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Malloy said:
Cap issues (along with me privately being grumpy that these people make so much money) are real issues.

The DD move you suggest would solve some of that $-issue, but the question is whether or not Bush/Morency would be able to pick it up in their "first" year.

If we draft Bush, and it sure does smell like that right now, I'm with you, he'll be fun to watch, we can then both whine about the $-issues in the off-season ;)
Not so much. Move DD. incur an $7-8 millon cap penalty. DD is here for at least one more season, guaranteed.

Also, anyone notice in the article where it said Reggie was "certain" to be better then DD? Anyone else found that strange?
 
Apoch said:
I wanted to quote your whole message, but I didn't want to have that whole thing repeated, so I cut out the middle. Everything you said is true and I agree with your conclusions, however I would add something to it. In several of the years where the carry percentage was more spread out there were many injuries and switches of the starting job.

For example, you said...

Terrell Davis only played 7 games that year. He then broke his kneecap and sat out the rest of the year. This kind of thing happened consistently between '99 and '04. If those injuries hadn't happened I'm sure we would see carry percentages more like those of the Superbowl years.

Excellent point, the 2005 season was reallly the only one that they intended to run a 2 RB system, the other seasons that the carries were pretty well spread out were generally due to injuries.

Apoch said:
Your assessments don't really tell the whole tale. Yes the system keeps going without major talent, but the major talents are what make the system Superbowl worthy. Davis and Portis were the only ones who really made Denver's offense "scary." Once again, the system is productive on its own, but it needs talent to bring the offense to a new, unstoppable level.

Davis is the type of back who will make the system effective. His receiving ability will give the offense options, and his all round good play will keep the full arsenal of runs (which include about 6 total lol) available.

Bush however, has the rare burst and explosion that is comparable to Portis. He can make the offense deadly... especially in multiple WR sets. That gives you a whole new dimension. 3rd and 6 becomes a legitimate running down. Screen plays become "money" plays. The singleback/3 WR set can be a 4 WR shotgun at any moment (or vice versa). Having both will be a great asset as it will take Bush time to learn the whole system. In that time the coaching staff can ease him in, and the Texans can use his strengths to their best ability his rookie year.

Oh, and most Denver fans agree that Clinton Portis came into his own his sophomore year.... more specifically this game:

Portis Runs Wild

Performance for the ages right there...

I agree, Domanick Davis is a solid RB and would be able to produce quite well in the Broncos system (probably get 1200 rushing yards, 400 receiving yards and 8-10 total TDs a year as the main RB), but Bush has that Clinton Portis type of special ability that should add that wow and scary factor to our offense (should be able to put up 1500 rushing yards and 500 receiving yards as our main RB).
 
Apoch said:
Your assessments don't really tell the whole tale. Yes the system keeps going without major talent, but the major talents are what make the system Superbowl worthy. Davis and Portis were the only ones who really made Denver's offense "scary." Once again, the system is productive on its own, but it needs talent to bring the offense to a new, unstoppable level.

Davis is the type of back who will make the system effective. His receiving ability will give the offense options, and his all round good play will keep the full arsenal of runs (which include about 6 total lol) available.

Bush however, has the rare burst and explosion that is comparable to Portis. He can make the offense deadly... especially in multiple WR sets. That gives you a whole new dimension. 3rd and 6 becomes a legitimate running down. Screen plays become "money" plays. The singleback/3 WR set can be a 4 WR shotgun at any moment (or vice versa). Having both will be a great asset as it will take Bush time to learn the whole system. In that time the coaching staff can ease him in, and the Texans can use his strengths to their best ability his rookie year.

Oh, and most Denver fans agree that Clinton Portis came into his own his sophomore year.... more specifically this game:

Portis Runs Wild



Performance for the ages right there...


Nice link Apoch, thanks. Pretty exciting and the only problem with DDavis (besides staying healthy) is that he gets caught from behind too often. He does run strong and is fun to watch, solid......spectacular when he runs over people but that was more so during his rookie season when DD really punished some guys.
 
