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My Thoughts on Today's Game vs. Arizona

SESupergenius said:
This is laughable, Carr leads this team to a team record of most points in a half and gets absolutely no credit. Yet if Carr doesn't lead the team then he gets ALL the blame. You can't have it both ways. The fact is Carr was given complete control of this offense and he led score many points and a victory. All along the people with an open mind have been saying that Carr needs to be handed the reigns on this team and look what he does. These are just facts folks, Carr led this team to a victory, there is no denying it. The play from the 1st half to the 2nd was like night and day. Say goodbye to Pendry.
Some people just can't admit they are wrong and look foolish being so stubborn. Just like when the pundits said that Carr can't find his secondary targets, then boom he drops a sweet long pass to Bradford right in his hands, but of course Carr didn't catch it for him and the Carr haters crucified him for Bradford not making the catch. It's getting rediculous around here.

I think it is quite clear in the posts that DC the playcaller is pretty smart. DC the QB is average.
 
Kaiser Toro said:
I think it is quite clear in the posts that DC the playcaller is pretty smart. DC the QB is average.

Average is better than most QB's would be behind this O line...
 
Kaiser Toro said:
I think it is quite clear in the posts that DC the playcaller is pretty smart. DC the QB is average.
And how many times have we seen on this board where some of the members constantly badger Carr for his lack of game smarts? Doh! That game should pretty much shut them up because it was well documented that he led this team to many points after being given complete control of the offense. Case closed.
 
SESupergenius said:
And how many times have we seen on this board where some of the members constantly badger Carr for his lack of game smarts? Doh! That game should pretty much shut them up because it was well documented that he led this team to many points after being given complete control of the offense. Case closed.

DC the playcaller is smart enough to know not to put DC the QB in a position to fail, hence hand offs and hitches.
 
Kaiser Toro said:
DC the playcaller is smart enough to know not to put DC the QB in a position to fail, hence hand offs and hitches.

What is more important? Winning? Or what you do to win? Carr got the job done.
 
texan279 said:
What is more important? Winning? Or what you do to win? Carr got the job done.

Winning and that should be apparent in my posts. But as most are afraid that somehow Capers and Cass will be back or we lose the #1 sweepstakes if we continue to win I am afraid that we resign DC at the 2 or 3 year option.
 
Let's see, 1st half Carr calls the game that he sees will work (within the framework he is given and only that which they have practiced and using plays that work with the O-line provided ie.short tosses) and we put up a good amount of points. In the second half controll reverts back to the coaches and we don't do squat. I wonder where the issue lays. Just can't seem to see it. Anyone able to help me out to see it?
 
Vinny said:
On the David Carr show this morning he said that Pendry sent him "suggestions or formations" every few plays but Carr had an open canvas of the plays they practiced all week. He had like 5 pass options, 5 run options and so forth per package/formation.

Open canvas? :rolleyes:
Do we even know what plays they practiced all week? I don't. :confused:
My guess would be all dink and dunk. Carr can only call what they practice. The only deep threat we did have is now a bigger waste of money than Carr. No, I am not talking about Bradford, he never has been a threat. If we want to talk about busts, where is Andre? Andre is no help to Carr. He cannot beat double teams, then drops TD passes right in his gut. I wouldn't throw the ball to him anymore either. Don't even think about complaining that we don't throw deep to Andre. Watch other receivers run deep and fight for and come down wih the ball. Johnson does not do this. Now there is a good opportunity to discuss/argue about a player. Where is all the outcry about Andre ? Is he overrated? Has our staff completeley ruined him too? (that would be my guess). We have other receivers on this team, lets replace Bradford and Andre. Do you realize why the second teamers come in and look better than the regular players, (clue) they haven't been receiving intensive, but inferior, coaching all year long from this bunch.

All the blame for our poor offense is placed on Carr and the O line. If I was Carr all my passes would go to DD too, at least he will catch it. This regime has destroyed any talent these players had when they showed up to play for the Texan team. Blame individual players all you want, they have not been recieving very good coaching. Pendry as OC ??? What a joke!

And our defensive coaches? Has anyone noticed the difference in Dunta since he got here? He recieved better coaching in college. Another year here and he will become mediocre.

Carr not a good QB? This is becoming a self perpetuating myth.

Thank you Mr McNair for realizing this and bringing in help.

Diversity abounds on this board. That's a good thing.


That's my opinion.
Carr haters have their opinion.


:coffee:
 
AJ was in the Pro Bowl last year and we are ready to throw him to the wolves? The fact that he was injured this year has no bearing nor that he cannot throw it to himself, correct? Yeah I am still po'd that he dropped that one pass.

Drob had a good year last year as he was second fiddle to Glenn and now that he is the man and not had as a good of a year (not sure how we are measuring) we need to give up on him?

I am all for new coaches, but to give up on these guys I cannot endorse.
 
Kaiser Toro said:
AJ was in the Pro Bowl last year and we are ready to throw him to the wolves? The fact that he was injured this year has no bearing nor that he cannot throw it to himself, correct? Yeah I am still po'd that he dropped that one pass.

