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new 7 round texan mock

YoungTexanFan said:
because he wont be an actual RB in the NFL. He will not preform anywhere close to what he did in college, not saying he wont succede, but not to that extent.

He will also be out of the league a less than 7 years i believe.
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first... i dont know why everyone is saying he wont play running back, and how do you know how he will perform...and one thing i can tell you is that the transition for a running back is easier than that of an O-line. Not only that there arent many ELITE O-line in the leauge compared to other positions...Which means drafting one in the first five picks would be an extreme reach and has more of a chance of coming back and biting this franchise where the sun dont shine.........
 
Hey YTF I hope you are not saying that Bush is not going to be out of the league in 7 years. I think Bush will be a playmaker in this league depending on how he is used. Say we pick him and put him as a receiver. well he will likely have a career like Steve Smith his talents are comparable. I like your Draft strategy though. I think you take the best at what you need. You do have to agree though that we need OL and Playmakers. So we really could not go wrong with Bush, Winston, or D'Brick.
 
yeah you're right and i dont know how long he'd be in the leauge, but yeah...i wouldn't be terribly mad if they picked D'Brick, but i'd rather have bush...and thats the thing D'Brick is getting comp from winston...Bush has comp from no one..
 
xtruroyaltyx said:
yeah you're right and i dont know how long he'd be in the leauge, but yeah...i wouldn't be terribly mad if they picked D'Brick, but i'd rather have bush...and thats the thing D'Brick is getting comp from winston...Bush has comp from no one..
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bush gets no comp because no one is able to stop USC, you can stop bush...look at his last few games...but you have to worry about lienert and everyone else. No other team has that kind of talent to pick who scores with.
 
Bush has comp from every other top running back. Deangelo Williams and Laurence Maroney come to mind. That is not the point Bush will be a player in this league and he can have a very good career. D'brick is nice and Winston is nice. Every player has comp that is why they have scouts.
 
Coach C. said:
Bush has comp from every other top running back. Deangelo Williams and Laurence Maroney come to mind. That is not the point Bush will be a player in this league and he can have a very good career. D'brick is nice and Winston is nice. Every player has comp that is why they have scouts.
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Fair enough...
 
YoungTexanFan said:
1. D’Brick- LT Virginia
2. Elvis Dumervile-DE Louisville
3. Orin Harris-DT The U
3. Dwayne Slay-FS Texas Tech
4. Justin London-ILB/UCLA
5. Taitusi Lutui-OG USC
6. Skyler Green-WR LSU
7. Kwakou Robinson DT Virginia
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needed a refresher :)

Texans don't trade down (which I hope they will do) they take D'Brick, unless Bush is available. I'm hoping for a slot around #7 in exchange for that teams #1 pick in 07.

rd. 1- Eric Winston LT (RT for Texans leave Pitts at LT, for now)

rd. 2- Davin Joseph G (Pitts-LG Joseph-LG- Hodgdon-C Wade-RG Winston-RT

rd. 3a- Orin Harris DT (solid rotation even with injury history of Texans d-line)

rd. 3b- Leon Williams ILB (both 3rd rd. picks off the Miami Hurricane Defense)

rd. 4- Drew Olson QB (trade Ragone for a 3rd rd. pick in 07)

rd. 5- Jeff King TE excellent blocking TE that can catch the ball

rd. 6- BPA

rd. 7- BPA
 
beerlover said:
needed a refresher :)

Texans don't trade down (which I hope they will do) they take D'Brick, unless Bush is available. I'm hoping for a slot around #7 in exchange for that teams #1 pick in 07.

rd. 1- Eric Winston LT (RT for Texans leave Pitts at LT, for now)

rd. 2- Davin Joseph G (Pitts-LG Joseph-LG- Hodgdon-C Wade-RG Winston-RT

rd. 3a- Orin Harris DT (solid rotation even with injury history of Texans d-line)

rd. 3b- Leon Williams ILB (both 3rd rd. picks off the Miami Hurricane Defense)

rd. 4- Drew Olson QB (trade Ragone for a 3rd rd. pick in 07)

rd. 5- Jeff King TE excellent blocking TE that can catch the ball

rd. 6- BPA

rd. 7- BPA
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I love the U, and their D has been great this year, but if we are going LB...what bout McIntosh (sp)? I havent seen him projected higher but he seems better from what i have watched.

