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NFL Collective Bargaining Agreement

CloakNNNdagger

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This subject will be heating up shortly, and will likely increasingly burn through 2020. If things go like in the past, the players will focus mostly on the money and the owners will go for getting more out of the players in the form of more regular season games. The coaches will press for more mandatory practice time and possibly more time with players during the lull period before and after the Draft. Pensions and health-related issues will still be a point of discussion. Neither side will get everything they want, but the players are likely to end up shorter if they again short-sightedly negotiate with only dollar signs in their eyes.............the owners will always win that battle. As fans, we can only hope that the 2021 season is not disrupted while millionaires try to fight it out with billionaires.
 

CloakNNNdagger

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It will be interesting to see if concessions will be made by the owners regarding the use of marijuana

From the WASHINGTON POST:

NFLPA tells players of agreement with league on changes to NFL’s drug and disciplinary policies
By
Mark Maske
Jan. 16, 2020 at 7:27 p.m. CST


The NFL Players Association told its members in a memo Thursday that it has reached tentative agreements with the league and owners on some issues, including “significant modifications” to the league’s drug and disciplinary policies, in negotiations on a new collective bargaining agreement. Some differences still must be resolved for the CBA to be completed.

That prospective CBA could include a 17-game regular season, a reduced preseason and an expanded playoff field as proposed by the NFL, according to the memo sent to players by DeMaurice Smith, the NFLPA’s executive director.

“While we remain committed to the bargaining process, the major issues separating us are significant enough that we cannot recommend to our membership that we should accept a deal in this state at this time,” Smith wrote in the memo, a copy of which was obtained by The Washington Post and other media organizations.
 

CloakNNNdagger

Hall of Fame
Couldn't agree more.

The NFL season/post-season is as perfect a format as has ever been in sports. Bummer if it's f*cked with.
The only biggie I see is the full price that has to be paid for preseason games...........and the hostage situation that season ticket holders face if they don't want to pay for the preseason games. I already know a number of people that have given up their season tickets just for that reason, and bought separate packages or select games. And I believe that the NFL is seeing a trend of fans seeing the "fan experience" and better one and much cheaper one if mostly experienced from the couch.
 

CloakNNNdagger

Hall of Fame
Chargers' Russell Okung: Players 'Better Off Having 14 Days to Recover' Between Games


Jason B. Hirschhorn
a day ago

COSTA MESA, Calif. -- After a year that included a life-threatening pulmonary embolism diagnosis, becoming a father for the first time, and a serious evaluation of his football mortality, Los Angeles Chargers left tackle Russell Okung has ambitious plans for his offseason.

"Right now, I'm excited to start reading again and really challenging myself to be a better learner," Okung says. "I'm going to spend the next couple of weeks getting back to academia and training my brain to think critically about certain things. But a lot of my energy is going into what's going on with the NFLPA and our negotiations with management."

Okung has spent much of his professional career concerned with the structure of the NFL and the welfare of players. He made waves in 2015 when he opted to represent himself in free agency, negotiating his contract with the help of a lawyer rather than pay a percentage of his earnings to an agent. That trend continues to grow, with stars like the San Francisco 49ers' Richard Sherman and the Seattle Seahawks' Bobby Wagner also ditching the player-agent model and subsequently inking lucrative deals of their own.

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Texecutioner

Hall of Fame
This subject will be heating up shortly, and will likely increasingly burn through 2020. If things go like in the past, the players will focus mostly on the money and the owners will go for getting more out of the players in the form of more regular season games. The coaches will press for more mandatory practice time and possibly more time with players during the lull period before and after the Draft. Pensions and health-related issues will still be a point of discussion. Neither side will get everything they want, but the players are likely to end up shorter if they again short-sightedly negotiate with only dollar signs in their eyes.............the owners will always win that battle. As fans, we can only hope that the 2021 season is not disrupted while millionaires try to fight it out with billionaires.
One of their biggest negotiations should be to get that wording out of the CBA that the3 NFL can punish them any way they see fit under what they believe is true or not to be true. They need to have time tables for the NFL decisions on how long a player can be held under an investigation for the exemption list as well. The NFL has shown way to many times how unfair that CBA was for their ability to judge and execute punishments even if they want to claim people guilty with no evidence what so ever. Deflategate showed the entire league that the NFL can rule with an iron fist and there is nothing anyone can do about it. Brady won in court, and because of that wording in that one section none of it mattered. The NFL could do whatever it wants.

