New proposed nfl rules changes

[Playoffs]

What exactly is the problem with the extra point? Why are we trying to get rid of it?

This was a 3/2014 thread I bumped with the below stats...

Kevin Seifert @KevinSeifertESPN

Startling figures for project I’m in...

2006: 69.4 pct of QB dropbacks came from under center.
2014: 21.9. Nearly 4 of 5 in shotgun/pistol.

Probably should have posted those elsewhere. Unintentionally an old debate.

 

[Marshall]

It's TV that keeps that from happening. Let's say that Houston & Dallas are in the same division, and therefore both broadcast by the same network. If I'm in Houston, there's a big chunk of Dallas games that I'll be unable to see on TV. Since there are a good amount of Dallas fans in the Houston area, that would hurt TV ratings. Same goes for the Niners/Raiders in the same division. I think it's fixing something that's not broken.

Just change the contracts to require broadcast or lose the right to exclusive rights. In other words, if you have the right to broadcast and don't, the signal may be sold to another who will broadcast it. No exclusionary rights for non broadcast games.

 

[TD]

That is the rule for missed field goals. Aaron Glenn once returned one for a TD when with the Jets.

After it hit the net? My understanding is once it passes the end-line it is a dead ball. In Arena football the net is part of the playing field and its live on every miss.

 

[infantrycak]

After it hit the net? My understanding is once it passes the end-line it is a dead ball. In Arena football the net is part of the playing field and its live on every miss.

No I meant short attempts that are fielded in the endzone. I've seen several fall well short this season and nobody is back there.

 

[Lucky]

Just change the contracts to require broadcast or lose the right to exclusive rights. In other words, if you have the right to broadcast and don't, the signal may be sold to another who will broadcast it. No exclusionary rights for non broadcast games.

I don't understand what you're getting at. These are $20 billion contracts that are negotiated in a very specific way to ensure maximum viewers and maximum profit. If the NFL thought there was a way to get bigger TV #'s, and bigger $$$ from networks, they'd be doing it.

 

[Marshall]

I don't understand what you're getting at. These are $20 billion contracts that are negotiated in a very specific way to ensure maximum viewers and maximum profit. If the NFL thought there was a way to get bigger TV #'s, and bigger $$$ from networks, they'd be doing it.

Th right to exclude unbroadcast games shouldn't affect the value of the contract in any significant way. It is either a throw in or afterthought which prevents fans from following their team. The right to broadcast is the value in those contracts and if they choose not to broadcast, then their right should be forfeited.

 

[TD]

Th right to exclude unbroadcast games shouldn't affect the value of the contract in any significant way. It is either a throw in or afterthought which prevents fans from following their team. The right to broadcast is the value in those contracts and if they choose not to broadcast, then their right should be forfeited.

The value is "If you want NFL, watch what we show you or nothing". Take that away and the contract value is dramatically reduced.

 

[Marshall]

The value is "If you want NFL, watch what we show you or nothing". Take that away and the contract value is dramatically reduced.

I guess the market would decide since we can't agree on the value of exclusion.

 

[TD]

I guess the market would decide since we can't agree on the value of exclusion.

Right now, the networks value it greatly. The only way to find out how much would be in either contract negotiations or give the network the ability to sell the rights to individual games they own, but don't broadcast. But complicating that is DirecTV whom I assume wouldn't be too happy regardless. And don't forget losing the ability to switch from blowout games. There are a lot of variables.

 

[Playoffs]

WHAT TO EXPECT FROM THE COMPETITION COMMITTEE MEETING

This week in Naples, Fla., we will reconvene to take an even closer look at the proposals that came out of the Indianapolis meeting, along with ways we can improve upon our processes and standards for the upcoming season. This year we’ve had nearly a dozen rule change suggestions and we’ll want to make sure we address all of the concerns of our key stakeholders, so we’ll comb through video of hundreds of plays, analyzing and vetting these possible changes with coaches and GMs and with the Coaches Subcommittee.