Drob had a good year last year as he was second fiddle to Glenn and now that he is the man and not had as a good of a year (not sure how we are measuring) we need to give up on him?

I am all for new coaches, but to give up on these guys I cannot endorse.

So you are ready to throw Carr under the bus for leading the offense to a franchise record 24 points in the 2nd quarter, but after all of the passes AJ has dropped this season you cannot give up on him because he was in the Pro Bowl last season? :confused:
 
texan279 said:
So you are ready to throw Carr under the bus for leading the offense to a franchise record 24 points in the 2nd quarter, but after all of the passes AJ has dropped this season you cannot give up on him because he was in the Pro Bowl last season? :confused:

How many years has AJ been in the league? How many games did AJ miss this year? How many drops does he have? You will get my answer and help your confusion once you provide those answers. Otherwise I will keep my word, to a respected poster, regarding my comments on DC.
 
Kaiser Toro said:
How many years has AJ been in the league? How many games did AJ miss this year? How many drops does he have? You will get my answer and help your confusion once you provide those answers. Otherwise I will keep my word, to a respected poster, regarding my comments on DC.

AJ has been in the league one year less than Carr. How about this...Wide receivers are ranked according to DPAR, or Defense-adjusted Points Above Replacement. This number represents the total number of points scored due to plays where this WR caught the ball, compared to a replacement-level WR in the same game situations. That last number is catch percentage...So basically, on average, every tim AJ catches a pass we score -1.3 points compared to a replacent WR in the same game situation. And Johnson's catch percentage is 55%, not the greatest considering the elite WR's in the NFL have 60% plus catch percentage on average, with most of them in the 65-75% range...

86-J.Gaffney HOU 3.0 58 2.6 59 -9.3% 64 -10.0% 80 445 2 61%
85-C.Bradford HOU 2.6 62 3.2 57 -6.7% 55 -4.5% 47 268 3 53%
80-A.Johnson HOU -1.3 76 1.5 70 -18.1% 77 -12.4% 88 515 1 55%
 
Kaiser Toro said:
How many years has AJ been in the league? How many games did AJ miss this year? How many drops does he have? You will get my answer and help your confusion once you provide those answers. Otherwise I will keep my word, to a respected poster, regarding my comments on DC.

I'll provide the answers. This is Andre's third year. He missed three games and all except one play of the Tennessee game on 10/9. He has 4 dropped passes this year. I for one have not said anything negative about Johnson. Our offensive line is to blame for his drop off as well. If Carr can't get the ball to Johnson, obviously his stats are going to suffer.
 
Zephyr said:
Catch percentage is NOT indicative of drops.

I understand that, but for one, I have no idea where to find dropped passes kept as a stat, and for 2 it shows insight into playmaking ability.
 
Kaiser Toro said:
AJ was in the Pro Bowl last year and we are ready to throw him to the wolves? The fact that he was injured this year has no bearing nor that he cannot throw it to himself, correct? Yeah I am still po'd that he dropped that one pass.

Drob had a good year last year as he was second fiddle to Glenn and now that he is the man and not had as a good of a year (not sure how we are measuring) we need to give up on him?

I am all for new coaches, but to give up on these guys I cannot endorse.

Kaiser
Guess I was a little off target there. I was trying to make a point that several of our players have suffered at the hands of this staff. It was not my intention to downgrade AJ or DRob. They both were outstanding players when they got here. They, like the rest of the team, are suffering from neglect. The way our oline has been shuffled from position to position borders on criminal neglect. If your RT is underperforming during the season, (clue to Pendry) sub him with the back up RT, don't reshuffle the entire line. :penalty:
Same thing for any position on the team for that matter. Positions and subs should be determined during preseason, not the regular season. Pendry is worthless, clueless, and many other adjectives I cannot recall at the moment. Pendry has taken a player that had shown promise his first year (Wand) and ruined him. Hopefully a real oline coach can come in and revise Wands career before it is too late. Our players are NFL quality players. NFL quality, not necessarily pro-bowl calibre.
I've stated before that our coaches are not NFL quality and I stand by that.
Capers membership in the good ol boy network will cost him his job, deservedly so, he should have put the success of the team first. :twocents:

:coffee:
 
cuppacoffee said:
No, I am not talking about Bradford, he never has been a threat.

You are mistaken. In 2002 and 2003 to a lesser extent Corey Bradford was a very real threat. Even in 2004 he wasn't a liability like he has been this year. This year it's like he's trying to make me die on the inside. It's like it's intentional or something. We all knew he was going to drop some balls but this year has been just silly-crazy-stupid.

He was a threat though the first couple of years. He could catch (usually) and he was fast. He caught 6 touchdown passes in 2002 and in his three years in the NFL AJ, with his Pro Bowl credentials has only matched it, not beaten it.
 
bpergrem3 said:
This win means nothing. A crappy team beat another team.
If it means anything, it's that if we beat SF in two weeks we will drop to the 4th or 5th pick of the draft.

And that is just soooooooooo freaking great. I can't freaking wait.:redtowel: :redtowel: :redtowel:

My thought s too, we played a team much worse than we are. Look what happened to us when we play a top calibre team such as Indy.

Bobby 119C:brickwall
 
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