I also hope the players fight for the 17th game. That is something the fans are to stupid to voice their voices on. I've never heard a fan say that they were in favor of that. The season probably should have never even been 16 games. They probably should have kept it at 14 a long time ago.
 

IDEXAN

Hall of Fame
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I would like to see quarterback salaries after rookie contract to be reined in somehow. 1 guys should not take up 1/3 of the salary cap in a year . Due to short average career time for many positions those need to be addressed. Perhaps increase the veteran minimum?
I'm surprised Badboy because I figured you for a free-marketer, or in other words let each organization make its own decision about how much of its cap space to expend on each and every player on it's roster ?
 

Mr teX

Hall of Fame
Biggest thing i would like to see is them eliminate preseason alltogether imo. These guys have a finite amount of time to make it happen from a career and season length standpoint as well. Most of the starters don't even play in these games & some of the ones that do inevitably get hurt. Aside from that, the thing those games are used for (selecting fringe guys to fill out depth) usually winds up changing throughout the season anyway.

No need to add 2 more games, I think the 16 game season is perfect. But 2 weeks of joint practices and scrimmages are probably more productive than the entire 4 preseason games combined. Owners could get their revenue from that instead.
 

Mr teX

Hall of Fame
I would like to see quarterback salaries after rookie contract to be reined in somehow. 1 guys should not take up 1/3 of the salary cap in a year . Due to short average career time for many positions those need to be addressed. Perhaps increase the veteran minimum?
All you'd have to do is 100% guarantee salaries like the other big 3 leagues do and that would curtail alot of that. I think too, it would stop alot of teams from paying & giving 2nd and 3rd chances to alot of these knuckleheads................Looking at you Mr. Antonio Brown.
 

OptimisticTexan

6 Years- 1 Game and Counting!!!!
I'd like to see rosters brought up to a full 60 man squad who is both dressed and available for every game. Game is becoming to physical to not look at adding those active gameday players.
 

CloakNNNdagger

Hall of Fame
The NFL is proposing a 17 game regular season.......the NFLPA is not thrilled..........even with financial incentives and decreased preseason games. In fact, the NFLPA is working towards more reductions to the offseason program and training camp. The vets already hardly participate in preseason games. I can hardly wait to see the quality of the games in the upcoming regular season (especially in the 1st half of the season), if the NFLPA gets what it wants.
 

KoolAid Sipper

Waterboy
All you'd have to do is 100% guarantee salaries like the other big 3 leagues do and that would curtail alot of that. I think too, it would stop alot of teams from paying & giving 2nd and 3rd chances to alot of these knuckleheads................Looking at you Mr. Antonio Brown.
NFL owners have to put all guaranteed monies in escrow up front. I don't think they would like fully guaranteed salaries for all. I wonder if the other Big 3 leagues do that.
 

Texecutioner

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Biggest thing i would like to see is them eliminate preseason alltogether imo. These guys have a finite amount of time to make it happen from a career and season length standpoint as well. Most of the starters don't even play in these games & some of the ones that do inevitably get hurt. Aside from that, the thing those games are used for (selecting fringe guys to fill out depth) usually winds up changing throughout the season anyway.
Not gonna happen. THey're just going to eliminate one pre season game and make it a regular season game at 17 or maybe even 18. I hate the idea of it, but they're trying to squeeze out more revenue. Its high on their priority list. They'll get this done, and I won't be happy about it.
 

Texecutioner

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NFL owners have to put all guaranteed monies in escrow up front. I don't think they would like fully guaranteed salaries for all. I wonder if the other Big 3 leagues do that.
Yeah, you'd have to be out of your mind to do that in the NFL when it has already shown that the salary cap is what makes the league the most competitive and creates the strongest incentive for the players to work hard on their contracts. The inflation of guaranteed contracts are part of what ruined the competitiveness in the NBA to where a ton of its popularity fell really far.
 

Carr Bombed

Hall of Fame
All they need to do is add two franchise player designations, that would allow teams to have one player on each side of the ball whose contracts dont effect the cap.. Then players can still get their money and you won't have two players wrecking your entire cap.
 
