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National Championship Game Thread- Texas vs. Bama

I guess the Colts aren't that great of a team, then.


Look, Alabama won fair and square, and they are deserving of the national championship. But anyone pretending that losing McCoy wasn't a HUGE blow to Texas is completely ****ing crazy.

If the Texans had made it to a wildcard game and then we lost Matt Schaub in the first quarter and went on to lose, this place would be like a kicked ant pile. Not a single person here would be saying stuff like the Texas haters are saying in this thread.

It's not that Texas proved they are a better team cause they almost won without McCoy. No, that wouldn't be fair. But the fact is we really don't know who the better team is, because Texas lost their chance at showing it when McCoy went down and we had to bring in a freshman with 30 snaps in college, and anyone saying it's obviously Bama just because they won is full of ****.

As for your Matt Schaub analogy, if the Texans lost Matt Schaub in a Wildcard game on a designed QB run play I would have been pissed at the coaches for making such a call. If he was hurt on a broken pass play then I would be pissed at the Offensive Line and Backfield for not protecting him. If he was hurt because he held onto the ball too long then I'd be pissed at Matt.

Finally to answer your first question, no the Colts aren't that good of a team if the loss of any one person would cause them to fall apart. I counter your question with this question: Has Peyton Manning ever missed playing time in the NFL?
 
I feel badly as a UT fan that Colt didn't get to play the most important game of his college career..

I think he would have been the difference for them but that's life and Bama is a deserving champion.
 
Gilbert is the #2 QB at Texas and has been ever since the spring. John Chiles never had a chance but Mack promised him he could at least compete at QB. He was never gonna play and finally saw the writing on the wall and moved over to WR.

The only other choice was Sherrod Harris. Gilbert beat him out head to head for the #2 job in the spring.

I had every confidence in Gilbert. He was the #1 QB in high school last year and he was by far the best QB on our roster when Colt got hurt.

I know he is only a freshman but it is the coaching staff's fault that he wasn't completely prepared. The only position on the entire team where we didn't have extensive experience among our backups was at QB. Although Shipley is our best player on offense, the one guy we could not afford to lose was Colt because we had nobody with experience behind him.

Gilbert has a NFL arm already. He has a bright future ahead of him.

I see him all the time on 6th st. trying to get people to buy him drinks
 
I would counter that anyone who believes Gilbert should have only had 30 snaps, in a season in which Texas had huge leads in many games by the 3rd quarter, is equally full of feces.

That is my biggest problem with Mack. He doesnt trot the backups on the field that often and when Gilbert did get to see action he was handing off to rb's.
 
I would counter that anyone who believes Gilbert should have only had 30 snaps, in a season in which Texas had huge leads in many games by the 3rd quarter, is equally full of feces.

You are 100% correct. This was a massive failure on Brown and Davis' parts. Not just during the season, but even within the game itself. I am really starting to question Mack on his deference to Davis. I am really starting to itch for the Muschamp era to start. I suspect that his gambling and aggressive instincts would not allow for some of Davis' more turtle like antics. Mack's staff needs to be capable of maximizing their players' potential. I also hope he has learned how important it is to have a team where any player is capable of stepping in when necessary rather than pimping a guy's stats for the Heisman. If Brown screws up Gilbert the way he screwed up Simms ima be pissed. I'm not making a direct comparison here, which would have meant that Brown pulled a senior McCoy and made Gilbert a first year starter (Craig James musta been taking notes). I'm saying by thrusting a freshman into a hostile environment rather than gradually allowing them to get a feel for the game and their teammates you are basically hindering their future chances. Sort of nurturing a Brad Lidge syndrome, with the added plus that you are messing with 19 year old kids' heads.

It's not going to get any easier in 2010. I know that to SEC fans the Big 12 is just another minor nothing conference, but there are going to be a ton of dangerous teams fighting it out next year. Apart from OU Texas also gets the pleasure of going into Lincoln and Lubbock, but at least gets OSU and A&M at home (as well as their lone legit non conference game in UCLA). None of these are gimmie games for a first year QB, and right now I don't see how they can go undefeated again. Granted they have yet another elite class coming in, but losing Thomas, Kindle, and Houston hurts immensely -- as much as losing McCoy and Shipley IMO. UT will still have an incredibly impressive secondary and I think they will be a defensive team next year. I just think one or two games will do them in. I'm leaning towards either Nebraska or OU in consecutive games at the onset of their Big 12 season.

Texas had a phenomenal year and I was very proud of their performance Thursday. This was a special season for Longhorn fans. Though no one will truly know what might have happened, we know what actually did happen. Alabama ran it down UT's throat. The team that made fewer mistakes and had fewer turnovers won. Texas couldn't stop 'Bama's bread and butter. I suspect that this would have killed them eventually whether Colt played or not. Regardless I thought the Longhorn players did exceptionally well given the circumstances. Even Gilbert seemed to be literally growing by the play. I really wish that he had had a chance to get those inevitable first plays out of his system before that game. That sack and fumble to kill UT was the first sack he has taken as a collegiate athlete. I would have much rather he taken it against OSU, Mizzou, or Kansas. I can honestly say that I have never been more impressed with a QB's performance that featured 4 interceptions as well as a fumble and two turnovers in the last 6 minutes inside his own 10 yard line with his team down by 3 at first. He needed to learn to take a hit. His WR's needed to learn how he threw. He also needs to get a little more height on his passes. Way too many tipped balls. These problems are fixed through repitition and playing together in practice and game day situations.

Sorry to all for the long and rambling post. I've been thinking and talking about the game a lot the last few days and just kind of felt like writing about it. The list of times I've experienced this feeling is just so short. I obviously have the '06 Rose Bowl. I've also had the Rockets in the '90's and the 'Stros World Series. Making the Final Four was nice, but not the same thing. I've never been nuts about Texas baseball. I've been to games and I root for them but I really enjoyed Rice winning in 2003 more than any UT CWS. I can also honestly say I'd really enjoy it if Rice somehow beat UT next year in their first football game -- admittedly in part because it won't happen. I certainly wouldn't bask in it, but it's really neat to see a University that does things the right way and that is smaller than my high school win (especially a NC). Reckling is a great cheap way to blow off an afternoon.

I read the last few pages of this thread after posting and I'm repeating a lot of points already made -- there are a lot of smart people on this here MB :bravo:.
 
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im disappointed how the game turned out. guess we'll never know what would happen if mccoy was in for the whole game. but anyways, congrats to bama. they deserved it.
 
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