MorKnolle said:
I agree, Domanick Davis is a solid RB and would be able to produce quite well in the Broncos system (probably get 1200 rushing yards, 400 receiving yards and 8-10 total TDs a year as the main RB), but Bush has that Clinton Portis type of special ability that should add that wow and scary factor to our offense (should be able to put up 1500 rushing yards and 500 receiving yards as our main RB).

Domanick Davis..... 2004
1188 rushing yards(kinda like 1200 rushing yards)
588 recieving yards(kinda like 400 recieving yards)

he scored 8 rushing touchdowns his rookie season & 13 his sophomore season.

& that's with the Houston Texans...... the worse offensive line in the league.

Improve the Offensive Line play, and he'll get you 1500/500......... there's no reason to believe he won't.
 
Bobo said:
A.) The DL failed miserably against the run last year. It also failed to get any kind of consistent pass rush going either. It still needs lots of help. B.) Weaver has a history of being injured and certainly doesn't pressure the QB. He isn't the answer. C.) The Texans were totally unable to even block three pass rushers, let alone four. Fact is, opposing Ds didn't have to blitz to put pressure on Carr. D.) As far as the scouts go, I wouldn't put a lot of trust in them. I am sure the scouts thought Akili Smith and Ryan Leaf were can't miss prospects, as I am sure was the case for Cedrick Benson, Archie Griffin, Lawrence Phillips and Curtis Enis. Fact is, we don't need a RB. We already have a good one. We don't need a QB either -- we've already got a good one. What the Texans do need is a heckuva lot of help on the OL and on defense. Until they get that together, they'd better throw their entire draft at those problem areas. Everytime they draft a guy who will even touch the ball, I will wince and shake my head in total and utter disbelief. It reminds me of a guy who already has a decent weedeater but goes out and buys a better one while his lawnmower sits in the garage, broken and unusable.

Bobo,

You've got to be the most optomistic person that posts on these message boards.

You must be a Steelers fan, or are they too much of a loser for you?

But, I don't blame you. After reading your posts, I've come to the conclusion that you are right, and there is no hope for any ray of sunshine within the Texans organization.

You have convinced me. The Texans have got to be worse next year. We've let all our best players sign with other teams, and have replaced them with manequins. And forget about the draft. We don't draft high enough to get any kind of an impact player. (that is of course, unless we draft Bush) But then he'll just be a bust and never play an effective down in the NFL. Gosh, I'm really disappointed in the whole offseason mess. Maybe we could draft Vince Young, but then, alas, he would turn out to be just another pretty face with no talent. I'm getting depressed.

In fact, I'm giving up football. It's no use, because there is just no way to improve. I agree that Capers was the greatest, and if he stayed around and had won only one game next year, it would have been an improvement, and if he won no games the next year then we could all celebrate and become Oiler fans. There's no way for them to disappoint us.

Fairwell Texans fans... go ahead, get your hearts broken... but you've all been warned. Right, Bobo?
 
thunderkyss said:
Domanick Davis..... 2004
1188 rushing yards(kinda like 1200 rushing yards)
588 recieving yards(kinda like 400 recieving yards)

he scored 8 rushing touchdowns his rookie season & 13 his sophomore season.

& that's with the Houston Texans...... the worse offensive line in the league.

Improve the Offensive Line play, and he'll get you 1500/500......... there's no reason to believe he won't.

The Broncos system is different from the system we were running before. The Broncos system doesn't overly utilize throwing to the RB, the most receiving yards by any RB in a single season under Shanahan/Kubiak was 369 (Aaron Craver in 1995), and they only had a 300 yard receiver among their RBs 5 times in 11 years (Clinton Portis in 2002 and 2003, Terrell Davis in 1995 and 1996, and Aaron Craver in 1995), so I don't expect Domanick to get 500 receiving yards in their system, nor do I expect him to remain healthy enough to rack up 1500 rushing yards in a season.
 
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