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JB

Old Curmudgeon
Contributor's Club
Here's a crazy idea...

I'd like to see it remain a 16 game season with each teams games at least 10 days apart (2 weeks on most weeks), give fans a longer season and players longer time to heal between games. NFLPA should be all for it and the IR list much shorter. Have to remove the blackout rule as well... every game televised nationally. Revenue would actually go up (expenses down?) and fans could watch more games.
 

OptimisticTexan

6 Years- 1 Game and Counting!!!!
Not gonna happen. THey're just going to eliminate one pre season game and make it a regular season game at 17 or maybe even 18. I hate the idea of it, but they're trying to squeeze out more revenue. Its high on their priority list. They'll get this done, and I won't be happy about it.
I'd go to a 2 game Pre-Season schedule as a weeding out process.

18 regular season games.

Keep the current playoff format.

If the owners want a 18 game schedule, then there should be 60 players active and dressed for each game. Teams would need the extra bodies to take the wear and tear off their starters.
 

Double Barrel

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I'm for less preseason and more regular season, even if just one more game. I like that 17 game seasons will never have .500 teams. Your season is either a winning one or a losing one.

I wish they'd just get rid of conferences. 8 division winners and 4 wildcard teams with the best records. Do not expand beyond 12 teams in the playoffs, though. Just waters it down and allowing up to half the league to be in the playoffs is weak.
 

Speedy

Yeller Dweller
All I know it that pre-season is more of a joke now than it's ever been now that most of the action takes place in scrimmages, and not the games.

Entire pre-season snap counts this year:
Watson - 15
Hopkins - 15
Fuller - 0
Miller - 2
Watt - 9
Joseph - 16
Reader - 7
Reid - 0

Other than easy money for the owners, pre-season games are pretty pointless now that teams mostly scrimmage a couple of times a week against another team. The actual pre-season game needs to go away. Hell, I'd rather show up for a 3 hour scrimmage where I know the starters are going to see some action, instead of paying full price to watch a bunch of guys who won't have jobs soon. But still not in favor of paying full price for it.

Also, I'd dump Thursday night games. With player safety so much on the forefront, playing on Thursday night makes absolutely zero sense. Players have virtually no time to recover. Unless you have a bye week before the Thursday game, that needs to go away.

And I know it isn't going away, but not a fan of the international games.

I don't mess with the playoff format they have. I think that's perfect just the way they have it. And though it may seem unfair that an 8-8 team can win a division and make the playoffs while a 10-6 team stays home, because of scheduling, I don't really think there's anything different you can do there.
 

Double Barrel

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I don't mess with the playoff format they have. I think that's perfect just the way they have it. And though it may seem unfair that an 8-8 team can win a division and make the playoffs while a 10-6 team stays home, because of scheduling, I don't really think there's anything different you can do there.
I agree, but I would not automatically give division winners a home game. You still get a guaranteed playoff spot, but seeding would be by record. That would make teams still compete at the end of seasons to win games if a home game was still contested (tied records would go to the division winner, so 10-6 Houston would still have hosted the 10-6 Bills).
 

badboy

Hall of Fame
I'm surprised Badboy because I figured you for a free-marketer, or in other words let each organization make its own decision about how much of its cap space to expend on each and every player on it's roster ?
I have shocked folks before. I'm conservative in most ways but "liberal" in others. I believe in caps as way to have a some control but doesn't stop stupid contracts. I've worked 1/3 my career as labor 2/3 management. I was fulltime business agent for labor union but was "counselled" as not filing enough grievances. I want people to earn as much as possible but stupid $ is crazy. The problem is who decides what stupid is. It took way to long for NFL to begin to assist retired/injured but I understand those players didn't help themselves much....
 

steelbtexan

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Not gonna happen. THey're just going to eliminate one pre season game and make it a regular season game at 17 or maybe even 18. I hate the idea of it, but they're trying to squeeze out more revenue. Its high on their priority list. They'll get this done, and I won't be happy about it.
I'm happy about this as a season ticket holder. I wish they would have an 18 game regular season with 2 bye weeks and a 60 man roster.
 

thunderkyss

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I would like to see quarterback salaries after rookie contract to be reined in somehow. 1 guys should not take up 1/3 of the salary cap in a year .
I'd rather they exempt QB salaries, or one franchise player. I actually thought that was how the original tag was going to work.
 

