn't understand is that just because that which is labelled "medical" marijuana (not purified CBD prescription) and may contain higher CBD content, it doesn’t mean that it has low THC content. All the state-legalized marijuana growers are trying to disingenuously sell their product as "medical" when they have little or no medicinal benefits whatsoever.
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There is proven medical benefit of stress and anxiety relief from THC at lower levels.
 
Double Barrel said:
Yep. The hypocrisy of a system that allows alcohol manufacturers to advertise and sponsor pro sports while acting like a bunch of dimwits about pot is staggering.



There is proven medical benefit of stress and anxiety relief from THC at lower levels.
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I'm familiar with that study. The only way to ensure 7.5 mg of TCH in a capsule is through tightly controlled production methods, basically only available through licensed major pharmaceutical manufacturers which are overseen by well-respected certified 3rd party labs. And no one can ensure the exact standardized content delivery of smoking products. Besides, I'd love to see someone smoke just "2 puffs."

As far as the "hypocrisy," I can hardly disagree..........other than that would only add just one more questionable substance to a list that then will probably grow in time to the addition of the next.
 
Mollywhopper said:
I've known/encountered numerous people over the years who smoke pot in exactly this manner, as they don't want to get knocked sideways and would rather just catch a relaxing, comfortable effect.

Not everyone rolls like Snoop.
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I guarantee you that this (2 puffs) is an exception. And let me emphasize that the NFLPA is speaking about wanting to allow marijuana solely for pain management. The study that Double Barrel quoted, not unexpectedly, did not demonstrate any findings that would promote pain relief.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
I guarantee you that this (2 puffs) is an exception. And let me emphasize that the NFLPA is speaking about wanting to allow marijuana solely for pain management. The study that Double Barrel quoted, not unexpectedly, did not demonstrate any findings that would promote pain relief.
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ya get the good chit and two will do :specnatz:
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
I guarantee you that this is an exception. And let me emphasize that the NFLPA is speaking about wanting to allow marijuana solely for pain management. The study that Double Barrel quoted, not unexpectedly, did not demonstrate any findings that would promote pain relief.
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You guarantee this how? I've smoked pot for 20+ years running in many different circles of people and have experienced it as a pretty strong cross section of folks I've either known well, known as acquaintances, or just met in passing. I dont guarantee to know the exact percentages country wide, but I do guarantee my experiences aren't an odd exception either.
 
Mollywhopper said:
You guarantee this how? I've smoked pot for 20+ years running in many different circles of people and have experienced it as a pretty strong cross section of folks I've either known well, known as acquaintances, or just met in passing. I dont guarantee to know the exact percentages country wide, but I do guarantee my experiences aren't an odd exception either.
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Yep, my anecdotal evidence reveals the same. Smoke too much and you end up comatose in an easy chair and just want to take a nap.

Neil Young was interviewed by Dan Rather on his The Big Interview show last year, and he talked about regularly smoking pot with Willie Nelson. Very interesting insight by a musician that is pretty much respected by everyone. He's not a guy that has ever had his work ethic or focus questioned and is widely considered a musical genius. If that dude can be a daily smoker (and I'd assume the good stuff), I just don't see a case being made that it is a destructive addiction or any type of "gateway" for harder stuff. If anything, it keeps a lot of folks off of booze and the opioids.

Too much Reefer Madness misinformation still out there, probably a lot of it from Nancy's stupid "just say no" propaganda that still reverberates to this day.

What the discussion should really come down to is responsible use vs. irresponsibility, and that is for anything. Food, sex, pot, gambling, video games, whatever.

I completely respect and value CloakNNNdagger's professional perspective as a doctor. It is understandable. That said, I think this is one subject that anecdotal evidence by literally millions of folks has to account for something.
 
CND's professional medical opinion isn't up for criticism here. This is far more a social/cultural question.
 
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I ran ACID RESCUE in St. Louis back in college. Unless something has drastically changed, 2 "puffs" could have meant anything from a short inhale to an extremely long hard drag. That was usually on a blunt. When joints were involved, it was very uncommon for the user not to smoke the whole thing. Variance in tolerance, and the concentration of weed THC is also a factor that can't be overlooked.

But again, going back to the NFLPA discussion, pain control should be a mute point.
 
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I would also like to chime in and report that 2-3 puffs was the norm for me. I never smoked out of social settings and in social settings it was always puff puff pass
 
infantrycak said:
No offense, but people at a rehab clinic can hardly be taken as typical.
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ACID RESCUE was not a rehab clinic. It was a city-wide HOTLINE that some of my friends and I founded, where we spoke to hundreds of callers every week discussing, educating and answering questions about drugs and weed (which was in extremely common use then).......and was a well-known emergency response line for drug/weed users. It was an experience that allowed exposure to all levels of use, but a large segment of contacts were those of "casual" users.
 
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