I like everything up till there, i dont think we should trade a qb for another qb basicly. ragone was a 3rd when we drafted him, we should be able to get more for him before we pull the trigger.

As of this version of your mock, we havent covered DE/Pass rusher or S to replace colemen.

Would also like to see players names instead of BPA, maybe one of us can find a gem down that late.
Nice work though and it is appreciated.
 
In round Three it would be nice to see Threat, Slay, maybe even Laron Landry in the second and get a OG, OC in the third. Rocky McIntosh is the better linebacker and would come in and likely take Greenwood's job pretty quickly. He is faster, stronger, and more of a playmaker than greenwood already. Plus he is a linebacker from the U they get the job done.
 
beerlover said:
needed a refresher :)

Texans don't trade down (which I hope they will do) they take D'Brick, unless Bush is available. I'm hoping for a slot around #7 in exchange for that teams #1 pick in 07.

rd. 1- Eric Winston LT (RT for Texans leave Pitts at LT, for now)

rd. 2- Davin Joseph G (Pitts-LG Joseph-LG- Hodgdon-C Wade-RG Winston-RT

rd. 3a- Orin Harris DT (solid rotation even with injury history of Texans d-line)

rd. 3b- Leon Williams ILB (both 3rd rd. picks off the Miami Hurricane Defense)

rd. 4- Drew Olson QB (trade Ragone for a 3rd rd. pick in 07)

rd. 5- Jeff King TE excellent blocking TE that can catch the ball

rd. 6- BPA

rd. 7- BPA
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Not bad, although I doubt anyone would give us a third round pick for Dave Ragone, and I'm not sure Olson would fall to the 4th but he might. I still don't know why everyone wants to pick Orin Harris. He is a very good DT but that is near the bottom of the list of our current needs. I'd like to see us get a pass-rusher and a good CB somewhere in there.
 
I think people are assuming that Walker, Ioane, or Deloach could very well be gone next year which could make it more of a priority. I feel that CB is a huge need for us as well as a pass-rusher or situational pass rusher whichever. Those are two things plus offensive playmakers that we need alot.
 
YoungTexanFan said:
There are not many TE's that are good enough quality to draft after the top two. You will end up w/a rivers kind of guy.
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i dont know about that. what about david thomas-UT, or Mercedes Lewis-UCLA, or Garrett Mills-Tulsa. There is alot of depth at TE in this years draft
 
MorKnolle said:
Not bad, although I doubt anyone would give us a third round pick for Dave Ragone, and I'm not sure Olson would fall to the 4th but he might. I still don't know why everyone wants to pick Orin Harris. He is a very good DT but that is near the bottom of the list of our current needs. I'd like to see us get a pass-rusher and a good CB somewhere in there.
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I like Ragone, but if the Texans are not going to play him or integrate him into practice then they should trade him. He developed nicely last season in NFL Europe, is accurate, has a strong arm, has NFL size and showed he can make good decisons directing a offense to a championship game. At the very least the Texans could net the 3rd rounder they used in 2003 when they drafted Ragone.

Some of you guys were not around last year on this board but if you remember Orin Harris was in the conversation as one of the top DT's if he would come out early, then the Texans select Travis Johnson. I've been watching him this year and he is always around the ball and would be excellent in both run defense and as a pass rusher (reminds me of Tommy Harris). I'm so sick & tired of this 3-4 mentality predicating OLB has to be the driving force to pass rushing. hello its not working:ok: we need physical players that can breakdown these pockets of protection from the inside as well. if Orin slips to the top of the 3rd rd. then he has fallen under the radar and represents excellent value. Bookends Travis Johnson & Orin Harris with Robaire Smith anchoring the middle. The Texans cannot continue to expect Gary Walker & Seth Payne to remain healthy, the depth at this position continues to be a major area of need.