CloakNNNdagger

Hall of Fame
Will NFL players agree to 17-game regular season schedule?
8:52 AM CT
  • Chris Mortensen
  • Adam Schefter

There is a real possibility the players will ask their negotiating team to see whether the owners are willing to consider other concessions, both financially and in further reducing the overall workload in training camp and the preseason, which could be shortened to two or three games.

According to sources, some of the highlights of the CBA proposal:

• The NFL will have an option to establish a 17-game regular season that would not kick in until at least the 2021 season, with the option tied to new revenues in pending TV and media contracts.

• If there is an agreement in place before the new league year in March, the new deal would take effect immediately for the 2020 season, bumping up the players' share of revenues immediately under a 16-game format.

• The players will receive an annual fixed share in the 48 percent range of an anticipated larger revenue pool and also greater spending minimums for clubs.

• The 2020 season also would likely include an extra playoff game, pending the owners' approval at the annual league meetings in March.

• Changes to the league's drug policy would nearly eliminate punishments to players who test positive for marijuana.

• The on-field discipline fine schedule will be modified significantly in the players' favor.

• The players would gain increases to benefits to former players, including a continuation of the legacy fund.


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OptimisticTexan

6 Years- 1 Game and Counting!!!!
I'd rather they exempt QB salaries, or one franchise player. I actually thought that was how the original tag was going to work.
It'd be nice to see the QB drafted and kept by the drafting team receive an exemption on his salary. I'd like to see the Franchise Tag treated as a separate issue and that salary also be exempt for the season.
 

badboy

Hall of Fame
I'd rather they exempt QB salaries, or one franchise player. I actually thought that was how the original tag was going to work.
The idea of excluding QB and possibly a defender player would be interesting but IMO would lead to even more astronomical deals with lower income teams being forced out of market. Perhaps if the guaranteed money was someway capped. Players union would object but as most veterans annual is locked in each season..maybe it could work?

Note of interest 5th year options May 2018 & 2019 12 teams did not take the option. https://www.pff.com/news/pro-nfl-teams-decline-fifth-year-options-for-12-players-set-stage-for-prove-it-years-in-2019

Only 6 guys tagged 2019.
 

CloakNNNdagger

Hall of Fame
Looks like Rapoport let something slip when talking about Mahomes upcoming new contract. First he says that the Chiefs will be getting Mahomes signed this offseason. Then he says that Mahomes' signing is not expected until after the new CBA will be consumated. Read between the lines.


This would also tell me that Tunsil's contract and even Watson's contract are likely to be also signed in the offseason.
 

CloakNNNdagger

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Report: NFL has given NFLPA a “rough deadline” of March 18 to accept pending proposal
February 6, 2020, 9:24 AM EST


The NFL and NFL Players Association have negotiated an acceptable labor deal. The NFLPA now must officially accept it, or reject it. And the clock is ticking.

According to Adam Schefter of ESPN.com, the league has given the union a “rough deadline” of March 18 for accepting the current proposal, premised on a 17-game regular season. If the offer isn’t accepted, talks will be tabled indefinitely.

The message is clear: The league is taking the position that the deal isn’t getting any better, so don’t come back and ask for more. Take it or leave it. And if you leave it, a lockout may happen in 2021. The lockout likely will last until the players accept a 17-game arrangement while on the brink of missing game checks.

So if the players will eventually take the best offer on the table before losing any real money, why not take the best offer that’s on the table now? That’s the question that the NFLPA needs to address when the Executive Committee and the board of player representatives meet today in, per multiple reports, Los Angeles.

It’s a simple flow chart. If the players do not want 17 games and are willing to endure a lockout that extends into the 2021 regular season, reject the offer. If the players eventually will take a 17-game deal before missing games, take the deal now so that the league can execute new TV deals before the presidential election takes a chunk out of the 2020 ratings and a potential recession puts a crimp in budgets.
 