Some of the changes we’re considering:

• Modifying what is reviewable under instant replay
• Exploring processes and procedures of how a medical timeout would work
• Discussing banning the chop block
• Ensuring that the review process covers what was called on the field and does not create new fouls
• Refining the definition of a hit on a defenseless player
• Adding an eighth official
• Making the extra point more challenging
• Using tablets on the sideline and for video replay and moving closer to our “sideline of the future” by adopting new technology
• Continuing to enhance our concussion protocol
• Increasing our standards for equipment that may make our game safer
• We have two main objectives when considering changes to the rules: protecting our players from unnecessary risk and providing clarity and consistency in the way we administer the game.

Accordingly, there are two areas that are of particular interest to me as we explore the next steps in the evolution of player health and safety—the concept of a medical time out and removing the chop block from the game...

 

[JB]

WHAT TO EXPECT FROM THE COMPETITION COMMITTEE MEETING

I thought the chop block was already illegal?

 

[Playoffs]

Troy Vincent @TroyVincent23

NFL Competition Committee also discussed how we can improve our international games in London

We also reviewed the NFL roster system – an auxiliary list, expansion of the game roster, and how we handle Thursday night rosters

Today, @NFL Competition Committee continues discussions of player safety, technology & more
http://operations.nfl.com/football-ops/nfl-ops-honoring-the-game …

 

[badboy]

I thought the chop block was already illegal?

As you probably know, it depends on how the two blockers are striking the defensive player. Texans have used it for some time but I'd like to see it banned, too easy to cost a player his career.

 

[infantrycak]

As you probably know, it depends on how the two blockers are striking the defensive player. Texans have used it for some time but I'd like to see it banned, too easy to cost a player his career.

You're confusing chop block and cut block. The Texans have never had a use of chop blocks.

 

[ObsiWan]

You're confusing chop block and cut block. The Texans have never had a use of chop blocks.

Which is why I was like JB; I thought chop blocks were already considered a type of clipping.
From Wiki...

In gridiron football, a chop block is an attempt by an offensive player to cut block (block at the thigh level or lower) a defensive player who is being blocked above the waist by another offensive player. In the National Football League (NFL), a chop block is legal on running plays when (i) the blockers were aligned next to each other on the line of scrimmage, (ii) the blockers were lined up anywhere on the line and the flow of the play is towards the block or (iii) the cut blocker was aligned in the backfield and the chop block took place outside the original tight end position.[1] The cut blocker is said to "chop" the defender and usually engages simultaneously with or immediately after the high block. A "reverse chop" occurs when the high block comes immediately after the low block and the same rules apply.

In the NFL, college and high school football, the penalty for an illegal chop block is 15 yards.[2] They were first banned in the NCAA in 1980.[3] Chop blocks are illegal in the NFL on passing and kicking plays, as well on any play with attempted pass blocking or kick protection but which are actually running plays. It is also an illegal chop block if a player "lures" a defender by "pass-blocking posture" while another player chops him. The continued legality of chop blocking, as of all low blocks, is controversial. Partisans of the offensive line see it as a traditional run blocking technique, while those of the defensive line see it as unnecessarily dangerous.

 

[Brisco_County]

You're confusing chop block and cut block. The Texans have never had a use of chop blocks.

And to add to that, the Texans have never caused injury with a cut block. That's important to remember when a Texan suffers a knee injury and another ignoramus says, "The Texans did that to other teams for years!"

 

[Playoffs]

In gridiron football, a chop block is an attempt by an offensive player to cut block (block at the thigh level or lower) a defensive player who is being blocked above the waist by another offensive player.

In the National Football League (NFL), a chop block is legal on running plays when

(i)the blockers were aligned next to each other on the line of scrimmage,
(ii) the blockers were lined up anywhere on the line and the flow of the play is towards the block or
(iii) the cut blocker was aligned in the backfield and the chop block took place outside the original tight end position.​

The cut blocker is said to "chop" the defender and usually engages simultaneously with or immediately after the high block. A "reverse chop" occurs when the high block comes immediately after the low block and the same rules apply...

