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New Orleans - Split off from Vince Announcing thread

LikeABoss, publicly held means they have something called stockholders. The stockholders have a board of dirrectors that vote on team business. Privately held (most franchises) means that they are owned by an individual. Privately held franchises have an owner that makes all the decisions, because they can.









Of all the reasons that make the Green Bay Packers and their story so incredible and unique, the most significant is simply this: The team is literally owned by its fans.

Presently, 111,921 people (representing 4,749,925 shares) can lay claim to a franchise ownership interest.

Shares of stock include voting rights, but the redemption price is minimal, no dividends are ever paid, the stock cannot appreciate in value, and there are no season ticket privileges associated with stock ownership. No shareholder is allowed to own more than 200,000 shares, a safeguard to ensure that no one individual is able to assume control of the club.

The team has had three owners, all in its first four years, 1919-22. The first owner, Indian Packing Company, paid an unofficial purchase price of $500 to supply Curly Lambeau with uniforms and equipment. In turn, Lambeau and team manager George Calhoun called the club "Packers."

Shortly thereafter, Acme Packing Company bought Indian Packing Company and all its assets, including the fledgling team. In 1921, Lambeau convinced new owners John and Emmitt Clair to apply for membership in the new American Professional Football Association (early NFL).

With the team already headed for bankruptcy, the APFA revoked the franchise after Lambeau used illegal college players in a non-league game later that year. But before the 1922 season, Lambeau by himself reapplied and the league reinstated the Packers, with Lambeau as owner. When rain threatened to sink the team in '22, A.B. Turnbull came to the rescue.

Turnbull, publisher of the Green Bay Press-Gazette, grocery man Lee Joannes, attorney Gerald Clifford and Dr. W. Webber Kelly cancelled Lambeau's $2,500 debt, then rallied the community behind the team. In August, 1923, with more than 400 in attendance at a local Elks Club, the club was transformed into a non-profit entity, the Green Bay Packers Corporation. The five men, including Lambeau, were nicknamed the Hungry Five.

There now have been four stock drives in the 86-year history of the team. The first stock sale, which took place at that 1923 meeting, saw local merchants raise $5,000 by selling 1,000 shares for $5 apiece, with a stipulation that the purchaser also had to buy at least six season tickets.

The second, in 1935, raised $15,000 after the corporation had gone into receivership. At that point, the non-profit Green Bay Football Corporation was reorganized as the Green Bay Packers, Inc., the present company, with 300 shares of stock outstanding.

The third, in 1950, came on the heels of founder Curly Lambeau's 30-year dominion, when the club's officers arranged to amend the corporation's bylaws to permit the sale of up to 10,000 total shares of stock (opening up more than 9,500 shares for purchase), to limit the number of shares that any individual could own. The team also increased the number of directors from 15 to 25.

The response to the '50 drive was inspiring, with people from all across Wisconsin, as well as former Green Bay residents living in other states, coming forward to buy the $25 shares of stock. Roughly $50,000 was raised in one 11-day period alone. Reportedly, one woman from a farm near Wrightstown, Wis., showed up at the team's offices with $25 worth of quarters in a match box. A total of about $118,000 was generated through this major stock sale, helping to put the Packers on a sound financial basis once again.

The fourth came late in 1997 and early in 1998. It added 105,989 new shareholders and raised more than $24 million, monies which were utilized for the Lambeau Field redevelopment project. Priced at $200 per share, fans bought 120,010 shares during the 17-week sale, which ended March 16, 1998.

With the NFL supporting the plan, the existing 1,940 shareholders overwhelmingly voted to amend the articles of the corporation on Nov. 13, 1997. The vote authorized the Packers to sell up to 1 million shares to raise funds for capital improvements, and received a 1,000 to 1 split on their original shares. Fans immediately were able to call a special toll-free number, or tap into the team's Web site for information on how to buy the 400,000 shares made available to the public.

The initial response to the recent stock offering was staggering. In the first 11 days, roughly one-third - or $7.8 million - of the total amount transacted was sold. Paid orders poured in at a rate of 3,500 per day during this early period, generating about $700,000 each day. The sale hit its high point during the first week of December as fans purchased shares as holiday gifts.

Shares of stock were purchased by citizens from all 50 states, in addition to fans in Guam and the U.S. Virgin Islands. Over half (or roughly 64,300) of the new shares during the 1997-98 offering were bought by Wisconsin residents, followed by inhabitants of Illinois (9,600), Minnesota (4,300), California (3,700), Florida (2,900), Michigan (2,800), Texas (2,500) and Ohio (2,000).

Today, an annual meeting of stockholders is held in July - most recently at Green Bay's new Resch Center. As a means of running the corporation, a board of directors is elected by the stockholders. The board of directors in turn elect a seven-member Executive Committee (officers) of the corporation, consisting of a president, vice president, treasurer, secretary and three members-at-large. The president is the only officer who receives compensation. The balance of the committe is sitting gratis.

Shares of stock cannot be re-sold, except back to the team for a fraction of the original price. Limited transfer of shares (ie., to heirs and relatives) is permissible.

Based on the original 'Articles of Incorporation for the (then) Green Bay Football Corporation' put into place in 1923, if the Packers franchise was sold, after the payment of all expenses, any remaining monies would go to the Sullivan-Wallen Post of the American Legion in order to build "a proper soldier's memorial." This stipulation was enacted to ensure that the club remained in Green Bay and that there could never be any financial enhancement for the shareholder. The beneficiary was changed from the Sullivan-Wallen Post to the Green Bay Packers Foundation on the basis of a shareholder vote at the November 1997 meeting.


http://www.packers.com/history/fast_facts/stock_history/
 
Long-Spurs-Texan said:
Yes, the Saints fans have shown that they can pack a stadium like no other. They all have excellent hands, accepting near free tickets. As far as "fans rallying", huh? Lemme see, I'll take the 4 tickets for $40 instead of rebuilding my house. Right. I for one would like to see the government determined to do something that makes sense, like feeding & housing people. Screw football.