OptimisticTexan

6 Years- 1 Game and Counting!!!!
Take the deal but NFLPU should be insisting on more players dressing on Sunday so there's a better rotation to help cut down on the wear and tear of an additional game. I want to see 60 men dressed on the sideline, which means a 7 player bump on the roster and 13 more players to rotate. Sorry, if the name of the game is to protect players......then this would be the move to make b/c equipment is probably at its most effective right now.
 

Texecutioner

Hall of Fame
Take the deal but NFLPU should be insisting on more players dressing on Sunday so there's a better rotation to help cut down on the wear and tear of an additional game. I want to see 60 men dressed on the sideline, which means a 7 player bump on the roster and 13 more players to rotate. Sorry, if the name of the game is to protect players......then this would be the move to make b/c equipment is probably at its most effective right now.
They could care less about protecting the players.
 

JB

Old Curmudgeon
Contributor's Club
Take the deal but NFLPU should be insisting on more players dressing on Sunday so there's a better rotation to help cut down on the wear and tear of an additional game. I want to see 60 men dressed on the sideline, which means a 7 player bump on the roster and 13 more players to rotate. Sorry, if the name of the game is to protect players......then this would be the move to make b/c equipment is probably at its most effective right now.
NFLPA will never go for that as long as there is a salary cap. More players means less money for all
 

OptimisticTexan

6 Years- 1 Game and Counting!!!!
NFLPA will never go for that as long as there is a salary cap. More players means less money for all
Based on the money they're currently throwing around......the cap will have to be visited at some point. Might as well kill two birds with one stone. It won't be long before each team will be relegated to 2 stars on both sides of the ball and the rest being fill-ins and drafted players. Owners only have themselves to blame for this mess. Their desire to sign some other teams developed stars far outweighed their business acumen and common sense. They are 100% at fault for driving salaries to this point.
 
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JB

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Based on the money they're currently throwing around......the cap will have to be visitors at some point. Might as well kill two birds with one stone. It won't be long before each team will be relegated to 2 stars on both sides of the ball and the rest being fill-ins and drafted players. Owners only have themselves to blame for this mess. Their desire to sign some other teams developed stars far outweighed their business acumen and common sense. They are 100% at fault for driving salaries to this point.
HUH? :confused:

What mess? The owners not hurting, and as long as the media market and contracts keep growing, they won't be. Your reply has nothing to do with my stance that you quoted, but if you want to debate that stance we can
 

CloakNNNdagger

Hall of Fame
According to ESPN's Dan Graziano, the NFLPA has scheduled eight calls—one for each division—in an attempt to inform and hear from as many voices as possible ahead of the vote.

No deadline has been set by the owners for the players to hold the vote. However, the passage of a longer season is seen as a crucial step in negotiations, as the owners are steadfast in their desire for it.

In return for agreeing to an extended regular season and expanded postseason, NFL owners are willing to make a series of concessions including less punitive punishments for marijuana violations, higher minimum salaries, more restrictions on team offseason training programs and a revenue split above the 48 percent the players are currently receiving.

The 17-game season has become a large point of contention, as players are weary of the extra damage to their bodies throughout the year. The owners, however, feel this is an opportunity to greatly boost revenue when the league's broadcast rights deal is up for renewal in 2022. A larger deal, of course, would also include more money for the players under the proposed CBA.

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"More restrictions on team offseason training programs"..........how many more restrictions can be applied without diminishing the quality of the product even further once the season begins?
 

CloakNNNdagger

Hall of Fame
More window dressing by the League to appease the NFLPA without giving the appearance of giving in totally to the NFLPA ...............doing away with marijuana use in the NFL without doing away with marijuana use.

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New CBA would shrink annual marijuana testing window to two weeks
February 15, 2020, 2:50 PM EST

Currently, the window for the NFL’s annual marijuana testing opens on April 20 (yep, 4/20) and lasts until early August. Which means that players who hope to stay on the right side of the program need to get clean roughly a month before 4/20 and stay clean until they’re tested, with the test coming as late as August.

The new CBA, if accepted by the players, would reduce the duration of the testing window dramatically. Per multiple sources, the window for annual testing would be open for only two weeks.

This reduces significantly the amount of time each year that players would have to refrain from using marijuana, if they aren’t already in the program (and thus subject to enhanced testing).

As one source explained it, a new CBA also would include dramatically reduced penalties, with suspensions happening only in the event of extreme and repeated disregard of the policy or significant violations of applicable law regarding the possession and use of marijuana.