Who knows what the Texans off season brings? could be an entirely new coaching staff, could be a switch to the 4-3 defense, could be alot of things. But two things are clear the Texans run & pass defense needs to improve & these two players from the U would add alot of speed/youth. And Two, the offensive line nees a pair of premium lineman to show the improvement needed and re-tool for the future. then we can better judge Carr, our RB's & WR's for the 07 draft and beyond with a young capable QB waiting in the wings as the OL solidifies into a area of strength. :cool:
 
College Texan said:
I might change Skylar Geen for a better person but I think my Mock is reasonable


7 Round

1) 1st overall and seventh traded to Jets for both of their first and fourth next year

1A) B'Brick
1B) AJ Hawk
2) Micheal Huff
3) Leonard Pope
3) Bobby Carpenter
4) Skylar Green
5) Selvin Young
6) Traded w/next years sixth and seventh for early fifth/ 5)Taitusi Luitusi
7) traded
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Without a doubt my favorite so far. If I did change anything I think I would change round four and five to guard and center. If Bobby Carpenter is gone in round three then their is still Spencer Havner.

I still think we shoud switch to a 4-3. But it would be impossible to make that many changes in one year so I say keep the 3-4 for one more year but start getting players for a 4-3. This year fix the oline and get the 4-3 linebackers you want threw the draft and free agency. Next change the Dline.
 
Do the Jets even have 2 first round picks to trade for???

And I dont really like the Young Pick. I think a sleeper like Dwayne Wright would be great if he comes out. He was a great RB last year for the Fresno St dogs, before he injured his knee.
 
Coach C. said:
Bush has comp from every other top running back. Deangelo Williams and Laurence Maroney come to mind. That is not the point Bush will be a player in this league and he can have a very good career. D'brick is nice and Winston is nice. Every player has comp that is why they have scouts.
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When I say No comp...I mean as of right now there is no doubt who the best playmaker coming out is going to be...Ferguson and Winston and a few others are almost neck and neck...I'm just saying i'd rather have an elite guy with no one else in his class rather than a guy who might might turn out to be better than a second rounder... The thing is I think that we can get good lineman in the second and third. If we get one in the first and he turns out to be a bust then that will be harder to swallow than getting a guy like bush who does't turn out to be L.T or Barry Sanders....Just a guy who can bust open a game on special teams, in the slot, or out of the backfield...What i'm trying to say is I think reggied bush would be the smarter and safer pick
 
xtruroyaltyx said:
When I say No comp...I mean as of right now there is no doubt who the best playmaker coming out is going to be...Ferguson and Winston and a few others are almost neck and neck...I'm just saying i'd rather have an elite guy with no one else in his class rather than a guy who might might turn out to be better than a second rounder... The thing is I think that we can get good lineman in the second and third. If we get one in the first and he turns out to be a bust then that will be harder to swallow than getting a guy like bush who does't turn out to be L.T or Barry Sanders....Just a guy who can bust open a game on special teams, in the slot, or out of the backfield...What i'm trying to say is I think reggied bush would be the smarter and safer pick
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i feel he will be the safer pick for a year or so, but will be passed up in production by other RB's and the O-linemen. I am not questioninghis playmaking ability, but i dont feel like he would be the smarter pick for us.
 
College Texan said:
I might change Skylar Geen for a better person but I think my Mock is reasonable


1) 1st overall and seventh traded to Jets for both of their first and fourth next year

1A) B'Brick
1B) AJ Hawk
2) Micheal Huff
3) Leonard Pope
3) Bobby Carpenter
4) Skylar Green
5) Selvin Young
6) Traded w/next years sixth and seventh for early fifth/ 5)Taitusi Luitusi
7) traded
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Do the jets have two first? i dont remember reading or hearing that they did, but i would be very interested in that if they did.

If this draft were to happen, i would piss my pants and then buy the first round.

If they do...(dont think they do) have two first round picks, what spots are they at?
 
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