Legal in the above 3 circumstances... for now.

 

[Double Barrel]

Troy Vincent @TroyVincent23

NFL Competition Committee also discussed how we can improve our international games in London

We also reviewed the NFL roster system – an auxiliary list, expansion of the game roster, and how we handle Thursday night rosters

Today, @NFL Competition Committee continues discussions of player safety, technology & more
http://operations.nfl.com/football-o...oring-the-game …

I really do not understand the logic of the 8 man inactive list every week. A team has a 53 man roster, and everyone is expected to study, workout, practice, and travel with the team, but then 8 players are excluded from the game every week? They still get paid. I just don't get it, and neither does N.D. Kalu.

 

[ObsiWan]

I really do not understand the logic of the 8 man inactive list every week. A team has a 53 man roster, and everyone is expected to study, workout, practice, and travel with the team, but then 8 players are excluded from the game every week? They still get paid. I just don't get it, and neither does N.D. Kalu.

Nor do I.
Why leave 4.5% of your roster unavailable to you? Seems flat out dumb to me.
Always has.

 

[CloakNNNdagger]

I really do not understand the logic of the 8 man inactive list every week. A team has a 53 man roster, and everyone is expected to study, workout, practice, and travel with the team, but then 8 players are excluded from the game every week? They still get paid. I just don't get it, and neither does N.D. Kalu.

Nor do I.
Why leave 4.5% of your roster unavailable to you? Seems flat out dumb to me.
Always has.

The purpose of the Inactives List when it was first established as I understand it was to maintain as much parity of teams from week to week as possible. It has mostly to do with injuries. For example, if one team has 4 injured players too banged up to play and the opposing team has all healthy players, the thinking is that it may significantly affect the competition.

 

[badboy]

You're confusing chop block and cut block. The Texans have never had a use of chop blocks.

The block they use is one I am referring to as not liking despite it's legality.

 

[Marshall]

I like the adjustment to the extra point attempt back to the 25 yard line.

If you're going to change it, why not go all the way and make it one point for every ten yards of additional length making the extra point strategy a significant factor throughout the game.

2 yd line = 1 points (19 yd FG)
12 yd line = 2 points (29 yd FG)
22 yd line = 3 points (39 yd FG)
32 yd line = 4 points (49 yd FG)
42 yd line = 5 points (59 yd FG)
52 yd line (op 48 yd line) = 6 points (69 yd FG)

Now the XP distance decision becomes a factor immediately and not just a late game strategy.

And just for grins you could eliminate everyone except the kicker by using the kicking tee and perhaps a holder in windy conditions. Perhaps you can just move it back a yard to make it even yardage placing the tee at the 10, 20, 30, 40, 50, 60 (40) yard lines.

If you're going to make a change, then make a change!

Now this puts the FOOT back in FOOTball.

 

[Speedy]

If you're going to change it, why not go all the way and make it one point for every ten yards of additional length making the extra point strategy a significant factor throughout the game.

2 yd line = 1 points (19 yd FG)
12 yd line = 2 points (29 yd FG)
22 yd line = 3 points (39 yd FG)
32 yd line = 4 points (49 yd FG)
42 yd line = 5 points (59 yd FG)
52 yd line (op 48 yd line) = 6 points (69 yd FG)

Now the XP distance decision becomes a factor immediately and not just a late game strategy.

And just for grins you could eliminate everyone except the kicker by using the kicking tee and perhaps a holder in windy conditions. Perhaps you can just move it back a yard to make it even yardage placing the tee at the 10, 20, 30, 40, 50, 60 (40) yard lines.

If you're going to make a change, then make a change!

Now this puts the FOOT back in FOOTball.

Seriously, just make the PAT a dropkick. That makes it less automatic (which is, to my understanding, why this is even an issue) without making a bunch of crazy changes that make it look Arena League or XFLish.

Hell, seeing as how there were only 6 FGs missed, out of 257 tried at 30 yards or less, I'd make all FG attempts 30 yards or less a dropkick as well.