So while it won’t be legalized within the NFL’s internal judicial system, it will be largely decriminalized — and the effort to catch violators will be dramatically curtailed.

It’s unclear when the two-week window will open. It’s much better to get it out of the way early in the offseason program. If the two-week period comes during training camp, that will force players who want to not test positive to refrain from using during the final few weeks before the grind returns.
 

CloakNNNdagger

Hall of Fame
The proposed CBA would give 1st round picks a route to avoid the fifth-year option as currently calculated. If a 1st round pick is voted to the Pro Bowl twice in his first 3 seasons, the amount of the 5th year option would boost compensation the level of the franchise tag for his position.
 

CloakNNNdagger

Hall of Fame
The CBA is going to be signed soon, because any prolonged bickering over a 17 game season and other points going later into this year or even next offseason will mean a great relative loss of TV monies, as such significantly delaying/decreasing monies to the players..................and in the end, like in 2011, the players will not jeopardize a single game check for 2021.............so do now what you will have to do later anyway.

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TV negotiations continue to hover over CBA talks
February 17, 2020, 4:28 PM EST


The NFL and NFL Players Association are working toward a new Collective Bargaining Agreement not because a new league year is coming but because something far more significant is in the pipeline: A new round of TV deals.

A recent item from Andrew Beaton of the Wall Street Journal echoes concepts that have been articulated here, on PFT Live, and on #PFTPM in recent weeks. The league and the union want to get a labor agreement in place so that the league can then turn to extending the various broadcast-rights contracts, before the NFL’s bargaining position in that context is weakened by a ratings dip fueled by the presidential election, by an economic downturn, or both.

That’s the core wisdom of NFLPA executive director DeMaurice Smith’s ongoing effort to get the Executive Committee (which seems to be on board), two thirds of the board of player representatives (which remains not an easy sell), and at least half of the rank and file plus one (which will likely go along if/when it comes to it) to accept the pending CBA proposal premised on 17 games. Smith knows from experience in 2011 that the players ultimately won’t miss game checks. Which means that the players ultimately will take the best deal that’s on the table on the brink of the 2021 preseason/regular season. Which means that the players should just take the best deal that’s on the table now.

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Mollywhopper

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Looks like it's only a matter of time now until we have a 17 game schedule and 7 playoff teams per conference with only each number 1 seed getting a bye.

And I absolutely loathe both of these ideas.

The NFL schedule and playoff format is the only perfect one in all of sports. Was, was the only perfect one in sports. F*ck we just can't have nice things..
 

CloakNNNdagger

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Looks like it's only a matter of time now until we have a 17 game schedule and 7 playoff teams per conference with only each number 1 seed getting a bye.

And I absolutely loathe both of these ideas.

The NFL schedule and playoff format is the only perfect one in all of sports. Was, was the only perfect one in sports. F*ck we just can't have nice things..
More playoff teams expected under new NFL CBA, sources say

5:45 PM CT
Adam SchefterESPN Senior Writer

If and when a transformational collective bargaining agreement is finalized -- and there is now mounting optimism it could be done sometime in the next week -- it is expected to change the NFL's playoff structure as it is currently constituted for next season, league sources told ESPN.

Under the current CBA proposal that NFL owners are pushing for, the playoff field would be expanded to seven teams from each conference, while the regular season would be increased to 17 games per team and the preseason shortened to three games per team, sources said.

As part of the proposed playoff format, only one team from each conference would receive a first-round bye as opposed to the two that currently do, league sources said. That would mean a revised postseason schedule that includes six games on wild-card weekend, with three on Saturday and three on Sunday.

The changes to the NFL's playoff format would take effect for the 2020 season, assuming the new CBA is ratified beforehand. Had the proposed format been in place this past season, the Los Angeles Rams and Pittsburgh Steelers would have been the next teams included in the expanded playoff field.

"That's been agreed to for a long time," one source familiar with the CBA talks said about the NFL's new playoff structure. "There wasn't a lot of disagreement to that issue."
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OptimisticTexan

6 Years- 1 Game and Counting!!!!
IMHO, there should be one caveat......the 7th team and modified format should only be in play if the last team is at .500 or better.
 


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