Actually, tickets have NEVER been given away or discounted in New Orleans. The only time that has EVER happened was in SAN ANTONIO. Tickets were discounted half-price when sales were low, 8,000 were given away to people in the first game, and over 10,000 were bought by businesses in San Antonio for the last game (no way would that continue).
 
MorKnolle said:
I don't think Tagliabue needs to convince Benson to move the team, Benson seems to be the #1 advocate of moving, and Tagliabue and the league are the ones that wanted to keep the team in New Orleans.


The only problem is that Los Angeles wants a local owner and all reports say they don't want Benson. Benson says he won't sell (there have already been three confirmed groups in Louisiana with enough funds offering to buy the Saints to keep them in Louisiana). The league would more than likely block the move to San Antonio (completely lateral move). Benson could take the league to court, but several lawyers have already commented on how Benson wouldn't have a leg to stand on (check out the Times-Picayune archives). This isn't the same case as the Al Davis vs. City of Los Angeles. If the Saints are supported, and many think they will be, they aren't going anywhere. The government in Louisiana said they can't afford to lose the Saints and will do everything to keep them. The Saints finished 12th in the league in revenue the year before Katrina. Benson is more than likely, as usual, just trying to rape the state for more money.
 
Long-Spurs-Texan said:
Bottom line, the Saints are finished in New Orleans. Benson will be leaving for San Antonio or LA. Benson will be filing a lawsuit to make it happen, just like Al Davis (a true turd). Look at the storied Baltimore Colts moving to Indy, the St. Louis Cardinals moving to Arizona, and the Cleveland Brown going back to Baltimore. ALL those teams had solid fan bases, as well as a tradition winning. ALL those teams left over $$$. $$$ beats fans every time. Tag (or his Yoda, Pete Rozelle) had a hand in *****ing every one of those cities. Newsflash, there was no devastating Act of God involved. It was over stadiums, & TV (just like NO). I can't see how you can be mad at Benson for taking the deal they offered him in Louisiana. It's like beig mad at a Grizzly Bear for eating someone. Grizzly's eat people, it's what they do. NFL owners care about their bottom line first and foremost, It's what they do.
Benson has had a one on one exclusive interview with one of the local SA channels last week. He stated that he cant say that the Saints wont come back to SA. And his wife doesnt like when the people of Louisiana are rude with them:tv: :tv:
 
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NFL commissioner Paul Tagliabue said during a visit to New Orleans on Wednesday that he expects the Louisiana Superdome to host all of the Saints' regular-season home games next season.

Tagliabue also sought to reassure the community that the NFL is not simply moving the Saints back to New Orleans for a single season as a public relations move meant to portray the league as sympathetic to victims of Hurricane Katrina.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2288751

Hopefully this should silence some people.
 
MorKnolle said:
Another note, even before Katrina, New Orleans was one of, if not the worst, team in NFL in terms of fan support

MorKnolle, I usually respect what you say, but I couldn't disagree more with this statement. I just think that the current conditions will not justify keeping the Saints in place. Having said that, I hope conditions improve (population) over time to allow the Saints to remain in NO.
 
Zephyr said:
MorKnolle, I usually respect what you say, but I couldn't disagree more with this statement. I just think that the current conditions will not justify keeping the Saints in place. Having said that, I hope conditions improve (population) over time to allow the Saints to remain in NO.

I was just restating what I had heard elsewhere that the Saints were ranked like 28th in the NFL in terms of revenues and all that before the hurricane hit and that it previously seemed like one of the teams that was prime for a relocation, and that in the wake of the hurricane it will be even harder to fill the stadium. I'm not saying I think they should move or that the people in Louisiana don't want or even need the team to stay, just pointing out that New Orleans hadn't exactly been the hotbed of NFL support for several years.
 
MorKnolle said:
I was just restating what I had heard elsewhere that the Saints were ranked like 28th in the NFL in terms of revenues and all that before the hurricane hit and that it previously seemed like one of the teams that was prime for a relocation, and that in the wake of the hurricane it will be even harder to fill the stadium. I'm not saying I think they should move or that the people in Louisiana don't want or even need the team to stay, just pointing out that New Orleans hadn't exactly been the hotbed of NFL support for several years.

Some of you really should read the other posts or do some homework first. The Saints ranked 12th in revenue the year before Katrina, and had 37 consecutive sellouts leading up to it. I wouldn't be surprised if every game this year is a sellout as well. Saints fans are extremely loyal and a marquee player like Leinert and new blood with a new coach will rejuvenate the fanbase. The Saints are more of a regional team anyway, selling tickets won't be the problem some of the less informed think. The Saints aren't going anywhere (both in terms of moving and probably in terms of winning too :D
 
donato said:
Some of you really should read the other posts or do some homework first. The Saints ranked 12th in revenue the year before Katrina, and had 37 consecutive sellouts leading up to it. I wouldn't be surprised if every game this year is a sellout as well. Saints fans are extremely loyal and a marquee player like Leinert and new blood with a new coach will rejuvenate the fanbase. The Saints are more of a regional team anyway, selling tickets won't be the problem some of the less informed think. The Saints aren't going anywhere (both in terms of moving and probably in terms of winning too :D

Thank you.

I couldn't have said it any better.
 
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